Salvete Amici! This is a re-release of our 2nd video on this channel. We had to take it down due to a copyright issue. RUclips and copyright, truly a wonderful union, it works as well as the Magister Militum and Emperor system worked after 400 AD in the west. We will release the next regular video on Friday, and from now on, there will be one new video every Friday. Sometimes, if time allows, we will release an additional bonus video per week.
Make a video about Alarich. He is always portraited as the "bad guy barbarian" even though it was honrious that deserves all the blame. Romans treated his kin like crap and the sack of rome was a very just payback to this degenerate empereor who killed thousands of innocent family members.
I watched the first release and watched all through this rerelease. Fascinating stuff! Can not WAIT to see your video on the gothic wars. These parts in history are way too often overlooked and incredibly interesting.
@@laughsatchungus1461 There is no moral highground anyways. Look at what the romans did to people they defeated. Every time massive genocides & the rest enslaved (gaul as a good example). They regulary went into germania slaughtering countless civilians and burning down their villages. In the end, rome just got a taste of their own medicine by their new germanic overlords.
The fact that it took until 1930, well into the modern age, for Rome to reach 1 million people again, is astounding and tragic to me. Even as one of the most important cities of the middle ages, they were a shadow of their former self. A symbol for the medieval era as a whole.
Without Roman tecnology you can't have a city of 1 million, you need great amounts of water and food at least but the gothic war send italy directly to the most horrible dark age that you can imagine, just see how many dialects italy have because of the brutal division of the province, and as usual in Roman history the destroyer of italy was a roman emperor, Justinian I.
Hello and thanks for coming here from the old channel. I am sorry that we didn't continue with the old channel, but I hope you will find this one here also interesting in some form. Total Space will do an excellent job over at 2TF, and continue the legacy, I am sure of that.
Thank you for linking this channel in your old channel. I watched the other channel because I loved the content presented by Sebastions voice. I also love history and have studied extensively the connections that are being made all over the world that we have been taught wrong history. I have not studied the Roman empire much but am looking forwards to all your content. This is my first video of yours on this channel and it won't take me long to watch them all. Thank you again.
Hello Sir, and thanks for watching the old channel :) I really appreciate having people come here, even though the topic is really different. But I am even more happy to see so many people interested in both Spaceflight and history. That is a remarkable comination :) I hope I can provide you with good information about the Roman Empire, and wish you a nice time here. All the best, Sebastian.
I could listen to your voice narrating paint dry all day long! your soothes like a warm cup of the finest belgian milk chocolate! thank you for a great channel and look forward to my next cup of your content lol!
Hahahha, thanks a lot for that awesome compliment. I am really happy that I have a soothing voice. I try to be as calm and soothing as possible, which is a bit difficult sometimes, but I am glad that apparently it works.
Don't worry Paul, I won't. I am utterly fascinated by everything related with Rome, or the late Roman Empire, even until the end of the eastern roman empire, so I will definitely continue :)
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian I am so fascinated with the history of eternal Rome. The condition of the monuments like the Circus Maximus as the centuries past by right through till the 19nth . The rate of degradation , the botanical growth So austere ! The silence of the past
Amazing assessment. Always love your work. Bravo! There is one thing missing from your assessment, and that is the flooding and silt deposition from the Tiber into the lower areas, and also from the rains. In Largo Argentina, close to the Tiber, there is evidence of this slow rise even in ancient times by the repaving of the surface at higher levels. After empire tax revenues were redirected in the late empire, civil maintenance likely diminished. A couple centimeters of silt deposition on the Forum pavement or the circus maximus racecourse could no longer be removed. By The 1800's this deposition had translated to several meters.
@CHAS1422 Hello Sir ! Thank you for the excellent comment. Indeed yes, we will talk about that in future videos, when we shall witness the transformation of the old Rome of antiquity, to the Rome of the middle ages. This process started already in the 5th century AD, but was kept in check by the still functioning Senate, and the Praefectus Urbi, who still oversaw the repair of many of the old temples and monuments. But after the gothic wars, all these roman structures were destroyed. There was no funding any more for anything, and the population declined even more. That is when all the floodings would start go rampant, no effort was done to repair the damage or remove the silt, and thus the slow process of covering large parts of Rome with soil over hundreds of years, would start in the 6th century, and accelerate after the 7th century AD.
Fantastic!! Amazing video!! Ancient Rome at its height had well over a million citizens. The census of Augustus only recorded voting eligible men; which were about/near a million. Nearly all those men were almost certainly married so add up. And almost every family had at least one child...so add another million or so....and this isn't even taking into account Romes elderly, slaves, non-citizens and military.
I really hope there is a grain of truth in the myth of Alaric's tomb and someone finds it one day. It would be a massive thing for all groups descendants from the Goths and allows to find a treasure trove of priceless roman artifacts that belong in a museum.
@@redterrorproductions1373 Ancient Peoples built tombs because they wanted to "Live" forever in the afterlife, and take their wealthy worldly possessions with them. When we find ancient Tombs today, IMO we SHOULD excavate, catalogue and display those tombs for the public for the purpose of educating and informing future generations about the identities and lives of those ancient peoples. This is not desecration, this is granting their wish for an immortal afterlife - because a person is never truly gone so long as people remember them. Being remembered forever IS living forever.
Trying this out after your old channel. Good stuff, I will stay subscribed. Could you do something on Titus and the Great Jewish Revolt? Enjoy your new found freedom and do not give it up ;-)
Here's one for you, Maioranus: How far declined was the city of Rome in 1300 AD, and then 1400 AD? In terms of remaining edifices, temples, and other well-known buildings.
Very good question. I want to make a video at some point, where we go through the strong decay era, from 600 AD until the Renaissance. After the gothic wars, the real decay would start.
The real murderer of the city and Italy was Justinian The Fool, sorry The great, a guy that never had a plan for italy, that never rebuilt the aqueducts and his succesors only continued with the sacking of the city and the greatest irony is that he never visited the city that he wanted so desperately to recover, his jealousy sent Belisarius without enough troops and avoided him to have a quick victory like in North Africa and shorly after lose again Rome and most of Italy he had to begin again with Narses, the result was the complete devastation of Italy and the further invation of the Lombards, combine this with the Chaos of the Usurper Phocas and the great war against the Sassanids and the great mistake of Leo III with the Iconoclasm and you will obtein a shatterd Italy that only could be reunited until 1871
Yes, I completely agree! We will analyze the full aftermath of the gothic wars in an entire video, and see the utter desolation and destruction that this war caused in Italy and in Rome. Justinian really did destroy everything that was left of the old classical Rome.
Very much overstretched gains. I was thinking that it is a tragedy that so many of the important buildings did not survive in tact. But at least we have the Pantheon (Rebuilt in the 2nd century AD).
One thing I have to disagree with you on is that the Rome did not have 800 years of untouched accumulation. On July 18, 64 CE, a fire started in the enormous Circus Maximus stadium in Rome. When the fire was finally extinguished six days later, 10 of Rome's 14 districts had burned. So it was not untouched as the fire destroyed many things built up to that point. Great video though love it.
This is a good point raised here. Maybe my choice of words was not ideal, I hope you will forgive me XD Yes, indeed, there were fires, even earthquakes, in the 800 years of undisturbed from external threats history, the city was ravaged multiple times by fires, and other disasters like earthquakes and Tiber floodings. I think we must analyze the severity of those in other videos, good idea ! :)
The fire of 64 AD broke out during a full moon, which undermines the legend that it was set deliberately. (Arsonists would be more likely to do the job on a darker night.)
Hello, good Sir ! Do not worry, later on, we shall explore the eastern roman empire, as thoroughly as the western one. Because let me tell you: I love Constantinople almost as much as Rome, it must have been a splendorous city. This channel will go all the way until 1453 AD, nay, even until the Fall of Trebizond, or the principality of Theodoro.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian based, personally I prefer Roman history that starts from the crisis of the third century to the fall of costantinopolis So another praise bro
I was hoping for a reference to the Gothic Wars :) I've always found it appalling that in their desire to retake Italy the Eastern Romans utterly wrecked it and reduced the former capital to so much rubble.
The ostrogoths handled the torch of rome with care. They rebuilt monuments, continued to keep roman institutions modelled after roman legislation. Belisarius and Justinian completely destroyed roman society in italy and treated the italians like foreign occupiers. Italy, and the eastern roman empire, would’ve been much better off.
I often wonder how different history would have been (if at all) if the Eastern Romans had taken the route of the early muslims. They would retake all of Africa, crossing the strait into Hispania, instead of going straight for Italia, only to fight such a gruesome war and lose so much progress to the Lombards. Of course, the plague still would have ocurred, and the Persians still would have broken their peace treaty.
Should we assume from 410 onwards that the Lateran Palace and the St. Peter's Church, the former inside and the latter outside the Aurelian Walls, remained absolutely intact along with the Aurelian Walls itself?
Hello: This is an interesting question. The exact state of the Lateran Palace and St. Peter's church would surely be an interesting topic of research. I only know of St. Peter's Basilica, that it was not harmed in the sackings, because all attackers were Christians. The Visigoths, the Vandals, even Ricimer: They were all Christian and thus respected St. Peter, and did not harm the Basilica. The old Basilica stood until the 15th century, although by then it was already in very bad shape.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian I think you mean they all thought they were Christians. “By their actions shall you know them.” Was there a single commandment that these plunderers didn’t break?
I really like your channel and your videos about late antiquity but I have one comment concerning pronunciation of names - sometimes you maintain "ancient Latin" reading (by provinces) but when reading Germanic, Greek or sometimes even Latin names you either pronounce them English, sometimes "reconstructed" and sometimes German. It sounds a little bit inconsistent when I hear Dalma"T"ia and "C"eno in one sentence. :-)
The fall is not just one thing and not quickly BUT rather a cumulative effect. LOOK outside if you live in any major city (remember Rome is urban) TONIGHT there has not been so many barbarians homeless, living rough shanty gatherings out there in my near 7 decades, here in LA anyways. Where are we in the fall of Rome currently?
Excellent comment! Yes, there is a lot of decay in American cities. Detroit is such an example. We can see how quickly cities can decay, if not kept in shape. Certainly a topic worth investigating in a separate video.
Detroit gained its current finish because of the reckless and myopic policy of the politicians. They increased local government and raised taxes to support it, which led to the mass exodus of businesses to nearby areas. This change entailed depopulation, and the city crumbled. Nowadays, the majority of its inhabitants are social care recipients.
I never realised myself this. But I do find it hard to believe that a city that loses its income, is sacked three times and loses 80% of its population will look the same. Even from a distance. Buildings need constant repair and if that is not feasible, they will quickly collapse, f.e. in a storm or earthquake.
Hi, this is a valid point, but please take a look at the cited literature in the video. This video's purpose is not to show in what a pristine condition Rome was in 476AD, but to show that is was in a better condition than most people believe, or is being propagated. Rome in 476 was still formidable, and many of the old monuments were still standing. Yes of course there was decay, of course buildings had already collapsed. But we have records, showing that many buildings were kept in repair even under the reign of Theoderich, after 500AD. For instance, the wine tax of Italy was used to keep the palace on the palatine hill in shape, and there are inscriptions of repairs of many buildings after the earthquake of 484 AD.
Given the flow of people from Rome to Constantinople in the late 4th and into the 5th centuries who I presume were mostly Latin speaking, was there a period when Constantinople was a truly bilingual city of Latin and Greek? Or did this Latin speaking group just abandon their language and adopt a koine Greek immediately?
Che grand peccato. I popoli che la saccheggiarono non capirono l'importanza di quella città millenaria. E Costantino che spostò la capitale da Roma. Hanno distrutto con le loro mani un impero favoloso e grandioso.
What do you think was the state of paganism in population of Rome in that year? I know it was oficialy banned and closed but you cannot unroot human ideas that quickly. I imagine late in the night people of Rome still carrying gifts to the old temples... but do we have some evidence of this? Thank you
@SudetenRider - Pili Hello Sir, and welcome. This is an excellent question, and you are completely right. It took a very long time and hundreds of years of anti Pagan laws and persecutions to extinguish the old Pagan traditions. I made a video on that topic, which you can watch here: ruclips.net/video/Y1P7DOAB8Cw/видео.html But in that video, we critizise early Christianity a bit, so if you are a hardcore Christian, you might find it a bit offensive. However, I must repeat that it's early Christianity that we critizise, and not current Christianity. Those are two quite different things. I hope you will learn some interesting things in this video. Indeed, it was said that Anthemius was the last emperor, who was a secret Pagan, and tried to restore the old cults. But he was killed by Ricimer before he could do so.
I love the video. I would just like to point out that, although it is more and more common to hear bad English in media, -- for example: "If you would have been in Rome in 535 a.d. , you would have seen all the buildings intact", correct English would be: "If you had been in Rome in 535 a.d., you would have seen all the buildings intact." Respectfully, S. Bryant, Montreal, Canada
I don't think that this is entirely true, many historians if not all of them were roman, and its was important to maintain the the status of the eternal city. Rome had 1 or even 2 milion people in 2nd century AD, it was the largest city on Earth, imagine lossing 70/80% of that population in 200 years, the city would look like a ghost city, many roads, buildings and houses would collapse, roman insulas were very fragile, it was very comon for a roman house in the city to fall, or destroyed by fires. Imagine 3 sacks with fire, pillage, plagues, etc, i belive 50/60% of the city was in ruins at 476 AD, at least the houses and older buildings, there was no money to repair, no manpower, the city had 100k of people in 476 AD if it had that many, i doubt it, my bets are more on 70/80k population, would you have stayed ina city that was sacked 3 times in less than 100 years? of course not, having your wife and daughters rapped or killed, you made slave or killed, or course not, Constantinople was roman and a safe place. The old temples were pagan, christians didn't cared about the old temples, they would have been in ruins or abandoned, the white marble would look like black cause of the fires, the roads and buildings would have plants, the public baths were ripped out of their statues and walls destroyed for the gold, i belive the city would be in preety bad shape in 476, very bad shape, of course the most used buildings like pantheon, circus coliseum, etc would be in a good shape, because they were used, and there was some care, but old pagan temples, 70% of the houses, gardens, mausoleums, etc those would be in ruins, and when i say ruin i don't mean like the roman forum in nowdays i mean abandoned, some parts destroyed for gold, burned. If Odoacer made a law to stop people of using stone of older buildings it was because it was a common practice and it was visible what was happening to the city. You don't go to a perfect well perserved building that is bing used and steal stones, you go to ruins and used the stones.
Hello. I base this video on archeological research, and findings presented in the books: 1. "History of the City of Rome in the Middle Ages" by Ferdinand Gregorovius amzn.to/3yOvjEd 2. "Rome: Profile of a City, 312-1308" by Richard Krautheimer amzn.to/3yyChgp 3. "Rome: An Urban History from Antiquity to the Present" by Rabun Taylor amzn.to/322ClsZ So this is not just some stuff that I "believe". It's not about believing, one can believe in God or not, but this is about archeological evidence. And it suggests that the real decay and disaster for Rome started after the gothic wars. Also your number of 70/80k population in 476 is wrong, even in 500 AD, it can be reconstructed to have been at least 100k, possibly even 150k, by pork and grain supplied to the city, by the Praefectus Urbi. I can agree though, that the outer lying parts of the city, must have already been in bad condition. Especially the not so frequented areas, because the city was very large. We shall explore that in future videos. This video here is more about the old grandiose monuments of Rome: The imperial Fora, the Amphitheatrum, the Basilicas, the old Pagan temples. They were in better shape that many people think, and that is what this video is about. We must explore the regular Domus, houses, etc, the outer lying parts of the city, in additional videos, as this topic is very complex. But many were still in use until the gothic wars.
Salvete Amici! This is a re-release of our 2nd video on this channel. We had to take it down due to a copyright issue. RUclips and copyright, truly a wonderful union, it works as well as the Magister Militum and Emperor system worked after 400 AD in the west. We will release the next regular video on Friday, and from now on, there will be one new video every Friday. Sometimes, if time allows, we will release an additional bonus video per week.
Make a video about Alarich. He is always portraited as the "bad guy barbarian" even though it was honrious that deserves all the blame. Romans treated his kin like crap and the sack of rome was a very just payback to this degenerate empereor who killed thousands of innocent family members.
I watched the first release and watched all through this rerelease. Fascinating stuff! Can not WAIT to see your video on the gothic wars. These parts in history are way too often overlooked and incredibly interesting.
@@hanz3967 i agree. I don’t blame the Visigoths at all, considering what the romans did to them.
@@laughsatchungus1461 There is no moral highground anyways. Look at what the romans did to people they defeated. Every time massive genocides & the rest enslaved (gaul as a good example). They regulary went into germania slaughtering countless civilians and burning down their villages. In the end, rome just got a taste of their own medicine by their new germanic overlords.
Gratias Dominus Majorianus
The fact that it took until 1930, well into the modern age, for Rome to reach 1 million people again, is astounding and tragic to me. Even as one of the most important cities of the middle ages, they were a shadow of their former self. A symbol for the medieval era as a whole.
Wow, that's truly astounding. I had no idea that it took until 1930AD to finally reach this population again.
Without Roman tecnology you can't have a city of 1 million, you need great amounts of water and food at least but the gothic war send italy directly to the most horrible dark age that you can imagine, just see how many dialects italy have because of the brutal division of the province, and as usual in Roman history the destroyer of italy was a roman emperor, Justinian I.
@@sergioacevedo2254 in the middle ages Rome had around 10000 to 15000 inhabitants and just 1 aqueduct so it was close to disappear.
@@josefmaster1188 Some people would look at numerous dialects as a cultural asset...
Malaria depopulated a lot of areas. St. Ignatius of Loyola died of malaria near Rome.
Thanks for sharing Sebastian ❣️ Rome the Eternal City always. Kind regards Niall O'Connell Dundalk Ireland.
Your videos always answers my questions about Rome
Keep it up
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it :) Then you might be happy to hear, that I have amassed 200+ topics for many years of continuous content :)
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian do one on the ancient Rome and the Etruscans
You are the best ! I’m an obsessive reader on the late empire The inside of our home looks like the Italian consulate !
Hehe thanks :)
not a topic for me right now but came to say a big Thank You for all you've done on your original channel!
Hello and thanks for coming here from the old channel. I am sorry that we didn't continue with the old channel, but I hope you will find this one here also interesting in some form.
Total Space will do an excellent job over at 2TF, and continue the legacy, I am sure of that.
The highlight of your channel is when you casually refer to Richimer as the "Evil Bastard" lol
Thank you for linking this channel in your old channel. I watched the other channel because I loved the content presented by Sebastions voice.
I also love history and have studied extensively the connections that are being made all over the world that we have been taught wrong history.
I have not studied the Roman empire much but am looking forwards to all your content.
This is my first video of yours on this channel and it won't take me long to watch them all. Thank you again.
Hello Sir, and thanks for watching the old channel :) I really appreciate having people come here, even though the topic is really different. But I am even more happy to see so many people interested in both Spaceflight and history. That is a remarkable comination :)
I hope I can provide you with good information about the Roman Empire, and wish you a nice time here. All the best, Sebastian.
I could listen to your voice narrating paint dry all day long! your soothes like a warm cup of the finest belgian milk chocolate! thank you for a great channel and look forward to my next cup of your content lol!
Hahahha, thanks a lot for that awesome compliment. I am really happy that I have a soothing voice. I try to be as calm and soothing as possible, which is a bit difficult sometimes, but I am glad that apparently it works.
When you have a massive city but it is significantly empty it has the same feel as a massive football stadium used for a family gathering.
Please don’t stop with these videos !
Don't worry Paul, I won't. I am utterly fascinated by everything related with Rome, or the late Roman Empire, even until the end of the eastern roman empire, so I will definitely continue :)
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian I am so fascinated with the history of eternal Rome. The condition of the monuments like the Circus Maximus as the centuries past by right through till the 19nth . The rate of degradation , the botanical growth So austere ! The silence of the past
Amazing assessment. Always love your work. Bravo! There is one thing missing from your assessment, and that is the flooding and silt deposition from the Tiber into the lower areas, and also from the rains. In Largo Argentina, close to the Tiber, there is evidence of this slow rise even in ancient times by the repaving of the surface at higher levels. After empire tax revenues were redirected in the late empire, civil maintenance likely diminished. A couple centimeters of silt deposition on the Forum pavement or the circus maximus racecourse could no longer be removed. By The 1800's this deposition had translated to several meters.
@CHAS1422 Hello Sir ! Thank you for the excellent comment. Indeed yes, we will talk about that in future videos, when we shall witness the transformation of the old Rome of antiquity, to the Rome of the middle ages. This process started already in the 5th century AD, but was kept in check by the still functioning Senate, and the Praefectus Urbi, who still oversaw the repair of many of the old temples and monuments. But after the gothic wars, all these roman structures were destroyed. There was no funding any more for anything, and the population declined even more. That is when all the floodings would start go rampant, no effort was done to repair the damage or remove the silt, and thus the slow process of covering large parts of Rome with soil over hundreds of years, would start in the 6th century, and accelerate after the 7th century AD.
Fantastic!! Amazing video!! Ancient Rome at its height had well over a million citizens. The census of Augustus only recorded voting eligible men; which were about/near a million. Nearly all those men were almost certainly married so add up. And almost every family had at least one child...so add another million or so....and this isn't even taking into account Romes elderly, slaves, non-citizens and military.
The West Roman Empire died with Majorian. In 476 the corpse was buried.
I really hope there is a grain of truth in the myth of Alaric's tomb and someone finds it one day. It would be a massive thing for all groups descendants from the Goths and allows to find a treasure trove of priceless roman artifacts that belong in a museum.
Are you suggesting desecration?
@@redterrorproductions1373 I am suggesting archaeology.
@@redterrorproductions1373
Ancient Peoples built tombs because they wanted to "Live" forever in the afterlife, and take their wealthy worldly possessions with them.
When we find ancient Tombs today, IMO we SHOULD excavate, catalogue and display those tombs for the public for the purpose of educating and informing future generations about the identities and lives of those ancient peoples.
This is not desecration, this is granting their wish for an immortal afterlife - because a person is never truly gone so long as people remember them. Being remembered forever IS living forever.
@@redterrorproductions1373 I mean.....he desecrated Rome.
@@diamondinthesky4771 Rome deserved it.
Trying this out after your old channel. Good stuff, I will stay subscribed. Could you do something on Titus and the Great Jewish Revolt? Enjoy your new found freedom and do not give it up ;-)
4am flexing. Btw could you cover Gallienus’s reign. Btw this is a reupload right?
Yes, it is a reupload.
Here's one for you, Maioranus:
How far declined was the city of Rome in 1300 AD, and then 1400 AD?
In terms of remaining edifices, temples, and other well-known buildings.
Very good question. I want to make a video at some point, where we go through the strong decay era, from 600 AD until the Renaissance. After the gothic wars, the real decay would start.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian i can t wait, always struggled to find new sources with this subject
How much of what was plundered from Rome had originally been plundered by Rome?
Wow, what an amazing channel. I have always been taught that the Germanic invaders were the cause of the ruins of Rome we now see today
The real murderer of the city and Italy was Justinian The Fool, sorry The great, a guy that never had a plan for italy, that never rebuilt the aqueducts and his succesors only continued with the sacking of the city and the greatest irony is that he never visited the city that he wanted so desperately to recover, his jealousy sent Belisarius without enough troops and avoided him to have a quick victory like in North Africa and shorly after lose again Rome and most of Italy he had to begin again with Narses, the result was the complete devastation of Italy and the further invation of the Lombards, combine this with the Chaos of the Usurper Phocas and the great war against the Sassanids and the great mistake of Leo III with the Iconoclasm and you will obtein a shatterd Italy that only could be reunited until 1871
Yes, I completely agree! We will analyze the full aftermath of the gothic wars in an entire video, and see the utter desolation and destruction that this war caused in Italy and in Rome. Justinian really did destroy everything that was left of the old classical Rome.
Very much overstretched gains. I was thinking that it is a tragedy that so many of the important buildings did not survive in tact. But at least we have the Pantheon (Rebuilt in the 2nd century AD).
One thing I have to disagree with you on is that the Rome did not have 800 years of untouched accumulation. On July 18, 64 CE, a fire started in the enormous Circus Maximus stadium in Rome. When the fire was finally extinguished six days later, 10 of Rome's 14 districts had burned. So it was not untouched as the fire destroyed many things built up to that point.
Great video though love it.
Ok then, 800 years of untouched accumulation....for the _most_ part.
Fires were very common in Rome, the city was not 100% marble, 70% of the building were houses or shops or other buildings made of wood and weak stone
This is a good point raised here. Maybe my choice of words was not ideal, I hope you will forgive me XD
Yes, indeed, there were fires, even earthquakes, in the 800 years of undisturbed from external threats history, the city was ravaged multiple times by fires, and other disasters like earthquakes and Tiber floodings. I think we must analyze the severity of those in other videos, good idea ! :)
The fire of 64 AD broke out during a full moon, which undermines the legend that it was set deliberately. (Arsonists would be more likely to do the job on a darker night.)
In my opinion you should do videos until Heraclitus has I think that from there the Easter Roman Empire became fully hellenized + Muslim invasions
Hello, good Sir ! Do not worry, later on, we shall explore the eastern roman empire, as thoroughly as the western one. Because let me tell you: I love Constantinople almost as much as Rome, it must have been a splendorous city. This channel will go all the way until 1453 AD, nay, even until the Fall of Trebizond, or the principality of Theodoro.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian based, personally I prefer Roman history that starts from the crisis of the third century to the fall of costantinopolis So another praise bro
very interesting
I was hoping for a reference to the Gothic Wars :)
I've always found it appalling that in their desire to retake Italy the Eastern Romans utterly wrecked it and reduced the former capital to so much rubble.
The ostrogoths handled the torch of rome with care. They rebuilt monuments, continued to keep roman institutions modelled after roman legislation. Belisarius and Justinian completely destroyed roman society in italy and treated the italians like foreign occupiers. Italy, and the eastern roman empire, would’ve been much better off.
I often wonder how different history would have been (if at all) if the Eastern Romans had taken the route of the early muslims. They would retake all of Africa, crossing the strait into Hispania, instead of going straight for Italia, only to fight such a gruesome war and lose so much progress to the Lombards. Of course, the plague still would have ocurred, and the Persians still would have broken their peace treaty.
Ave Maiorianus
Ave Flavius Julianus! A great emperor thou wast! How I wish you wouldn't have tried to invade Persia.
So basically Rome in 476 AD was like Detroit of today and LA in the near future.
You should talk more about the Roman Empire in the east.
Should we assume from 410 onwards that the Lateran Palace and the St. Peter's Church, the former inside and the latter outside the Aurelian Walls, remained absolutely intact along with the Aurelian Walls itself?
Hello: This is an interesting question. The exact state of the Lateran Palace and St. Peter's church would surely be an interesting topic of research. I only know of St. Peter's Basilica, that it was not harmed in the sackings, because all attackers were Christians. The Visigoths, the Vandals, even Ricimer: They were all Christian and thus respected St. Peter, and did not harm the Basilica. The old Basilica stood until the 15th century, although by then it was already in very bad shape.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian I think you mean they all thought they were Christians. “By their actions shall you know them.” Was there a single commandment that these plunderers didn’t break?
I really like your channel and your videos about late antiquity but I have one comment concerning pronunciation of names - sometimes you maintain "ancient Latin" reading (by provinces) but when reading Germanic, Greek or sometimes even Latin names you either pronounce them English, sometimes "reconstructed" and sometimes German. It sounds a little bit inconsistent when I hear Dalma"T"ia and "C"eno in one sentence. :-)
I really appreciate your work, tibi gratias ago! Would love to see your work on periodically decline of Constantinople and maybe the sack of 1204?
Is this a re-upload or am I just having a strong case of dejavu?
It's a reupload.
The fall is not just one thing and not quickly BUT rather a cumulative effect. LOOK outside if you live in any major city (remember Rome is urban) TONIGHT there has not been so many barbarians
homeless, living rough shanty gatherings out there in my near 7 decades, here in LA anyways. Where are we in the fall of Rome currently?
Excellent comment! Yes, there is a lot of decay in American cities. Detroit is such an example. We can see how quickly cities can decay, if not kept in shape. Certainly a topic worth investigating in a separate video.
Detroit gained its current finish because of the reckless and myopic policy of the politicians. They increased local government and raised taxes to support it, which led to the mass exodus of businesses to nearby areas. This change entailed depopulation, and the city crumbled. Nowadays, the majority of its inhabitants are social care recipients.
I never realised myself this. But I do find it hard to believe that a city that loses its income, is sacked three times and loses 80% of its population will look the same. Even from a distance. Buildings need constant repair and if that is not feasible, they will quickly collapse, f.e. in a storm or earthquake.
Modern buildings, certainly, but many ancient buildings were built to last!
Hi, this is a valid point, but please take a look at the cited literature in the video.
This video's purpose is not to show in what a pristine condition Rome was in 476AD, but to show that is was in a better condition than most people believe, or is being propagated. Rome in 476 was still formidable, and many of the old monuments were still standing. Yes of course there was decay, of course buildings had already collapsed. But we have records, showing that many buildings were kept in repair even under the reign of Theoderich, after 500AD. For instance, the wine tax of Italy was used to keep the palace on the palatine hill in shape, and there are inscriptions of repairs of many buildings after the earthquake of 484 AD.
Which was the original date of release of the video? (Curiosity)
End of 2021
Given the flow of people from Rome to Constantinople in the late 4th and into the 5th centuries who I presume were mostly Latin speaking, was there a period when Constantinople was a truly bilingual city of Latin and Greek? Or did this Latin speaking group just abandon their language and adopt a koine Greek immediately?
Che grand peccato. I popoli che la saccheggiarono non capirono l'importanza di quella città millenaria. E Costantino che spostò la capitale da Roma. Hanno distrutto con le loro mani un impero favoloso e grandioso.
What do you think was the state of paganism in population of Rome in that year? I know it was oficialy banned and closed but you cannot unroot human ideas that quickly. I imagine late in the night people of Rome still carrying gifts to the old temples... but do we have some evidence of this? Thank you
@SudetenRider - Pili Hello Sir, and welcome. This is an excellent question, and you are completely right. It took a very long time and hundreds of years of anti Pagan laws and persecutions to extinguish the old Pagan traditions. I made a video on that topic, which you can watch here: ruclips.net/video/Y1P7DOAB8Cw/видео.html
But in that video, we critizise early Christianity a bit, so if you are a hardcore Christian, you might find it a bit offensive. However, I must repeat that it's early Christianity that we critizise, and not current Christianity. Those are two quite different things. I hope you will learn some interesting things in this video. Indeed, it was said that Anthemius was the last emperor, who was a secret Pagan, and tried to restore the old cults. But he was killed by Ricimer before he could do so.
@@Maiorianus_Sebastian Amazing, I didnt know you have video on this topic. Thank you for answer and Jupiter be with you 🙏
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Rip my old comment.
I love the video.
I would just like to point out that, although it is more and more common to hear bad English in media, -- for example:
"If you would have been in Rome in 535 a.d. , you would have seen all the buildings intact",
correct English would be:
"If you had been in Rome in 535 a.d., you would have seen all the buildings intact."
Respectfully,
S. Bryant, Montreal, Canada
The buildings all look the same but the north of Italy was already half German
The City of Rome did not consist of 150K beggars bc who would they be begging from?
I don't think that this is entirely true, many historians if not all of them were roman, and its was important to maintain the the status of the eternal city. Rome had 1 or even 2 milion people in 2nd century AD, it was the largest city on Earth, imagine lossing 70/80% of that population in 200 years, the city would look like a ghost city, many roads, buildings and houses would collapse, roman insulas were very fragile, it was very comon for a roman house in the city to fall, or destroyed by fires. Imagine 3 sacks with fire, pillage, plagues, etc, i belive 50/60% of the city was in ruins at 476 AD, at least the houses and older buildings, there was no money to repair, no manpower, the city had 100k of people in 476 AD if it had that many, i doubt it, my bets are more on 70/80k population, would you have stayed ina city that was sacked 3 times in less than 100 years? of course not, having your wife and daughters rapped or killed, you made slave or killed, or course not, Constantinople was roman and a safe place. The old temples were pagan, christians didn't cared about the old temples, they would have been in ruins or abandoned, the white marble would look like black cause of the fires, the roads and buildings would have plants, the public baths were ripped out of their statues and walls destroyed for the gold, i belive the city would be in preety bad shape in 476, very bad shape, of course the most used buildings like pantheon, circus coliseum, etc would be in a good shape, because they were used, and there was some care, but old pagan temples, 70% of the houses, gardens, mausoleums, etc those would be in ruins, and when i say ruin i don't mean like the roman forum in nowdays i mean abandoned, some parts destroyed for gold, burned. If Odoacer made a law to stop people of using stone of older buildings it was because it was a common practice and it was visible what was happening to the city. You don't go to a perfect well perserved building that is bing used and steal stones, you go to ruins and used the stones.
Hello. I base this video on archeological research, and findings presented in the books:
1. "History of the City of Rome in the Middle Ages" by Ferdinand Gregorovius amzn.to/3yOvjEd
2. "Rome: Profile of a City, 312-1308" by Richard Krautheimer amzn.to/3yyChgp
3. "Rome: An Urban History from Antiquity to the Present" by Rabun Taylor amzn.to/322ClsZ
So this is not just some stuff that I "believe". It's not about believing, one can believe in God or not, but this is about archeological evidence. And it suggests that the real decay and disaster for Rome started after the gothic wars. Also your number of 70/80k population in 476 is wrong, even in 500 AD, it can be reconstructed to have been at least 100k, possibly even 150k, by pork and grain supplied to the city, by the Praefectus Urbi.
I can agree though, that the outer lying parts of the city, must have already been in bad condition. Especially the not so frequented areas, because the city was very large. We shall explore that in future videos. This video here is more about the old grandiose monuments of Rome: The imperial Fora, the Amphitheatrum, the Basilicas, the old Pagan temples. They were in better shape that many people think, and that is what this video is about. We must explore the regular Domus, houses, etc, the outer lying parts of the city, in additional videos, as this topic is very complex. But many were still in use until the gothic wars.
I blame Jeff Bezos for the fall of Rome
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