I'm getting my 2023 pilot Sport in a couple weeks, this is my only worry with this vehicle since it's a new engine. I know Honda is really good with engines hopefully it was just a defect and you have no issues down the line.
I just got a brand new 2024 Touring a month ago, only have 800miles now, while no engine problems have already experienced a few glitches like no sound out of the stereo one day, powering off and on the radio didn’t help, had to pull over turn the car off, waited about 20-30sec then restarted and stereo was working again. Another instance, the car wouldn’t open even though I had the key fob in my hand. Car wouldn’t unlock even hitting button on the fob or putting my hand and trying to open the driver handle. After several attempts and pressing various buttons on the key fob it was working again. Those two incidents only happened once each and has not happened again since. Other thing that does annoy me is when you start driving and engine and everything is still cold, seems like the transmission shifts weird until it warms up, seems like it shifts through 4-5 gears even before I get to 25mph, but then once it’s warmed up it shifts normally. I don’t know if everyone experiences that or not, but that happens every time unless I’ve remote started it and let it warm up already. So far those are the only things I’ve experienced so far in the one month I’ve had it with only 800mi. 😮
That sucks but life happens to the unlucky few. Two things I'd immediately install in this car is VCM muzzler and idlestopper (or keep turning it off before you drive). Both technologies are asinine. As for warranty voidance, I'd never take to the dealer, their fees are exorbitant; plenty of competent shops can service it for half the cost.
You get wat you pay for at some shops doe. And not always use “oem” quality parts. Not saying straight from honda but same quality. I work at a honda dealer and always get vehicles that come from other mom and pop shops in not so good shape. But im sure their is some good shops just make sure you do the research. Good luck. Also i do own a 23 pilot and haven’t had any issues 🙏🏻. Im one of the lucky ones i guess lol
Same thing happened to my wife. At that point I realized that there was no coming back from that and the car will never run the same. I disconnected the battery for 24 hours which reset the computer. I then traded the car in Immediately.
We have new pilot elite 2023, purchased July. Still in the dealership since aug. 22 waiting for parts that need to be replaced. We have no loaner car. Car is in Alabama. I am now in another state. So currently renting a car and still paying for the car thats not in use. Our case manager does not answer our calls anymore.
My Pilot Trailsport starter and relay had to be replaced at 1200 miles. Vehicle died in middle of the road. All issues point to the idle start/stop. It’s horrible and i always drive with it off in Normal drive mold.
we are waiting till the end of the year to start looking for a deal on a 2024 EXL. first thing to do is vcm muzzler and idlestopper. it's a shame you have to modify a brand new car.
Things happen and I don't doubt the OP, but remember that the small percentage of people who unfortunately experience issues get the loudest voice on social media. Many more thousands of people are happily driving their new gen Pilots without any problems and not taking time out of their day to post about that. As for VCM, I do have some concerns but we never had a single issue on our 2015 Pilot that we traded in at 130K for the new '24 model. No oil consumption or failed engine mounts as was wildly warned about on the interwebs. I'd prefer no VCM system, but on the other hand I'm not losing any sleep over it either.
this makes me worried because I want to get a Pilot rather soon.. and I chose it because of a NA V6 which is usually a reliable option, especially being a Honda, for longevity over turbo 4 Cylinders that Toyota is going for... Oh man. Not cool. They should've kept the Vtec Engine. But also Cylinder deactivation?? Those have to be horrible for engines. Uneven ware and tear for an engine and more parts and software to worry about. I'd probably find a way to deactivate that feature for good. Also might find one with a matching vin to say it was made in Japan.
@@Mee35746 I'll let you know right now, I got the Pilot Trailsport. Absolutely love it man. NA 3.5 V6, nice shaped Boxy style SUV, great interior, and all the safety features you could want. So far I got 3K on it within a month, no complaints from me. Super smooth ride and drive train. Take a test drive in both and see which one you like!
Sad but expected from incredibly reliable cars now built in America...not so reliable anymore...how in God's name do you make a car that has NO part availability???? makes no sense but then again, you see where it's made..they are scrambling and calling NOT japan but china and Mexico for cheap parts to fix your car..that's a bad sign.. 2 months and sorry no parts...They better give you a free car to drive...I hope they resolved your issue and not just put a bandaid on it and shucked over to you...Japan is laughing all the way to the bank with the billions USA pays them to carry that reliable name...Then again Japan must be thinking they are also destroying our reliable name, is it worth giving these imbeciles our technology, blueprints, and allowing them to produce our cars with all Chinese and Mexican parts to make a profit 📈... same shit happened with my 2008 tundra ...thank Goodness this year wasn't so bad and I was able to fix the water pump issue myself.. The dealership couldn't even do it...26k my water pump failed??? I took it to toyota under warranty and 5k miles after it failed again???? So I took it apart and found the issue myself...cheap knock off aisin water pump made in China. NOT JAPAN!!!! with a paper thin plastic gasket instead of rubber...I used honda bond and they told me I voided my warranty...I said I Don't need a warranty from idiots who claim I should never change trans fluid or oil changes every 10k or 20k miles...be aware Honda and Toyotas are no longer Japanese reliability cars...still better than the alternatives but not even close to before...you must do your homework..
We have the exact same issue with Touring Pilot. And after couple months Honda told us that the engine needs to be replaced. Our car is at the shop since May 10, 2023 to the current date August 22,2023.
So whats the problem? You bought a NEW vehicle, and it has bugs, its to be expected with a newly engineered vehicle. At least you have something to put wear and tear on while they figure out whats wrong with your vehicle that is literally not getting more miles on.
I don't get comments Ike this. It's expected to have bugs in a new vehicle??? It's comments like this that give cover to these car companies. I mean how much is really that different in this car the engine is from an MDX. The 10 speed has been in the Odessy since 2017. The safety tech and infotainment are all tested in other cars??? 40 +K for car there should be some expectation of quality especially from Honda....
Thanks for sharing. Hoping you guys get your vehicle back soon!
I'm getting my 2023 pilot Sport in a couple weeks, this is my only worry with this vehicle since it's a new engine. I know Honda is really good with engines hopefully it was just a defect and you have no issues down the line.
I’ve been trolled before for criticizing the VCM system in the Honda V6’s. Honda just needs to get rid of it! Good luck on your next vehicle search.
oh no, I bought a 2023 Pilot Trailsport last May 2023, only 5k miles on it so far, I'm really hoping I don't these same issues.
I just got a brand new 2024 Touring a month ago, only have 800miles now, while no engine problems have already experienced a few glitches like no sound out of the stereo one day, powering off and on the radio didn’t help, had to pull over turn the car off, waited about 20-30sec then restarted and stereo was working again. Another instance, the car wouldn’t open even though I had the key fob in my hand. Car wouldn’t unlock even hitting button on the fob or putting my hand and trying to open the driver handle. After several attempts and pressing various buttons on the key fob it was working again. Those two incidents only happened once each and has not happened again since. Other thing that does annoy me is when you start driving and engine and everything is still cold, seems like the transmission shifts weird until it warms up, seems like it shifts through 4-5 gears even before I get to 25mph, but then once it’s warmed up it shifts normally. I don’t know if everyone experiences that or not, but that happens every time unless I’ve remote started it and let it warm up already. So far those are the only things I’ve experienced so far in the one month I’ve had it with only 800mi. 😮
That sucks but life happens to the unlucky few.
Two things I'd immediately install in this car is VCM muzzler and idlestopper (or keep turning it off before you drive). Both technologies are asinine.
As for warranty voidance, I'd never take to the dealer, their fees are exorbitant; plenty of competent shops can service it for half the cost.
I would only go to the dealer for warranty work. Otherwise, avoid the dealers like the plague.
You get wat you pay for at some shops doe. And not always use “oem” quality parts. Not saying straight from honda but same quality. I work at a honda dealer and always get vehicles that come from other mom and pop shops in not so good shape. But im sure their is some good shops just make sure you do the research. Good luck.
Also i do own a 23 pilot and haven’t had any issues 🙏🏻. Im one of the lucky ones i guess lol
Same thing happened to my wife. At that point I realized that there was no coming back from that and the car will never run the same. I disconnected the battery for 24 hours which reset the computer. I then traded the car in Immediately.
We have new pilot elite 2023, purchased July. Still in the dealership since aug. 22 waiting for parts that need to be replaced. We have no loaner car. Car is in Alabama. I am now in another state. So currently renting a car and still paying for the car thats not in use. Our case manager does not answer our calls anymore.
Is the VCM muzzler are part you install, where can it be boight and how is it installed? TIA
My Pilot Trailsport starter and relay had to be replaced at 1200 miles. Vehicle died in middle of the road. All issues point to the idle start/stop. It’s horrible and i always drive with it off in Normal drive mold.
I got the idlestopper for my Trailsport and my Passport
@michaelroberts9339 where did you get it and is it hard to install?
Buds went on a road trip in the poilet, it did this b4 the engine blew
Great I got a sport last week. I think the problem is it’s all new engine all new transmission. We are the test dummies.
we are waiting till the end of the year to start looking for a deal on a 2024 EXL. first thing to do is vcm muzzler and idlestopper. it's a shame you have to modify a brand new car.
I have a 2023 pilot touring. Just hit 11k miles. Still running good, but now im worried.
Great to hear I'll keep you guys updated.
Things happen and I don't doubt the OP, but remember that the small percentage of people who unfortunately experience issues get the loudest voice on social media. Many more thousands of people are happily driving their new gen Pilots without any problems and not taking time out of their day to post about that.
As for VCM, I do have some concerns but we never had a single issue on our 2015 Pilot that we traded in at 130K for the new '24 model. No oil consumption or failed engine mounts as was wildly warned about on the interwebs. I'd prefer no VCM system, but on the other hand I'm not losing any sleep over it either.
this makes me worried because I want to get a Pilot rather soon.. and I chose it because of a NA V6 which is usually a reliable option, especially being a Honda, for longevity over turbo 4 Cylinders that Toyota is going for... Oh man. Not cool. They should've kept the Vtec Engine. But also Cylinder deactivation?? Those have to be horrible for engines. Uneven ware and tear for an engine and more parts and software to worry about. I'd probably find a way to deactivate that feature for good. Also might find one with a matching vin to say it was made in Japan.
I'm debating on the highlander or the pilot loll but can't decide
@@Mee35746 I'll let you know right now, I got the Pilot Trailsport. Absolutely love it man. NA 3.5 V6, nice shaped Boxy style SUV, great interior, and all the safety features you could want. So far I got 3K on it within a month, no complaints from me. Super smooth ride and drive train. Take a test drive in both and see which one you like!
Sorry about this. Horrible. I put a deposit down on a new pilot - I will be getting an odyssey with the old vtech sohc instead.
Odyssey has VCM also. It’s just an unfortunate situation that hopefully none of us J35 owners will experience.
Sad but expected from incredibly reliable cars now built in America...not so reliable anymore...how in God's name do you make a car that has NO part availability???? makes no sense but then again, you see where it's made..they are scrambling and calling NOT japan but china and Mexico for cheap parts to fix your car..that's a bad sign.. 2 months and sorry no parts...They better give you a free car to drive...I hope they resolved your issue and not just put a bandaid on it and shucked over to you...Japan is laughing all the way to the bank with the billions USA pays them to carry that reliable name...Then again Japan must be thinking they are also destroying our reliable name, is it worth giving these imbeciles our technology, blueprints, and allowing them to produce our cars with all Chinese and Mexican parts to make a profit 📈...
same shit happened with my 2008 tundra ...thank Goodness this year wasn't so bad and I was able to fix the water pump issue myself.. The dealership couldn't even do it...26k my water pump failed??? I took it to toyota under warranty and 5k miles after it failed again???? So I took it apart and found the issue myself...cheap knock off aisin water pump made in China. NOT JAPAN!!!! with a paper thin plastic gasket instead of rubber...I used honda bond and they told me I voided my warranty...I said I Don't need a warranty from idiots who claim I should never change trans fluid or oil changes every 10k or 20k miles...be aware Honda and Toyotas are no longer Japanese reliability cars...still better than the alternatives but not even close to before...you must do your homework..
Yeah, i think i will hold on to my 2019 Passport for a while.
Same o Honda
We have the exact same issue with Touring Pilot. And after couple months Honda told us that the engine needs to be replaced. Our car is at the shop since May 10, 2023 to the current date August 22,2023.
Oh my that sucks, how many miles did you have on it when it failed?
Yes, we are so disappointed, it’s not what we expected. Only 3000 miles.
Lemon law in your state?
I want of the EX-L 🤷🏽♂️😫🤦🏽
2024 trail sport with 6k on it. catalyctic converter needs to be replaced 😑
Man- I think you should stop driving when the dash lights on to avoid further damages to the engine.
Did you get BAD GAS??? Because it happened after you got gas..... I know of someone els with a different vehicle that this happened to !
No, a cylinder head solenoid failed and they are still trying to get parts to replace it.
All these crazy things happening but you guys act like there's no lemon laws.
Very sad that all these new cars becoming garbage
Its just simple fix
@ericdarmawan9504 we bought a 2023 armada sv brand new , around 1,000 miles, we replace the fan clutch, the fan was staying on
Made in USA
Buy a Honda they say... they never break they say
its insane...how being newer with old tech engine is suppose to be more reliable...and instead they get worst and worst.
So whats the problem? You bought a NEW vehicle, and it has bugs, its to be expected with a newly engineered vehicle. At least you have something to put wear and tear on while they figure out whats wrong with your vehicle that is literally not getting more miles on.
I don't get comments Ike this. It's expected to have bugs in a new vehicle??? It's comments like this that give cover to these car companies. I mean how much is really that different in this car the engine is from an MDX. The 10 speed has been in the Odessy since 2017. The safety tech and infotainment are all tested in other cars??? 40 +K for car there should be some expectation of quality especially from Honda....