Thanks Nick, much appreciated. Struggling to choose between the two Noctilux's 75mm or 50mm, as you've rightly highlighted both the 50 and 75 are unique, they have their own individual unique rendering signature. Cannot wait for the new "M11" to be released so can take these lens out on a test run, after hearing how the SL2 can be paired beautifully with ease, will definitely trial it too before deciding on making the purchase for the new body and lens. I had trialed the M10p with the 28mm Summilux when it was newly released a few years ago, although ever since fallen in love with the M but wasn't satisfied at the time, and decided to hold off until the next major upgrade came along. Personally I think you have to actually hold the M rangefinder in your hands to appreciate the wonders of it, and take it on a test run than only one can truly appreciate that Leica magic and connection you'd feel whilst capturing the moments. It isn't something one can express through words merely rather need to go on a journey yourself. On another note; watched all your recent episodes and tutorials, and always look forward to the next post. Enjoyed the last episode with the Master of the Lens himself. Thanks for everything and sharing your wisdom with us. (Lancashire -UK)
Great presentation, Nick, and some wonderful photographs also. You’ve really shown how the Noctilux 75mm is a truly extraordinary lens. I’m not sure if I could ever justify dropping a lazy AUD$19k on it, but I’m glad it exists and someone else can afford to make such photos. Thanks.
Hello Nick. Fabulous video, thank you. Having just stepped into the world of Leica M I found this fascinating. I think this lens will be out of my range for quite some time to come but your narrative on your exceptional photos really helps understand how to use a Leica M to maximise effect.
Thanks very much for your very informative video on the 75mm leica lens. Very enjoyable video and lovely images I just bought a SL2 which I been saving up for years to buy a Leica thanks
Nick, this review is the best lens review that I’ve ever watched. I’m was so hyped to purchase this lens after watching your video that I lost sleep thinking about owning the 75 Noctilux 1.25. But before I pull the trigger may I please ask you a couple of questions? While this lens has its own unique glow and signature - is the 75 APO f2 still a viable option to this monstrosity? How comfortable was this on an M body, and for how long? Nick, I am a confessed Bokeh addict. And this lens would certainly feed my addiction. But if it’s just too big and bulky, then over time I would use it less and less I suspect. And I believe that this lens is more niche than the Leica M itself. I appreciate what you provide to the professional and enthusiast photographers alike. Thank you,
The 75mm APO-Summicron-M is a viable alternative but it is simply not as astonishingly sharp as the Noctilux, even if is it a lot smaller. it is also an older design and does not have the strong focus and contrast fall-off that makes the Nocti so three dimensional. The 75mm Noctilux works just fine on the M10 and M11, but I would strongly recommend the Visoflex EVF so you can more easily nail critical focus. it also works superbly on the SL cameras,
Hard time to find great gear. Preordered the 75 Noctilux 1.25. Expected to arrive in June. Still waiting for the M11. And have also decided to purchase the 50 Noctilux 1.2 exclusively for my M9. Thanks Nick. Be Blessed,
Nick, a great video and summary of the capabilities of the Noctilux. Are you using the Visoflex for those rodeo shots? They are stunning - a pleasure to see this kind of video with great work to accompany it.
I have both the 50mm and the 75mm Noctilux lenses. I have only one camera, the 24 megapixel M10. About 95% of my photos are 'street' photographs. Except when I'm working in 'close quarters' - like a coffee shop or restaurant - I prefer using the 75mm over the 50mm. I would compare the 75mm to a rifle and the 50mm to a shotgun. To 'shoot, accurately, from the hip' with the 75mm is difficult. The M10 has a top shutter speed of 1/4000 sec. That's fast enough to allow me to shoot wide open ONLY if my subject is NOT in bright sunlight, but I do have ND filters for both lenses. I don't even attempt to shoot wide open without using Leica's EVF. If your 'street' subject moves a half inch he'll be out of focus. Capturing real, i.e. moving people on the street with your lens wide open is a real trick. It's a matter of luck, i.e. shoot lots of photos. They're both great lenses.
@@LeicaCameraAustralia Leica should give the new M cameras a shutter speed of 1/8000. I think they should do away with the mechanical rangefinder on the M cameras, too, replacing it with an EVF.
Aside from my flippant reply, 😁 one of the benefits of the rangefinder is that you can see outside the frame lines, something you can't do with an EVF.
What a splendid review,75 noctilux is a engineer marvel,it is expensive ,but worth every penny,you are really talented photographer,after owning the lens couple weeks,one of the question I encounter is when shooting in very bright daylight,maximum aperture 1/4000 on m10 is not enough,it will blown the highlight,how would you resolve this problem?
So....did you buy one? I think with my abilities I best stick with my 85 f1.4 on a Sony with eye focus tracking. I once had a manual focus Canon 85 f1.2 FD and had a lot of missed focus images. Now I nail it with the Sony. By the way, great images and you obviously know how to use it.
Manual lenses like this were very hard to focus on DSLR systems. The AF was not controllable enough, and you could not accurately judge the focus if you manually focussed using the viewfinder. Manual lenses on good EVFs are so much easier.
Hi JS. Not sure what part of the world you are in but there is an exhibition of my work at the Leica Gallery in Melbourne. That work is for sale so, yes, it's possible to get prints. You can contact me at info@leica-akademie.com.au if you want more info.
Thank you for the video. Do you think the Visoflex is a significant upgrade to the LCD live view at the back of the M10-R? I have been using the 75mm Noctilux-M lens with the LCD live view (with red haze), but the photos still turn out slightly blurred. Thanks!
Yes, definitely. The camera-to-your-eye position is more stable than holding it in front of you, and the view through the Visoflex is much easier to see, particularly in bright light.
Amazing presentation! What do you prefer shooting, 50 noctilux or the 75 noctilux? Your photos are inspiring and makes me want to shoot.. at 1.25 one day hahah!
Why are you saying the 50 mm f/0.95 lens is odd when compared to this 75 mm lens? It would be interesting to compare the two lenses on the same portrait subject with identical background and lighting.
Hi Wilfred. The 50mm Noctilux has a very different character to the 75mm. It is quite eccentric in the way it renders out of focus areas whilst the 75mm is more technically 'correct' and clinical. It's not just about DoF or lack thereof.
Very nice, as always. Did you notice any difference in ease of focusing between the SL and SL2, and how does sharpness compare between this lens and the 50mm Noctilux ?
No difference in practical terms for focussing between the SL and SL2. The sharpness of the 75mm definitely exceeds that of the 50mm, and it's more 'flat'. The 50mm has much more 'character', the 75mm is more technically sharp across the field of view.
They are all lovely photos and presentation The problem I see is that these days because all high end cameras are capable of astonishing results, it makes it very difficult to differentiate results making the high cost of this lens impossible to justify unless you can afford and just like buying prestigious beautifully made equipment
Fair point, but in all high end gear that little bit extra tends to double the price. 'Good' is fine for most people, but 'great' - well that comes at a premium price.
I have the 90mm summicron older version and hadn’t been using it much then one day decided to shoot with it for a project and let me tell you there definitely is something special about Leica lenses. I own tons of lenses Zeiss among them but I love my 90mm for its colors and beautiful way it renders. Those things are hard to explain in charts. There are lots of older Leica glass that isn’t crazy expensive.
Hi Peter. I have used the 90mm Summicron-SL extensively, and the 75mm Summicron-SL a little bit. Both are truly superb (of course) but f1.25 shows a big difference compared to f2.0. No so much in apparent DoF on the subject but more in the background. See Peter Karbe's upcoming SL lens webinar recording which will be posted here in the next week or so.
You may have had a temporary bandwidth issue at your end - Vimeo will choke the feed to 360p or 480p if there is not enough capacity. Check the settings in the bottom right of the video window. The video is in full HD 1080p.
Having to uses a add on viewfinder or an SL2 to utilise the lens effectively not to mention the massive weight, means it doesn’t fit in with why people bought M cameras in the first place
A lens like this actually works best with a mechanical focus mechanism. The best AF in the world cannot judge the desired focus point as accurately as your eye using a magnified view in an EVF. Thus it's a great match for both SL2 and M with Visoflex.
As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with using the lens with the rangefinder. I believe Nick is just making a suggestion to use an EVF for people who aren't necessarily experts with a rangefinder if they're having trouble nailing the focus with the small depth of field. In terms of size and weight, I can understand it might be a bit large for your personal preference, and that's okay, but I don't think it's missing the point of the M series. The lens is still able to fit comfortably in your hand, and focusing is just as easy as any M lens for a given aperture. They had to increase the size to let enough light in for the aperture, and the weight goes up with it. They aren't stopping production on small lenses, they're just adding more variety to the selection.
The 75mm Noctilux has a really nice rendering for bokeh, and those were some great shots. Peter Karbe might be sad you didn’t take the night time ones wide open though.
Don't worry Nick, you weren't misleading. I was making a joke since Peter Karbe is very adamant you shoot wide open as much as possible. Are you sure the night time shots are at f1.25 though? From the pictures I've seen, and that section at the beginning, I thought that the bokeh balls with the 75mm Noctilux where completely smooth at F1.25, and the bokeh in the night time shots looked more like the f1.4 aperture blades to me, hence why I made the joke.
It's entirely possible some of those shots were at f1.4 - the click stop between the two settings is very 'fine' and it's easy to mistake one for the other. The intention was to shoot everything at f1.25! The cameras do not record the precise f-stop used because there is no lens-camera linkage - the camera makes a 'best guess' based on a small light sensor on the front of the camera.
I completely get that. Sometimes when I use my L mount Sigma 35mm, I'll be shooting at f1.4 or even f2 without realising it. The M mount lenses have a much firmer click between apertures though, so I find myself out of place much less often.
Someone should address the value of shooting at low ISO numbers, e.g. ISO 100. Except for the excellent bokeh of Leica's Noctilux lenses why spend $14K USD for a heavy, 'Noctilux' lens when you can still get excellent (?) 'available-light' photos at ISO 6400? Does anyone but me shoot at ISO 100?
Lots of people shoot at ISO100, including me, when possible. The value of the Noctilux lens is in the look. In film days it was about gathering light but as you correctly point out, high ISO is no longer an issue. Having said that I value sharp images over low noise.
@@LeicaCameraAustralia , that was my point. With the Noctilux lenses you can have both sharp images AND low noise. Indoors I usually shoot at ISO 100; 1/250 second; and whatever aperture is required, f/1.2 if necessary.
I understand. I was pointing out a tendency for people to 'risk' lower shutter speeds in order to avoid even a hint of noise. Wrong priority, IMO. Go for the correct shutter speed and don't worry too much about the noise.
"The broken phone caught my attention". 🤠 This video is great because these are the kind of events I love shooting. Phenomenal images.
Nick is a great photographer. Pictures shown are balanced, delightful, and feel natural.
Thanks Steve!
Like others who have commented, I’ve watched this video a number of times just to admire the photography! Excellent work.
Wow, thank you!
I`ve watched this a number of times (not that I`ll ever own such a lens) and I must say those shots are stunning .Excellent work .
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for a very classy and pleasant presentation spiced up with incredibly shot photos. You're one class act, sir...
Ok .. I'm convinced .... Send one over and I'll put it though its paces, too. 🤣😂🤣 Brilliant work, Nick. Magnificent lens with photos to match.
You are my Leica man. As always fantastic review, great pictures! This lens my favorite and I think this is a best lens leica ever made.
Thank you
Again, a very nicely - calm - presentation and seemingly well balanced too.
Thank you kindly!
Thanks Nick, much appreciated. Struggling to choose between the two Noctilux's 75mm or 50mm, as you've rightly highlighted both the 50 and 75 are unique, they have their own individual unique rendering signature. Cannot wait for the new "M11" to be released so can take these lens out on a test run, after hearing how the SL2 can be paired beautifully with ease, will definitely trial it too before deciding on making the purchase for the new body and lens.
I had trialed the M10p with the 28mm Summilux when it was newly released a few years ago, although ever since fallen in love with the M but wasn't satisfied at the time, and decided to hold off until the next major upgrade came along. Personally I think you have to actually hold the M rangefinder in your hands to appreciate the wonders of it, and take it on a test run than only one can truly appreciate that Leica magic and connection you'd feel whilst capturing the moments. It isn't something one can express through words merely rather need to go on a journey yourself.
On another note; watched all your recent episodes and tutorials, and always look forward to the next post. Enjoyed the last episode with the Master of the Lens himself. Thanks for everything and sharing your wisdom with us.
(Lancashire -UK)
Beauty of a lens! Great photography also!
Amazing presentation, Sir Nick! wonderful, I could not help but agree with your every sec!
Glad you liked it!
Best lens ever !!!
Great presentation, Nick, and some wonderful photographs also.
You’ve really shown how the Noctilux 75mm is a truly extraordinary lens.
I’m not sure if I could ever justify dropping a lazy AUD$19k on it, but I’m glad it exists and someone else can afford to make such photos.
Thanks.
Nice to have something to aspire to.
Best lens ever... period.
Agreed, it's astonishing.
Beautiful pictures, Nick. Thanks for that!
My pleasure!
That is one amazing lens, Nick. Thanks for putting it up.
My pleasure John!
Great review and awesome photos! Thanks a lot!
Glad you liked it!
Great video as always!
Thanks again!
Nice photos, Nick. Great lens. One day. Favs are: 13:30, 17:30, 21:56, 22:32. Always great content. Thank you!
Glad you like them!
Fantastic review of a lens I will never be able to afford. At least I understand more about why it's so spetacular.
One can only dream!
Great Video, I am sold on this lens! Magic! Precisely what I have been eying! 👍🏻
Great to hear!
Very beautiful pix, thx for your video.
Glad you like it
Hello Nick. Fabulous video, thank you. Having just stepped into the world of Leica M I found this fascinating. I think this lens will be out of my range for quite some time to come but your narrative on your exceptional photos really helps understand how to use a Leica M to maximise effect.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks very much for your very informative video on the 75mm leica lens. Very enjoyable video and lovely images I just bought a SL2 which I been saving up for years to buy a Leica thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome photos and lens ... I love it 😎
Me too!
Fantastic video, Nick.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great imagery and information mate. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it
wow clean shots👏🏾👏🏾
Appreciate it
Excellent.
Lovely lens, thinking of adding it to my collection.
You should!
Great shots Nick, shows off the characteristics of the lens superbly. Yet more snake photo's !!!!!!!
Thanks Bill
Great presentation.
Thank you kindly!
Nick, this review is the best lens review that I’ve ever watched. I’m was so hyped to purchase this lens after watching your video that I lost sleep thinking about owning the 75 Noctilux 1.25. But before I pull the trigger may I please ask you a couple of questions? While this lens has its own unique glow and signature - is the 75 APO f2 still a viable option to this monstrosity? How comfortable was this on an M body, and for how long?
Nick, I am a confessed Bokeh addict. And this lens would certainly feed my addiction. But if it’s just too big and bulky, then over time I would use it less and less I suspect. And I believe that this lens is more niche than the Leica M itself.
I appreciate what you provide to the professional and enthusiast photographers alike.
Thank you,
The 75mm APO-Summicron-M is a viable alternative but it is simply not as astonishingly sharp as the Noctilux, even if is it a lot smaller. it is also an older design and does not have the strong focus and contrast fall-off that makes the Nocti so three dimensional. The 75mm Noctilux works just fine on the M10 and M11, but I would strongly recommend the Visoflex EVF so you can more easily nail critical focus. it also works superbly on the SL cameras,
@@LeicaCameraAustralia I thank you. My kit thanks you. But my wallet is about feel a slight pinch.
Hard time to find great gear. Preordered the 75 Noctilux 1.25. Expected to arrive in June. Still waiting for the M11. And have also decided to purchase the 50 Noctilux 1.2 exclusively for my M9. Thanks Nick. Be Blessed,
Nice photography .
Thank you 🙂
@@LeicaCameraAustralia Really stunning work , Inspiring.
Great Video 👍 Were most of the photo's taken with the M10 or the SL2? Thanks, David
Some M10, lots of SL. Maybe 80/20. The SL and SL2 work really well with the Nocti lenses.
Nick, a great video and summary of the capabilities of the Noctilux. Are you using the Visoflex for those rodeo shots? They are stunning - a pleasure to see this kind of video with great work to accompany it.
A lot of the shots are with the SL. When using the M10, yes I used the Visoflex a lot. The new Visoflex 2 is even better!
I have both the 50mm and the 75mm Noctilux lenses. I have only one camera, the 24 megapixel M10. About 95% of my photos are 'street' photographs. Except when I'm working in 'close quarters' - like a coffee shop or restaurant - I prefer using the 75mm over the 50mm. I would compare the 75mm to a rifle and the 50mm to a shotgun. To 'shoot, accurately, from the hip' with the 75mm is difficult. The M10 has a top shutter speed of 1/4000 sec. That's fast enough to allow me to shoot wide open ONLY if my subject is NOT in bright sunlight, but I do have ND filters for both lenses. I don't even attempt to shoot wide open without using Leica's EVF. If your 'street' subject moves a half inch he'll be out of focus. Capturing real, i.e. moving people on the street with your lens wide open is a real trick. It's a matter of luck, i.e. shoot lots of photos. They're both great lenses.
Sometimes you need ND filters when using a Nocti and an M camera. On the SL2 is not a problem.
@@LeicaCameraAustralia Leica should give the new M cameras a shutter speed of 1/8000. I think they should do away with the mechanical rangefinder on the M cameras, too, replacing it with an EVF.
Thanks a lot for your response.
That's called a CL!
Aside from my flippant reply, 😁 one of the benefits of the rangefinder is that you can see outside the frame lines, something you can't do with an EVF.
As much as I wanted this, I can't afford it hehe, so I opted for the Voigtlander f.15 ;-) All good I would say.
What a splendid review,75 noctilux is a engineer marvel,it is expensive ,but worth every penny,you are really talented photographer,after owning the lens couple weeks,one of the question I encounter is when shooting in very bright daylight,maximum aperture 1/4000 on m10 is not enough,it will blown the highlight,how would you resolve this problem?
That is where neutral ND filters come in. You are correct - 1/4000 is not enough at f1.25 in full sun. You will need to add a 3 or 4 stop ND.
Have you used the 90mm 1.5, Nick, and what did you think?
Similar to the 75mm Nocti. Unbelievably sharp. Tricky to focus with the rangefinder but very easy with the Visoflex or on an SL3.
So....did you buy one? I think with my abilities I best stick with my 85 f1.4 on a Sony with eye focus tracking. I once had a manual focus Canon 85 f1.2 FD and had a lot of missed focus images. Now I nail it with the Sony. By the way, great images and you obviously know how to use it.
Manual lenses like this were very hard to focus on DSLR systems. The AF was not controllable enough, and you could not accurately judge the focus if you manually focussed using the viewfinder. Manual lenses on good EVFs are so much easier.
Another great video with amazing shots. That lens is phenomenal, even by Leica standards. Do you sell prints of your shots?
Hi JS. Not sure what part of the world you are in but there is an exhibition of my work at the Leica Gallery in Melbourne. That work is for sale so, yes, it's possible to get prints. You can contact me at info@leica-akademie.com.au if you want more info.
Thank you for the video.
Do you think the Visoflex is a significant upgrade to the LCD live view at the back of the M10-R?
I have been using the 75mm Noctilux-M lens with the LCD live view (with red haze), but the photos still turn out slightly blurred. Thanks!
Yes, definitely. The camera-to-your-eye position is more stable than holding it in front of you, and the view through the Visoflex is much easier to see, particularly in bright light.
Great video, M or SL with this lens for a weekend, what do you recommend? Thanks
Hi Douglas. Hard choice! I'd go with the SL2, if it was me.
Amazing presentation! What do you prefer shooting, 50 noctilux or the 75 noctilux? Your photos are inspiring and makes me want to shoot.. at 1.25 one day hahah!
Hi Nalla. Both are great, but maybe the 75mm...
Why are you saying the 50 mm f/0.95 lens is odd when compared to this 75 mm lens? It would be interesting to compare the two lenses on the same portrait subject with identical background and lighting.
Hi Wilfred. The 50mm Noctilux has a very different character to the 75mm. It is quite eccentric in the way it renders out of focus areas whilst the 75mm is more technically 'correct' and clinical. It's not just about DoF or lack thereof.
Very nice, as always. Did you notice any difference in ease of focusing between the SL and SL2, and how does sharpness compare between this lens and the 50mm Noctilux ?
No difference in practical terms for focussing between the SL and SL2. The sharpness of the 75mm definitely exceeds that of the 50mm, and it's more 'flat'. The 50mm has much more 'character', the 75mm is more technically sharp across the field of view.
@@LeicaCameraAustralia Thank you very much !
They are all lovely photos and presentation
The problem I see is that these days because all high end cameras are capable of astonishing results, it makes it very difficult to differentiate results making the high cost of this lens impossible to justify unless you can afford and just like buying prestigious beautifully made equipment
Fair point, but in all high end gear that little bit extra tends to double the price. 'Good' is fine for most people, but 'great' - well that comes at a premium price.
Leica Camera Australia I fully agree
I was just making an observation how much that tiny bit extra costs so much more
All the very best
I have the 90mm summicron older version and hadn’t been using it much then one day decided to shoot with it for a project and let me tell you there definitely is something special about Leica lenses. I own tons of lenses Zeiss among them but I love my 90mm for its colors and beautiful way it renders. Those things are hard to explain in charts. There are lots of older Leica glass that isn’t crazy expensive.
Enjoyed the video. It would have been interesting to hear the optical differences between the 75mm Noctilux-M and 75mm Summicron-L.
Hi Peter. I have used the 90mm Summicron-SL extensively, and the 75mm Summicron-SL a little bit. Both are truly superb (of course) but f1.25 shows a big difference compared to f2.0. No so much in apparent DoF on the subject but more in the background. See Peter Karbe's upcoming SL lens webinar recording which will be posted here in the next week or so.
@@LeicaCameraAustralia Hi Nick. My wallet is now much thinner thanks to your video. Keep up the good work.
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Having to uses a add on viewfinder or an SL2 to utilise the lens effectively not to mention the massive weight, means it doesn’t fit in with why people bought M cameras in the first place
A lens like this actually works best with a mechanical focus mechanism. The best AF in the world cannot judge the desired focus point as accurately as your eye using a magnified view in an EVF. Thus it's a great match for both SL2 and M with Visoflex.
As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with using the lens with the rangefinder. I believe Nick is just making a suggestion to use an EVF for people who aren't necessarily experts with a rangefinder if they're having trouble nailing the focus with the small depth of field.
In terms of size and weight, I can understand it might be a bit large for your personal preference, and that's okay, but I don't think it's missing the point of the M series. The lens is still able to fit comfortably in your hand, and focusing is just as easy as any M lens for a given aperture. They had to increase the size to let enough light in for the aperture, and the weight goes up with it. They aren't stopping production on small lenses, they're just adding more variety to the selection.
The 75mm Noctilux has a really nice rendering for bokeh, and those were some great shots. Peter Karbe might be sad you didn’t take the night time ones wide open though.
Hi Owen. All the images were taken at f1.25. I hope what I said in the video was not misleading. If so then consider this a correction.
Don't worry Nick, you weren't misleading. I was making a joke since Peter Karbe is very adamant you shoot wide open as much as possible.
Are you sure the night time shots are at f1.25 though? From the pictures I've seen, and that section at the beginning, I thought that the bokeh balls with the 75mm Noctilux where completely smooth at F1.25, and the bokeh in the night time shots looked more like the f1.4 aperture blades to me, hence why I made the joke.
It's entirely possible some of those shots were at f1.4 - the click stop between the two settings is very 'fine' and it's easy to mistake one for the other. The intention was to shoot everything at f1.25! The cameras do not record the precise f-stop used because there is no lens-camera linkage - the camera makes a 'best guess' based on a small light sensor on the front of the camera.
I completely get that. Sometimes when I use my L mount Sigma 35mm, I'll be shooting at f1.4 or even f2 without realising it. The M mount lenses have a much firmer click between apertures though, so I find myself out of place much less often.
Someone should address the value of shooting at low ISO numbers, e.g. ISO 100. Except for the excellent bokeh of Leica's Noctilux lenses why spend $14K USD for a heavy, 'Noctilux' lens when you can still get excellent (?) 'available-light' photos at ISO 6400? Does anyone but me shoot at ISO 100?
Lots of people shoot at ISO100, including me, when possible. The value of the Noctilux lens is in the look. In film days it was about gathering light but as you correctly point out, high ISO is no longer an issue. Having said that I value sharp images over low noise.
@@LeicaCameraAustralia , that was my point. With the Noctilux lenses you can have both sharp images AND low noise. Indoors I usually shoot at ISO 100; 1/250 second; and whatever aperture is required, f/1.2 if necessary.
I understand. I was pointing out a tendency for people to 'risk' lower shutter speeds in order to avoid even a hint of noise. Wrong priority, IMO. Go for the correct shutter speed and don't worry too much about the noise.
I think a better argument for the lens is not the low ISO that it permits, but the aesthetic effect of the large aperture itself.
Talked me out of the lens...
What changed your mind, if you don't mind me asking......