@@TheIoniqGuy For many of us, miles are fine, but converting to fahrenheit is quite challenging without an app/tool. So I'm also grateful for your efforts.
I've been pleasantly surprised so far with my efficiency. I have a '22 SEL AWD and recently took a road trip in 40-50F degree weather. 196 miles, 3.7 mi/kWh in 3 hours and 37 minutes. I used ECO mode and Winter mode. Started at 100% and arrived with 28%. During the summer, I did the same trip and arrived at around 35%.
Interesting discussion. I just did a trip last night from Far Rockaway New York, to Maryland. Total of 212 mi. I started at 56% SOC, but using ABRP, I saw that if I charge to 80% at the East Brunswick, NJ Electrify America, that I should be able to make it home with 15% battery. Average temperature was in the upper 20s to low 30s, and the trip was done between 10:00 p.m. and 2:00 a.m., so no traffic. Cruise control set to 74 MPH. I don't know if it's because of the speed, the cold, or a combination, but the window of charge in the geuss-o-meter narrowed significantly. When I left the EA station in NJ, it said that I had 182 miles of range, with 160 miles to travel. By the time I got to Maryland, I still had 60 miles to go, but only 50 miles of charge left, forcing me to take an extra stop to charge for a few minutes to make sure I could get home safely.
Also, I left it parked at JFK for over a week with 80% battery, and had zero issues starting it up when I got back. This was my 2023 gravity Gold RWD SEL
Spot on with my I5 Limited AWD on the Maine highway a few weeks back. 2.8-2.7*75=203-210 miles. Mach E ER with bigger battery would have been under 200. Ioniq is a great EV. 17% loss on a highway run is awesome.
Thats about what we are getting over here in RI/MA also. Wife drives a little over 100 miles a day, and uses 45-55% of the battery depending on temps. I expect range to drop to about 200 when we get those January arctic blasts. Brilliant car overall.
Thanks for good work and videos. Have my 2022 SE AWD since April and getting similar mileage. Range down about 25-30% when it's in 30"s temperature range. Also had a couple of charges go much slower in the cold weather. For example at the EA 150 kW station I see a max speed of 107 compared to the 140 which I usually got in the summer. Here is a summary of what I plan on currently in Seattle where temps pretty mild Summer time in town trying hard to "hyper mile drive"- range 340 m. rate 5 m/kwh Summer time in town driving regular range 280 4.4 m/kwh Summer road trip at 65-70 mph 240 3.2 Winter (mid 30'S) in town range 220 3. m/kwh Winter mid 30's road trip (haven't tried yet but expect 210 2.7 m/kwh
Perfect timing, as the winter rolls in I'm curious what other Ioniq 5 owners are getting in efficiency & your numbers exactly match mine...although it's still in the 5-10C range here so I'm guessing I'll lose some efficiency when it gets down to around 0C.
When will battery range go up . I have a 2023 ionic awd range says 299 miles but after some cold weather it's dropped to 220. At what temp will it go back up again?
A question for you. Two days ago the side view mirrors would not open. Now they remain unresponsive. Any insight would be appreciated. I can manually move them .
That's not cold 😉 At -25C (-13F), I'm only showing 300km at 100% charge. It was showing 490 in warm temperatures last week with summer tires. Winters on now, too. 2021 Kona EV
I have a smaller battery (58kWh) Ioniq 5 ordered awaiting delivery. This type of test helps me with the range question but coming from a classic 28kwh Ioniq that is as or more efficient than a Model 3 the miles per kWh makes me nervous 😂. Just too used to the ultra efficiency of the classic Ioniq.
Not to worry friend, I own a 58kWh model too (it has a heatpump though) and had it in January 2022... The day of the delivery was a pretty cold --17°F... Went down to -27°. Made a 235mi trip that day. Charged only once on a 50kW charger for 30 minutes. Since then, 30,000mi on the clock and consumption is 3.9mi/kWh. I drive 150mi per day to get to work and I've never had to charge to get back home. If it's cold, time your charging to stop at the time of departure. This way, your battery will be warmer and you'll save precious juice (as much as 8-10kW to warm the batteries). If you nerf the throttle, you can manage around 3.3 driving around 60 at 25°F. At the moment, temperature is below 32°F and I can drive more than 200 miles.
What elevation change did you experience? I am getting a 2023 ionic limited and we live in Colorado. We wanted a vehicle that would go without charge from Boulder to Avon in the winter which is 120 miles from 5300ft up to 11500ft then down to 9000 ft then up to 10500 ft then down to 7500. Also does eco mode send any power to the front wheels at all or is it purely rear wheel. Also I ordered 18 inch rims and snow tires so that should give me about 10-15% more range just from the smaller tires.
Climbing the Coquihalla in BC (which is very steep), I used 3x as much energy as on the flat and got about 1/2 back on the downhill. 2021 Kona EV. That was at 100 kmh (60 mph) in a 110 zone. And with temperatures well below freezing and with winter tires, I lost another 1/3 in range. So winter mountain driving requires extra attention.
Really wish this vehicle in AWD form had the range of the Tesla Long Range AWD models. Considering the overall size, which is smaller than the model Y, one might assume this ride could come closer to matching them, but there's no room for a larger battery.
Unlike lucky Kevin J, below, I'm in really cold weather, where we were in the 11-15 for about two weeks. No way the car was getting 200 miles, and the DC charging rate was also very slow. Moving to charging overnight at home only during these cold winter months.
ICE cars suffer significant range loss as well. Problem with Hyundai and KiIA evs is the lack of system integration as opposed to Tesla This means it will be very difficult to update or add features like battery conditioning, charging etc. They expect new cars in late 2025 or 2026 may have this ability but will not be backwards compatible
Thanks! I did not. I always forget that feature exists. I’m actually wearing a pair of socks with the Norwegian flag on them as we speak. My girlfriend traveled to Trondheim this past march and brought them back as a gift.
@@TheIoniqGuy thats where im from! 😃We have a cabin in Røros which gets minus 30 celcius frequently. Im guessing driver only may be a bit more efficient considering its trying to warm the whole car up. Maybe a video idea for you?
I'm not doing critical math,, but I find I'm losing 25-30% on my highway long days at apx 70mph.. I HAVE indeed gone a few miles past 0 miles left.. IS THERE A RISK WITH THE WARRANTY BY FILLING TO 100% ? AND GOING TO EMPTY? I only do it occasionally as I drive all over NJ. BTW,, I'm finding many 'broken' electrify america chargers..
No, they actually recommend to charge the battery to 100% a couple times per month. Broken chargers are quite common and just part of the experience at this point
@@TheIoniqGuy How many miles do you have on your car? I have a AWD limited. I measured the tire tread depth of all tires(4200 mile), and three of the four tires met the spec for a new tire as listed by Michelin. I have no garage so I must leave my car outside all the time. Like you, I saw a range of about 300 miles as long the temperature never dropped below 50 degrees. With the colder temps, my worst has been 250 miles. Unlike you, I never drive more than 60mph.
I have winter tires, I'm getting 25 kwh/100km (2.5 mi/kwh) around freezing temperatures, but I drive 60 mph max. What do you guys propose for tire pressure? Cold, around 37 psi, and then they warm up to 40 psi on the road and only at that point I start getting better mileage. I' m concerned about the tire pressure being too high, yet, with the weight of the car it might be needed to keep the tire working properly.
I suspect you would have done better with winter mode on. When I let the Model Y that I’m currently renting do preconditioning, the range jumps up, because a warmer battery provides more range.
@@TheIoniqGuy I still prefer the Ioniq 5 in particular because high speed driving is not so important for me and this is where Tesla is clearly better. I will write up a more detailed comparison later :)
I’ve been driving a Model Y at very similar conditions recently, highway at 120km/h in temperatures just above 0 Celsius. A bit more hilly than your area. I was surprised how efficient the car is, coming in well below 20kWh/100km. This shows how less aerodynamic the Ioniq 5 sadly is. And perhaps the Model Y is also better at dealing with cold conditions. I heated the car quite well. Will see how my Ioniq 5 does in cold conditions soon.
It’s not for extending range, it’s for warming the battery just enough that power delivery to the electric motors doesn’t have to be throttled due to a cold pack. I need to do some further tests to find out just how much it uses and if that takes a big hit to range or not. Because they say it may lower range, I wanted it off to get as much as possible
@@TheIoniqGuy Alright makes sense. I didn't know they say it lowers the range. Depending on the battery chemistry, heating up the battery to 15° can increase your winter range anywhere between 10% and 100%. But it all depends on the battery chemistry and how well the battery pack is insulated to stay warm. I believe lithium iron phosphate cells hate low temperatures the most
So if the 2022 has 256 of range and you only got roughly 185. That's a pretty large hit to the range. I just ordered a 2023 Limited AWD trim so this makes me nervous.
Plus the 14 miles remaining was close to 200. You have to remember that the EPA number is best case in ideal temperatures. In the 80s I get around 280 miles at an average speed of around 55mph. Do you live in a cold climate?
I drive a lot to Eastern Washington (WA State)to see family. Plus, a mountain pass to go over. It's really cold as in anywhere from 10*F to 20*F in winter
Theres only 3 Electrify America stations for the whole trip. It's pretty far between each station. But I do see other charging stations in between that are at least 50Kw
@Kevin Berg what vehicle do you drive and are there any particular stations to recharge at you can recommend? Looks like there are only 2 EA stations on that route and are down for repair.
@@TheIoniqGuy Turns out that iPedal turns both engines on when engaged in eco mode thus lowering your EPA according to several sources including another Ioniq youtuber. Next test, try using regen 3 instead and the 2nd engine will stay off.
@@ouch1011 I wish that were true but according to several sources, engaging IPedal in eco mode engages both engines and lowers your EPA. I will try to find the link to the youtuber that proved this and post the link.
I watched the display while on the highway for a good chunk of the drive and my front motor didn’t engage. If I were braking and accelerating over and over that may be true but when you’re just cruising with gentle inputs, it doesn’t engage
I used to be jealous of places with 70 mph highways, but with how much speed kills efficiency I guess our pathetic 60mph highways around me have their benefits 😂
@@TheIoniqGuy curious there is a content creator on the fragrance side that looks similar. I’ll have to find the Chanel or IG account. I have a fragrance brand and that person shows up on my feed
OK for you EV enthusiast when a new vehicle is purchased the buyer will keep that vehicle a average of 7 years, currently a EV average new vehicle cost is 64,000 dollars compared to ICE vehicle cost of 48,000 dollars, after the first 3 years of ownership the EV will lose 52% of its value, while the ICE vehicle loses 39.1% of value, so currently what vehicle make the most sense to me its ICE.
If you can charge at home then EVs make way more sense. They are so easy. If you can’t charge at home or work I don’t know that I would recommend one. I would not want to rely on public charging all the time Also your price numbers are a bit skewed as there are many more ICE models to choose from. I don’t think the price discrepancy is nearly as big if you are comparing similar vehicles. Then you need to factor in the cost savings over your hypothetical 7 year ownership experience
35°F "cold" 😅 that is summer weather in finland 🔥🔥
Listening to your video from Québec up north. Love that you add the metric conversion ❤
I’ve had a lot of people request that. I know not everybody uses “freedom units” haha
@@TheIoniqGuy
For many of us, miles are fine, but converting to fahrenheit is quite challenging without an app/tool.
So I'm also grateful for your efforts.
I've been pleasantly surprised so far with my efficiency. I have a '22 SEL AWD and recently took a road trip in 40-50F degree weather. 196 miles, 3.7 mi/kWh in 3 hours and 37 minutes. I used ECO mode and Winter mode. Started at 100% and arrived with 28%. During the summer, I did the same trip and arrived at around 35%.
That’s terrific!
Thank you for making the effort to convert data into metric system! Much appreciated 🙂
Interesting discussion. I just did a trip last night from Far Rockaway New York, to Maryland. Total of 212 mi. I started at 56% SOC, but using ABRP, I saw that if I charge to 80% at the East Brunswick, NJ Electrify America, that I should be able to make it home with 15% battery. Average temperature was in the upper 20s to low 30s, and the trip was done between 10:00 p.m. and 2:00 a.m., so no traffic. Cruise control set to 74 MPH. I don't know if it's because of the speed, the cold, or a combination, but the window of charge in the geuss-o-meter narrowed significantly. When I left the EA station in NJ, it said that I had 182 miles of range, with 160 miles to travel. By the time I got to Maryland, I still had 60 miles to go, but only 50 miles of charge left, forcing me to take an extra stop to charge for a few minutes to make sure I could get home safely.
Also, I left it parked at JFK for over a week with 80% battery, and had zero issues starting it up when I got back.
This was my 2023 gravity Gold RWD SEL
Spot on with my I5 Limited AWD on the Maine highway a few weeks back. 2.8-2.7*75=203-210 miles. Mach E ER with bigger battery would have been under 200. Ioniq is a great EV. 17% loss on a highway run is awesome.
Thats about what we are getting over here in RI/MA also. Wife drives a little over 100 miles a day, and uses 45-55% of the battery depending on temps. I expect range to drop to about 200 when we get those January arctic blasts. Brilliant car overall.
Thanks for good work and videos. Have my 2022 SE AWD since April and getting similar mileage. Range down about 25-30% when it's in 30"s temperature range. Also had a couple of charges go much slower in the cold weather. For example at the EA 150 kW station I see a max speed of 107 compared to the 140 which I usually got in the summer.
Here is a summary of what I plan on currently in Seattle where temps pretty mild
Summer time in town trying hard to "hyper mile drive"- range 340 m. rate 5 m/kwh
Summer time in town driving regular range 280 4.4 m/kwh
Summer road trip at 65-70 mph 240 3.2
Winter (mid 30'S) in town range 220 3. m/kwh
Winter mid 30's road trip (haven't tried yet but expect 210 2.7 m/kwh
Perfect timing, as the winter rolls in I'm curious what other Ioniq 5 owners are getting in efficiency & your numbers exactly match mine...although it's still in the 5-10C range here so I'm guessing I'll lose some efficiency when it gets down to around 0C.
Good first hand review of the mileage.... Thanks for the test drive.
Good to know, Thanks
Thanks..what does winter mode mean?
Wish spend more battery the dual motor or rear drive motor?
When will battery range go up . I have a 2023 ionic awd range says 299 miles but after some cold weather it's dropped to 220. At what temp will it go back up again?
good stuff!
A question for you. Two days ago the side view mirrors would not open. Now they remain unresponsive. Any insight would be appreciated. I can manually move them .
Is the fold button engaged near the window controls?
@@TheIoniqGuy thank you. Geesh, dont I feel stupid…lol. Never used that button, so alls well. Appreciate it. Thanks.
I have winter mode AND preconditioning. These are 2 separate features.
That's not cold 😉 At -25C (-13F), I'm only showing 300km at 100% charge. It was showing 490 in warm temperatures last week with summer tires. Winters on now, too. 2021 Kona EV
2023 Chevy Bolt EUV in 20F 182.6 miles on similar road trip.
I have a smaller battery (58kWh) Ioniq 5 ordered awaiting delivery. This type of test helps me with the range question but coming from a classic 28kwh Ioniq that is as or more efficient than a Model 3 the miles per kWh makes me nervous 😂. Just too used to the ultra efficiency of the classic Ioniq.
Not to worry friend, I own a 58kWh model too (it has a heatpump though) and had it in January 2022... The day of the delivery was a pretty cold --17°F... Went down to -27°. Made a 235mi trip that day. Charged only once on a 50kW charger for 30 minutes. Since then, 30,000mi on the clock and consumption is 3.9mi/kWh. I drive 150mi per day to get to work and I've never had to charge to get back home. If it's cold, time your charging to stop at the time of departure. This way, your battery will be warmer and you'll save precious juice (as much as 8-10kW to warm the batteries). If you nerf the throttle, you can manage around 3.3 driving around 60 at 25°F. At the moment, temperature is below 32°F and I can drive more than 200 miles.
What elevation change did you experience? I am getting a 2023 ionic limited and we live in Colorado. We wanted a vehicle that would go without charge from Boulder to Avon in the winter which is 120 miles from 5300ft up to 11500ft then down to 9000 ft then up to 10500 ft then down to 7500. Also does eco mode send any power to the front wheels at all or is it purely rear wheel. Also I ordered 18 inch rims and snow tires so that should give me about 10-15% more range just from the smaller tires.
@@ouch1011 thanks for the reply. Those are the exact tires and rims I ordered. Have you driven in heavy snow in eco mode or should it be avoided?
Climbing the Coquihalla in BC (which is very steep), I used 3x as much energy as on the flat and got about 1/2 back on the downhill. 2021 Kona EV. That was at 100 kmh (60 mph) in a 110 zone.
And with temperatures well below freezing and with winter tires, I lost another 1/3 in range.
So winter mountain driving requires extra attention.
Really wish this vehicle in AWD form had the range of the Tesla Long Range AWD models. Considering the overall size, which is smaller than the model Y, one might assume this ride could come closer to matching them, but there's no room for a larger battery.
Unlike lucky Kevin J, below, I'm in really cold weather, where we were in the 11-15 for about two weeks. No way the car was getting 200 miles, and the DC charging rate was also very slow. Moving to charging overnight at home only during these cold winter months.
ICE cars suffer significant range loss as well.
Problem with Hyundai and KiIA evs is the lack of system integration as opposed to Tesla
This means it will be very difficult to update or add features like battery conditioning, charging etc. They expect new cars in late 2025 or 2026 may have this ability but will not be backwards compatible
Cool test. This week we have minus 11 degrees celcius where I live in Norway. Did you use driver only on the climate?
Thanks! I did not. I always forget that feature exists. I’m actually wearing a pair of socks with the Norwegian flag on them as we speak. My girlfriend traveled to Trondheim this past march and brought them back as a gift.
@@TheIoniqGuy thats where im from! 😃We have a cabin in Røros which gets minus 30 celcius frequently. Im guessing driver only may be a bit more efficient considering its trying to warm the whole car up. Maybe a video idea for you?
Trondheim looked beautiful. I wanted to join her but the timing just didn't work out for me to go.
Forgive my ignorance but what is Driver Only?
@@TheSpartan948265 its a function in the climate control that focuses the heat on the driver only, conserving energy by not heating the rest
I'm not doing critical math,, but I find I'm losing 25-30% on my highway long days at apx 70mph.. I HAVE indeed gone a few miles past 0 miles left.. IS THERE A RISK WITH THE WARRANTY BY FILLING TO 100% ? AND GOING TO EMPTY? I only do it occasionally as I drive all over NJ. BTW,, I'm finding many 'broken' electrify america chargers..
No, they actually recommend to charge the battery to 100% a couple times per month. Broken chargers are quite common and just part of the experience at this point
Factory tires?
Yeah I’m still on the factory set but they’re getting pretty low in terms of tread depth
@@TheIoniqGuy Thanks. I wasn't sure if you ran winter tires in your area.
@@TheIoniqGuy How many miles do you have on your car? I have a AWD limited. I measured the tire tread depth of all tires(4200 mile), and three of the four tires met the spec for a new tire as listed by Michelin. I have no garage so I must leave my car outside all the time. Like you, I saw a range of about 300 miles as long the temperature never dropped below 50 degrees. With the colder temps, my worst has been 250 miles. Unlike you, I never drive more than 60mph.
I have winter tires, I'm getting 25 kwh/100km (2.5 mi/kwh) around freezing temperatures, but I drive 60 mph max. What do you guys propose for tire pressure? Cold, around 37 psi, and then they warm up to 40 psi on the road and only at that point I start getting better mileage. I' m concerned about the tire pressure being too high, yet, with the weight of the car it might be needed to keep the tire working properly.
How did you precondition the battery?
Battery wasn’t preconditioned
I suspect you would have done better with winter mode on. When I let the Model Y that I’m currently renting do preconditioning, the range jumps up, because a warmer battery provides more range.
Something to investigate in the future. Why are you renting a model Y?
@@TheIoniqGuy I’m visiting Germany right now and needed a rental car to get around.
Besides the preconditioning, what are your impressions of it? Would you consider selling you Ioniq 5 for one?
@@TheIoniqGuy I still prefer the Ioniq 5 in particular because high speed driving is not so important for me and this is where Tesla is clearly better. I will write up a more detailed comparison later :)
I hear you said that all I5s will get preconditioning? I thought that '22 RWD were excluded from that update?
They will not be getting it. I should have specified only AWD
@The Ioniq Guy no problem. Was just double checking.
I’ve been driving a Model Y at very similar conditions recently, highway at 120km/h in temperatures just above 0 Celsius. A bit more hilly than your area. I was surprised how efficient the car is, coming in well below 20kWh/100km. This shows how less aerodynamic the Ioniq 5 sadly is. And perhaps the Model Y is also better at dealing with cold conditions. I heated the car quite well. Will see how my Ioniq 5 does in cold conditions soon.
Why disable winter mode? Doesn't that heat up the battery?
It’s not for extending range, it’s for warming the battery just enough that power delivery to the electric motors doesn’t have to be throttled due to a cold pack. I need to do some further tests to find out just how much it uses and if that takes a big hit to range or not. Because they say it may lower range, I wanted it off to get as much as possible
@@TheIoniqGuy Alright makes sense. I didn't know they say it lowers the range. Depending on the battery chemistry, heating up the battery to 15° can increase your winter range anywhere between 10% and 100%. But it all depends on the battery chemistry and how well the battery pack is insulated to stay warm. I believe lithium iron phosphate cells hate low temperatures the most
Yeah that’s what I want to investigate more; how much it draws vs how much range you could potentially gain (if any) due to a warmer pack
You drive too fast. Your range would increase if you would stick to or go slightly under the speed limit.
So if the 2022 has 256 of range and you only got roughly 185. That's a pretty large hit to the range. I just ordered a 2023 Limited AWD trim so this makes me nervous.
Plus the 14 miles remaining was close to 200. You have to remember that the EPA number is best case in ideal temperatures. In the 80s I get around 280 miles at an average speed of around 55mph. Do you live in a cold climate?
I drive a lot to Eastern Washington (WA State)to see family. Plus, a mountain pass to go over. It's really cold as in anywhere from 10*F to 20*F in winter
Yeah that could get a little hairy. How’s charging infrastructure?
Theres only 3 Electrify America stations for the whole trip. It's pretty far between each station. But I do see other charging stations in between that are at least 50Kw
@Kevin Berg what vehicle do you drive and are there any particular stations to recharge at you can recommend? Looks like there are only 2 EA stations on that route and are down for repair.
can you do a real winter test ? like -20 or something
Video coming soon
@@TheIoniqGuy ok cool because here in montreal we get some -10 to -25 most of the winter from december to march and people park outside
Is that with iPedal OFF when engaging eco mode?
No, I only drive with ipedal unless going down a steep grade. Then I’ll just dial in the appropriate regen level
@@TheIoniqGuy Turns out that iPedal turns both engines on when engaged in eco mode thus lowering your EPA according to several sources including another Ioniq youtuber. Next test, try using regen 3 instead and the 2nd engine will stay off.
@@ouch1011 I wish that were true but according to several sources, engaging IPedal in eco mode engages both engines and lowers your EPA. I will try to find the link to the youtuber that proved this and post the link.
@@TheIoniqGuy Here is the link to the video ruclips.net/video/ZrDcla7pg_o/видео.html
I watched the display while on the highway for a good chunk of the drive and my front motor didn’t engage. If I were braking and accelerating over and over that may be true but when you’re just cruising with gentle inputs, it doesn’t engage
I used to be jealous of places with 70 mph highways, but with how much speed kills efficiency I guess our pathetic 60mph highways around me have their benefits 😂
Do you have a fragrance channel too?
Nope. Why?
@@TheIoniqGuy curious there is a content creator on the fragrance side that looks similar. I’ll have to find the Chanel or IG account. I have a fragrance brand and that person shows up on my feed
Still keeps range better than Tesla in winter.
That's driving pretty slow though, you probably get tons of honks lol
That’s just the average speed with traffic
OK for you EV enthusiast when a new vehicle is purchased the buyer will keep that vehicle a average of 7 years, currently a EV average new vehicle cost is 64,000 dollars compared to ICE vehicle cost of 48,000 dollars, after the first 3 years of ownership the EV will lose 52% of its value, while the ICE vehicle loses 39.1% of value, so currently what vehicle make the most sense to me its ICE.
If you can charge at home then EVs make way more sense. They are so easy. If you can’t charge at home or work I don’t know that I would recommend one. I would not want to rely on public charging all the time
Also your price numbers are a bit skewed as there are many more ICE models to choose from. I don’t think the price discrepancy is nearly as big if you are comparing similar vehicles. Then you need to factor in the cost savings over your hypothetical 7 year ownership experience