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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025
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Thanks for keeping the high-quality reviews coming. Just gotta keep on movin'! Thanks for everything you do for the community and I'm sorry about folks giving you a hard time. Best wishes.
Yeah I know, and there are smaller youtubers trying to capitalize on it using dumb click-bait, acting like it's somehow the RUclips meta of the day. Dumb.
the problem is with all resonance plugins is those 'resonances' are usually the fundamental pitch of the instrument. and when you remove pitch you are left with noise!. in the hands of those without good ear training these things just make for bland, squashed, less dynamic, and noisier (ironically) music.
I honestly think 'smoothers' a waste of time in electronic music production. If there’s a resonance issue, then it's poor sound design.
@@willads2000 yes there's that too.
I've not needed this kind of plugin for any of my professional output for 15 years.
If there's a freak resonance (usually a bad vocal mic) then a dynamic EQ notch is just fine in 99% of cases.
This is where Soothe often wins for me, and it's a great example of why people are using it like dummies.
You really really need to understand what you're wanting to get rid of before you pull this stuff out. I always hear the specific problem before I pull out Soothe or SculpCraft to target it.
I cry when I hear about people using it on their master bus with the frequency settings flat. AAAAAAAAAA!
Soothe, by the way, does a better job at isolating actual resonances than most of these plugins. I feel like they did an exceptional job with their algorithm, and everyone else is doing the textbook approach.
The RESO plugin works nice, because its not that "automagic" but a surgically one.
I do totally get what you're saying here, but these are technological advancements that need to be embraced imo. There's always going to be clowns who overuse them, or use them in lieu of actual mixing skills, but they are just incredible at what they do when used correctly. Split EQ would be another one that comes to mind where overuse of it will sound tragic, but used sparingly, an amazing plug-in
I use reaper reafir_standalone, it's basically a FTT compressor that smoothes out everything. I use it on my 's' sounds because normal de-essers only reduce or compress the band where the problem is happening, which doesn't fix the issue. So I just set it on 128 of FTT size to make it smoothen sounds more efficiently at 1.5 ratio on compressor mode and I make it affect the high frequencies. My 's' now are blessing my ears with comfortable flat and gentle noise instead of destroying them with harsh peaks. I feel like 90% of the people using soothe are searching for exactly that, not knowing this free alternative.
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I absolutely agree, and there are a number of different solutions that are cheap or free like this, its all just down to using a spectral or multiband compressor, but generally spectral will sound better, i'd only go multiband if i needed minimal latency or couldnt afford the processing power.
@@MantasticHams indeed!
Can you tell me why it sounds smoother at 128FTT? I always used 4k and tried 128 after reading your post.. It sounds so much smoother now 😅 I always thought it would be more precise hence smoother at higher values.. thank you 🙏
@@Sorgenkind5000 Yeah! It does sound smoother. So, basically it works by taking chunks of the signal and then it treats them the way you want them to be treated. The more FTT setting you put, the longer it will calculate and the more precise the chunks will be (roughly put). The reason it smoothens the signal is that it compresses each chunk no matter the one next to it, unlike a band compressor. So basically each hertz is going to be processed independently, that's why when putting the compressor at threshold -150db to ratio 100:1 you get constant white noise no matter the input, instead of interrupted silence like other compressors would provide. However, at a lower FTT setting, it doesn't analyze the signal very well, and it generates artifacts because the chunks are wider and rough, so the flattening effects bleeds left and right on the frequencies above and below. If you analyze a sibilant sound, it is composed of an incredible amount of peaks, at various but consequent volume intervals. Using a high FTT will effectively compress everything above the threshold but nothing below, if however you set it to a lower FTT size the compressor will make its effect bleed on neighbor frequencies which will generate overall low-quality white noise on those aswell. Lowering the effect (ratio set between 1.5:1 and 1.8:1), you can lower the artificial sound that the low FTT generates, and then by lowering the threshold you affect them all gently. It is the sound we want, but too much is horrible. You don't even need to oversample, because if you made it as so it doesn't affect the voice but only the 's', then it will degrade the sound only when the 's' is pronounced and only on the voice track, so basically signal noise reflection is not even a problem. Basically, 's' are the only sound you'd rather have as completely recreated artificially, and when applied correctly and gently, this plugin makes those sounds sound really smooth.
Just remember, if you already own Ozone 10/11, you already have this in the form of the Stabilizer and/or Spectral Shaper modules.
and it's much better too ;)
I've been enjoying using it. If you want to make the vocals stand out, for example, you can put it on your music bus, then side chain the vocals, and it will duck the frequencies in the music to make room for the vocals.
I don't care how good the plugin is, there's no excuse for not offering a trial. Companies that don't offer a trial are just hoping to take advantage of the fact that many people will either forget or not bother to pursue the refund.
+1
It also makes the product look bad because apparently the devs don't trust that it will convince me to buy it.
And why I don't buy Glenn Fracker's "Spectre Audio" plugins.....The guy is out to lunch not offering a 14 day trial. Fail. The majority of plugins I've demo'd I ended up buying.
@@MoreMeRecordingAgreed, I enjoy Glenn’s content but every time he talks about his plugins I can’t help but scream at my monitor “GIVE ME A TRIAL AND I’LL CONSIDER BUYING IT, DAYUM”
its not that serious. Its a one time charge and if someone really cares enough to get a refund they will remember. Whats worse are the trial for 30 days and then you are sucked in a monthly reoccurring bill you can't get out. Im talking to you AVID
100%
If you click the solo button, you can hear exactly what it's removing. I paid $15 for this. I figured, if it's 50% as good as Soothe at 10% the price, it's money well spent.
So, "SOLO" is just wrongly named delta, or you are confused of what it does?
@@anteshell If you click on a band and then click the headphone icon on the band as well as the "solo" button on the right side of the plugin, you hear the "delta", a.k.a. what it is removing in that band.
@@shortscott86 Right. Thanks for the explanation.
@@anteshell No problem! It's a pretty cool plugin. The GUI takes some time to get familiar with, but it definitely does what it's designed to do. It can also be used for unmasking frequencies using a sidechain input. So, ducking bass guitar triggered by a kick drum or carving space for vocals in a dense guitar mix, for example. It's basically Soothe and Trackspacer in one plugin...for $15 (when I purchased it).
@@shortscott86 You are so good salesman that I have to actively convince myself that I actually don't need any more plugins.
Soothe2's sidechain function is excellent. People forget that it's not just a resonance suppressor. It's a very powerful plugin with a lot of customisation and that's what you're paying for.
Feel better?
They also have rent to own now and in my opinion it’s worth the price.
But is not resources friendly
$200 for ANY plugin is just way out there.
@@PassingTheDogyou can literally adjust it to any setting your device can handle live and crank up the quality and oversampling when bouncing.
I got the plugin and it's very useful for lot's of applications-mastering, de-essing vocals , sidechaining kik and bass etc so well worth the small price tag.
Hello, for me, without making any adjustments, I have a good result. The muddy part of my mix was instantly cleaned. I'm going to experiment further... Thanks for this news, and for your videos in general.
Thanks for supporting the channel!
Works as expected and is on budget....
Good man, he's back! 🔥
For mid/side you have to press the white point left of 'mid only'
I'm VERY pleased with how a touch of this plugin can really soften the harshness and balance things out. It's not very often the changes a plugin makes are immediately pleasant. One of the best recent purchases for me, an amateur mixer who wishes they could master. It is immensely helpful to get me to my goal.
Well, klick on the white circle left to the "MID ONLY" button to activate the function 😉
Just wanted to say I'm a long time follower and love your videos and you made me laugh and that means a lot. Keep going!
I've been enjoying using it. I like the side chain function, where you can duck the frequencies in one track to make room for the frequencies of another.
CAN YOU DO A VIDEO ON IT?
Make comparison of some resonance supressors including Speccraft by Three Body Tech
theres a free max for live preset that does the same for free named boba
Thank you so much, i thought there must be a m4l version but couldn’t find it
smoother vs. curves equator; any thoughts?
I wrote a comment but I own both and I think Waves Curve is the better option between these two in terms of value and usability. Beyond that, you're getting into the $100+ range so Soothe, Acustica Dove, etc.
TBT SpecCraft
This companies marketing is so dodgy, i was shocked when we came across it. I think a friend of mine was who sent you this because we felt you'd have some amusing things to say about it. Sorry for putting you through this, lol.
Told him too, also I hope he’s trying the new TB EQ Pro because it’s like Split Eq, FAB Filter and more combined for only 60$.
Thank you very much for the requested review. It isn't that expensive and it does something that I need for a lot less than Smoothe2!
You didn't hit the Solo button!!
It lets you hear what it's removing. It's more helpful than you think
It was $20 . We waste that same amount on bs might as well try it. Remeber they will have updates
I like the background music even more than the plug-in
Could I please ask that sometimes (if possible) can you look at (and obviously let us know) about the CPU usage? I'm currently working on a song and have Soothe2 on about 8 different busses. Whilst Soothe2 is pretty decent at usage, it does start to add up and I was thinking that for 20 bucks, this might help me right now if I could replace soothe with this as my PC is struggling a bit now I am closer to the end of mixing. :)
CPU is incredibly important over here, but reviewers all have beasts and don't care
@@ritzenhauf Oh I know mate. The struggle is real for most of us. haha. :) Even with beasts though, it would probably still be apparent if a new plugin used 4% when normally it's only 1% for their beast :)
@@CraigScottFrost Thanks Craig. I'm gonna have to start doing that VERY soon. Appreciate you. Cheers.
I run a basic M1 machine
@@Whiteseastudio good to know!
I am loving the track. Great guitar tone and nice solid bass line holding it all together.
Shooooot makes me wonder if the Chris Liepe plug-ins are any good. I just downloaded his free plug-in I haven't used it. Id also like to know if his paid plugins are any good
I really like this plugin. I use it for de harsh essentially. Great one but you’ve to use it very gently.
White Sea is back!
Good honest review as always 😏👍
I've had it a few months now. It basically works as advertised.........but, it's really east to mess things up. As with most of these resonance suppressor things, if you don't know what you're doing you can wreck your track!. I don't have Soothe2 so I can't A/B for quality. I tried an A/B with Smooth Operator and couldn't really hear a big difference in quality. I'm not crazy about his style of brand promotion, but at $15 I'm not losing my shirt if it sucks. It's not a "revolution", but it's not useless, imho.
Looks ok but Im sticking to Melda Spectral Dynamics.
It's crazy that that plugin is still the king of most spectral processing. I feel like it came out almost ten years ago or something. I still use it all the time.
The song you use to demo this is really cool !
What's the song called?
Darude - sandstorm
The track you're using is a great vibe!❤
Try it on some acoustic instruments, no processed synths. You'll hear a ton of artifacts on things like classical guitar, flute, brass. I uninstalled that shit: you get what you pay for and Soothe is that expensive because these guys definitely know what they have.
Yes, I didn't find this review helpful in detailing what the plug in is doing and whether it was doing a good job of it. Seemed more like 5 minutes of fiddling around with it and 5 minutes of general opinions on plugins and smoothing in general.
external sidechain compatibility would have been nice
FYI: The Smoother isn't compatible with Reaper's sidechain pin connector.
Can you and will you review the focusrite 4th gen?
i got me DSEQ3 by TBProAudio some time ago. it´s about 90 bucks and doesn´t look as sexy. but it has all the features a spectral dynamic processor could have, so it does everything you can think of. Smoother here looks a little too stripped down for me personally, but 20 bucks is a damn good price. and Soother is just too expensive for no reason imho.
I think I've heard this song before. It's "Sandstorm", by Darude. Right?
I think so
Temu plugin?
😜
I bought SpecCraft by Three-Body Technology and that does a fine job. This is their quote "next-generation dynamic resonance suppressor, spectrum compressor, and smart EQ"
Great video. 👍 - I think the new "Three Body Tech - SpaceCraft" is a similar, but possibly even better alternative to Soothe2.
Where to buy that... lewitt shirt?
I have it, it works great for me.
Id love a post talking about your acoustic cubes and what frequencies they tame. Thanks for your vids as always.
What's the name of the song?
Darude - Sandstorm
@@schnuus2006 great thanks, I love listening to new music.
The side chain offers a way to reduce masking. I like this for the lower price over soothe2.
I own a couple of his plugins and you start working with them just like him feeling its doing good stuff, but after being in the mix and adding couple of Strips or Compressors of him the whole session starts to get cpu spikes, and over all after 30 min they added up and you lost all your work cause your session won't play no more... Mac i9 64GB Ram....
session contained about 40 Tracks Midi and Audio
Hey Wytse, have you considered talking about how to register these plugins as part of your reviews/analysis? I ask because lately I've discovered that some of the larger companies that produce famous plugins are moving over to using proprietary schemes for unlocking/registering plugins. and it can really suck if they require internet connections every so many days etc.
Didn’t think about this, but I see the issues! I’ll see if I can incorporate this in future videos
I have problems with muddy LF, so this is relevant to me at this price point
I don't play the refund-games. I think it's fair if someone doesn't want me to try out their product first. That's common practice for many products. But I think it's also fair that I won't buy a plugin that I'm not convinced I need without having tested it.
"...coming up from someone who effed up a sponsorship" is the very reason I gave this video a thumbs up.
Thumbs down your thumbs down..
for 20, I decided to give it a whirl, we'll see. :)
Edit: I like it so far, it does smooth out some bad areas like boominess, harshness, mud. Will I be using it after 30 days, time will tell, if I find enough use cases for this.
@whiteseastudios I'm looking to upgrade from a Clarett+ audio interface to an RME ufx, in your opinion how much better will my AD/DA conversión be? Will it be nominal? Or substantial? And how to know what to look for in upgraded conversions? I'm talking transparent conversion
Can you please review the rest of his plugins?
Mid and Side needs to have setting change when on each for there to be a difference when clicking either... it's poorly labelled... I think clicking the selected one again brings it back out of mid side but that is a guess
SO DO YOU PLACE THIS ON MASTER OR A SUB MASTER AUX?
I love your Plögin reviews!
höhöhö!
Great to see WSA still running smooth (pun) now. After all that Temu business 😉
This might be a plug in I can actually use - I am a simple fool - great review
Can we expect a review of Ik Multimedia speakers?
What’s the name of the demo track?
This seems to be a pretty good plugin.... for the price can't beat it.
Crazy for me to say but Waves Curve is better than the Smoother (I own both). While not a fan of Waves WUP, Curves is a usable and affordable option. Acustica's Dove is still my main go-to resonant compressor but Waves Curve is quick to dial in and has some nice options.
ok thank you!....just saw this comment right now....i already have the smoother in the cart but i don't want more then one plugin doing the same thing, so i guess i save the 20bucks
@@snubdawg1386 I'm not a huge fan of the interface on Smoother.
@@marksaxon_plays last question, what about cpu usage on dove vs. curves vs. smoother?
@@snubdawg1386 Acustica's plugins are known for needing more CPU (trade off for higher quality). You should demo Curves if CPU usage is a concern. Plus Acustica's GUI can be a bit complicated if you are not familiar their layouts.
It makes it quieter.
For £20 it's better to be something you return rather than get the 30 day trail and it cost more for that security system... the 30 day trail is not as simple and cheap as you think... you need lots of hacking blocking security systems
Although... the work to do a refunding process would sure cost more thinking about it?
Get that help man! Do not fall to the industry.
I think these types of plugins are generally just spectral compressors with a fancy UI ... with a curve that is limited to the way the UI allows them to be manipulated... You are right , there is nothing new under the sun... just repackaging previous ideas , im sure not everyone agrees with that and thats cool too... cheers
Unrelated but would love to see a dedicated video about EQ and AutoGain, and when NOT to use it. Would be fascinating
Great vid as always!
Whats the name of this band/song?
Every time I see a Phil Speiser plugin ad it infuriates me. Doesn't even matter how good it ACTUALLY is.
30 day refund and no trial? instant no. thanks
Hilarious intro 😂
For those who haven't understood that they all use the same algos...
he probably just rebadged the open source one
cool demo
Phil Speiser. For a minute there, I thought it said Phil Spector.
EVERY OTHER PLUG IN COMPANY IS DOING THIS!
hihi
The best way of making money from plugins is not to avoid the users abusing the test version, by not providing one but rather make a useful VST, thats not some features of your DAW with some colorful buttons in an unresizable plugin window. Oh, im sorry, i just noticed that it must read: a reimagined plugin window.
I get nonstop ads for this plugin 🤣
I've got a couple of PS plugins including this one which I'm using. Have to say as a lifetime Software Dev myself I was quite surprised at his claim to have taught himself programming and produced so many plugins in such a short time. That and the style of the marketing did make me feel a little suspicous, but so far the results are pretty good and one can't quibble about the price.There are a few niggly design issues and room for improvement, so now I'm just hoping he can use his success to continually improve the plugins which have already been released, then I will become a true fan.
He has a team, it is bs indeed. He doesn't know DSP workflows, just marketing. Some of his plugins are decent at best, but are indeed cheap. 5/10 on all Phil's products, not the worse, but nothing game changer.
He's back lol
One of the first plugins I bought before your review. And I'm holding my breath waiting for you to trash it. Yay £15 well spent 😅
This just seems like a multiband compressor. It's not the same as Soothe2.
I got the plugin, didn’t like it, returned it with no significant hassle, though they try to play the whole “are you sure?! Are you really sure” game… And that’s usually enough to turn me off a company.
The plugin seemed okay at first but I noted some artefacts in the upper midrange that messed with my guitars and sounded almost like some destructive editing. A weird phasey issue, hard to describe.
Turn this or that on/off -- I really don't hear any difference.
Can you review ToneBoosters new EQ Pro? It combines Pro-Q3 and Split EQ and Poximity EQ all in one. And it is basically free to use for everyone.
This
How is it free?
@@theaustindude The demo has unlimited time and the only locked feature is that you can't save your own presets in the plugin. However, If you close and save your daw project, your settings in eq pro will be saved. The other thing is that you will always have "this is a demo would you like to buy?" window pop up when you open the plugin and the continue demo button to close that window changes position sometimes. It is totally usable without buying it just like all Tonebooster plugins.
Also 'well transfer youre license to someone else' .. sounds fishy. I dont care what you do with that license when i refund it....
well maybe don't even look at the plugin when you're twiddling as well as not reading the manual then it won't be too simple for you
Sounded decent not bad not bad
Underwhelmed... and no trial? Pfff...
No demo is a non-starter for me.
Day 2. Of asking you to review the Kit Plugins BB N105
I love the N105 and I use it on every mix if you want that Neve preamp sound. The saturation is very nice and smooth along with the gain compensation. Pretty light on CPU and the EQ options are standard Neve. Another great option are the Noise Ash "Need" collection of plugins. I use the 31102 strip & preamp a lot and they have a preamp only collection with the 73/81/84 that I use a bit here and there.
1:47 to 1m55s 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm not a fan of phil speiser's plugins, i think it's mostly the UI i'm not a fan of but i haven't liked his design philosophy in previous plugins he has released. He focused a lot on automation previously in a way that doesn't really help you learn how to use the plugins. All that being said if i was going to get one of his plugins i would probably get this one but there are quite a few other options for resonance suppressors now
Interesting
1:17 yea and you’re already on thin ice pal
Oh hey look who it is. Did Phil Speiser pay you less than Temu did? LOL
They both didn’t pay anything… 🙄
Who the f is Phil Speiser and why he writes his name like a toddler?
The real question is: how many copies of the plugin he needs to sell to buy himself a pair of socks?
@@runglerhz5590 03:04 LOL!