It's great for long range maps. Suffers a bit with poor turret traverse and gun handling but it's always my first spawn in maps like big Poland or eastern Europe. The Optics are amazing, especially with commander thermals.
Its armor still is not as reliable especially the hull doesnt do anything. And 9.3 gets uptiered to 10.0 and 10.3 way more often than downtiered, so nothing rly changed except that it doesnt face Leopard 2 Premium Spam anymore^^
@@SpriGgEx I've noticed significantly more favourable matchmaking personally. Prior to the changes I've maybe played 2 or 3 full downtiers at 9.3 in the last 6 months. I was playing a bunch just to unlock the new green camo for the Olifant this past week and I've probably seen at least a dozen or so full downtiers. The armor is definitely not good, and it's absolutely enormous, it dwarfs most MBTs I can think of because it's so bloody tall, but if played to it's strengths, the gun and optics, it's amazing. For everything else I've got the Khalid. They make a dope combo.
@@BambeH It still makes no damn sense why you can see through Engine Smoke with Thermals like it wasnt even there but normal smoke is like looking at a wall. Also Engine Smoke should be warmer so it should irritate Thermals by that already.
I originally picked italy as the first tech tree i wanter to max out. Still havent done that but my friends thought i was crazy/loved suffering . alot of the tree is hard, but it has homebrew gems or certain imported gems that really make it shine
@@Pt_Lacky because the VBC is cancer. Even without the APDSFS unllocked i could make alot of trouble on the Battlefield and it has Gen 2 Thermals as well maybe even Gen 3. In Sim it fought against T54s oO It only had Problems facing russian MBTs because of the almost everywhere 80mm min Armor. The VCC sucks, against Tanks and Planes it sucks against both. The APDSFS is too small to do real damage but the fire rate and Ammo Storage doesnt make up for that. No Clue why that thing moved up never saw anyone even me performing well with it.
It's hit and miss, it can be an absolute little ratbeast but there's also times where you dump half your rounds into something that just refuses to die - or they bounce - or they ricochet. It has thermals, I guess that may have been a reason to bring it up, but... it's sort of borderline for 9.3, it was better at 9.0.
The MTCA (premium version) also has no thermals and that went from 9.0 to 9.3 - although I guess they did give it DM33 - because they pulled it up, mind you. Would've been nice if they'd just left it well enough alone, wouldn't have minded a Mk.2 and MTCA lineup.
@@SpriGgEx It's a pretty modern tank for it's time. It's what let the americans make the abrams. It also has a pretty awesome design, a stabilized secondary gun and is pretty fast
@@calatonic The Gun is still the downside of that Tank having one of the weakest MBT Guns that fires APDSFS and by far the weakest at its BR. But its armor lately has been more trolly on the turret than it used to be.
Sadly you forgot 2 things: 1. The 9.0 Lineup for Italy is ruined. Thers like no Tank Backup left to take with you that is usable at 9,0 anymore. Useless. 2. It has a Good Heli with the A.109EOA-2 at 8.7 thats better than what the german Lineup can offer. A bit more Range and Pennetration, faster ATGMS and especially way better Optics. But they got nerfed recently. Now they are down to 10x. Not sure when they changed but they were better than 10x when i regulary used it. The G91Y is ok it has the Big Nords but not CCIP for the rest of the Weapons and it compresses alot in High Speed Dive Maneuvers, that causes either crash or prevents you from dodging any anti air fire.
You should Make it a Series. 9.0 Tanks in comparison maybe with proper Backup Tanks of 9.0 and 8.7 for Example: Japan Typ74s worse Handling but better APDSFS and Hydraulic Suspension US XM803 and Merkava MK1. Also US has a rly strong 9.0 Lineup. I added the F3H-2 Demon as a Fighter now because of up to 5 Bombs + AIM9Bs Germany has the Techtree TAM and the Class3(P) USSR has T62M-1 Object279 & BMP-3, also some T55s for backup. Britain has Chieftain MK10 and the Vickers MK.11 Japan has the Type 89 Type 87 RCV and the Type 74s China has tons of 9.0s but i dont have China so i dont rly know what to go for here^^ France is still unplayable between 8.0 and 9.7. Sweden has at least good 8.7s and 9.3s Israel issnt doing well at 9.0 either but at least has a number of OK 8.7s
Been smashing some research into this tank over the last day and a half with my 8.0 line up just need to spade my shilka in there and got about 20k to go to get this should get it pretty easily after work today then I gota finish my Israeli tow launcher the giraf get those ready for the anniversary sales
It's still super squishy but if you get into a good spot (read: rat it up to the extreme) it's a murder machine. I've had immense amounts of fun with it in the past few days :D
Get gud guys.
Thank you dude! :D
Now that 9.0 to 10.0 is more decompressed, could you give the Olifant Mk.2 a go? It's such a cool tank! Amazing gun/round AND thermals too
It's great for long range maps. Suffers a bit with poor turret traverse and gun handling but it's always my first spawn in maps like big Poland or eastern Europe. The Optics are amazing, especially with commander thermals.
Its armor still is not as reliable especially the hull doesnt do anything. And 9.3 gets uptiered to 10.0 and 10.3 way more often than downtiered, so nothing rly changed except that it doesnt face Leopard 2 Premium Spam anymore^^
@@SpriGgEx I've noticed significantly more favourable matchmaking personally. Prior to the changes I've maybe played 2 or 3 full downtiers at 9.3 in the last 6 months. I was playing a bunch just to unlock the new green camo for the Olifant this past week and I've probably seen at least a dozen or so full downtiers.
The armor is definitely not good, and it's absolutely enormous, it dwarfs most MBTs I can think of because it's so bloody tall, but if played to it's strengths, the gun and optics, it's amazing.
For everything else I've got the Khalid. They make a dope combo.
It also has access to engine smoke, which pairs nicely with the gen 2 thermals. A lot of people are caught off guard by this mechanic at 9.3
@@BambeH
It still makes no damn sense why you can see through Engine Smoke with Thermals like it wasnt even there but normal smoke is like looking at a wall.
Also Engine Smoke should be warmer so it should irritate Thermals by that already.
I originally picked italy as the first tech tree i wanter to max out. Still havent done that but my friends thought i was crazy/loved suffering . alot of the tree is hard, but it has homebrew gems or certain imported gems that really make it shine
I think the Italian tree is excellent!
It's biggest issues were a lack of lineups pre hungary. It's still got that a bit but waaaaay less so.
After most of BR 10.x vehicle added 0.3 br, the 9.x vehicle finally had got some love, South Africa and FR 9.3/9.7 is playable right now.
25:35 Did not know you need such expertise to make a war thunder map
It's a process
Play the OF-40 MTCA it’s absolutely disgusting with dm33 now
Already was disgusting at 9.0 with 23 lmao, moving it up AND buffing it when it already was too strong at 9.0 is just comical lmao
@@Entrailraider
But 9.3 doesnt have such a forgiving Matchmaking, so its actually worse^^
@@SpriGgEx blud forgot everything got moved up
What I don't understand is why did the VCC 80/60 move up, it is good but 9.3 good idk
VBC went up to 9.3 aswell for some reason.
@Pt_Lacky yet the real problem doers haven't moved up a even the slightest
@@Pt_Lacky
because the VBC is cancer. Even without the APDSFS unllocked i could make alot of trouble on the Battlefield and it has Gen 2 Thermals as well maybe even Gen 3. In Sim it fought against T54s oO
It only had Problems facing russian MBTs because of the almost everywhere 80mm min Armor.
The VCC sucks, against Tanks and Planes it sucks against both. The APDSFS is too small to do real damage but the fire rate and Ammo Storage doesnt make up for that.
No Clue why that thing moved up never saw anyone even me performing well with it.
Yeah not much reason for that change
It's hit and miss, it can be an absolute little ratbeast but there's also times where you dump half your rounds into something that just refuses to die - or they bounce - or they ricochet. It has thermals, I guess that may have been a reason to bring it up, but... it's sort of borderline for 9.3, it was better at 9.0.
10:11 ricochet? Gotta love it
At first I thought it was a t62, which I might have understood. But an spaa? Flabbergasted
This happens when you order ammo from Temu
It’s missing thermals, which is why it didn’t go up.
Didn't stop other tanks from going up.
@@arminarminson8583 the other tank (the premium version) got DM33, and the tanks that went up were mainly 10.0 and higher
The MTCA (premium version) also has no thermals and that went from 9.0 to 9.3 - although I guess they did give it DM33 - because they pulled it up, mind you. Would've been nice if they'd just left it well enough alone, wouldn't have minded a Mk.2 and MTCA lineup.
Wild that this 9.0 mbt has better gun handling than a lot of top tier mbts.
"take risks win prizes"-every gambler ever
Harry Spotter is a Gym Bro
We need some MBT 70 gameplay
This tank is way better than
Played it recently! :)
no you dont. KPZ70 at least as a short reload. Nothing Speaks for the MBT70. It has a shitty shell and sees mostly uptiers.
@@SpriGgEx It's a pretty modern tank for it's time. It's what let the americans make the abrams. It also has a pretty awesome design, a stabilized secondary gun and is pretty fast
@@calatonic
The Gun is still the downside of that Tank having one of the weakest MBT Guns that fires APDSFS and by far the weakest at its BR.
But its armor lately has been more trolly on the turret than it used to be.
used to main italy but got tired of the glass vehicles, may go back.
The amx 40 got even stronger with the br changes now that we want something better than the OF
turny forgot 50 cals exist in that first intro clip, JUST LIKE A SHERMAN PLAYER
And you forget that firing 50cals across the map is like a big red "BLAST ME" beacon over your head ;)
@@TurnyPlays lol yea that too, still the amount of times I should've died in open top derps is immense
Sadly you forgot 2 things:
1. The 9.0 Lineup for Italy is ruined. Thers like no Tank Backup left to take with you that is usable at 9,0 anymore. Useless.
2. It has a Good Heli with the A.109EOA-2 at 8.7 thats better than what the german Lineup can offer. A bit more Range and Pennetration, faster ATGMS and especially way better Optics. But they got nerfed recently. Now they are down to 10x. Not sure when they changed but they were better than 10x when i regulary used it.
The G91Y is ok it has the Big Nords but not CCIP for the rest of the Weapons and it compresses alot in High Speed Dive Maneuvers, that causes either crash or prevents you from dodging any anti air fire.
You should Make it a Series. 9.0 Tanks in comparison maybe with proper Backup Tanks of 9.0 and 8.7
for Example:
Japan Typ74s worse Handling but better APDSFS and Hydraulic Suspension
US XM803 and Merkava MK1. Also US has a rly strong 9.0 Lineup. I added the F3H-2 Demon as a Fighter now because of up to 5 Bombs + AIM9Bs
Germany has the Techtree TAM and the Class3(P)
USSR has T62M-1 Object279 & BMP-3, also some T55s for backup.
Britain has Chieftain MK10 and the Vickers MK.11
Japan has the Type 89 Type 87 RCV and the Type 74s
China has tons of 9.0s but i dont have China so i dont rly know what to go for here^^
France is still unplayable between 8.0 and 9.7.
Sweden has at least good 8.7s and 9.3s
Israel issnt doing well at 9.0 either but at least has a number of OK 8.7s
Yes I meant to include the fact it has no line-up now, but I forgot! :)
I thought you might be playing this given that i could see you playing Italy
Been smashing some research into this tank over the last day and a half with my 8.0 line up just need to spade my shilka in there and got about 20k to go to get this should get it pretty easily after work today then I gota finish my Israeli tow launcher the giraf get those ready for the anniversary sales
Ask for 2s38 move up to 10.3 or 10.7
Snail did move it up but more than that
love your vids lil cuh
Wasn't it a bear they gave laxation pills and then let him shit on a blanc map?
I love that Turny wasn’t even fazed by the “ricochet” off the ZSU 37 2
I'm used to War Thunder treating me this way 😪
@TurnyPlays It brings a whole new meaning to "no armour is best armour".
I wonder how the VFM5 performs now
Need to spade it!
It's still super squishy but if you get into a good spot (read: rat it up to the extreme) it's a murder machine. I've had immense amounts of fun with it in the past few days :D
What are you saying!? Turny if you weren't rambling we'd think it's time to get you fitted for grippy socks.
Day 2 of asking Turny to show us his graphics settings
CARRO ARMATO
Besalio corpito!!
Carro Armato!
The cooler leo a1a1
Italy gets called bad constantly, actually has the most unique and underrated tanks in game
@@naughtyewok tbh, until 8.0, all of the tanks are bad, mid or copy pasta, breda, R3s and one TD at 4.7 are fun but thats it.
Dear Turny please accept my sl, kind regards the Bad guys...
Hey
Day 301 of asking for some juicy black prince gameplay 👾
Too bad its 9.3
Italian crew voices are cracked, love them.
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This tank is wayyyy too good rn
Get gud guys.