Great vid Ben. I compared this lens side by side with the new Voigtlander 75 f/1.5. Although the 7artisans is an enjoyable lens to shoot, I end up keeping the Voigtlander for being more consistent. The video is still available on my channel
I have the TTA 50mm f0.95, 7A 75mm f1.25 and TTA 90mm f1.25, all for my SL. I prefer 50 summicron, 75 summarit and 90 summicron for my M10P. All about the smaller lenses on the rangefinder and brilliant EVF on the SL for faster apertures
Optimistic review :). I have played with this lens on an M9 for about a week , in my experience it's hopelessly soft and useless for portraits when it's wide open... and I wonder why would you buy a F1.2 lens if you can only use it from 2.8 ? I hope that the Artisans will next focus on a 50mm F2.0 ( a cheap little "cron" ). Cheers !
Ben, I also have a 90 Summicron and picked up one of these 75's to use. I found that what you said is right on but, and there is always a but I now only use it on my Sigma fp so I can focus it properly. It took me a couple of months before I started to be able to hit focus on a reg basis with it wide open and the other thing is at six feet and further I am having great luck. But that distance from 3ft to 6ft wide open is a no go region if you want sharpness
People really are sleeping on 7artisans M Mount lenses. I got the 28mm 1.4 and love it but it's just too big and heavy for everyday use. If you're doing photography as a hobby, 7artisans are awesome.
Can you just imagine if either the bride or the groom were photographers and knew that you were testing this particular lens (which from a distance looks like the real Noctilux 75mm) to photograph their once in a lifetime event, they would probably have had a heart attack 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 OMG!!! As I type this and simultaneously hear you talk about this lens that you would ‘definitely consider using as an auxiliary piece when needed’, a lens that ‘would work in a pinch’ that you get a ‘more unique and distinct look out of it’…….I really can’t stop laughing especially at the part where you yourself got a laugh out of it. I actually bought this lens yesterday at B&H in the Used Department for exactly $400 after taxes. It was rated as a 9+ Then I put it on the Nikon Z9 with the Novoflex adapter and took a few shots as it was getting a bit dark outside around 7:30pm. At home I took some photos and at 1.25 there was a weird hazy type glow so I knew this was a poor man’s Noctilux. Debating whether I should just keep it for fun or return it. Will fully test it outdoors during the day tomorrow so I can have a better idea. It does look pretty cool on the Z9, makes the camera more compact. I’m definitely getting the Leica Noctilux 75mm f1.25 when it becomes available again at B&H. I don’t like the handling of the Leica SL3 which is why I feel the Leica M lenses have a better home on the Nikon Z9. Your video review was DEFINITELY helpful, thanks for uploading
You should trade your 90 for the 75 APO Summicron or try it. Closer focusing distance and a tad easier to focus on the rangefinder. Plus you can shoot it at f2 all day long. Now focusing is still hard to me on my M10-P and it didn't't get much use until I recently picked up an SL2-S and it's magic. So much better to focus on a SL and the SL will work better with M lenses than Canon etc. Now to contradict myself I find myself considering selling my 75 M for a 75 APO SL lens. first world problems lol...:)
Have you thought of the 75mm APO F2 if you want to stay in the Leica family? I use that as my primary portrait lens and its a lot cheaper than an old 75mm Summilux or Noctilux.
Hi Benj. Any chance trying this one on a gfx? Im looking for a 58mm fullframe equivalent and Im eyeing to see if the vignetting of this lens can be corrected in post. Thank you.
I bought this lens after viewing this and other reviews and i have really enjoyed using it,,,,,,,,,,maybe i was just lucky but i have sharp eyes at f1.25 and lovely bokeh with my copy.......there is a video on youtube that says its based on a 1940.s biotar tele but with modern coatings which does make sense. I do own a 50mm summicrom V5 and the TT artisans 50mm f0.95 which are clearly sharper at every aperture but i honestly believe the 7 artisans 75mm f1.25 is a valid and enjoyable lens in actual use,especially with people images.
@@benjhaisch Not yet, Benj. It could as well be. My major concern with it that It seem a bit cooler than original glass to my tastes, more akin Sigma behaviour on a Nikon...
I have two SL2S bodies my kit is 105mm sigma macro 85mm sigma 1.4 Lumix 50mm 1.4 Leica 50mm 2.4 Summarit and the Leica 24-70 2.8 for fun should I consider this or the TtArtisians? I know we don’t always agree but I respect your gangster
I would love to see a comparison between Leica Noctilux, Voigtländer Nokton and 7a creature. It would be a battle between hedonist, practical and wild desire))
Thanks for the review of the lens. I love to have a 70ish mm lens at 1.4 or smaller to use on both a M and a Z7 camera that is great lens as my main lens. I like your wedding photographs, nice job. I wonder if the bride and groom will like the images with a mask in 20 years?
Thanks for your review. I wonder how Voigtlander 75 f/1.5 would compare. Twice the price of 7artisans, but still fractions in comparison to the Leica counterpart.
@@benjhaisch Yes I am actually very impressed with it overall. Even with the unforgiving resolution of the M10-R I'm finding focus to be spot on throughout the range. Hope you get a copy to do a thorough review/test. Enjoying your videos!
Benj, First, I have to say beautiful images from your January wedding. Any client would be delighted with the result. Shame that so much PP was necessary to achieve the look. Second, perhaps you need an original SL (601) for fast glass. They never need RF adjustment! Maybe an SL2-S is your perfect camera? Thirdly, (you knew it was coming) I would watch you review plastic dog excrement. The end.
@@benjhaisch interesting! Pity you didn't do a review on it before selling - there's not much good info you can find on YT about the 90 f/2 I believe )= am considering it as a compact tele for the M3 as well as to be a manual alternative for the E-Mount Batis 85 f/1.8 Voigtlander seems to be a solid brand, Zeiss lenses (E-Mount manual Loxia line and most probably Batis line as well) are produced in the same Cosina Japan factories (Cosina owns Voigtlander). I just got a Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 M-Mount, to be adapted to our Sony a7S III mainly - but the built quality and handling is great! The image is also nice to balance out the clinical digital look :D
But, how does it preform on film? My pre-ASPH 35 Summilux renders beautifully on film, but looks hazy on digital, but my Voigtlander 35 Nokton MC is tack sharp on digital.
Cheaper, yes - but the imagery it produces will not quite be what is expected of a modern wedding photographer. Every photo does not have to be at F1.25 or filled with out of focus Christmas lights. For the enthusiast this lens is a gift to create special, old world images. The clues are in Its design.
Great vid Ben. I compared this lens side by side with the new Voigtlander 75 f/1.5. Although the 7artisans is an enjoyable lens to shoot, I end up keeping the Voigtlander for being more consistent. The video is still available on my channel
Thats what i found, the glow at 1.25 - 2 can be edited away with the dehaze revealing quite a bit of detail.
I have the TTA 50mm f0.95, 7A 75mm f1.25 and TTA 90mm f1.25, all for my SL. I prefer 50 summicron, 75 summarit and 90 summicron for my M10P. All about the smaller lenses on the rangefinder and brilliant EVF on the SL for faster apertures
Optimistic review :). I have played with this lens on an M9 for about a week , in my experience it's hopelessly soft and useless for portraits when it's wide open... and I wonder why would you buy a F1.2 lens if you can only use it from 2.8 ? I hope that the Artisans will next focus on a 50mm F2.0 ( a cheap little "cron" ). Cheers !
Benj is a bokeh snob, Benj is a bokeh snob 😘😉 love your work and vids! Thanks for sharing your expertise with us !!! 😊 Greetings from Belgium
Ben, I also have a 90 Summicron and picked up one of these 75's to use. I found that what you said is right on but, and there is always a but I now only use it on my Sigma fp so I can focus it properly. It took me a couple of months before I started to be able to hit focus on a reg basis with it wide open and the other thing is at six feet and further I am having great luck. But that distance from 3ft to 6ft wide open is a no go region if you want sharpness
Love the honesty in this review. Might not be a great lens but definitely lots of nice sample pics.
People really are sleeping on 7artisans M Mount lenses. I got the 28mm 1.4 and love it but it's just too big and heavy for everyday use. If you're doing photography as a hobby, 7artisans are awesome.
I was just reading about the TTartisans 85mm f0.95 to adapt to my Z6.
They have an 85 f0.95?
@@nelsonongteleng2789 You should def try it on the Z9
Can you just imagine if either the bride or the groom were photographers and knew that you were testing this particular lens (which from a distance looks like the real Noctilux 75mm) to photograph their once in a lifetime event, they would probably have had a heart attack 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 OMG!!! As I type this and simultaneously hear you talk about this lens that you would ‘definitely consider using as an auxiliary piece when needed’, a lens that ‘would work in a pinch’ that you get a ‘more unique and distinct look out of it’…….I really can’t stop laughing especially at the part where you yourself got a laugh out of it. I actually bought this lens yesterday at B&H in the Used Department for exactly $400 after taxes. It was rated as a 9+ Then I put it on the Nikon Z9 with the Novoflex adapter and took a few shots as it was getting a bit dark outside around 7:30pm. At home I took some photos and at 1.25 there was a weird hazy type glow so I knew this was a poor man’s Noctilux. Debating whether I should just keep it for fun or return it. Will fully test it outdoors during the day tomorrow so I can have a better idea. It does look pretty cool on the Z9, makes the camera more compact. I’m definitely getting the Leica Noctilux 75mm f1.25 when it becomes available again at B&H. I don’t like the handling of the Leica SL3 which is why I feel the Leica M lenses have a better home on the Nikon Z9. Your video review was DEFINITELY helpful, thanks for uploading
You should trade your 90 for the 75 APO Summicron or try it. Closer focusing distance and a tad easier to focus on the rangefinder. Plus you can shoot it at f2 all day long. Now focusing is still hard to me on my M10-P and it didn't't get much use until I recently picked up an SL2-S and it's magic. So much better to focus on a SL and the SL will work better with M lenses than Canon etc. Now to contradict myself I find myself considering selling my 75 M for a 75 APO SL lens. first world problems lol...:)
Never thought about adapting M glass to EOS R. I have to try it.
Benj, How is the view finder blockage with this big lens? Any chance you may be doing a review of the TTArtisan 90mm 1.25 in the near future? Thanks
Where did you buy your camera strap? Which option did you select? Please let me know.
Have you thought of the 75mm APO F2 if you want to stay in the Leica family? I use that as my primary portrait lens and its a lot cheaper than an old 75mm Summilux or Noctilux.
$$$$$$ haha that’s the only real issue
I loved your canon 85mm stitched photos. Would love to see a tutorial on how you make those and edit them!
Hi Benj. Any chance trying this one on a gfx? Im looking for a 58mm fullframe equivalent and Im eyeing to see if the vignetting of this lens can be corrected in post. Thank you.
You like this one better than TTArtisan 90mm f1.2? Any experience comparing?
I bought this lens after viewing this and other reviews and i have really enjoyed using it,,,,,,,,,,maybe i was just lucky but i have sharp eyes at f1.25 and lovely bokeh with my copy.......there is a video on youtube that says its based on a 1940.s biotar tele but with modern coatings which does make sense.
I do own a 50mm summicrom V5 and the TT artisans 50mm f0.95 which are clearly sharper at every aperture but i honestly believe the 7 artisans 75mm f1.25 is a valid and enjoyable lens in actual use,especially with people images.
I can see that! It’s still a fun lens for sure, my copy was just very soft :)
Have you looked at the Voigtlander 75mm f/1.5 Nokton? Curious about how that stacks up
Cosina is very impressive. It is significantly sharper with less chroma wide open, but a bit less so than a nocti...
Do you have it, Alex? I’ve heard lots of stories of focus shift issues...
@@benjhaisch Not yet, Benj. It could as well be. My major concern with it that It seem a bit cooler than original glass to my tastes, more akin Sigma behaviour on a Nikon...
Thank God there is A company making cheaper m Mount lenses than Leica. It helps keep you in M system but also great for Adapting to Sony mount
Strange question, but I need this info for anamorphic diy setup. You can tell me please, what dimension (diagonally? Have front glass? 🙏 please
I have two SL2S bodies my kit is 105mm sigma macro 85mm sigma 1.4 Lumix 50mm 1.4 Leica 50mm 2.4 Summarit and the Leica 24-70 2.8 for fun should I consider this or the TtArtisians? I know we don’t always agree but I respect your gangster
The TTArtisan 90/1.25 is absolutely fantastic and a much better lens in terms of IQ and sharpness if that’s what’s important to you.
I would love to see a comparison between Leica Noctilux, Voigtländer Nokton and 7a creature. It would be a battle between hedonist, practical and wild desire))
Thanks for the review of the lens. I love to have a 70ish mm lens at 1.4 or smaller to use on both a M and a Z7 camera that is great lens as my main lens. I like your wedding photographs, nice job. I wonder if the bride and groom will like the images with a mask in 20 years?
They’re medical doctors, so my assumption would be, “yes”
Thanks for your review. I wonder how Voigtlander 75 f/1.5 would compare. Twice the price of 7artisans, but still fractions in comparison to the Leica counterpart.
I’ve tried requesting a sample copy from Voigtlander :)
It’s pretty sharp wide open even on the M10-R.
Do you find rangefinder focusing to be accurate throughout the focus range?
@@benjhaisch Yes I am actually very impressed with it overall. Even with the unforgiving resolution of the M10-R I'm finding focus to be spot on throughout the range. Hope you get a copy to do a thorough review/test. Enjoying your videos!
Didi you find yourself using the evf/lcd or rangefinder when shooting at f1.25?
Benj,
First, I have to say beautiful images from your January wedding. Any client would be delighted with the result. Shame that so much PP was necessary to achieve the look. Second, perhaps you need an original SL (601) for fast glass. They never need RF adjustment! Maybe an SL2-S is your perfect camera? Thirdly, (you knew it was coming) I would watch you review plastic dog excrement. The end.
Nothing wrong with a bit of softness
Heya! Sooo ... which would you pick more often - this or Summicron 90?
I sold the 90 and kept this one... mainly because of the price difference and how little I used the 90.
I’m trying to get ahold of the Voigtlander 75/1.5 though. Might be a good compromise
@@benjhaisch interesting! Pity you didn't do a review on it before selling - there's not much good info you can find on YT about the 90 f/2 I believe )= am considering it as a compact tele for the M3 as well as to be a manual alternative for the E-Mount Batis 85 f/1.8
Voigtlander seems to be a solid brand, Zeiss lenses (E-Mount manual Loxia line and most probably Batis line as well) are produced in the same Cosina Japan factories (Cosina owns Voigtlander).
I just got a Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 M-Mount, to be adapted to our Sony a7S III mainly - but the built quality and handling is great! The image is also nice to balance out the clinical digital look :D
But, how does it preform on film?
My pre-ASPH 35 Summilux renders beautifully on film, but looks hazy on digital, but my Voigtlander 35 Nokton MC is tack sharp on digital.
Yes, it does lack sharpness at f/1.4, but better at f/2.8 and above. Size and weight are excellent for traveling.
I like my 7a noctilux lens and the price is great vs a second mortgage for the Leica.
TTartisans Bugetilux 75mm Star Wars Ghost Edition. 😂
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Cheaper, yes - but the imagery it produces will not quite be what is expected of a modern wedding photographer. Every photo does not have to be at F1.25 or filled with out of focus Christmas lights. For the enthusiast this lens is a gift to create special, old world images. The clues are in Its design.
Have you tried the Leica APO 75 f2 Summicron?
I have not, it’s out of my price range :)
Hey at least the shipping is free on that Noctilux
15k is a 2nd hand cine lens cost..I’m about to buy into Leica buy even if I had the money I still wouldn’t buy a 15k lens. Madness
Jedi force ghost! haha 😂
But...but...but, it’s only pennies a day! 😇
Easy choice. Keep the Leica 90. Sell the 7Artisans.
I ended up doing the opposite... ;)
What’s the point of buying Leica than cannot afford to buy any Leica lens?
Haha do you have $21,000 for a single body/lens combo? I sure don’t.
You are a down to earth snob