People take laughter lightly. In this scene, G'Kar exudes bitterness, despair, defiance, barely suppressed rage and scorn, all at the same time. While giggling and laughing, with impeccable comedic timing.
@@gdwnet I'm not sure I can call it madness. G'Kar is the voice of reason in this scene. Londo is the mad one for not seeing how what the Centauri are doing to the Narn has warped everything beyond recognition. Common sense simply no longer applies when the death of any one Centauri at the hand of any one Narn results in wholesale slaughter of the innocent - an injustice as pure and deplorable as can be. Hell, there is more to this scene the more I think about it. Think of how in the face of certain destruction, Londo's only salvation is to jump to G'Kar's side. Think of how Londo may have escaped hellfire in this moment, but much later millions of Centauri willingly enter hellfire (of sorts) in order to exterminate the Shadows on their homeworld. The reckoning does not come yet - but I'll be damned if it isn't foreshadowed in this scene as well. Also how here, G'Kar's refusal to kill Londo is an act of enmity - and that when he finally does kill him, it's an act of friendship.
The fact that even when faced with a rapidly approaching inferno, Londo still looked behind him for literally any hiding place other than an elevator with G'Kar lmao
That was an Emmy worthy performance out of them. The amount of communication done without a word by G'Kar while Londo rants on is incredible. From the first slight nod and giggle, to G'Kar's first words of "two hours" to his final explanation of why he will happily NOT help save them the whole scene is brilliant.
Honestly I can't see Andreas playing it seriously. Especially the line "As the Earthers say: 'Up yours, die!'" Playing that serious would come off as goofy (and not in the comic relief way, in the "wow, that was badly written" way). The sheer delight that G'Kar displays, on the other hand, really makes it work.
JMS's rule was "you can say it however you want to but you can't alter the script in any way." As the lone writer for almost the entire series, and the creator and producer of the series, he had a fair amount of power. However, that ideal worked very well, because it allowed the actors the freedom to act.
Londo, yelling, "Can anyone hear us?!" G'Kar, quietly, "I hear you." Laughs. Londo, yelling louder, "In here!!" G'Kar, even quieter, "We're in here." Laughs even more.
@@marksprague1280 This is exactly the sentence of two characters that we follow in an episode that follows (very good episode that shows the every-day life of the station through the eyes of two workers). But maybe you were quoting that episode ?
G'kar's performance is haunting and spine chilling, when he begins to laugh, after everything that he's gone through at the hands of the Centauri since he was a child, it almost seems like it's the beginning of his final descent into total and complete insanity, brilliant performance by both men. loved this series from beginning to end, I have actually met both men, it was an honour because they were very approachable and very humble men.
Their chemistry is so great. The way they portray their characters and how they grow etc is brilliant too. Watch videos of Peter Jurasik when he talks about Andreas Katsulas, the amount of respect and love he has for his lost friend is amazing to see.
Trapped in an elevator with the man who helped to orchestrate the downfall of your people and delivered brutal terms of surrender on them? And getting to watch them die, too? At this point in his character arc, G'Kar must have been in Narn heaven during that time in the elevator.
Love how at the start G'Kar is smiling a little as Londo starts to grasp the situation and he gets even more giggly as Londo starts to descent in to panic. Because, as he stated, he wants Londo dead and now he just gets to watch him squirm and slowly die. G'Kar has nothing left but vengeance at this point while Londo has everything to loose. Acting of the scene gets praise all the time, for very good reason, but the whole scenario behind the scene just makes it even better.
The humour makes this scene more menacing. I'm laughing my ass off at the scene but that rams home the underlying message that these two hate each other.
I took it as G'Kar pretty much snapping and just wanting to enjoy watching someone suffer who caused him so much pain. For that reason his laughter works perfectly.
They had probably two of the greatest and most complex intertwined character arcs ever written for media. B5 never ever got the love from critics and awards, nor the budget it deserved.
Jonny B Honestly, almost all of the characters got some pretty great arcs. Lennier, Susan, Vir, Stephen, Michael, etc. etc. etc. I had to pull out my box sets and start re-watching this series. Despite the dated CGI, the storytelling is top notch.
Londo and G'Kar are my two favorite characters in this whole series. They both had so much character growth. G'Kar was cast as the obvious villain, where Londo was comedy relief at the start of the series. Yet, G'Kar winds up being the most tragic characters; then goes on to write the very founding documents and morals of the ISA. Londo goes from comedy relief to villain, only to become the tragic hero that gives all just to save his people. Name one series that has that much character grown over its arc.
Don't get me wrong, you are absolutely right! But for the sake of the argument i could say.... A lot of characters in Farscape, The expense kind of hum.... some movies too: willow? Oh boy i'm streched thin lol
I remember when I thought Disney marvel and star wars were good... Then i discovered this show not too long ago. It made me realize that modern Disney has no clue what characters growth and arc is. These 2 are my benchmark and marvel and star wars aren't in the same galaxy when it comes to that
Idk, it seems like Londo and G'Kar are the 2 actual main characters of the series. Londo is the protagonist, G'Kar the antagonist at the outset, and most major developments are a result of their interactions in the very first episode. The killing of the Centauri Emperor, the alliance with the Shadows, the reconquest of Narn by the Centauri, the terrible things the Narn endure all over again, the killing of the second Emperor... The Shadow War relied upon the Centauri-Narn conflict, and the later Centauri invasion of the League. And at the end, it is Londo and G'Kar who are truly changed by the story. Contrast Sheridan who is no different at the end than he was at the start.
@@Kivlor Sheridan is a Christ figure, a moral compass around which all the other characters make their evolution. So it can explain that he does not change to much ... at least on the psychological point of view, becauce his destiny is far beyond the normal human life....
I expected them to follow the typical TV series mould and learn to better understand each other while working together to escape the elevator. You know, like DS9 did with Gul Dukat few times. The scene (being basically episode's B-plot as we come back to it repeatedly) completely pulled the rug out off me. It seriously helped to understand that what Londo did was not a small grievance by a lovable character, but a horrible evil that put a barrier between him and rest of the people on the station.
Londo is basically Dukat done right. No disrespect to the incredible Marc Alaimo, but his character fell from my good graces when he went from freedom fighter to maniacal cult leader.
@@jaqenhghar2970 I disagree, I think Dukat was meant to be an "evil" character, whereas Londo was never evil, just a jaded person who became corrupted by hatred and ambition and his misguided sense of patriotism. Londo had a genuinely compassionate personality at times, and eventually was able to settle his internal demons and realize his mistakes, earning G'Kar's forgiveness. Because at the end of the day, Dukat was cruel for cruelty's sake but Londo was a tortured person who eventually overcame his problems. His sacrifice in season 5 was one of the saddest moments in the whole show.
Babylon 5 had a number of memorable elevator scenes ... one of my favourites was the one when Londo and G'Kar were arguing at/with each other and that guy was between them but wishing not to be there and he slipped into the open elevator when it arrived and they both missed it and said "now look what you made me do" and walked off! :D
It was scenes like this which made B5 truly brilliant. In any Star Trek show we'd have seen rivals settle their differences and get about making the world a better place. Not here. In B5, the characters are messy, petty, and gritty. It is amazing how a character can seem utterly reprehensible in one season, and yet so likeable the next. This was my favourite scene.
I always loved that look on Londo's face at G'kar reminding him of the One Centari=500 Narn lives ruling. Like the dude announced that penalty himself and yet hearing the pain and anger is G'kar's statement almost seemed like he was hearing it for the first time. Like saying it as a stipulation of Narn's surrender and Occupation was just a business dealing to Mollari. That or if ya share a powerful scene like this from the late great Andreas Katsulas then you just cant help but get caught up in the whole drama of the scene either or its is one of my favorite moments up with Vir's talk with Morden and Delenn's speech with the Grey Coucil followed by her saving Babylon 5 later in that same episode
Love these two characters and the actors that portrayed them. They made me truly care about them. From mutual enemies, frenemies to a dynamic duo to a tragic end killing each other in act of mercy and respect.
"As the humans say - up yours! Die!" Love it, love it, love it! - On a totally unrelated note, do you wonder if Steve Carell got some inspiration for his voiceover as Gru in the "Despicable Me" movies from Londo? With the line "So we must work together!" - it took me a while, but I finally was like, 'That reminds me of Steve Carell as Gru!'
The scene cracks me up no matter how many times I seen it. Whole G´Kar - Londo relationship was masterpiece and one of the highlights of Babylon 5 and sci-fi genre
@@InfernosReaper especially at the end of their lives.... one in an act of mercy... one controlled to fight for his life.... And even their final scene together... This show is a master’s template of how to really do a series...
The combat scenes are great in this series but they are totally overshadowed by performances like this. This is what truly made this a great series. I believe this is the best performance of all in the series. Next in line is Vir and Lennier at the bar.
I really can’t comprehend how this scene could have been shot WITHOUT Laughter being a driving force behind it. Yes it was bitter laughter at times, and healing laughter at times, but still, I can’t picture it as being -payed in any other way. What wonderful acting! Gods, I miss this show! But no reboot could succeed without the original cast.
Luckily ( at least I hope it is so ) JMS has no idea of what it's like to live with that kind of trauma day in and day out for years on end. We don't laugh because we're losing our minds. We laugh because the laughter is the last defence.
@@pauldunn5955 learned about living with trauma myself 13 months ago. Eventually the bitterness goes away and even when therapy it’s still with you. Not quite sure if I’ll ever get over it but I keep trying
G'Kar's laugh klils me every time I hear it. It reminds me of Frank Gorshin as the Riddler, who said that he modeled the laugh after Richard Widmark, in a role as a psychopathic killer. Really?
G'Kar is a man trapped with a man who would murder his world he is a man who has accepted the fact that they will die together. why help your enemy, in that case then, since you'll most likely die any way.? G'Kar's laughter clearly shows that.
@@markmayfield2228 It was "die" as I confirmed in the original transcript and also in the subtitles of the official DVD release. HBOMax - where B5 is officially streamed - also has it as *"Up yours, DIE."*
Coming back to this randomly, and I think I saw something in G'Kar's eyes when he saw Lando lying there. A fleeting, visceral desire to help and check on him before he remembered who it was.
This scene was certainly one of the highlights in B5. The whole Londo - G'Kar relationship was brilliant. Both came a long way from the early episodes - really good written and acted character arcs. Unfortunatly this seems like a lost art in modern science-fiction.
It's a lost art in most writing, not just science-fiction. I think it's because many modern writers don't want to write characters with serious flaws or moments of bad judgement. It's like cooking without seasoning... so much of it is bland.
@@tatianalyulkin410 another right winger throwning out a word without understanding and using it as an insult. You do know that one of the main characters was gay on screen, in interspecies marriage and relaionships. What a muppet
Silly child, if it wasn't for the so called Russian Revolution my adoptive parents never would have met! The son of a Ukrainian Jewish oligarch and the daughter of a man who, like Kirk Douglas' father, was selling mended secondhand clothes from a cart. I can't imagine my life without them. But does that justify what the Bolsheviks did? I think not!
Thank you for posting the whole scene as one clip, in a show with a lot of memorable moments that I love, this stands out as one of my favorites, especially G’Kar.
Kinda glad you didn't watch this as a kid. I'd be leery of showing this to anyone under 16 or so (unless I knew the kid personally, anyway). This scene isn't so bad, but there's scenes like Refa's death and Londo's present to Vir later in the series (you'll probably remember them if you've seen the full show) that are honestly kinda fucked up, and I'm not sure I'd trust most kids to understand the context that makes them OK.
I'm glad I saw this as a kid. Back then I was dazzled more by the FX and "cool parts" as such that I didn't really *get* most of the important parts (but, fortunately not missing them all). During the latter half of college, I went back and rewatched the show on DVD and my mind was blown by the intricacies, depth, wisdom, and - of course - razor sharp humor I'd completely missed when I was younger. In a way, I think it made me appreciate these things even more than I would have otherwise.
@@rashkavar I was 14 when I started watching in the 90's and understood it all very well, but then I was an old head on young shoulders, born aged 50, just waiting for the biology to catch up.
@@Nine-Signs Heh, like I said, unless I knew the kid. I know there are kids like that who understand a lot of stuff. I was one of them in some ways. (I was a little on the Vulcan side of understanding - lots of logic, not much emotional maturity.) There's nothing in B5 that I'd actually object to showing to children (aside from Season 5, because I object to subjecting anyone to Season 5 without warning), so I'd be fine with it regardless. Just wouldn't actually recommend it based on "my kid likes sci fi and I want something to put on the TV."
The two best actors in the series, and the two best-developed characters over the years. I get the impression that the writers actually came to like these two characters.
These two actors, without them this show would be not be nearly as could as it was. They worked so well together and with everyone else. Fantastic pair of actors.
I've heard that originally, this scene was to be filmed straight with no G'Kar laughter, but Katsulas improvised the laughter. The filming team was hysterical with laughter by the end of the filming. J.M. Strazinsky wasn't part of filming, so he was worried about what was done until he saw it on film.
Definitely the two actors that made this show amazing. Ivanova had her moments, Bester was the Bestest, but Londo and G’Kar… Oh, wait, I forgot about “be somewhere else.” So many great moments.
I watched most of the episodes of B5 during the original run in the 1990s. I don't remember many plotlines, but for some reason this scene is burned into my memory.
I think what's great about this scene is when G'Kar mentions the terms of the surrender and it startles Mollari even though he's the one who gave the terms and started this whole war (manipulated but he wanted glory so he got it)
@@toomanyaccounts ... and if it all fit - there were zillions of details, backplots and so forth to consider, of which the actors usually knew just a fraction at the time of filming.
@@johnw.3270 there were still things that got cut or altered. take the several different versions of the pilot and the rings that change gravity among other things were just forgotten along with that it took hours for a ship to decelerate when it came from a jump point. plus part of the alien section being an open viewed zoo type thing.
People take laughter lightly. In this scene, G'Kar exudes bitterness, despair, defiance, barely suppressed rage and scorn, all at the same time. While giggling and laughing, with impeccable comedic timing.
It's the laughter of madness. It's actually quite chilling
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"....I hear you....!" HAHAHA!
Oh, simply one of the best scenes in any sci-fi show.
@@gdwnet I'm not sure I can call it madness. G'Kar is the voice of reason in this scene. Londo is the mad one for not seeing how what the Centauri are doing to the Narn has warped everything beyond recognition. Common sense simply no longer applies when the death of any one Centauri at the hand of any one Narn results in wholesale slaughter of the innocent - an injustice as pure and deplorable as can be.
Hell, there is more to this scene the more I think about it. Think of how in the face of certain destruction, Londo's only salvation is to jump to G'Kar's side. Think of how Londo may have escaped hellfire in this moment, but much later millions of Centauri willingly enter hellfire (of sorts) in order to exterminate the Shadows on their homeworld. The reckoning does not come yet - but I'll be damned if it isn't foreshadowed in this scene as well.
Also how here, G'Kar's refusal to kill Londo is an act of enmity - and that when he finally does kill him, it's an act of friendship.
G'Kar wailing "NO!" when they get saved (and thus ensuring Londo lives) was pure gold.
"I hate my life!"
"So do I."
"Shut up!"
Icing on the cake.
😂
G'Kar finally got to experience the happiest last day of his life and it had to be ruined at the last minute....
yeah this episode was a pure gold classic for it's time
It's such a powerful weapon- yet very few have the cajones to use it. " No. " G' Kar and John knew...
4:38 _”I hear you”_ 😂🤣
Shut up!!! 😂😂
"WE'RE IN HERE!"
"we're in here" 😂
When I saw that particular part in that episode I bursted in laughter.
Brilliant writing. Proper brilliant.
I came here for that exact line :-D
@@russellholmes3187 Me too. Funniest scene for me in the whole show.
The fact that even when faced with a rapidly approaching inferno, Londo still looked behind him for literally any hiding place other than an elevator with G'Kar lmao
That was an Emmy worthy performance out of them. The amount of communication done without a word by G'Kar while Londo rants on is incredible. From the first slight nod and giggle, to G'Kar's first words of "two hours" to his final explanation of why he will happily NOT help save them the whole scene is brilliant.
The director expected G'Kar to be serious and intense during this scene, but the laughing worked so brilliantly they kept it.
JMS, not the director.
Honestly I can't see Andreas playing it seriously. Especially the line "As the Earthers say: 'Up yours, die!'" Playing that serious would come off as goofy (and not in the comic relief way, in the "wow, that was badly written" way). The sheer delight that G'Kar displays, on the other hand, really makes it work.
Guy, not die.
JMS's rule was "you can say it however you want to but you can't alter the script in any way." As the lone writer for almost the entire series, and the creator and producer of the series, he had a fair amount of power. However, that ideal worked very well, because it allowed the actors the freedom to act.
@@Niece-vz4zg It is definitely die.
G'Kar's laugh is one of the funniest and most disturbing things to witness.
@Gray Jedi "Not many fishies left in the sea... not many fishies, just Lando and me..."
No shit. In this particular scene the laughter is "Joker" level disturbing...
Came from the Heart tho!
You cant reboot this show. Its perfect.
yeah love old ways as art
True, and I do not trust JMS anymore.
G'kar's 'NO!' When the rescue guys arrived had the power of a thousand 'Oh god damnit's x'D
Londo, yelling, "Can anyone hear us?!"
G'Kar, quietly, "I hear you." Laughs.
Londo, yelling louder, "In here!!"
G'Kar, even quieter, "We're in here." Laughs even more.
That part cracked me up. He was trolling him so epic.
By far my favorite scene of that series. It was such an amazing show with amazingly talented actors. 🤣
It's amazing how expressive Andreas Katsulas could be behind all that masking. One of the best scenes of tv ever.
Massive credit goes to the makeup artists who created it... but yeah, he is totally a Narn.
@@hibbidyjibbidyy With his wonderful voice, in this korona quarantine, yeah so would I.
@@meryatathagres1998 Oh hell yes
He was a fantastic actor
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Gkar: *NOOOOOOO*
"I hate my Life" "So do I"
That was Londo yelling "Shut Up" not the rescue team.
They sound like an old married couple.
@@marksprague1280 This is exactly the sentence of two characters that we follow in an episode that follows (very good episode that shows the every-day life of the station through the eyes of two workers). But maybe you were quoting that episode ?
@@philippes.9571 I know the episode you mean, but I meant Lando and G'Kar overall, particularly later after they reconciled their differences.
G'kar's performance is haunting and spine chilling, when he begins to laugh, after everything that he's gone through at the hands of the Centauri since he was a child, it almost seems like it's the beginning of his final descent into total and complete insanity, brilliant performance by both men. loved this series from beginning to end, I have actually met both men, it was an honour because they were very approachable and very humble men.
Are you related to Mike Hunt?
@tradde11 Peter Jurasik is still very much alive. I've also met both of them and they were both absolute gentlemen.
I would have loved to meet Katsulas before he died. What a iconic actor and performance for G Kar
Personnally , those two were the gem in all characters! And god knows how much i love bab 5 !
And one does,nt need a slide ruler to figure where the madness originated.
Two of the most underrated actors on an underrated series in an underrated genre. Gentlemen, I SALUTE YOU.
Their chemistry is so great. The way they portray their characters and how they grow etc is brilliant too. Watch videos of Peter Jurasik when he talks about Andreas Katsulas, the amount of respect and love he has for his lost friend is amazing to see.
I thought everyone that watched b5 think they are the best actors in the show, who underrate them?
@@garytsang5673 Same
In a series full of great moments and acting, this scene is perhaps the standout.
Trapped in an elevator with the man who helped to orchestrate the downfall of your people and delivered brutal terms of surrender on them? And getting to watch them die, too? At this point in his character arc, G'Kar must have been in Narn heaven during that time in the elevator.
Yep. Me being trapped in an elevator with George Soros or Vicky Nuland. How delicious!
@@tatianalyulkin410 Putin
'Can anyone hear me'
I hear you
I laugh every time, all that rage and still the humor of the man.
G'kar's..."I hear you" and We're in here" are hilarious
"So we must work together." "No" cracks me up every time 😆
"I hear you!" 🤣
That still cracks me up after all these years!
Love how at the start G'Kar is smiling a little as Londo starts to grasp the situation and he gets even more giggly as Londo starts to descent in to panic. Because, as he stated, he wants Londo dead and now he just gets to watch him squirm and slowly die. G'Kar has nothing left but vengeance at this point while Londo has everything to loose. Acting of the scene gets praise all the time, for very good reason, but the whole scenario behind the scene just makes it even better.
Can,t blame g,kar.i felt like this,with the jerks that bullied me in school.
*G’Kar’s* laughter is so infectious... 😂🤣😂🤣
Green two
The humour makes this scene more menacing. I'm laughing my ass off at the scene but that rams home the underlying message that these two hate each other.
I took it as G'Kar pretty much snapping and just wanting to enjoy watching someone suffer who caused him so much pain. For that reason his laughter works perfectly.
They had probably two of the greatest and most complex intertwined character arcs ever written for media. B5 never ever got the love from critics and awards, nor the budget it deserved.
Jonny B Honestly, almost all of the characters got some pretty great arcs. Lennier, Susan, Vir, Stephen, Michael, etc. etc. etc. I had to pull out my box sets and start re-watching this series. Despite the dated CGI, the storytelling is top notch.
To start off with they are 2 sides of the same coin. patriots who serve there countries with all there fibre.
Londo: "I hate my life."
G'Kar: "So do I."
That about sums it up neat and tidy.
'' i hear you '' :D
"we're in here." xD
I laugh at that every single time. Too funny.
4:38 I hope this brings y’all back to enjoy the scene again 😉😘🥰
Londo and G'Kar are my two favorite characters in this whole series. They both had so much character growth. G'Kar was cast as the obvious villain, where Londo was comedy relief at the start of the series. Yet, G'Kar winds up being the most tragic characters; then goes on to write the very founding documents and morals of the ISA. Londo goes from comedy relief to villain, only to become the tragic hero that gives all just to save his people. Name one series that has that much character grown over its arc.
Don't get me wrong, you are absolutely right! But for the sake of the argument i could say.... A lot of characters in Farscape, The expense kind of hum.... some movies too: willow? Oh boy i'm streched thin lol
@@cedo3333 The Stargate franchise is up there too!
I remember when I thought Disney marvel and star wars were good... Then i discovered this show not too long ago. It made me realize that modern Disney has no clue what characters growth and arc is. These 2 are my benchmark and marvel and star wars aren't in the same galaxy when it comes to that
Idk, it seems like Londo and G'Kar are the 2 actual main characters of the series. Londo is the protagonist, G'Kar the antagonist at the outset, and most major developments are a result of their interactions in the very first episode. The killing of the Centauri Emperor, the alliance with the Shadows, the reconquest of Narn by the Centauri, the terrible things the Narn endure all over again, the killing of the second Emperor... The Shadow War relied upon the Centauri-Narn conflict, and the later Centauri invasion of the League. And at the end, it is Londo and G'Kar who are truly changed by the story. Contrast Sheridan who is no different at the end than he was at the start.
@@Kivlor Sheridan is a Christ figure, a moral compass around which all the other characters make their evolution. So it can explain that he does not change to much ... at least on the psychological point of view, becauce his destiny is far beyond the normal human life....
GOD!! I LOVE these two when they are together!!
G'Kar or Londo "We don't!"
I love how G'Kar just nods. Just a brilliant actor.
The simple "No" is terrifying. He knew that if they didnt work together they would die painfully and G'kar still said no. It should make tou think
G'kar always expected he'd die painfully, probably because of a Centauri. So did Londo, at the hands of a Narn.
They were both right.
I expected them to follow the typical TV series mould and learn to better understand each other while working together to escape the elevator. You know, like DS9 did with Gul Dukat few times. The scene (being basically episode's B-plot as we come back to it repeatedly) completely pulled the rug out off me. It seriously helped to understand that what Londo did was not a small grievance by a lovable character, but a horrible evil that put a barrier between him and rest of the people on the station.
Londo is basically Dukat done right. No disrespect to the incredible Marc Alaimo, but his character fell from my good graces when he went from freedom fighter to maniacal cult leader.
@@jaqenhghar2970 I disagree, I think Dukat was meant to be an "evil" character, whereas Londo was never evil, just a jaded person who became corrupted by hatred and ambition and his misguided sense of patriotism. Londo had a genuinely compassionate personality at times, and eventually was able to settle his internal demons and realize his mistakes, earning G'Kar's forgiveness. Because at the end of the day, Dukat was cruel for cruelty's sake but Londo was a tortured person who eventually overcame his problems. His sacrifice in season 5 was one of the saddest moments in the whole show.
There are no coincidences. These two were destined to cross each other's paths in many ways.
They were closer than brothers.
Babylon 5 had a number of memorable elevator scenes ... one of my favourites was the one when Londo and G'Kar were arguing at/with each other and that guy was between them but wishing not to be there and he slipped into the open elevator when it arrived and they both missed it and said "now look what you made me do" and walked off! :D
The doors being hot to the touch was a great touch.
Great work. Peace
It was scenes like this which made B5 truly brilliant. In any Star Trek show we'd have seen rivals settle their differences and get about making the world a better place. Not here. In B5, the characters are messy, petty, and gritty. It is amazing how a character can seem utterly reprehensible in one season, and yet so likeable the next. This was my favourite scene.
Star Trek was always an optimistic franchise--although DS9 tried to deconstruct it somewhat.
@@Desmaad That's why I loved both shows.
Apparently you have never seen Deep Space 9.
It's because B5 is more like real life...
But in the end they did kind of settle their differences but not till end of series
Never saw G'Kar happier than he was here, or sadder when they were saved. Andreas Katsulas. RIP, sir.
They worked so well off each other. I loved every scene involving Londo and G'kar.
One of the best shows - EVER.
I totally agree
I love this, G'kar cackling 🤣🤣🤣
I always loved that look on Londo's face at G'kar reminding him of the One Centari=500 Narn lives ruling. Like the dude announced that penalty himself and yet hearing the pain and anger is G'kar's statement almost seemed like he was hearing it for the first time. Like saying it as a stipulation of Narn's surrender and Occupation was just a business dealing to Mollari. That or if ya share a powerful scene like this from the late great Andreas Katsulas then you just cant help but get caught up in the whole drama of the scene either or its is one of my favorite moments up with Vir's talk with Morden and Delenn's speech with the Grey Coucil followed by her saving Babylon 5 later in that same episode
as the humans say up yours die!!🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, that's an: "...oops."
These two actors had great chemistry. I would loved to have seen then do a production of the Odd Couple.
. . . as G'Kar and Mollari :D
This was the odd couple, but in space...
Love these two characters and the actors that portrayed them. They made me truly care about them. From mutual enemies, frenemies to a dynamic duo to a tragic end killing each other in act of mercy and respect.
G'Kar's schadenfreude is legendary in this one.
Iconic scene for the series.....
"As the humans say - up yours! Die!" Love it, love it, love it! - On a totally unrelated note, do you wonder if Steve Carell got some inspiration for his voiceover as Gru in the "Despicable Me" movies from Londo? With the line "So we must work together!" - it took me a while, but I finally was like, 'That reminds me of Steve Carell as Gru!'
Two fantastic actors, with great chemistry. I so loved seeing them work together. RIP...
Ahhh 2018 and this still cracks me up.
it's 2020, we are all stuck in a lift and everything outside it is on fire.
2020😂😂😂
2024 and Donbass is still standing.
"NOOOO"
I love this part
"It is an imperfect universe."
"I hear you ... we're in here."😂
The scene cracks me up no matter how many times I seen it. Whole G´Kar - Londo relationship was masterpiece and one of the highlights of Babylon 5 and sci-fi genre
The quality of Babylon 5 could be variable but Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas were utterly peerless.
I got chills watching the first scene, 3 seasons of friendship and rivalry clash in a few seconds
Not really friendship... That came later
@@InfernosReaper especially at the end of their lives.... one in an act of mercy... one controlled to fight for his life....
And even their final scene together...
This show is a master’s template of how to really do a series...
This scene is pure gold . G'Kar seemingly going more unhinged while Londo rants . The interplay and insults between them are brilliant .
Easily the best scene featuring those two. My favourite by far.
One of the greatest scenes in the series! 🤣
The combat scenes are great in this series but they are totally overshadowed by performances like this. This is what truly made this a great series. I believe this is the best performance of all in the series. Next in line is Vir and Lennier at the bar.
Flounder and Will Robinson =)
When I first heard it, I thought it was based on Garibaldi's love of WB cartoons, which he probably showed to G'kar. Updated to 2260, "Up yours, Doc!"
Oh, now you got me thinking that was a missed opportunity: Garibaldi's Cartoon Marathon with each of the B5 ambassadors.
I really can’t comprehend how this scene could have been shot WITHOUT Laughter being a driving force behind it. Yes it was bitter laughter at times, and healing laughter at times, but still, I can’t picture it as being -payed in any other way. What wonderful acting! Gods, I miss this show! But no reboot could succeed without the original cast.
Luckily ( at least I hope it is so ) JMS has no idea of what it's like to live with that kind of trauma day in and day out for years on end. We don't laugh because we're losing our minds. We laugh because the laughter is the last defence.
@@tatianalyulkin410 Outch i guess i know where you are from.... i'm sorry
Don't you dare! NO REBOOT! just watch it again that's just a perfect show.
@@tatianalyulkin410 Please find/read Becoming Superman. He does know about living trauma day after day. Incredible autobio.
@@pauldunn5955 learned about living with trauma myself 13 months ago. Eventually the bitterness goes away and even when therapy it’s still with you. Not quite sure if I’ll ever get over it but I keep trying
The evolution of these two characters from hatred to understanding and trust is inspiring.
G'Kar's laugh klils me every time I hear it. It reminds me of Frank Gorshin as the Riddler, who said that he modeled the laugh after Richard Widmark, in a role as a psychopathic killer. Really?
G'Kar is a man trapped with a man who would murder his world
he is a man who has accepted the fact that they will die together.
why help your enemy, in that case then, since you'll most likely die any way.?
G'Kar's laughter clearly shows that.
One of the best exchanges:
"I hate my life"
"So do I"
"Shut up!"
And this is why the reboot will likely fail. You can't replace these brilliant and amazing actors
Hey, the fishes song from Season 1 returns!
Andreas said more with a nod and a shake of his head, than a thousand words could ever have conveyed.
I am posting in 2020, and America is this elevator scene.
Vaccine arrives. Introverts: “No!!” In G’Kar.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon Pretty much. We were so close to blessed solitude...!
2024- and I still visualize being trapped in an elevator with Vicky Nudelman.
"As the humans say, 'Up yours, guy.'" Love that line.
I believe he said, "Up yours, die." Brilliant line, nonetheless.
@@jaqenhghar2970 It was, "guy:" He was channeling the '70s. Always has me rolling.
@@markmayfield2228 It was "die" as I confirmed in the original transcript and also in the subtitles of the official DVD release. HBOMax - where B5 is officially streamed - also has it as *"Up yours, DIE."*
And yet you can almost see the beginning of the bond they forged later on developing.
Coming back to this randomly, and I think I saw something in G'Kar's eyes when he saw Lando lying there. A fleeting, visceral desire to help and check on him before he remembered who it was.
I guess G'Kar failed as a monster. It's perfectly all right- I failed too. Oh, well...
This scene was certainly one of the highlights in B5. The whole Londo - G'Kar relationship was brilliant. Both came a long way from the early episodes - really good written and acted character arcs. Unfortunatly this seems like a lost art in modern science-fiction.
It's a lost art in most writing, not just science-fiction. I think it's because many modern writers don't want to write characters with serious flaws or moments of bad judgement. It's like cooking without seasoning... so much of it is bland.
Well, that's what you get when you go Woke. You lose all the shades of gray.
@@tatianalyulkin410 another right winger throwning out a word without understanding and using it as an insult. You do know that one of the main characters was gay on screen, in interspecies marriage and relaionships. What a muppet
"somehow, palpatine returned".
Sadly, I agree.
Silly child, if it wasn't for the so called Russian Revolution my adoptive parents never would have met! The son of a Ukrainian Jewish oligarch and the daughter of a man who, like Kirk Douglas' father, was selling mended secondhand clothes from a cart. I can't imagine my life without them. But does that justify what the Bolsheviks did? I think not!
One of the best scenes of the entire series... and boy there were a few.
2020 anyone?
2024.
This show is timeless.
This show is a documentary.
Thank you for posting the whole scene as one clip, in a show with a lot of memorable moments that I love, this stands out as one of my favorites, especially G’Kar.
Fantastic, as whole series.
omg its 5am and my laughing woke up the whole house. Why did I not watch this show as a kid? 7 of 9 was a trick.
Kinda glad you didn't watch this as a kid. I'd be leery of showing this to anyone under 16 or so (unless I knew the kid personally, anyway). This scene isn't so bad, but there's scenes like Refa's death and Londo's present to Vir later in the series (you'll probably remember them if you've seen the full show) that are honestly kinda fucked up, and I'm not sure I'd trust most kids to understand the context that makes them OK.
@@rashkavar I watched as a kid. Well, I think I was in the double digits then, but not by much. It was fine.
I'm glad I saw this as a kid. Back then I was dazzled more by the FX and "cool parts" as such that I didn't really *get* most of the important parts (but, fortunately not missing them all). During the latter half of college, I went back and rewatched the show on DVD and my mind was blown by the intricacies, depth, wisdom, and - of course - razor sharp humor I'd completely missed when I was younger. In a way, I think it made me appreciate these things even more than I would have otherwise.
@@rashkavar I was 14 when I started watching in the 90's and understood it all very well, but then I was an old head on young shoulders, born aged 50, just waiting for the biology to catch up.
@@Nine-Signs Heh, like I said, unless I knew the kid. I know there are kids like that who understand a lot of stuff. I was one of them in some ways. (I was a little on the Vulcan side of understanding - lots of logic, not much emotional maturity.) There's nothing in B5 that I'd actually object to showing to children (aside from Season 5, because I object to subjecting anyone to Season 5 without warning), so I'd be fine with it regardless. Just wouldn't actually recommend it based on "my kid likes sci fi and I want something to put on the TV."
G'Kar's manic glee is just so good, he got exactly what he wanted and he couldn't be happier.
fantastic scene
The two best actors in the series, and the two best-developed characters over the years. I get the impression that the writers actually came to like these two characters.
I love G'Kar.
This was so perfect!
"I hear you" *giggle giggle giggle*
My cat appears to have a crush on Peter Jurasic. When Lando started shouting she starting rubbing against the screen
Holy FUCK, the acting talent displayed here is off-the-chain.
These two actors, without them this show would be not be nearly as could as it was. They worked so well together and with everyone else. Fantastic pair of actors.
I've heard that originally, this scene was to be filmed straight with no G'Kar laughter, but Katsulas improvised the laughter. The filming team was hysterical with laughter by the end of the filming. J.M. Strazinsky wasn't part of filming, so he was worried about what was done until he saw it on film.
Londo: sighs I hate my life
g'kar: so do I
Londo: shut up
😂😂😂
"I would much rather see you dead!"
My only hope is I live long enough to see you dead
I loved this scene!!!
One of favorite scenes
This scene and his toast to londo made G'kar one of my all time favorite chracters
Definitely the two actors that made this show amazing.
Ivanova had her moments, Bester was the Bestest, but Londo and G’Kar…
Oh, wait, I forgot about “be somewhere else.”
So many great moments.
“Fanatic!”
“You’re insane!”
“That’s why we’ll win.”
A dialogue between Taliban fighter and the US soldier.
I watched most of the episodes of B5 during the original run in the 1990s. I don't remember many plotlines, but for some reason this scene is burned into my memory.
not many fishies left in the sea
Londo and G'Kar eventually team up in their travel to Centauri Prime. 😂
Babylon 5 ... the show where so many elevator scenes reveals the truth!
Very funny scene, Londo trying to be practical and G'Kar taking a cheese grater to Londo's nerves!!
I think what's great about this scene is when G'Kar mentions the terms of the surrender and it startles Mollari even though he's the one who gave the terms and started this whole war (manipulated but he wanted glory so he got it)
one of the best episodes
definitely the funniest sequence in the whole show A*
Some of the best improvisation in television ever. Also first comment.
No improv. The entire scene is word-for-word from the script. The tone was shifted by Jurassik and Katulas.
Straczyski took a pretty hard line against improvisation for this series.
@@Desmaad however if the actor made a good argument he would allow the change.
@@toomanyaccounts ... and if it all fit - there were zillions of details, backplots and so forth to consider, of which the actors usually knew just a fraction at the time of filming.
@@johnw.3270 there were still things that got cut or altered. take the several different versions of the pilot and the rings that change gravity among other things were just forgotten along with that it took hours for a ship to decelerate when it came from a jump point. plus part of the alien section being an open viewed zoo type thing.
I love this scene, G'kar perfectly displays his hatred for the Centauri and doesnt have to do anything but watch.
what an incredibly amazing scene.