Even if they have the same tires the Tacoma isn't going to keep up with the Jeep! Jeep in off road beats anything that the Tacoma has to offer. Fyi: current 2020 Toyota tacoma trd pro owner, previously owned 2017 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon unlimited.
So glad to see a channel that truly spends time showing what these trucks can do as opposed to just talking about it!! Keep up the great work, looking forward to your channel growing! I’m a Jeep fan but both great trucks depending on your needs.
Jeeps have that too. They just don't have a fancy switch for it. It's been part of Jeeps for years, in 4 low you could always start in in gear without clutch.
I’d take the tacoma trd pro anyday over any other truck. Toyota is always on point with their trd pro colors. This lunar rock doesn’t disappoint and looks even better in person. Throw some falken wildpeaks or ko2s or km3s on the tacoma and it’s an amazing rig. Thank you for actually doing some off roading unlike TFL’s recent videos where they do battles in a parking lot just talking about the features of each truck and on paper.
TFL’s kind of a joke (with exception of Tommy) when it comes to testing and reviewing vehicles. Too much feelings/bias involved and not enough science and actual testing. TK is my #1 go-to for real reviews.
@@driveshift I've always felt this way. They do good videos, like the Ikes and the off road videos, but unless Prospector Pete aka Mr. Truck is there there is lack of in depth knowledge.
TFL went downhill, I unsubscribed to their channels, waste of time. Truck King is great! I found a few other good truck/ off-roading channels to replace TFL entirely.
Tacoma is terrible drivetrain wise. Most inconsistent shifting in any vehicle ever. Gladiator, ZR2, Ranger kill the Tacoma. And I’ve been a Tacoma fan forever.
The fact that these trucks were both manual transmissions sold it for me. I miss having my manual transmission Ford ranger and I am totally getting a taco with manual. My only thing is the sport has six speed manual access cab and standard size bed, which I prefer. But it doesn’t have locking rear diffs. I wish you could have it all but Toyota punishes you for having a manual transmission
Great comparison! Happy to see a Canadian reviewer testing these trucks. Especially as a lot of your Ontario forest tracks are similar to the forest tracks we have over here in Saskatchewan that I enjoy wheeling in! Makes the truck test results much more “real world” than the typical rock crawling testing most reviewers tend to focus on. Keep it up! And Merry Christmas!
Great review! It's clear that a NEW Gladiator has some advantages over the Taco. Having owned both Toyotas and Jeeps I would be remiss to point out that the Toyotas are so much more reliable. You may sacrifice a little in terms of tech and the most powerful powertrain but if trail riding is really your thing, no doubt you'll feel more confident with the Toyota durability not to mention LONGEVITY!
Jeeps have been fairly reliable for a number of years now and the 3.6L Pentastar has almost no reliability issues. It’s also the best selling V6 in Canada. Lots of people complain about the reliability of Jeeps but they haven’t been major reliability issues for a pretty long time.
@@blackstratus2664 comparing Jeep's reliability to Toyota's is like comparing the Clippers Body of work to the Lakers. I have a WK2 GC Trailhawk in the garage right now and while I really enjoy it, it doesn't compare with my 2010 4Runner or 03 Tundra on the reliability scale.
@@seamuspdolan there are many Jeeps out there with over 300k on them with next to no issues, and there are many new Toyota’s with huge reliability issues. Older Toyota’s were great, newer ones not as good. Neither is bad, its just a lot of people complain about Jeep reliability and its not a concern anymore, and hasn’t been for quite some time now.
@@seamuspdolan ive owned 5 Wranglers since 1996 and have never had any major issues other than the dumb shit I did myself and tried to say “it just broke”. None of my other Jeep owning friends have any major problems either.
Just received my 2021 taco trd pro on Christmas eve and I love it . I'm a camper weekend warrior that was using a 07 Fj on toytec 3"lift 35 tires. This Taco will be my next project
I have a Gladiator Rubicon with a Manual, and honestly its a great truck. While significantly more expensive than the taco you can see why. Taco is a great truck it just feels super dated when you inside one. Seems like its is a 10-15 year old truck inside and one of the main reasons I didn’t go with it.
What are you talking about, I rented a jeep for a whole week on my Hawaii vacation and it was awful. The road noise was annoying, my family hated the back seat they said the felt worst than the seats in the Suttle bus at the airport, the poor insulation make the jeep feel cheap everytime you close the doors. The inside is not smaller than the tacoma but it feels claustrophobic in there. On the Driving side it felt awful in the hwy, any drive longer than an hour was a pain. I rented the jeep trying to convince the wife to trade in our 2018 tacoma off road and I'm so happy I did cause after the 1 day honeymoon fase I hated that piece of shit
So I bought the Mojave based partly, on this video, and I love it! Just came back from Moab, and the Mojave is impressive even in stock form, Great job TK, love your channel,
On a Jeep, the Clutch Start Cancel feature was basically removing a fuse. Then you can start it in gear and it will pull you up the hill. Did it in my TJ and LJ.
Just pointing out the Jeeps tires were factory installed, the Taco's were aftermarket. If you want to make aftermarket changes they should be the same, otherwise keep'em stock for the comparison.
And this test was a little biased in my opinion, the Tacoma had two disadvantages and even though she went over all the obstacles easy, imagine using bigger better tyres which not only will give it better traction but also higher clearance
If Toyota had a seating position like the JK / JL / JT, I would have had one years ago with an aftermarket front bumper and winch. I do not like sitting on the floor. Great video. I was just up in the snow on the trails last week, but not as watery as your trails.
Its the one thing that has kept me from getting the tacoma trd pro time and time again. The seating position, as well as rear seat leg room. I am only 6' tall but in my driving position no one can sit behind me. It sucks because I absolutely love how the tacoma looks.
@Chonch You driving position should be so that your arms are bent at 90°. If you are sliding your seat back to the point that your arm are straight or near straight you are too far back. I'm 6'1" and have no problem with the Taco. I own a Wrangler but drove Tacos in the military. In every driving school both on and offroad this is what's taught.
@@juanticimo Im 6' and got seat jackers which raise the seat like 1.5" and it makes a hell of a difference in seating feel. It's like a new vehicle. I even did it on the passenger side and can now mount a compressor and CB under the seats with room to spare.
Start, clutch, cancel feature is nice. Thanks for the tip! I have the automatic '21 Pro Lunar Rock, but it's so nice to know what manual has which I originally wanted. Love your video. Very informative! Tacoma rock!
Would have loved to see that Tacoma on the same tires but overall great to see the differences and you pointed out the important ones. How does each compare on the highway with and without towing would be a great video!
Why is it that Toyota drivers are especially inept and timid? And what makes Toyota so special that bad drivers are drawn to its car like moth into open flames? My theory is that Toyota (and Lexus) drivers are humor-less drones who, following Darwin's theory, have self-selected into driving the very soul-sucking cars that defines their personality.
@@jakedank2746 Let me break it down to you: Over 15 years, I was doing automotive mechanical investigations averaging about 2,000/year. 1-2 of them were Toyotas, and usually due to abuse or lack of maintenance. The rest - all kinds of jeeps. Hope it helps.
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk I considered that actually, so I drove one. I just wasn’t impressed, I liked it but didn’t love it. It was so long and without a lift & bigger tires would get hung up on everything.
Just bought a Gladiator Rubicon with a manual. It was $4000 off because…manual! I love it. Don’t mind rowing the gears myself. I feel more control of the truck and the clutch is fairly light.
I have owned both Jeep and Toyota. If I lived in a rural area where 90% of my driving was in rugged conditions, the Jeep would be a good call. Or if it was a 2nd vehicle. But day in day out driving in all conditions including offroad, the TRD Pro is awesome and more practical. Throw a set of more aggressive set of tires, and it damn near the perfect vehicle...for me.
I’m failing to understand here. You admit the Jeep is better off road then follow up by saying the Tacoma is better off-road? I mean the Jeep Wrangler is a purpose built truck. You can tow with a tacoma, you can off road a tacoma, but it’s pretty subpar in both those aspects.
TRD for sure. Having purchased a 2007 Taco new in 07, the thing has never let me down. Others have spoken about the reliability of the Toyota, and I will personally attest to this. Nice review, and yes the Gladiator looks fun too! Merry Christmas to all! Wished I had a 2020 TRD Pro Under the tree this year 😂
It's all fun and games until you need the frame replaced. At least they addressed that issue. Just wish they would fully update the Toyota more. Rear drum brakes and an old motor andtyranny, seriously 😳.
I own a 4Runner, Sequoia, and a 1997 4.0 Wrangler. They’re all great in their own ways. But a Gladiator just seems like the coolest vehicle you can buy. I want one. Of course in a manual.
I would definitely buy the Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro, cause the Jeep would be breaking down and giving me a lot of problems, I used to own a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4, bought it brand new, baby it and gave me so many problems that it even started leaking oil at 22k miles, this Jeep in the video has the same engine. Ended up trading it in for a 2021 Toyota 4Runner Limited Night Shade Edition, and I also own a 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 fully equipped, I love them a lot!!!!!.
That's your fault, the 3.6 V6 is not designed for the full size SUV, FCA only puts them in base units for a reason, it's slow and stressed to all hell pulling that thing around, hence why the V8s are mid trim and up. You should like the kind of person who bought a Jeep commander back in the day with a 3.7 and complained when It died at 50,000 miles because it overheated at every speed because the engine was not big enough for the weight.
@@abjeepify guess you are just ignoring that era when Tacoma frames would bend 45 degrees when picked up by a lift, almost as if a severe design flaw caused rust on the inside of the frame
Better yet, get a ZR2 and have over $25k in your pocket. It doesn't need tire or suspension upgrades because it has everything on it already. No brainer
Hey, bud, you should be careful with the Toyota garbage: www.google.co.cr/search?hl=es&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=767&ei=n5MtXK--EMmv5wLonLKIBA&q=toyota+rust+recall&oq=To&gs_l=img.1.0.35i39j0l9.5213.5831..9433...0.0..0.118.231.0j2......1....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.ZzRqwaNRQec Toyota reliable? hahaha. Greetings from Costa Rica.
In regards to people crabbing on reliability of the Jeep...I had a 2012 wrangler unlimited Sahara for 7 years. Only significant issue, out of warranty, was with seat cover wear. Even when in warranty, no serious issues.
Yeah. I am with you. I have had my current TJ since 2005. My water pump went out, that is it. And that was probably my fault as it was sitting a lot at the time and I think the seal dried up.
The pentastar is a super stout motor! Chrysler issues as of lat are electronics, and they didn't put much into the gladiator... with the tougher suspension and axles it should be one of the toughest light duty trucks on the market
I agree with you, I had many mopars including a 2021 Gladiator Mojave and enjoying all of them. The gladiator I've modified with winch and an aftermarket front bumper. That is what is good about a Jeep, have it your way.
@@NickCasciani I’ve seen mostly older Jeeps...heavy modifications definitely not daily drivers. Broken u-joints, axle shafts, blown tires.... hmm what else, ran into newer Jeeps with over heating problems and one that stalled and couldn’t be started again..Jeeps are POS. I would never buy one ..
Can confirm. I owned a 00 jeep for many years, constantly working on it and I didn't go wheelin often. It was my daily driver. I don't know maybe I got a lemon. I sat in a 2020 taco and I didn't fit in it because I'm 6' 3". I went back to my roots and bought a 93 toyota truck i stumbled upon and I dig it the most.
Your right about the jeep owner breaking down and needing something, that WAS me after I bought my Tacoma now I stop to help the jeep owners , what a difference it is owning a Tacoma and everything else ....
There’s literally a Facebook group called “Jeep Gladiator Problems” , couldn’t find anything similar for the Tacoma even though the 3rd Gen hasn’t been as reliable as the 2nd gen. 😂
One point that you neglected to mention.... and that's the "reliability" of each. I own a Jeep Wrangler and if I'd do it again, I'd buy a Tacoma. Why? Because Toyota is far more reliable. I've had so many fixes on my Jeep, I absolutely regret buy one.
Agreed. I own a couple Jeep Wranglers and Tacoma. I prefer the TJ because I can work on it easier than the JL. The JL has so many problems with engine and electrical. While my Tacoma is about to hit 100k and only maintenance I have done is fluids, brakes, and tires. This April I will sell the JL. Don't think I will invest in a new Jeep anytime soon. I will be interested in the new Gen 4 Tacoma that comes out in a couple years. I wouldn't get the Pro, because for the money you can better upgrade suspension and tires yourself for the money. The only thing I love about the pro's is the paint options.
I bought the underdog pro4x frontier instead it's been amazingly reliable but between the two hands down the taco. Especially since it would be my daily drive/family hauler, etc.. not just my offroad rig
Looking at a 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro with the manual transmission. Currently have a 2020 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro. Hate the automatic transmission. Manual is a dream to drive. Drove a manual Mojave...transmission shifted great. Power just wasn't there. Had to really run it up in the rpm band to get it moving. Just wasn't impressed. The rest of the Gladiator was really great though. Toyota is winning out. Reliability is also there in the Toyota. And I'm a Jeep person. Loved the videos though. Great job.
I live in Europe and can get a g350 diesel, but I'm looking forward to import a US made pickup. Raptor vs TRD pro Tacoma, what would You choose and why? BTW does the Tacoma have 2 or 3 lockers?
I would go with Taco for two things. I also thing the tires made a huge diff. Should have the same tires. Good video ! 1- $10k cheaper 2- reliable (I had Jeeps and have had a fair share of reliability issue although they are getting better )
@@jonathanseitz8644 funny thing about that, i bought a jl sport s in 2018, been wheeling it for 3 1/3 years and daily driving it, had 0 problems so far. My buddy bought a tacoma in march boasting that it would outlast my wrangler this and that toyota reliability blah blah.... well his tacoma lasted until august and the transmission melted the first three gears together. mind you it never went off road, never towed a thing it broke down going 35 on a fresh paved road. toyota and jeep are not the same as they were half a century ago. times have changed
@@SanctumOfDreams you are right they arnt the same as a century ago i acually own both i have a 2017 CHEROKEE trail hawk which is amazing off road as well and a 2002 tundra my tundra has 200000 + and still runs like the day i bought it amazing truck my cherokee has 25000 miles on it and has had the whole rear diff replaced driver side rear wheel bearing engine ticks like a 1942 sherman tank and i always use full synthetic oil almost feel like it may have been a lemon but i hear you i work for honda manufacturing and our cars are junk nothing like the cars we used to build times are changing
Steve you have way too much fun. I had a TRD SPORT Tacoma....I think Toyota makes a superior product to everyone. Toyota should put Duratracs on their off roaders or some equivalent tire. I have Duratracs on my Tundra for the winter and my spring trip to camp. My camp has roads much like what you test your trucks in. Man, you have way too much fun and Merry Christmas.
If I don't have a 2021 Tacoma 4x4 offroad fully loaded I would be craving for one so badly. Thanks to my wife for early Christmas present. Very nice review and I love all your videos.
Both trucks looked like they did pretty well. The Jeep Gladiator Rubicon gets all the press it seems but the Mojave is the one to get. It has a lot of built up features.
Mojave is nice, but I'd still choose the gladiator rubicon with the front locker and diesel, Mojave didn't come in diesel/front locker. Got my rubicon about a year and few months and already put 17k miles on it with no issues whatsoever. But the TRD is nice too, just not for me I guess, sold it before I got the gladiator
@victorradu3986 all about what you'll be doing with it, I spend much more time going fast on terrible roads and going fast offroad than I do "crawling" being as I'd need to travel to find anywhere to do that. So for me the mojave makes more sense and is actually the smarter choice. Had mine for almost a month and a love it
With a Rubicon gladiator, you get a four to one transfer case which makes the gearing so much lower which is another example of why you should’ve had a Rubicon instead of a Mojave not to mention the disconnecting, swaybar and front and rear lockers
I know the Jeep JK have a clutch start bypass automatically whenever in 4 Lo, I think the Gladiator does too. Also if you can't start your vehicle in 4 Lo without rolling back you need to learn to drive a manual. The clutch bypass is for deep water so you don't have to push in your clutch to start and potentially wreck the clutch in deep water/mud.
you are correct, I noticed on this on the video as well. This is standard on Jeeps and has been for years, they just don't bother putting a switch with a fancy name on it on their vehicles
I wish off-road reviews like this when comparing 2 different trucks would use the same exact tires. The Jeep’s tires give it a large advantage off-road. I think the Toyota with the same tires would do just as good if not better on this trail. Good video btw.
I’ve had both a Tacoma TRD off-road, JK, and CJ5. They all have their purposes, the jeep is better off-road but is also much less practical (at least my jk). The Tacoma is obviously the better daily driver and is much more reliable, while the jeep is a fun weekend warrior/off-roader. In my opinion, the Tacoma handles a lot better than the jeep (to be expected with ifs) but would get stuck before the jeep. However, the idea of wheeling a $45-55k truck hurts my head.
@@gsmith7162 I’ve been daily driving my JKU since 2015 and do not understand why folks keep implying they are hard to live with except as weekend toys. To each their own, but the Jeep gets me there and back every time, every day. Longest trip to date was the 5000km round trip to the end of the trans-taiga with a stop at James Bay. Never once felt uncomfortable nor uncertain of the Jeep’s reliability. Then most recently a weekend in VMUTS- no fuss, no bother. Not downplaying the legendary reliability of the Toyota, but the Jeep holds its own.
@@WilliamBarrow I agree, the wrangler will still get the job done. However, my particular wrangler had quite a few issues and was not cheap to maintain. Now, I have family with a 2015 and 2018 wrangler, and it seems like Jeep/Chrysler has fixed most of these issues, but they still initially handle about the same. It’s just the nature of the beast (a tall/boxy SUV with solid axles). IMO, The main takeaway from the wrangler is that it’s untouchable off-road and highly customizable. However, I don’t think the wrangler has ever really been known for its longevity; even the most recent models have sealed/unserviceable components, which will effect the longevity of those towing, off-roading, water crossing, etc. In short, the very design of the Jeep’s body, frame, and driveline is for off-roading and has changed very little in the past decade or two. This makes them impractical for daily driving when compared to cheaper, newer designed, and similarly equipped cars/trucks. They just don’t handle as well, they aren’t designed to; they are sold as fun/modifiable cars. Sure they can be a DD (such as mine was) but most don’t purchase a wrangler for handling, longevity, or practicality; they do because they are fun cars. Out of all of the cars I’ve owned, my jeep was the least practical and handled the worse on-road but was still the most fun car I’ve owned to date. Unfortunately, I’m at a place where I can’t sacrifice the aforementioned items for the wrangler.
Team Truck King, This video is an Instant Classic!! As long as there are gasoline/Diesel engines there should be manual transmissions. Let me amend that, as long as there are trucks and cars there should be manual transmissions.
I can appreciate the time and effort into these comparisons. BUT! Cmon. One has road tires made for snow and ones got aggressive MTs? What is the point if they're not on the same tire?
Price is much closer when you actually go in to buy these. FCA being domestic means you don’t pay msrp. Toyota makes so few pros that there is no discounts.
I paid 66k for my loaded JTR. It is definitely on the pricey side especially for a mid size truck but I honestly feel that it’s better off road capabilities plus it’s it factor, including its ability to go full beach mode with the top off are worth the extra money. Would also like to note that I would love to have a taco in my stable as well. I think they look awsome.
@@RagingBad MSRP for TRD Pro Tacoma and Jeep Gladiator Rubicon both start at $44,000 before options and packages. That's in USA. There are a lot more options you can add to the Jeep, but you can also get $5-$8k off Gladiator (check the buying threads on the gladiator forum). TRD Pro, you're lucky if you don't have to pay mark-up, because they are so rare.
Location seems to matter with Jeeps. I live in Pennsylvania near Butler and Jeeps hold their value very well here. When I read articles in JP magazine from the west coast, and they go over price ranges for used Jeeps, I find that what would get you a solid vehicle on the west coast wouldn't be enough to buy a broken down pile of rust around my neck of the woods.
I order a Taco over a hot dog any day! I've had two Jeeps in the past and both had more problems than I could ever imagine. My 2007 Tacoma is so sweet and reliable!
What separates these two trucks is the reliability and dependability! Honestly I would not pay that kind of money for anything coming from Chrysler! Just my humble opinion. Thank you for the video
Hey, bud, you must kidding or you just came from Mars: www.google.co.cr/search?hl=es&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=767&ei=n5MtXK--EMmv5wLonLKIBA&q=toyota+rust+recall&oq=To&gs_l=img.1.0.35i39j0l9.5213.5831..9433...0.0..0.118.231.0j2......1....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.ZzRqwaNRQec Toyota reliable? hahaha. Greetings from Costa Rica.
@@waltermeono5253 no not kidding mate! The frame issue was fixed! I am talking about overall reliability! I have friends with Rams and they have all sorts of problems! Cheers
@@BabakPA Of course, it was mandatory, Toyota had to fix it (and must be fixing it yet), obviously all brands have to fix every issue, but if that incomparable and insuperable rust issue would have plagued Jeep, haters whould have blamed the brand and ridiculizing it, right? But Toyota fans are so special, they are unable to realize nothing bad about their loved brand. Additionally, almost every day there are recalls for Toyota, "the king of recalls": www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-12/the-king-of-auto-recalls-isnt-gm-its-toyota www.autoweek.com/news/a1858386/toyota-frame-settlement-could-cost-company-34-billion/ www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-05/toyota-recalls-1-million-cars-mainly-prius-on-risk-of-fire www.autonews.com/regulation-safety/toyota-recall-nearly-700000-vehicles-over-fuel-pump-problem? www.autoblog.com/2020/06/24/toyota-prius-v-recall/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS91cmw_c2E9dCZyY3Q9aiZxPSZlc3JjPXMmc291cmNlPXdlYiZjZD0mY2FkPXJqYSZ1YWN0PTgmdmVkPTJhaFVLRXdpWHRmaVRwNTdxQWhVaG0tQUtIUS0yQnJ3UUZqQUVlZ1FJQVJBQiZ1cmw9aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cuYXV0b2Jsb2cuY29tJTJGMjAyMCUyRjA2JTJGMjQlMkZ0b3lvdGEtcHJpdXMtdi1yZWNhbGwlMkYmdXNnPUFPdlZhdzE3TDBHbG4tSmtHNlNvc2ZHRHRzVmY&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIo0s6H9ciTQLXZrWY__ckrqefrpXwVQnLsB0zg2HYZX7OXDJRbaRUzFx2HIFY9TH3j2QJGTK7YLgaeV67DYevHb0t-RXZyz-Eeb4XOZd6WJXC44Wsf_Ovpwx9aL7HROKEgSRXFFtybqFaDR5HxHmblZcXZa6dxSGc0cmQGvrJPU abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-probing-engine-fires-19m-toyota-rav4-suvs-76181633 And finally, the official list of recalls from Edmonds for you to enjoy next weekend. I hope you update your Toyota's issues (reliability) information: www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html Toyota reliable? It's a real and fine joke, don't you think so? Greetings from Costa Rica.
Ive Owned two dodge Dakotas a 96 and a 2002 and both of those trucks served me well with no issues. I just traded a 17 Tacoma for a 2020 GMC sierra. I'll never own another Tacoma!
Having owned dozens of Toyota all my life with a current 2016 Mexico made off road 😞 I think it's time to get a 22 /23 jeep gladiator. Great video I learned a ton... Will look for a review of the eco diesel and I think it is time to shop!
Love the review. Very well done. Keeping the manuals alive! I have the manual Gladiator Mojave, and I think my wife is sold on the Taco. I don’t think you can go wrong with either though. Again great video. Thanks!
Are you kidding give me that Tacoma any day over any truck not just over that fiat , I go out solo in deep woods I can’t call a tow truck for a breakdown , too old for that shit
Awesome video. You (driver) made it look like so much fun. You didn't bash either truck either. I'm a Tacoma owner but you made both trucks looks great. Fun video, that's why I watch RUclips, for fun.
I think the clutch start manual is great but why doesn't toyota just use the brake hold feature in this case? like it will hold ur brake until you press the accelerator? wouldn't it be easier for everyday use as well? It has it in other manual models. idk just thoughts
Be great to see the long-term reliability of each of these models.......the taco is a proven commodity (I have a 2023), and from my personal experience the jeep is a money pit (have had 4 of them). Both are very fun and will take you places you probably shouldn't be.
I went with the TRD Off Road. I've driven and off roaded a bad ass Gladiator before and would have loved to have gotten that one but they don't have anything that competes price wise with the TRD Off Road. My brand new 2021 TRD Off Road with manual transmission was only 36k USD when I got it 6 months ago. Good luck finding a Gladiator at that price range period, much less finding a manual.
Great video! I'd love to see MPG and towing comparison - saw the Mojave tow already but seeing how the taco tows would be cool, especially with some comments on how they compare!
I’ll save $10K and buy the Tacoma along with a nice set of mud tires like the jeep has. In 10 years my Tacoma will be worth $10-15K more than the jeep would have cost me when I signed paperwork. As a bonus, I won’t have to deal with oil leaks, broken struts and transmission issues as Chrysler products are famous for.
That's going to be less of an issue as the JL (the basis for the Gladiator) was a massive upgrade over the JK (the previous one) for starters no more FCA designed transmission, the manual is an off the shelf unit FCA purchased, but more importantly the 8 speed automatic is purchased from a German company, ZF, this unit is found in everything from Rolls Royce to BMW, the 8HP is a massively strong transmission. It's also objectively better than the manual, the 8 series from ZF can accept a lower first gear than the manual 6 speed does, the ratio is considerably lower. That transmission can handle 707 horsepower put out by the Hellcat engines, pretending it will suddenly fail is pretty stupid when it's used by the some of the highest end car makers on earth. The Gladiator also uses the the same gauge struts as found on the Ram 1500, a vehicle designed to pull 12,000 pounds, they are a thicker gauge than the Tacoma's, so again not an issue, if anything the Tacoma's are now the more likely units to fail in this regard, and when you bring the Mojave trim Gladiator into this, it's even heavier, the Ford Raptor has less frame reinforcement that the Mojave does. The TLDR is the jeep's problems are a thing of the past, the only concern is the Pentastar, you really need to give jeep another chance if we are going to be honest, the jeep JK was designed in 2006 under Jeep's worst management to be cheap as possible, the JL was designed under FCA who wanted to sell the jeep brand across the entire planet....they are two very different vehicles and made very differently, the only major parts they share is the Pentastar V6, that's the only point of concern i'd still have with a modern Wrangler/Gladiator.
I have a jeep gladiator mojave and let me tell you i would not trade it for anything in the world!! It’s just so much fun out in the desert and you can definitely feel the power!!
Thanks for this great review. Just bought a 21 Trd Pro Taco in mag gray with 6mt. Very happy with my purchase, considering we live in CO and I need 4x4 just to get out of my steep driveway when it snows. The Taco costs $10k less than the Jeep, has better resale and reliability I know I made the right choice for a manual pickup. Just wanted to let you know that the Tacoma user manual states you should never use the clutch start cancel for regular everyday starting . Very nice demonstration of its use in gear though!
@@norsemanix2358 Technically you are right, because there is no resale value yet for the gladiator. But if we look at the wrangler how many years is in the first spot. So....
@@RagingBad What I was trying to say is that from the wrangler has the best resale value from SUVs, beating the 4Runner. Nobody knows what the resale value is going to be for the Gladiator, because you need five years to see it. So saying that the Taco has a better resale value then the Gladiator it's not true yet. We have to wait and see:) There is no reason to use the F word. We are just talking about trucks.
I had an 08, gas guzzling, and the front independent suspension wouldn't stay aligned, rear axle bearing failures, and front differential howl/growl TSB which required replacing the front differential due to crap bearings, apparently they continued to use trash bearings for a few years as the rear axle bearing and front differential bearing issues were common up until the 2010 or 2011 model years if I recall. The cam tower oil leaks in the 5.7L V8 were pretty common as well up until 2014 if I recall. Yep, not a Toyota fan much anymore after my 08 Tundra mess...my 05 Tundra however has been problem free for 169k miles.
@@peterjanjanin9883 haha the new Wranglers are pretty good. I haven't had any issues with mines so far. Plus I like that the Gladiator Rubicon comes with solid axles front & rear, front & rear lockers, sway bar disconnect, rock rails, better ground clearance etc.
Three weeks ago did a trail near Minden Ontario but end up on the Anson trail! My brand new 2021 Tacoma TRD 4X4 was upgraded with Bilstein 6112 front shocks and rear ICON AAL 1.5 with Bilstein 4600 shocks, will upgrade later.... A one hour trail end up in a 16 hour trip. Took a wrong turn onto the Anson trail. Meet up with two upgraded jeeps on 35 inch tires and lift. Taco tires: BFG KO2 265/75/16 with only a 1.5 inch lift. Long story short, one jeep had to be pulled through swamps, mud , rocks for 6 hours. Taco wins!
You can never have a fair evaluation of vehicles without the same tires...
agreed. the gladi is more equipped with those mud terrains. tires are everything
Even if they have the same tires the Tacoma isn't going to keep up with the Jeep!
Jeep in off road beats anything that the Tacoma has to offer.
Fyi: current 2020 Toyota tacoma trd pro owner, previously owned 2017 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon unlimited.
@@kevencouch3291 Agreed. I had 2015 Willys and now 2020 TRD OR
Amen
Agree. And plus the Jeep would break down after like a couple years and the Tacoma would last as long as you want
Thank you for reviewing vehicles with manual transmissions!👍
Manuals Rule
Man, I just love driving my manual truck. It may be a bit harder to use off-road, but it feels so good!
Agree.
Yas my 2012 TRD sport 4x4 is manual, haven't thought about offroadin with it but it's a fuckin blast to drive 👍🏼👍🏼
@@uno3863 you need to hit some smile dirt!
So glad to see a channel that truly spends time showing what these trucks can do as opposed to just talking about it!! Keep up the great work, looking forward to your channel growing! I’m a Jeep fan but both great trucks depending on your needs.
Thanks! Will do!
Clutch start cancel is awesome. Toyota has had that feature on their manual trucks since the 80’s.
Jeeps have that too. They just don't have a fancy switch for it. It's been part of Jeeps for years, in 4 low you could always start in in gear without clutch.
Just make sure your in neutral! I had an 88 that took a trip down a bank and into a tree lol.
@@nickboucher8895 too bad Jeep’s manual transmission is garbage now
My frontier has it too.
My Impreza has this, too, they call it an e-brake. Bonus it's also fun for pitching it sideways.
I’d take the tacoma trd pro anyday over any other truck. Toyota is always on point with their trd pro colors. This lunar rock doesn’t disappoint and looks even better in person. Throw some falken wildpeaks or ko2s or km3s on the tacoma and it’s an amazing rig. Thank you for actually doing some off roading unlike TFL’s recent videos where they do battles in a parking lot just talking about the features of each truck and on paper.
TFL’s kind of a joke (with exception of Tommy) when it comes to testing and reviewing vehicles. Too much feelings/bias involved and not enough science and actual testing. TK is my #1 go-to for real reviews.
@@driveshift I've always felt this way. They do good videos, like the Ikes and the off road videos, but unless Prospector Pete aka Mr. Truck is there there is lack of in depth knowledge.
TFL went downhill, I unsubscribed to their channels, waste of time. Truck King is great! I found a few other good truck/ off-roading channels to replace TFL entirely.
*over any other midsized truck
Tacoma is terrible drivetrain wise. Most inconsistent shifting in any vehicle ever. Gladiator, ZR2, Ranger kill the Tacoma. And I’ve been a Tacoma fan forever.
Everytime he goes threw a little puddle he sounds like he's on his wedding night. 😍
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol
I would make the same noises if I had his job!
Your channel is getting better with each video. Even my wife looks forward to watching.
Glad to hear it!
Thanks!
The fact that these trucks were both manual transmissions sold it for me. I miss having my manual transmission Ford ranger and I am totally getting a taco with manual. My only thing is the sport has six speed manual access cab and standard size bed, which I prefer. But it doesn’t have locking rear diffs. I wish you could have it all but Toyota punishes you for having a manual transmission
Welcome!
My hard earned money goes to the M/T Tacoma.
Yes! A rare video indeed!! Thank you for featuring manual transmissions! Wish there was more content like this featuring them!
Our pleasure!
This is the best truck show out there! Thanks for all your great work!
Keep the manuals coming, outstanding video, thanks Truck King
Proud owner of a 2017 Tacoma TRD Sport manual. Props to Toyota for offering manual at every trim level of the Tacoma.
They don’t anymore I’m just hoping this won’t be the last gen with a manual
Great comparison! Happy to see a Canadian reviewer testing these trucks. Especially as a lot of your Ontario forest tracks are similar to the forest tracks we have over here in Saskatchewan that I enjoy wheeling in! Makes the truck test results much more “real world” than the typical rock crawling testing most reviewers tend to focus on. Keep it up! And Merry Christmas!
Glad you like them! eh?
Absolutely love the genuine excitement you have while reviewing
He made the video fun
Great review! It's clear that a NEW Gladiator has some advantages over the Taco. Having owned both Toyotas and Jeeps I would be remiss to point out that the Toyotas are so much more reliable. You may sacrifice a little in terms of tech and the most powerful powertrain but if trail riding is really your thing, no doubt you'll feel more confident with the Toyota durability not to mention LONGEVITY!
Jeeps have been fairly reliable for a number of years now and the 3.6L Pentastar has almost no reliability issues. It’s also the best selling V6 in Canada. Lots of people complain about the reliability of Jeeps but they haven’t been major reliability issues for a pretty long time.
@@blackstratus2664 comparing Jeep's reliability to Toyota's is like comparing the Clippers Body of work to the Lakers. I have a WK2 GC Trailhawk in the garage right now and while I really enjoy it, it doesn't compare with my 2010 4Runner or 03 Tundra on the reliability scale.
@@seamuspdolan there are many Jeeps out there with over 300k on them with next to no issues, and there are many new Toyota’s with huge reliability issues. Older Toyota’s were great, newer ones not as good. Neither is bad, its just a lot of people complain about Jeep reliability and its not a concern anymore, and hasn’t been for quite some time now.
@@blackstratus2664 lol ok....www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
@@seamuspdolan ive owned 5 Wranglers since 1996 and have never had any major issues other than the dumb shit I did myself and tried to say “it just broke”. None of my other Jeep owning friends have any major problems either.
Just received my 2021 taco trd pro on Christmas eve and I love it .
I'm a camper weekend warrior that was using a 07 Fj on toytec 3"lift 35 tires. This Taco will be my next project
I have a Gladiator Rubicon with a Manual, and honestly its a great truck. While significantly more expensive than the taco you can see why. Taco is a great truck it just feels super dated when you inside one. Seems like its is a 10-15 year old truck inside and one of the main reasons I didn’t go with it.
What are you talking about, I rented a jeep for a whole week on my Hawaii vacation and it was awful. The road noise was annoying, my family hated the back seat they said the felt worst than the seats in the Suttle bus at the airport, the poor insulation make the jeep feel cheap everytime you close the doors. The inside is not smaller than the tacoma but it feels claustrophobic in there. On the Driving side it felt awful in the hwy, any drive longer than an hour was a pain. I rented the jeep trying to convince the wife to trade in our 2018 tacoma off road and I'm so happy I did cause after the 1 day honeymoon fase I hated that piece of shit
So I bought the Mojave based partly, on this video, and I love it! Just came back from Moab, and the Mojave is impressive even in stock form,
Great job TK, love your channel,
On a Jeep, the Clutch Start Cancel feature was basically removing a fuse. Then you can start it in gear and it will pull you up the hill. Did it in my TJ and LJ.
Clutch start cancel has been in Toyotas for a long time... I had it in my old 4 runner.
I'd never use it while in gear though haha
My 89 Mazda B2600i 4x4 pickup had clutch start cancel, as did my 89 Nissan D21 4x4 pickup....its not a Toyota thing.
Tacoma did everything the Jeep did with worse tires.
Just pointing out the Jeeps tires were factory installed, the Taco's were aftermarket. If you want to make aftermarket changes they should be the same, otherwise keep'em stock for the comparison.
And for 10,000 bucks less
@@TM-qn3qj You're right, dude. Greetings from Costa Rica.
also the tacoma is top off road spec and the gladiator isnt even a rubicon but still outperformed
I’d take that Toyota over that jeep any any day of the week.
Amen brother.
Jeep died a long time ago. Its a Fiat-chysler product with Jeep badging
@@freeravenadventures6925 They already had a reputation for bad reliability way before FCA was a fact.
And this test was a little biased in my opinion, the Tacoma had two disadvantages and even though she went over all the obstacles easy, imagine using bigger better tyres which not only will give it better traction but also higher clearance
Agreed
I had to have a manual when I order my 2017 trd pro. I'll never sell it.
If Toyota had a seating position like the JK / JL / JT, I would have had one years ago with an aftermarket front bumper and winch. I do not like sitting on the floor. Great video. I was just up in the snow on the trails last week, but not as watery as your trails.
Its the one thing that has kept me from getting the tacoma trd pro time and time again. The seating position, as well as rear seat leg room. I am only 6' tall but in my driving position no one can sit behind me. It sucks because I absolutely love how the tacoma looks.
@Chonch You driving position should be so that your arms are bent at 90°. If you are sliding your seat back to the point that your arm are straight or near straight you are too far back. I'm 6'1" and have no problem with the Taco. I own a Wrangler but drove Tacos in the military. In every driving school both on and offroad this is what's taught.
@@juanticimo Im 6' and got seat jackers which raise the seat like 1.5" and it makes a hell of a difference in seating feel. It's like a new vehicle. I even did it on the passenger side and can now mount a compressor and CB under the seats with room to spare.
In my Pro I can raise the seat till my heads out the sunroof. Why are you all sitting on the floor? Just raise the damn seat.
Start, clutch, cancel feature is nice. Thanks for the tip! I have the automatic '21 Pro Lunar Rock, but it's so nice to know what manual has which I originally wanted. Love your video. Very informative! Tacoma rock!
Good ones! But we need a every day car, and the most reliable too! Taco 4 me.
Would have loved to see that Tacoma on the same tires but overall great to see the differences and you pointed out the important ones. How does each compare on the highway with and without towing would be a great video!
Taking the Tacoma any day of the week. It’s really not even a hard choice lol
Why is it that Toyota drivers are especially inept and timid? And what makes Toyota so special that bad drivers are drawn to its car like moth into open flames? My theory is that Toyota (and Lexus) drivers are humor-less drones who, following Darwin's theory, have self-selected into driving the very soul-sucking cars that defines their personality.
Tacomas or 4runners
@@jakedank2746 Let me break it down to you: Over 15 years, I was doing automotive mechanical investigations averaging about 2,000/year. 1-2 of them were Toyotas, and usually due to abuse or lack of maintenance. The rest - all kinds of jeeps.
Hope it helps.
You'll think differently after driving the new jeep gladiator
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk I considered that actually, so I drove one. I just wasn’t impressed, I liked it but didn’t love it. It was so long and without a lift & bigger tires would get hung up on everything.
Just bought a Gladiator Rubicon with a manual. It was $4000 off because…manual! I love it. Don’t mind rowing the gears myself. I feel more control of the truck and the clutch is fairly light.
cuck if you would bought a automatic jeep id prob make fun of you
😂 they take less money and don’t know we want the manuals more than the automatics. You stole it
Just ordered a Mojave. Cant wait. Thanks for the great Canadian reviews !!! Nice to see some winter driving.
Glad you like them!
@1:54!!!!! You said it yourself!!!! Unfair. Use same tires!
Finally someone who properly reviews the vehicles
Yeah, what a GREAT job these guys do!
I have owned both Jeep and Toyota. If I lived in a rural area where 90% of my driving was in rugged conditions, the Jeep would be a good call. Or if it was a 2nd vehicle. But day in day out driving in all conditions including offroad, the TRD Pro is awesome and more practical. Throw a set of more aggressive set of tires, and it damn near the perfect vehicle...for me.
I’m failing to understand here. You admit the Jeep is better off road then follow up by saying the Tacoma is better off-road? I mean the Jeep Wrangler is a purpose built truck. You can tow with a tacoma, you can off road a tacoma, but it’s pretty subpar in both those aspects.
TRD for sure. Having purchased a 2007 Taco new in 07, the thing has never let me down. Others have spoken about the reliability of the Toyota, and I will personally attest to this. Nice review, and yes the Gladiator looks fun too! Merry Christmas to all! Wished I had a 2020 TRD Pro Under the tree this year 😂
It's all fun and games until you need the frame replaced. At least they addressed that issue. Just wish they would fully update the Toyota more. Rear drum brakes and an old motor andtyranny, seriously 😳.
I love your enthusiasm, Stephen! Listening to you laughing while piloting the vehicles thru the ice was cool too.
Thanks 👍
I own a 4Runner, Sequoia, and a 1997 4.0 Wrangler. They’re all great in their own ways. But a Gladiator just seems like the coolest vehicle you can buy. I want one. Of course in a manual.
How many miles on the Wrangler?
@@rightlanehog3151 179,000 4.0 5-Speed. Runs really nicely!
@@gatto190 That old AMC straight 6 was a good engine.
I would definitely buy the Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro, cause the Jeep would be breaking down and giving me a lot of problems, I used to own a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4, bought it brand new, baby it and gave me so many problems that it even started leaking oil at 22k miles, this Jeep in the video has the same engine. Ended up trading it in for a 2021 Toyota 4Runner Limited Night Shade Edition, and I also own a 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 fully equipped, I love them a lot!!!!!.
That's your fault, the 3.6 V6 is not designed for the full size SUV, FCA only puts them in base units for a reason, it's slow and stressed to all hell pulling that thing around, hence why the V8s are mid trim and up.
You should like the kind of person who bought a Jeep commander back in the day with a 3.7 and complained when It died at 50,000 miles because it overheated at every speed because the engine was not big enough for the weight.
@@deepbludreams lol imagine telling the owner of a vehicle it’s their fault fca builds a garbage product, jeep owners are a deluded bunch
@@abjeepify guess you are just ignoring that era when Tacoma frames would bend 45 degrees when picked up by a lift, almost as if a severe design flaw caused rust on the inside of the frame
Tacoma $15000 cheaper, you can buy a better set of tires, and a brand new atv, way better deal. And a Toyota over a Chrysler, a no brainer.
Better yet, get a ZR2 and have over $25k in your pocket. It doesn't need tire or suspension upgrades because it has everything on it already. No brainer
@@shiftmotorsports9803 Chevy is junk though. Only problem with your comment.
You mean a Toyota over a fiat?
@@Joe-gy4sd Stellantis now
Hey, bud, you should be careful with the Toyota garbage:
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Toyota reliable? hahaha. Greetings from Costa Rica.
In regards to people crabbing on reliability of the Jeep...I had a 2012 wrangler unlimited Sahara for 7 years. Only significant issue, out of warranty, was with seat cover wear. Even when in warranty, no serious issues.
Yeah. I am with you. I have had my current TJ since 2005. My water pump went out, that is it. And that was probably my fault as it was sitting a lot at the time and I think the seal dried up.
The pentastar is a super stout motor! Chrysler issues as of lat are electronics, and they didn't put much into the gladiator... with the tougher suspension and axles it should be one of the toughest light duty trucks on the market
I agree with you, I had many mopars including a 2021 Gladiator Mojave and enjoying all of them. The gladiator I've modified with winch and an aftermarket front bumper. That is what is good about a Jeep, have it your way.
I’ve had 5 Wranglers since 1996 and no real problems other that the dumb stuff I did myself.
Every time I go off roading there’s always a Jeep owner that needs help because his rig broke something.
Are they much older Jeep’s or newer ones? Modified or stock? I’m genuinely curious. Thanks.
@@NickCasciani I’ve seen mostly older Jeeps...heavy modifications definitely not daily drivers. Broken u-joints, axle shafts, blown tires.... hmm what else, ran into newer Jeeps with over heating problems and one that stalled and couldn’t be started again..Jeeps are POS. I would never buy one ..
Can confirm. I owned a 00 jeep for many years, constantly working on it and I didn't go wheelin often. It was my daily driver. I don't know maybe I got a lemon. I sat in a 2020 taco and I didn't fit in it because I'm 6' 3". I went back to my roots and bought a 93 toyota truck i stumbled upon and I dig it the most.
Your right about the jeep owner breaking down and needing something, that WAS me after I bought my Tacoma now I stop to help the jeep owners , what a difference it is owning a Tacoma and everything else ....
must just be i've had good luck only problem i've had is a very minor gas leak in the evap system
I wanna see a land cruiser go the hydroline.
Two very similar vehicles.. The main difference is on how long each will last...
And we all know the answer
There’s literally a Facebook group called “Jeep Gladiator Problems” , couldn’t find anything similar for the Tacoma even though the 3rd Gen hasn’t been as reliable as the 2nd gen. 😂
I have a Tacoma
@@99jeep1 good for you
And that's about all that matters.
One point that you neglected to mention.... and that's the "reliability" of each. I own a Jeep Wrangler and if I'd do it again, I'd buy a Tacoma. Why? Because Toyota is far more reliable. I've had so many fixes on my Jeep, I absolutely regret buy one.
Agreed. I own a couple Jeep Wranglers and Tacoma. I prefer the TJ because I can work on it easier than the JL. The JL has so many problems with engine and electrical. While my Tacoma is about to hit 100k and only maintenance I have done is fluids, brakes, and tires. This April I will sell the JL. Don't think I will invest in a new Jeep anytime soon. I will be interested in the new Gen 4 Tacoma that comes out in a couple years. I wouldn't get the Pro, because for the money you can better upgrade suspension and tires yourself for the money. The only thing I love about the pro's is the paint options.
I bought the underdog pro4x frontier instead it's been amazingly reliable but between the two hands down the taco. Especially since it would be my daily drive/family hauler, etc.. not just my offroad rig
I have both of them
The gladiator has an 8 speed auto transmission.
I’ll say gladiator is a Tacoma killer. 😎
Looking at a 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro with the manual transmission. Currently have a 2020 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro. Hate the automatic transmission. Manual is a dream to drive. Drove a manual Mojave...transmission shifted great. Power just wasn't there. Had to really run it up in the rpm band to get it moving. Just wasn't impressed. The rest of the Gladiator was really great though. Toyota is winning out. Reliability is also there in the Toyota. And I'm a Jeep person. Loved the videos though. Great job.
I live in Europe and can get a g350 diesel, but I'm looking forward to import a US made pickup. Raptor vs TRD pro Tacoma, what would You choose and why? BTW does the Tacoma have 2 or 3 lockers?
I would go with Taco for two things. I also thing the tires made a huge diff. Should have the same tires. Good video !
1- $10k cheaper
2- reliable (I had Jeeps and have had a fair share of reliability issue although they are getting better )
plus the toyota will last three times as long as the jeep
@@jonathanseitz8644 Doubtful.
@@jonathanseitz8644 funny thing about that, i bought a jl sport s in 2018, been wheeling it for 3 1/3 years and daily driving it, had 0 problems so far. My buddy bought a tacoma in march boasting that it would outlast my wrangler this and that toyota reliability blah blah.... well his tacoma lasted until august and the transmission melted the first three gears together. mind you it never went off road, never towed a thing it broke down going 35 on a fresh paved road. toyota and jeep are not the same as they were half a century ago. times have changed
@@SanctumOfDreams you are right they arnt the same as a century ago i acually own both i have a 2017 CHEROKEE trail hawk which is amazing off road as well and a 2002 tundra my tundra has 200000 + and still runs like the day i bought it amazing truck my cherokee has 25000 miles on it and has had the whole rear diff replaced driver side rear wheel bearing engine ticks like a 1942 sherman tank and i always use full synthetic oil almost feel like it may have been a lemon but i hear you i work for honda manufacturing and our cars are junk nothing like the cars we used to build times are changing
Steve you have way too much fun. I had a TRD SPORT Tacoma....I think Toyota makes a superior product to everyone. Toyota should put Duratracs on their off roaders or some equivalent tire. I have Duratracs on my Tundra for the winter and my spring trip to camp. My camp has roads much like what you test your trucks in. Man, you have way too much fun and Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you too Mike.
I put K02's on right away
If I don't have a 2021 Tacoma 4x4 offroad fully loaded I would be craving for one so badly. Thanks to my wife for early Christmas present. Very nice review and I love all your videos.
Congratulations, I just purchased a 2021 TRD DCSB 4x4 and I’m loving it more & more everyday , the more I drive it the more I love it ...
Both trucks looked like they did pretty well. The Jeep Gladiator Rubicon gets all the press it seems but the Mojave is the one to get. It has a lot of built up features.
Mojave is nice, but I'd still choose the gladiator rubicon with the front locker and diesel, Mojave didn't come in diesel/front locker. Got my rubicon about a year and few months and already put 17k miles on it with no issues whatsoever. But the TRD is nice too, just not for me I guess, sold it before I got the gladiator
@victorradu3986 all about what you'll be doing with it, I spend much more time going fast on terrible roads and going fast offroad than I do "crawling" being as I'd need to travel to find anywhere to do that. So for me the mojave makes more sense and is actually the smarter choice. Had mine for almost a month and a love it
With a Rubicon gladiator, you get a four to one transfer case which makes the gearing so much lower which is another example of why you should’ve had a Rubicon instead of a Mojave not to mention the disconnecting, swaybar and front and rear lockers
Save the manuals
Thank you sir for educating me about the clutch cancel switch
I know the Jeep JK have a clutch start bypass automatically whenever in 4 Lo, I think the Gladiator does too. Also if you can't start your vehicle in 4 Lo without rolling back you need to learn to drive a manual. The clutch bypass is for deep water so you don't have to push in your clutch to start and potentially wreck the clutch in deep water/mud.
you are correct, I noticed on this on the video as well. This is standard on Jeeps and has been for years, they just don't bother putting a switch with a fancy name on it on their vehicles
Tacoma has the clutch bypass too, at at least since 1994.
Yes- was surprised he didn’t know the Jeep’s have this built in, and that it is specifically for water starts.
4:43 "My pine! Why you.....You space *******, you killed a pine!" Old man Peabody
Great video, have been looking hard for this comparison.
I wish off-road reviews like this when comparing 2 different trucks would use the same exact tires. The Jeep’s tires give it a large advantage off-road. I think the Toyota with the same tires would do just as good if not better on this trail. Good video btw.
Sorry can't do it. No budget for that.
@@TruckKing Maybe one day!
Probably not possible when borrowing trucks from the manufacturers 🤔
You run what you brung and deal with it as it comes from the dealers- fair as hell.
@@TruckKing just do it in one car and then take them off and install on the other
The gladiator will get you out there, that Tacoma will get you back home!
@Brian Jones first time for everything
Brian Jones My 2020 TRD OFF ROAD has been great to me! Both are awesome Jeep and Tacoma.
I’ve had both a Tacoma TRD off-road, JK, and CJ5. They all have their purposes, the jeep is better off-road but is also much less practical (at least my jk). The Tacoma is obviously the better daily driver and is much more reliable, while the jeep is a fun weekend warrior/off-roader. In my opinion, the Tacoma handles a lot better than the jeep (to be expected with ifs) but would get stuck before the jeep. However, the idea of wheeling a $45-55k truck hurts my head.
@@gsmith7162 I’ve been daily driving my JKU since 2015 and do not understand why folks keep implying they are hard to live with except as weekend toys. To each their own, but the Jeep gets me there and back every time, every day. Longest trip to date was the 5000km round trip to the end of the trans-taiga with a stop at James Bay. Never once felt uncomfortable nor uncertain of the Jeep’s reliability. Then most recently a weekend in VMUTS- no fuss, no bother. Not downplaying the legendary reliability of the Toyota, but the Jeep holds its own.
@@WilliamBarrow I agree, the wrangler will still get the job done. However, my particular wrangler had quite a few issues and was not cheap to maintain. Now, I have family with a 2015 and 2018 wrangler, and it seems like Jeep/Chrysler has fixed most of these issues, but they still initially handle about the same. It’s just the nature of the beast (a tall/boxy SUV with solid axles). IMO, The main takeaway from the wrangler is that it’s untouchable off-road and highly customizable. However, I don’t think the wrangler has ever really been known for its longevity; even the most recent models have sealed/unserviceable components, which will effect the longevity of those towing, off-roading, water crossing, etc.
In short, the very design of the Jeep’s body, frame, and driveline is for off-roading and has changed very little in the past decade or two. This makes them impractical for daily driving when compared to cheaper, newer designed, and similarly equipped cars/trucks. They just don’t handle as well, they aren’t designed to; they are sold as fun/modifiable cars. Sure they can be a DD (such as mine was) but most don’t purchase a wrangler for handling, longevity, or practicality; they do because they are fun cars.
Out of all of the cars I’ve owned, my jeep was the least practical and handled the worse on-road but was still the most fun car I’ve owned to date. Unfortunately, I’m at a place where I can’t sacrifice the aforementioned items for the wrangler.
Team Truck King, This video is an Instant Classic!! As long as there are gasoline/Diesel engines there should be manual transmissions. Let me amend that, as long as there are trucks and cars there should be manual transmissions.
We agree!
I can appreciate the time and effort into these comparisons. BUT!
Cmon. One has road tires made for snow and ones got aggressive MTs? What is the point if they're not on the same tire?
6:47 your laugh sounded just like Bubbles when he still had Conky. Before his tragic demise. Lmao. 😂😂
Awesome Stephen! That price difference is hard to ignore
Price is much closer when you actually go in to buy these. FCA being domestic means you don’t pay msrp. Toyota makes so few pros that there is no discounts.
I paid 66k for my loaded JTR. It is definitely on the pricey side especially for a mid size truck but I honestly feel that it’s better off road capabilities plus it’s it factor, including its ability to go full beach mode with the top off are worth the extra money. Would also like to note that I would love to have a taco in my stable as well. I think they look awsome.
@@gs98999 in what universe do you live? Certainly not in the US
@@RagingBad MSRP for TRD Pro Tacoma and Jeep Gladiator Rubicon both start at $44,000 before options and packages. That's in USA. There are a lot more options you can add to the Jeep, but you can also get $5-$8k off Gladiator (check the buying threads on the gladiator forum). TRD Pro, you're lucky if you don't have to pay mark-up, because they are so rare.
@@newbwheeler9777 I paid 52k for my Loaded JTR. Just don't have leather or active safety group.
Guess which one is worth more in 4 years? TOYOTA gets my vote!
my 2015 Rubicon JKU is worth 90% of what I paid for it 5 years ago.
Guess you haven't priced a used Jeep latey
Location seems to matter with Jeeps. I live in Pennsylvania near Butler and Jeeps hold their value very well here. When I read articles in JP magazine from the west coast, and they go over price ranges for used Jeeps, I find that what would get you a solid vehicle on the west coast wouldn't be enough to buy a broken down pile of rust around my neck of the woods.
Fact... dollar for dollar, jeep looses to Tacoma every time in resale.
Jeep cult members are actually willing to pay a lot to their idol.
Manual transmission. I drove a Manny for 25 years. I’ll never go back
Easily in my top 3 channels on RUclips. Knowledgeable, honest, charming, and fun. Keep up the good work fellas!
Wow, thanks!
Real truck review right here.
I order a Taco over a hot dog any day! I've had two Jeeps in the past and both had more problems than I could ever imagine. My 2007 Tacoma is so sweet and reliable!
To TFL, THIS is the way that you Off-Road test Trucks!!
Thanks, but not sure Roman cruises our comments.
@@TruckKing They've got Andre cruising through these comments and taking names-every 48 hours-just to keep things honest.
@@TruckKing Lml
Subscribed because Canada. We got no snow yet here in Toronto im waiting fir a massive storm to take my 4x4 out.
What separates these two trucks is the reliability and dependability! Honestly I would not pay that kind of money for anything coming from Chrysler! Just my humble opinion. Thank you for the video
Hey, bud, you must kidding or you just came from Mars:
www.google.co.cr/search?hl=es&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=767&ei=n5MtXK--EMmv5wLonLKIBA&q=toyota+rust+recall&oq=To&gs_l=img.1.0.35i39j0l9.5213.5831..9433...0.0..0.118.231.0j2......1....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.ZzRqwaNRQec
Toyota reliable? hahaha. Greetings from Costa Rica.
@@waltermeono5253 no not kidding mate! The frame issue was fixed! I am talking about overall reliability! I have friends with Rams and they have all sorts of problems! Cheers
@@BabakPA Of course, it was mandatory, Toyota had to fix it (and must be fixing it yet), obviously all brands have to fix every issue, but if that incomparable and insuperable rust issue would have plagued Jeep, haters whould have blamed the brand and ridiculizing it, right? But Toyota fans are so special, they are unable to realize nothing bad about their loved brand. Additionally, almost every day there are recalls for Toyota, "the king of recalls":
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-12/the-king-of-auto-recalls-isnt-gm-its-toyota
www.autoweek.com/news/a1858386/toyota-frame-settlement-could-cost-company-34-billion/
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-05/toyota-recalls-1-million-cars-mainly-prius-on-risk-of-fire
www.autonews.com/regulation-safety/toyota-recall-nearly-700000-vehicles-over-fuel-pump-problem?
www.autoblog.com/2020/06/24/toyota-prius-v-recall/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS91cmw_c2E9dCZyY3Q9aiZxPSZlc3JjPXMmc291cmNlPXdlYiZjZD0mY2FkPXJqYSZ1YWN0PTgmdmVkPTJhaFVLRXdpWHRmaVRwNTdxQWhVaG0tQUtIUS0yQnJ3UUZqQUVlZ1FJQVJBQiZ1cmw9aHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cuYXV0b2Jsb2cuY29tJTJGMjAyMCUyRjA2JTJGMjQlMkZ0b3lvdGEtcHJpdXMtdi1yZWNhbGwlMkYmdXNnPUFPdlZhdzE3TDBHbG4tSmtHNlNvc2ZHRHRzVmY&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIo0s6H9ciTQLXZrWY__ckrqefrpXwVQnLsB0zg2HYZX7OXDJRbaRUzFx2HIFY9TH3j2QJGTK7YLgaeV67DYevHb0t-RXZyz-Eeb4XOZd6WJXC44Wsf_Ovpwx9aL7HROKEgSRXFFtybqFaDR5HxHmblZcXZa6dxSGc0cmQGvrJPU
abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-probing-engine-fires-19m-toyota-rav4-suvs-76181633
And finally, the official list of recalls from Edmonds for you to enjoy next weekend. I hope you update your Toyota's issues (reliability) information:
www.edmunds.com/recalls/toyota.html
Toyota reliable? It's a real and fine joke, don't you think so? Greetings from Costa Rica.
Ive Owned two dodge Dakotas a 96 and a 2002 and both of those trucks served me well with no issues. I just traded a 17 Tacoma for a 2020 GMC sierra. I'll never own another Tacoma!
@@waltermeono5253 You are not a used chryslers saleshole by any chances, are you?
Having owned dozens of Toyota all my life with a current 2016 Mexico made off road 😞 I think it's time to get a 22 /23 jeep gladiator. Great video I learned a ton... Will look for a review of the eco diesel and I think it is time to shop!
Taco, I don’t want to be at the dealer for recalls and issues. I want to use my truck and not waste time at the dealership
Might want to use Google before you post hypocritical information
@@shiftmotorsports9803Might want to use Google before you post hypocritical information
Great video, well done with good commentary, thank you.
This a great side by side comparison of two off-road heavy weights straight out of the box with the exception of the taco tires. Great video!!
Love the review. Very well done. Keeping the manuals alive! I have the manual Gladiator Mojave, and I think my wife is sold on the Taco. I don’t think you can go wrong with either though. Again great video. Thanks!
did they add a dead pedal to the manual jeep , for 65k would be nice to have a place to rest your foot
Clutch Start Cancel has been on Toyota 4x4’s since at least 1991. I guess that’s good information if someone is brand new to off-roading.
I just bought a bright fire cracker red Mojave !
I'm an Off-Road Tacoma owner and love it, but your new ride sounds sweet. Life is good😁 Enjoy
Loved all the info, picked up my Mojave and I love it!
Thank you so much for reviewing 2 manual trucks, I wish Toyota offered a manual option on the Tundra.
And 4Runner.
Are you kidding give me that Tacoma any day over any truck not just over that fiat , I go out solo in deep woods I can’t call a tow truck for a breakdown , too old for that shit
Put mud terrain on the Taco and almost equal off road with 100 times better reliability
....and disk brakes, comfortable adjustable seats, off-road tires....
@@marckruse2181 and the list goes on and on
Awesome video. You (driver) made it look like so much fun. You didn't bash either truck either. I'm a Tacoma owner but you made both trucks looks great. Fun video, that's why I watch RUclips, for fun.
Glad you enjoyed it!
He seriously couldn’t climb over that little sapling. 😂
My though too, I’d try to bump over that in my cherokee kL.....you guys punked out early
He knew the Tacoma couldn’t make it🤣
I think the clutch start manual is great but why doesn't toyota just use the brake hold feature in this case? like it will hold ur brake until you press the accelerator? wouldn't it be easier for everyday use as well? It has it in other manual models. idk just thoughts
The auto tacomas have that feature not sure if the manual does?
@@Boltdriver70 the corolla manual does. that's why I thought it could work here as well
Be great to see the long-term reliability of each of these models.......the taco is a proven commodity (I have a 2023), and from my personal experience the jeep is a money pit (have had 4 of them). Both are very fun and will take you places you probably shouldn't be.
I went with the TRD Off Road. I've driven and off roaded a bad ass Gladiator before and would have loved to have gotten that one but they don't have anything that competes price wise with the TRD Off Road. My brand new 2021 TRD Off Road with manual transmission was only 36k USD when I got it 6 months ago. Good luck finding a Gladiator at that price range period, much less finding a manual.
Great video! I'd love to see MPG and towing comparison - saw the Mojave tow already but seeing how the taco tows would be cool, especially with some comments on how they compare!
Sounds good!
My 1990 4runner has that same clutch cancel button certainly not a new feature but pretty neat seeing them use it again
I’ll save $10K and buy the Tacoma along with a nice set of mud tires like the jeep has.
In 10 years my Tacoma will be worth $10-15K more than the jeep would have cost me when I signed paperwork.
As a bonus, I won’t have to deal with oil leaks, broken struts and transmission issues as Chrysler products are famous for.
That's going to be less of an issue as the JL (the basis for the Gladiator) was a massive upgrade over the JK (the previous one) for starters no more FCA designed transmission, the manual is an off the shelf unit FCA purchased, but more importantly the 8 speed automatic is purchased from a German company, ZF, this unit is found in everything from Rolls Royce to BMW, the 8HP is a massively strong transmission.
It's also objectively better than the manual, the 8 series from ZF can accept a lower first gear than the manual 6 speed does, the ratio is considerably lower.
That transmission can handle 707 horsepower put out by the Hellcat engines, pretending it will suddenly fail is pretty stupid when it's used by the some of the highest end car makers on earth.
The Gladiator also uses the the same gauge struts as found on the Ram 1500, a vehicle designed to pull 12,000 pounds, they are a thicker gauge than the Tacoma's, so again not an issue, if anything the Tacoma's are now the more likely units to fail in this regard, and when you bring the Mojave trim Gladiator into this, it's even heavier, the Ford Raptor has less frame reinforcement that the Mojave does.
The TLDR is the jeep's problems are a thing of the past, the only concern is the Pentastar, you really need to give jeep another chance if we are going to be honest, the jeep JK was designed in 2006 under Jeep's worst management to be cheap as possible, the JL was designed under FCA who wanted to sell the jeep brand across the entire planet....they are two very different vehicles and made very differently, the only major parts they share is the Pentastar V6, that's the only point of concern i'd still have with a modern Wrangler/Gladiator.
I have a jeep gladiator mojave and let me tell you i would not trade it for anything in the world!! It’s just so much fun out in the desert and you can definitely feel the power!!
Thanks for this great review. Just bought a 21 Trd Pro Taco in mag gray with 6mt. Very happy with my purchase, considering we live in CO and I need 4x4 just to get out of my steep driveway when it snows. The Taco costs $10k less than the Jeep, has better resale and reliability I know I made the right choice for a manual pickup.
Just wanted to let you know that the Tacoma user manual states you should never use the clutch start cancel for regular everyday starting . Very nice demonstration of its use in gear though!
You might want to check on the resale value:)
@@MrOri already have, :)
@@norsemanix2358 Technically you are right, because there is no resale value yet for the gladiator. But if we look at the wrangler how many years is in the first spot. So....
@@MrOri the resale is better than any Jeep Wrangler, and that's a fact, I don't know wtf are you talking about
@@RagingBad What I was trying to say is that from the wrangler has the best resale value from SUVs, beating the 4Runner. Nobody knows what the resale value is going to be for the Gladiator, because you need five years to see it. So saying that the Taco has a better resale value then the Gladiator it's not true yet. We have to wait and see:) There is no reason to use the F word. We are just talking about trucks.
I bought the Tacoma TRD Offroad for the lower price and the reliability. The Gladiator was my second choice though.
I want a Jeep Gladiator.
Most ppl dont like toyota but i must say i am in love with my tundra drove from Texas to new mexico over 700 miles no problem and very comfortable
I had an 08, gas guzzling, and the front independent suspension wouldn't stay aligned, rear axle bearing failures, and front differential howl/growl TSB which required replacing the front differential due to crap bearings, apparently they continued to use trash bearings for a few years as the rear axle bearing and front differential bearing issues were common up until the 2010 or 2011 model years if I recall. The cam tower oil leaks in the 5.7L V8 were pretty common as well up until 2014 if I recall. Yep, not a Toyota fan much anymore after my 08 Tundra mess...my 05 Tundra however has been problem free for 169k miles.
Hell yes! Appreciate the comparison review. I have a manual wrangler jlu. Eventually want a Gladiator manual. Take it over the Taco any day!
Get a Tacoma, I wish I never even bought Jeep and got a Taco in 207
@@peterjanjanin9883 haha the new Wranglers are pretty good. I haven't had any issues with mines so far. Plus I like that the Gladiator Rubicon comes with solid axles front & rear, front & rear lockers, sway bar disconnect, rock rails, better ground clearance etc.
Three weeks ago did a trail near Minden Ontario but end up on the Anson trail!
My brand new 2021 Tacoma TRD 4X4 was upgraded with Bilstein 6112 front shocks and rear ICON AAL 1.5 with Bilstein 4600 shocks, will upgrade later....
A one hour trail end up in a 16 hour trip.
Took a wrong turn onto the Anson trail. Meet up with two upgraded jeeps on 35 inch tires and lift.
Taco tires: BFG KO2 265/75/16 with only a 1.5 inch lift. Long story short, one jeep had to be pulled through swamps, mud , rocks for 6 hours.
Taco wins!
To truly compare these rigs they’d need the exact same tire setup, otherwise it’s bias for the more aggressive tire rig.
How tall are you? Does you head hit the sunroof drop down headliner?