Babylon 5 - FULL Fight Marcus vs Neroon - And the most IMPORTANT Quote!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Finally someone does it right;)
"I am a Ranger! We walk in the dark places no others will enter. We stand on the bridge, and no one may pass! We live for the One, we die for the One!
At your service:)
S3E17
"To the death- and death there was. The death was mine. To see a Human invoke the name of Valen. To be willing to die for one of my kind when I was intent upon killing one of my own. The rightness of my cause disappeared".
Next time you want a revelation, could you pick something less painful.
That was the most important quote. It wasn’t part of the clip.
"Next time...the next time... you want a revelation...could you possibly find a way that isn't quite so uncomfortable..." ;)
Mimbari humour is based on failure to achieve enlightenment. For Marcus to go through all that and learn nothing is funnier than hell.
This really should be expanded and include the scene in hospital bay between Marcus and Neroon.
Yes that's in the other version a few videos back. The videos get blocked if they get too long. So 2 versions in this case;)
@@JK-Visionsthat must of been “uncomfortable”
Marcus Cole was fantastic; even J.M.S. had to admit killing him off was a mistake.
He was fantastic. But his death made it more dramatic and that was the whole purpose. Although I would have loved him to stay in the series we were blessed with the amount he was in it
J.M.S. said that he killed Marcus off because he wanted Ivanova to carry that sacrifice for the last season; and Claudia killed it in that last scene, no doubt.
But then she decided to leave the show... leaving him up the creek, so to speak. I doesn't matter; it's still the show most likely to make me cry like a little kid.
Franklin meeting himself in Downbelow during his walkabout slays me every time as well... I watch that sequence several times a year.
If it helps, JMS wrote a short story in which Marcus is revived. That's why in the final episode there is an onscreen graphic stating that Marcus is in suspension, not dead. He awakens many years later and introduces himself to a clone of Ivanova. It's called *Space, Time and the Incurable Romantic.*
Jason Carter was Francis Ford Coppola's first pick to play Dracula in BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA; but the studio wanted a bankable name, so Oldman got the part... not that he's a lightweight or anything ;)
Still... would have been great.
I still love the conversation between Marcus and Franklin aboard the freighter bound for Mars, "... Aaaand that's when I shot him, your honor!".
Thanks for posting B5 material.
"You cherish life...but for the greater part to live, some must die or be harmed in its defense..." -Lennier, explaining this burden to Delenn, while Marcus is on the hospital bed after his fight with Neroon.
Thing about Neroon - and all good antagonists in general - is that they have a point. If anyone else but Delenn was in charge of the Rangers it could have gone really bad. Thats why the Vorlons sent Jack to make sure her and Sheriden were the right people.
And you have to admit, down the road Neroon gets more of an arc after and in a weird way a redemption.
@@Warrickomega "I was born Warrior, but in my heart, I am Religious!"
@@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 All of the yes!
Over 20 years old and still a gift to story telling. Marcus was the best. And when I was in the Army and I saw Rangers, it brought me back to this series. I most definitely understand some of its creed.
We live for the One, we die for the One.
I wasn't in the army but my dad who was a medic always told me they would fight for each other. And there was not a substitute in real live for the band of brothers.
Firstly, I *love* the Rangers, because where I see them, I see *Sinclair,* my number one guy.
Secondly, John Vickery is an amazing actor! It's hard to believe Neroon and *Mr Welles* are the same guy!
He is really amazing.
I always confuse him with David Lynch from Twin Peaks and Dune(original movie)
I love Dune (1984) too!
First off I love Neeron. This may be a shade of the dark side of Lennier. He might have said "delay him... try to avoid confronting him directly." But considering Minbari double speak he set Marcus up to die for the greater good here. Now in his mind this would be an acceptable sacrifice, but it did set a precident for that sacrifice not being him. If Lennier killed Neroon and no one saw did a Minbari kill another Minbari?
On the other hand, he does have an Oh-crap reaction when Neroon says that the Rangers would die for Delenn, and immediately rushes off to find Marcus.
My favourite part was "Last chance - I was taught the pike by Durhan himself." "Really? So was I."
I do like that Neroon's interpretation of what Delenn was up to was a plausible interpretation of the facts available to him.
from a certain point of view.
"They would not die for me, But they would die for you E'nthilzah."
Great post! My favorite scene after Londo's confrontation of Morden. . .
I respect your opinion, but: "Because I have asked you. Because your loyalty to our people should be greater than your ambition. And because I have poisoned your drink."
@@aaronmalay5497 Top notch writing and acting throughout. . .
Such a powerful scene!
I LOVE Neroon ❤.
0:11 I love that TV show
Thank you for this, I appreciate seeing this version.
*ahem* sorry I yelled at you, I liked this and am now subscribed.
But I'll be keeping an eye on you so watch your step. 😉
Thank you for your sharp comment. Keep them coming. Using the F stuff is well not so nice but as the chatgpt says it's a way of getting your point across. Have a great day.
Neroon sounds like Weaving's Mr Smith to Neo...inspiration for the Wachoskis?
Could be but I liked their take on it too;)
Shoulda trained at Two Rivers. IYKYK
Lol yeah or 2 shores. Never stay on just one. The other side might just save you in the future.
Nice LOTR reference.
Luke v.s. Darth vader;)
I do wish B5 did not succumb to Star Trek-style fighting - always spin around and turn your back on your opponent. Oh well.
Yeah a bit clumsy at those times. Perhaps it's a style of the times. I think today the scenes are better. Just look at the fights in the acolyte (not counting the story).
It's actually S03E19 - Grey 17 is Missing.
You are correct. It's because of the 17 in the title I think lol.
Fantastic drama, utterly horrible fight choreography. Was Durhan a master of the Present Your Back To Your Enemy style?
This is why I'm simultaneously excited for and terrified of a remake. The technical resources will be there to really transition from a teleplay to a *vision*. But can you really capture the magic of Jason Carter, Mira Furlan, Peter and Andres playing off each other?
I understand, the fight looks a bit like Luke against Darth Vader. They were not as amazing as the later fights in episode 1-3.
@@JK-VisionsDude, it looks like Old Ben -vs- Vader, where Alec Guinness is in his late 60s and David Prowse can't see out of his helmet and is trying very hard to not kill a literal knight of the realm as he waves around a sharp metal stick.
Regardless, so long as J Mike's alive, I can rest easy that any future B9 will at least be the best it can be given the constraints.
Marcus is so much better looking than Kylo Ren.
I think Kylo Ren was a good bad guy. But like Darth Vader they should've have removed his helmet.
Would have loved it if Marcus had kicked his arse but story wise that was never going to happen.
Yeah I think minbari from the warrior cast are almost unbeatable.
Marcus- the most annoying character in the series, mainly due to the actor playing him.
Nah, that'd be byron in s5.
I also think it was Byron. But somehow I don't mind lol.
@@JK-Visions Realizing that I missed most of the fifth season of B5, due to the change from syndication to TBS, I believe.