Origins Of The Nephilim | 3 Primary Views | Tim Chaffey
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- In this episode of Theology Applied, Tim Chaffey joins the show to explain 1) Who are the Nephilim, 2) The Three Possible Origins of the Nephilim, and 3) How the Nephilim Returned after the Flood.
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Oh my goodness! I work where Tim works at the Creation Museum
What do you do at the creation museum?
Have u heard why the flood happened? To stop the nephilim blood attack? The nephilim we’re trying to inbreed into all mankind destroying Adams pure bloodline. This would stop Jesus birth as Jesus wouldn’t be born into nephilim blood. Nephilim blood cannot be saved at the white throne judgement as it was never created by god to live at all!
I LOVE the Creation Museum! I wish I could live and work there. Lol
This was excellent! Answered a ton of my questions. Can't wait for the 4 part series!! God bless you Pastor Joel
Best scholar material, Dr Michael Heiser,, Unseen Realm and others
Yeah, backing you up here... Anybody interested in the supernatural from a biblical standpoint, Heiser is the man to listen to/read.
There are so many parts to this, that I absolutely love. I’ve been researching this topic for over 10 years, and am certainly intrigued even further into the truth and bought your book. Thank you so much for taking time to share your research with us. I loved the comment about we have this inner desire to know if dragons are real or not because we may know that we are supposed to slay them. Even though I’m a wife and a mother, that resonated with me.😅
As a fan of Answers in Genesis and RRM, this is an awesome collab! I learned a lot.
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Pastor Joel: my theory is that the Nephalim built the pyramids and other ancient structures which we cannot explain today, how they were built using such limited technology. I will admit that scripture says nothing about this, but it seems, to me any way, like a logical explanation. What's your thoughts on this?
The scriptures dont need to speak of it ,it was widely understood after all Abraham would have been very familiar with the Annunaki
@@joshuascott3428 agreed. Extra biblical information is not invalid. It’s just not in the Bible and not to be considered the absolute infallible Word of God. That said it doesn’t mean that it’s not truthful or helpful to color in the context of what’s going on at a certain place in history.
@@donnalisti3473 Well I don’t consider the apocrypha extra biblical it’s part of my canon
I have had the same opinion. Other examples would be Stonehenge and the Rujm El-Hiri.
I think it was Genghis Khan you where refereeing to not Attila the Hun. Genghis Khan is the guy who had hundreds of children which is why you hear people say 10% of people have his dna, which currently I think the number is around 0.5% or something like that which is still around 16 million decedents, and it's primarily people throughout Asia. The History buff in me had to share this information. 😛
You’re right!
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Lets end this debate once and for all. The definition of a son of God, Romans 8:14-18. Please read. This definition applies to Adam and Noah, in fact every believer. It says, that a person led by the Spirit are called sons of God. End of debate. Satan had the title son of God before he fell, Satan backsides and looses his title son of God because he is no longer led by God's Spirit. If I backslide I am no longer led by the Spirit and loose my title as a son of God. I no longer obey the word of God. Simple. The sons of God in Genesis 6 must have been human men that were believers being led by the Spirit, period. Fallen Angels were not led by the Spirit like Gabriel a son of God. You men need to end this foolishness that the sons of God in Genesis were fallen Angels noy led by the Spirit but still Hold the title sons of God. They are sons of Satan the Father of death war violence and sexual immorality. The sons of God sinned by marrying non believers that weren't being led by the Spirit. Do not become unequally yoked. How could you men subtract the definition of a son of God in Romans that ends the debate, if you backslide and go back into the world, your a SON OF SATAN. LED BY SATAN'S SPIRIT. Quit this non sense immediately. This is simple. Jude never said sons of God in Genesis were fallen Angels. ❤😎👍😍
@@robertvann7349 The sons of God in Job are clearly angels.
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Friend Job 2:1 sons of God ie. Gabriel and Michael, who are LED BY THE SPIRIT and Satan now a fallen non son of God because he is backsliden, if you fall you loose your title son of God, right? Yes, if I refuse to be led by the Spirit, I loose my title son of God, right? Yes.The fallen Angels are not sons of God, they are sons of Satan, sinners are sons of Satan, but if they are led by the Spirit they are sons of God. Satan was in heaven in a fallen state, accusing Job. Dude, Romans definition applies to OT Angels and Adam and all saints LED BY THE SPIRIT, PERIOD BRO. Your SUBTRACTING ROMANS 8:14 For as many as are LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD, they are THE SONS OF GOD. Your wrong bro flat wrong, fallen Angels are sons of Satan not led by the Spirit. Go ahead and subtract Romans 8:14 from your lying doctrine. You know now, your name can be subtracted from the lamb's book of life. Swallow your pride dude. This is simple. How can you be blind? Read Romans. You should apologize if your a true Christian. Men like you are in for a rude awakening, twisting scripture unto your own destruction. Be full of pride and don't admit the simple true definition of a true son of God. Scripture interprets scripture. Twist it dude, I dare you. Peace out false teacher. ❤😍😎🤣
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So what. Romans 8:14 is the definition for sons of God, only Angels like Gabriel and Michael are sons of God, The fallen Angels are sons of Satan because they are not led by the Spirit, period. Twist the scripture dude. ❤😍😎🤣
42:03 "....stick to the script, namely The ScriptURE" Haha😅 Love that!
This is real. Nephilim were and are real. Watchers are real. They still exist today
Are you really sure of this?
Yep they do exist still but they re not among us. The are in prison in chains of darkness waiting on the day of judgement
@@lisakimbrell1406actually, it is the Angels that left their place that are in chains and in the pit. The Nephilim are their offspring and most likely are the demons that are looking to be back in a body.
@@Lcash218 yep
I agree!
I believe that the megalithic statues at the Luxor Temple as well as similar enormous structures weighing over 1,000 tons were built during the prediluvian period. It's even conceivable that these magnificent statues were images of despot rulers of that era.
Most are phallic symbols
The entire surface of the Earth was destroyed/remodeled during the Flood. There are no pre-flood structures still in existence.
Completely disagree with you on Calvinism and on Covenant with Israel, and yet i love that we as believers can come together and study the Word, rejoicing in salvation.
Another researcher, though his interest is mostly in the extra-Biblical books in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and in the ante-Nicean church fathers, is Dr. Ken Johnson. Another good voice in this to hear.
Calvinism is a derogatory name for Christians who believe John 17 and Ephesians 1 and Romans 8.
Thank you for this!
Badfled that Tim thinks the 120 is man's lifespan when it was obviously the countdown to the flood, which i know AiG teaches
It’s not so obvious. AIG, doesn’t always get everything. Shocking, I know.
Interesting verse that supports fallen angel view, in my opinion, that seems to be forgotten, is the teaching on head coverings. It teaches men should not cover and women should, and when talking about women covering, it says because of the angels. Now that on itself isn’t a super strong argument, but if consider the idea that angels, multiple, came to earth and mated or somehow created offspring with human women, on multiple occasions, there’s nothing to indicate that the nature of angels and potential temptations they may deal with has changed, so a covering is an important symbol of authority for angels who interact with women or on behalf of women.
Yes the Bible teaches this . Also teaches the husband is the woman’s covering .
I’ve always been intrigued and fascinated by this topic. I really enjoyed this and am looking forward to the next 3 sessions.
When Tim's "bashing" Augustine, Joel isn't laughing. You're trashing his hero bro.
Real talk. Heartbreaking moment for me. 😂
Haha. If you had to read 5,000 pages from and about Augustine and then write 50 pages about him and his work, you might feel the same way. :)
@@timchaffey5888 Interesting that the NLT is the only one that translates Gen 6:4 how you mentioned: In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children...
I'm with Tim.
Thank you, Joel! Great episode. One question for Tim to expand on in the next episode, though: He asked what if there was something more sinister, if these fallen spirits wanted to created a race that couldn't die. If that's the case, how did the flood kill them, and Peter, as Tim mentioned, said that only 8 survived? Seriously. Please ask him to expand on that. Thanks.
There is a pastor by the name of Allen Nolan and he has an app and is also here on YT. He was great at explaining verse by verse. Give him a chance, he is a really great teacher.
The fallen angels are imprisoned..all flesh and blood are destroyed by flood. Except Noah and his family. Only God can create from scratch like he did with Adam. Angles/fallen angles are powerful but God created them. The only way for fallen angels to attempt to create is through mankind who birthed nephilim the fallen angels and human females offspring..who were flesh and blood.
Great episode. Much needed info for the church.
Where where you guys before it was cool to talk about this stuff
The one thing that blasts the godly Sethite view in my mind is this. If there was a godly Sethite line, the arc should have been much more crowded when God closed the doors. Obviously, overcrowding on the arc was not an issue.
I would love to talk to you guys. You have given me a lot to talk about. This making it so hard yo find a church home because of the traditions of men. I am also starting a podcast trying to apply truth to todays headlines from the point of view of the Bible and simple truths from the natural. For instance, There are whole sections of our stores dedicated to sunscreens. The majority of people around the globe spends hours a day in the sun. They do not have access to sunscreens. Yet, they do not sufer from skin cancers. Somebody is lieing for profit.
very interesting.
My question is WHAT WERE THE WATCHERS SUPOSED TO BE DOING WHEN THEY LEFT THEIR ESTATE AND DEFILED THEMSELVES?
God actually sent them down to watch and teach mankind. They decided amongst themselves to procreate with earth women.
I also heard that some people believed guys like atiliah the hun and genghis khan had nephlim blood in them
Spent an hour just to say genetics of some sort , nicest way to say
If someone doesn’t believe in Nephalim then they are ignoring part of the bible. You can’t pick and choose. I believe every word and comma are the inspired word of God. Just because we don’t understand how something happened doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. The flood was to clear out nephalim in humans and animals, not to eliminate sin.
It was about keeping the bloodline line to Christ from becoming infected , a war that continued for several thousand years,, both in the flesh and in the spiritual realm
This is part 1 of a 4 part series.
You have to Read the Book of Enoch and the Book of Giants to understand the old testament. Both of these books where found in the dead sea scrolls. Chuck Missler was talking about the Nephiem in the 1970s. His youtube videos are awesome.
Correction: the 120 years was from the time God announced judgment, and when Rain came. He never said man will only have 120 years to live.
Have you seen or heard about the 3-part (soon-to-be 4-part) documentary Messiah 2030? The content creator surmises that the 120 years mentioned in Genesis was also prophetic. 1 Jubilee = 50 years. If you multiply 120 years x 50, you get 6,000 years. And if you take the “a day is as 1,000 years and a thousand years a day” concept from the Scriptures, the content creator surmises that mankind’s history will span 6,000 years. Also, there are 6 days of Creation and 1 day of Sabbath rest. Six days of Creation equates to 6,000 years of human history, and 1 day of Sabbath rest equates to the Millennium. There’s so much more. I highly recommend taking a look.
Wow!
One idea I had on this is that the way in which the Angels did this was by demonically possessing human men, such as when Satan entered Judas after Jesus gave him the morsel of bread. Perhaps they entered the men that were the largest and even gave them some sort of extra strength like Samson or the guy whom Jesus casts out Legion (who could break chains). My thoughts are that human beings were sort of "hosts" for the angels (sort of a way for them to "tap" into the physical realm), possessing humans to relay messages and stuff. And these Angels perverted it and used it for sexual sins instead of God's work.
Not a single one of the Job passages he mentions uses the term "sons of God" to refer to any angels -- much less, to _fallen_ ones.
Also, Paul, in Hebrews 1:5, wrote: _"For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"_
How anyone, claiming to believe that verse, can nevertheless sit there claiming _"God sometimes calls fallen angels 'the sons of God'!"_ is beyond me. Since God has never said to any angel, _"Thou art my Son",_ it is utterly ridiculous to claim that God, in Genesis 6 (or anywhere else), is using the term, "the sons of God", to refer to _fallen angels._
Why would it take so long to build the Ark?
Suggest reading Birthright by Timothy Alberino.
Personal thought - I doubt every single woman Wanted to be with Nephalim - it’s not like humans to all think alike. Sometimes a word means what it means ‘took’ = no choice
I had a 3rd grade friend named Mary....she had beautiful golden skin and light radiating blue eyes of kindness....She had an xtra Thumb on each hand. One thumb was slightly larger on each hand, but both were joints that worked well. I was captivated by them. I akways asked to see them...I TOLD HER SHE WAS SPECIAL and She Was.
I think most people have a hard time accepting there are gods in the "Divine Assembly". God is the [E]lohim of the "elohim" and all living things. The "Sons of God" are the elohim...Psalm 82:1-2 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) 82 (0) A psalm of Asaf: (1) Elohim [God] stands in the divine assembly; there with the elohim [judges], he judges: 2 “How long will you go on judging unfairly, favoring the wicked? (Selah)
82:6
6 “My decree is: ‘You are elohim [gods, judges],
sons of the Most High all of you.
7 Nevertheless, you will die like mortals;
like any prince, you will fall.’”
32:30 "whenever"
How about the fact it says the nephilim were in the earth before and after? It doesn't stop at "in those days" But keeps going
You are right, the Bible does not teach fallen angels producing giants. But if they could, they didn't have to get married at all. Angels are not human beings and cannot become one at will. They must remain as God created them. Humans were created to procreate, not Angels. We are terrestrial beings, angels are celestial beings. There are no baby angels or mom and dad angels in heaven. How I know that? Jesus said angels do not marry neither are given in marriage.
@@terrencehall7264 It says angels DO NOT. It doesn't say they CANNOT. There is a difference.
@@terrencehall7264Jude shows they threw ofc their first habitation!
@@terrencehall7264the fallen angels are not in heaven ! And their offspring spirits cant die that is were the demons come from of today .
@@diannebass1051 if you fell from heaven, then you can't be there. What offsprings are you talking about? 🤔
Lamech from Cain’s line had a daughter from Zillah (Naamah) Tubal-Cain’s sister. Other than her, I don’t believe they mention other daughters unless we assume Adah and Zillah are daughters in the Cain line alone with their wives. Enoch, Mahujael…..etc.
Vain was of the serpents seed, the Bible says this in chapter 3. There were 3 separate falls or rebellions of the angels against God. Dr. Micheal Heiser has a book and a phenomenal video about all of this.
The fact that they bred with humans like us is a pretty big clue guys; animals of different species can't breed with each other.
Fantastical is the best description of this view. Interesting that all of this is based on an assumption that these fallen angels would even desire the human daughters. This logic makes tremendous leaps and makes assumptions that are based on more assumptions. The Text makes sense when it's read in the ordinary context. Nothing fantastical needed.
Do you believe that a spirit being impregnated a young virgin thus producing a god-man who performed mighty deeds on earth? Isn't that fantastical?
Thank you. Although I already lean toward the fallen angels origin, I learned much from your presentation. Have you considered genetics (DNA propagation over generations) might play a role in how Nephilim showed up after the Great Flood? Or were the Nephilim able to propagate at all? Thanks
He's thinking of Genghis Kahn not Attila the hun
You’re right.
"it doesn't mean fallen but giants. You won't find that in any lexicon" except Strong's and Brown-Driver-Briggs. It comes from the verb נָפַל which literally means "to fall". It is like the noun version of this verb. You can verify this on Brown-Driver-Briggs lexicon. Or Strong's. They might be giants, I do not know, but it CAN mean fallen. I don't know why he said that around 09:20, he is either ignorant of Biblical Hebrew, which I doubt, being disingenuous, which I also doubt, or made an honest mistake. 🤷♂ Biblical Hebrew is notoriously vague.
I don't mean to seem harsh, but the etymology is clear, and the verb mean's to fall or to lie (down).
I have heard Tim address this. The way the word changes according to Hebrew grammar, it doesn't mean fallen, that would be a whole different word.
Is this guy Dave Rubin's twin?
6:30 as it is written “ sons of G-d” the upper case G makes it G-d in heaven not a perception of men as gods.
John 1:3 refutes the Nephilim as a new type of creature, hybrid or whatever.
Well, with all due respect, you’re taking a single line from a single verse and, attempting to explain a topic that simply cannot be explained away in that manner.
@@patrickian8843 ohhhh, you think I only have one verse for this position? Romans 8:14, Hebrews 11:2-7, and many many many more.
@@patrickian8843 That is exactly what they are doing with the "sons of God". Didn't Genesis 6 clearly define who is to blame? How many times is the word Man, Men, or MANKIND mentioned? How many times is Angels, Fallen angels, or Demons mentioned? The words you need to concentrate on are SAW, PLEASING OR BEAUTIFUL, AND DESIRE. Same sin as in the Garden of Eden at the fall. Has nothing to do with Angels mating with mankind.
I say this with much respect, BUT I feel like I'm setting around a campfire listening to somebody telling a ghost story. This guy is so far out there you can't get a radar fix on him.
At the 42:00 mark the host says "a lot of it is fiction"
That's not good! We better thanks the Bible seriously.
Paul says its time to wake up!
🤔The context of Joel's comment was referring to OTHER discussions on THIS topic. That you CAN GO WAY OFF, do all sorts of research, etc. If you just back up the vid a bit and listen again you will hear the full meaning of that quote 😉
There is a book called. THE he of ORIGIN OF EVIL.
I’m starting to see a lot of errors, the same word man (in 16:42) in hebrew is the same in verse 1,2,3… english makes it sound as if it’s two going back and forth, but the story was writen in Hebrew, passed down to Jews, and as americans, we can’t continue to ignore these simple points, remember, we were invited to His table, His rules, not ours. Stop making it as if this book was written to us, it was written to the world, first to the jews from that time line, then the gentiles
Hagar was a slave who didn’t have a choice
The patriarchs all exceeded 120 years, but the limit on man’s life took a few generations longer amongst those who were followingHim
It was a threat to the bloodline of Our Savior Jesus Christ.
Strong's Concordance
Nephilim: "giants," name of two peoples, one before the flood and one after the flood
Original Word: נְפִיל
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: Nephilim
Phonetic Spelling: (nef-eel')
Definition: "giants", name of two peoples, one before the flood and one after the flood
Tim denies that he's influenced by the book of Enoch to think that the beneha Elohim are angels and the nephilim their descendants, but that's like John MacArthur defending dispensationalism from scripture, and denying that Darby is the ultimate influence. You wouldn't accept that, Joel. My argument is that these are genuinely parallel. Regardless of the arguments being made from Scripture, it's undeniable that the modern belief originates with the popularity of the book of Enoch and not the historically reformed tradition from Augustine through Calvin and on up to spurgeon's time.
That is not the case. Dr. Michael Heiser, who was a Hebrew scholar who specialized in understanding the Bible through the lens of the people who wrote it, has written extensively on this topic. He said that the Sons of God of Genesis 6 were always implicitly understood by the ancient Hebrews to be heavenly beings. It wasn't even a question. It was common knowledge. He wrote an excellent refutation of the Sethite theory in his book, Reversing Hermon.
@@shellysangrey Michael heiser did not preexist darby and scofield
Talking to my wife about all of this, she asked if the angels came down to mate to increase the gene pool, so we're all not inbred from Adam and Eve? She stumped me!
We do know that we’re all descendants of Noah and my understanding is that when the Bible calls Noah a just man and perfect in his generation it partially means his line from Adam was not corrupted by the fallen angels. If that’s true we would still all have come from Adam and Eve. Not an expert here, but that is a theory I’ve heard.
Ah NO , not , so we are inbred from Adam and Eve .
I honestly the fallen angel's view is false doctrine/teaching and itself demonic. When he quotes Luke 24, the sons of God are not the angels but believers who will be in the first resurrection. It says that people will be equal to the angels in heaven AND are the sons of God! Which are not angels, because Hebrews Ch1 Says they are not. This teaching you hold is exactly what Paul warned us about to not heed to Jewish Fables and wives tales. Luke 20:34-36
[34]And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
[35]But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
[36]Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
We are son's of ADOM & ADOM IS THE SON OF GOD !!! .
First!
I think angel took advantage of human beings woman
Oh... i see now. So angels have the capability to procreate. And satan's side tried to stifle Jesus’s life. And God's angels don't succumb to those desires. Lived out in Jesus’s ministry. Very interesting and logical.
On what basis does the view of angels have the capability to procreate stand?
@michaelmntn4846 keep in mind, they have the ability. Not necessarily the desire. So those angels in heaven do not go that route.
Job 1:6 - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them
Christian writers such as Justin Martyr, Eusebius, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, and Commodianus believed that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6:1-4 were fallen angels who engaged in unnatural union with human women, resulting in the begetting of the Nephilim.
Which part is fiction?
25:15.. believer marrying unbeliever had nothing to do with it. Scripture lists this and says how to handle it.
No, this was the sons of God impregnating human women which led to 2/3 divine beings, demigods, the heros of old.
There were already giants or nephelim on the earth in those days, and also afterwards. I'm not 100% the nephelim here are the sons of God.
What about the theory that Cain is Satans son and able was adams child and seth was the replacement for abel
Confused metaphysics leads to a lot of problems. You guys should work out what angels are before drawing all this out 😂
No mention of the Book of Enoch ,jasher,jubilee?
_"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."_
"...saw...that they were fair" sure does not sound like the motivation of the sons of God for taking wives of the daughters of men was a deliberate effort on their part to corrupt the line of the woman's seed. On the face of it, at least, it sure looks like lust in the hearts of the sons of God was their motive to these marriages. It does not even appear from the text that a prospect of corrupting the line of the woman's promised seed was even a consideration with them.
Where are the bones in real life we have dinosaurs remains but none from Giants
31:29 Water is neither created nor destroyed. H²0¹: ³ in ¹. Jesus walked on top of it after it was infested by Marine spirits to show that even though the fallen angels had created various realms on earth [water: mermsids,etc; forests: big foot, dwarves, etc; 2nd heaven, and others], The Supreme Ruler is still over all and it is all still "under His feet".
Maybe the isles of the gentiles have the nephilim DNA?
Please just read what it says in a correct translation:
Gen 6:2 That the sons of THE gods [bni ha'elohim: sons of the rulers, men in power] saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
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4 There were giants [nephilim: tyrants, bullies, fellers] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of THE gods [rulers] came in unto the daughters of men, and they (the daughters) bare to them (the sons of the rulers) > the same mighty MEN which were of old, MEN of renown.
Refer to parallel account in Jasher 4.
In Psalm 8, who does "ha'elohim" refer to?
God does not Replace the Jew's with Christian's in Israel. It's JEW'S that rebuild the Temple again for the 3rd time. It's 144,000 JEW'S that God calls to preach during the Tribulation, it's Jew's that get slaughtered and flee to Petra, its Jew's in the Ezekiel 38 War, it's Jew's cleaning up afterwards...
Jesus said " I will not return till they say
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord " Matthew 23:39 ...
Genetic engineering was going on back then come on guys ....
Have you heard about the Kandahar giant in Afghanistan which a U.S. Army unit encountered, I believe back in the early 2000s? After the unit FINALLY subdued the creature, the body was whisked away via helicopter, never to be seen again; and the surviving members of the unit were ordered to stay silent on the matter. The ones that DO talk about the encounter today have to use technology to pixilate their faces and obscure the sound of their voices. The giant was red-haired and had six digits on each hand and foot. Could this mean that further fallen angel incursions have been ongoing and there are nephilim on the earth, even as we speak?
The same can be said about weight loss profir while we are the fattest people on Earth.
You look like Matt Walsh’s twin! 😂
48:02 _"Angels, as far as we know -- there's nothing, Biblically, that would eradicate the possibility of fallen angels who have left their heavenly abode, taking wives -- human wives -- and being able to procreate with them."_
That's glaringly false. Jesus Christ, Himself, in Matthew 19:4-6, makes it very clear that ALL marriage is between a man and a woman, which means that NO marriage is between an angel and a woman: _"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."_
Do you seriously wish to claim that God has joined together a fallen angel and a woman? Do you seriously wish to claim that a fallen angel and a woman shall be one flesh?
You forgot tradition in those days. Weddings were planned by daddy. The potential groom(in this case a hunking gorgeous Thor type being) offers 100 camels, 100 mules and a side of forbidden knowledge for the hand of that there maiden. Imagine being the dad on the block that got that proposal. Unfortunately that led to those giant offspring. But humans have the birth right to own the world and now those giants are human enough that the fallen angels can now rule the world by proxy through those children the giants.
And we are still in that battle today. The bible is a supernatural history and salvation story book. People want to downplay the supernatural part by putting it on the same level as Harry Potter so they can wrap their heads around it better. The supernatural part is just too much for most folks to handle. And those in the shadows seek to minimize the supernatural salvational gift of Jesus Christ by playing word games and rearranging the sentences of the bible for ulturnative meanings and outcomes. If they can confuse people, put others to sleep spiritually or keep us fighting over the meanings of those verses, they have more time to bring more folks down with them.
ADAM WAS THE ONLY MAN A SON OF GOD !!! UNTIL THE RESURRECTION!!! FACTS ARE FACTS !! Seth’s family didn’t get on the ark did he ??
_"Seth’s family didn’t get on the ark did he ??"_
You're joking, right!?😮 What "Bible" are you reading?
Noah was Seth's family, so yes, _obviously!_ Not only did Seth's family get in the Ark, but Seth's family also built the Ark in the first place!
@@25dollarbill24 OH IM SORRY I KEEP FORGETTING MOST EVERYONE IS COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF SCRIPTURE!!! ILL EXPLAIN TO AS USUAL !!! PAY ATTENTION!!! I was saying EVEN THOUGH SETHS SEED WOULD REPLACE ABLES ,DOESNT MEAN EVERYONE OR NEARLY ANY OF THEM WOULD BE RIGHTEOUS!! ONLY FEW BE THAT FIND THE STRAIGHT NARROW WAY !! FOR THE MORONS WHO THINK SETHS LINE WERE LIKE GODLY MEN ?? MAYBE ONE HERE OR THERE ! BUT REGARDLESS IF THE WERE RIGHTEOUS THEY STILL WOULD NOT BE SONS OF GOD !! ONLY ATOM WAS A SON OF GOD UNTIL THE RESURRECTION!!! YOU COULD NOT BE A SON OF GOD UNTIL JESUS DIED AN ROSE ON THE 3rd day !! ATOM WAS A DIRECT CREATION JUST LIKE THE ANGELS THEY WERE THE ONLY SONS OF GOD ! HINCE I WAS SAYING THEY WERE NOT TO RIGHTEOUS IF THEY PERISHED IN THE FLOOD !!!!!!!!! NOAH WAS THE ONLY ONE RIGHTEOUS IN THE WHOLE WORLD AT THAT TIME THE ONLY ONE THAT OBEYED GOD !! BUT GODS GRACE AN MERCY HE SAVED NOAHS HOUSE !! ILL LET YOU IN ON SOMETHING. I UNDERSTAND GODS WORD MORE THAN U COULD EVER DREAM OF ! AND MORE THAN EVERYONE OF THESE IDIOTS PUTTING OUT ALL THESE VIDEOS!! YOUR THE JOKE ! And IM READING THE KJV AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS UNMEASURABLE TO WHAT YOU THINK U DO !! AND ITS NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN GODS OPENED MY EYES GREATLY !!
At 46:00 … The quote about “the Angels of Heaven do not marry, nor are given in marriage.” … Jesus did not say that the Angels __ do not procreate.__ Other beings, such as birds, bees, butterflies, and all living creatures multiply. Jesus is only referring to the concept that in Heaven, the Woman will not be the property of any specific man, because there will be __no legal ownership __in the Heavenly order of procreation.
There is no need for procreation in Heaven whatsoever because reproduction only occurred as the result of the Fall. Hence no children of Adam and Eve prior to the Fall. Since there was no death, there was no need to replace lives. In Heaven every single person was “born again” into new bodies and a New earth. All of the inhabitants of Heaven are eternal and need no replacements, they are the sum of the work of God’s creation and HIs own Children according to the scriptures. Angels have zero physical procreation whatsoever as that is solely a necessity of the Flesh.
God would NOT be justified to cause another great flood simply because he said he would never do it again !!!
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35:22... that's right.. Lucifer was the most beautiful of all the angels, and was the morning star. Then God made man in his image and placed him above the angels. Lucifer did not like that at all. He didn't think he should have to bow to man. He decided he would rebel and take the mercy seat. He gathered a following of other angels who listened to his propaganda and joined his rebellion.
I'm not sure if he'd already fallen from his position or not when the sons of God took women to we'd and had children with them or not. I am glad to hear this man breaking down the word from the original Hebrew. I hadn't thought to check 'when' yet. If it's supposed to be 'whenever ', then that may clear up some confusion.
We know that the giants were nephelim. We know nephal means 'to fall'. That should mean the nephelim were the fallen angels.
There were nephelim on the earth in those days, and also after that, whenever the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children, the same became the mighty men which were of old, men of renown...
Whenever or when, I don't think it makes much difference to the flow or meaning..
Also after that, when..
That = when the sons of God took women and had children. Whenever actually does not fit well.
Whenever makes it sound like giants will be on the earth whenever angels sleep with humans.
That could be the case, I suppose so nephelim were on the earth when the sons of God made demigods with human women.
Who exactly were these sons of God? They aren't the nephelim. If the nephelim are the fallen angels, then it appears to me that they weren't the culprits that took women to wed...
The current Book of Enoch floating around is a fraud
It is not. Enoch 2 and 3 however are false documents that are unintentionally or intentionally packaged with Enoch 1, and they are proven forgeries written by separate authors much later. Enoch 1 is quoted by Jude and referred to throughput the entire Bible in nearly every book and including by Peter and Jesus Himself.
Funny how the only view that stands up to scripture, even in the New Testament is that the fallen angels bred with women. The other two views are 👎🏻 and disagree with the rest of scripture
Nephlim are just very tall human. Pretty freaking simple. Any other view is idiotic
Because its just genetic
These were angel then where sent to protect women.
Hebrew folklore at best.
I can't believe how people believe this. Very little scripture reference to this.
A lot of story telling based on extra biblical sources, especially the book of Enoch. The Word for giants in the authorized text , Gen 6:4 is "Nepil", properly, i.e. a bully, or tyrant - giant; ref. Strongs concordanc. There is no mention anywhere in the authorized scripture that these giants, or bullies, are some chimera, half demon and half human. An exegetical interpretation would not bypass the Geneses 1 limitations placed on the reproductive abilities of the creature that everything reproduces after it's kind. There is no scripture that states Angels are able to reproduce even within their own kind let alone with women. What's most disturbing about this view is it gives extra biblical narratives from mythological sources greater authority than canonized scripture.
Abraham David and Solomon all polygamous
Exactly, his divine council I believe
Y'all keep mentioning polygamy as sinful. Prove from scripture alone without any inference from tradition that polygyny is sinful. You cannot. Quit making that claim. You are condemning Abraham, the Father of the faith, Jacob, the progenitor of God's people, Moses the keeper of the Law, Gideon the defender of Isreal, Caleb one of two righteous men who God allowed to enter the Land and not die in the wilderness, and most of all you are denigrating God Himself who called Himself the husband of 2 wives on 5 separate occasions.
Interesting you mention Jehoiada the priest,
2 Chronicles 24:2 NASB95 - Joash did what was right in the sight of the LORD all the days of Jehoiada the priest.
3 Jehoiada took two wives for him, and he became the father of sons and daughters.
Mormon much?
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Bible much? Maybe you should crack the Book and read what is says instead of what paganized religion says, including Mormons.
Can you provide the Bible verses where God called Himself the husband of 2 wives.... for all 5 occasions? thank you.
@bsouth7944 1. Jerimiah 3 read the whole thing, paying particular attention to verses 5-11
2. Jeremiah 31 again read the whole chapter. He distinctly says they are his two wives in verse 32, which ironically is in the middle of the prophecy of the New Covenant verses 31-34.
3 Jerimiah 33:24 he calls them his 2 families. As always, read the whole passage.
4. Ezekiel 23. Verses 2 says they were 2 women, verse 4 says they became His and bore Him sons and daughters. Yet again, the whole passage is important.
5. Isaiah 54 is speaking directly to the house of Isreal as the divorced wife in contrast to the married woman Judah, and how she will be restored.
Here is a good teaching on the matter.
ruclips.net/video/OhCdJDQPvUo/видео.htmlsi=etN1d468XFGhWpMh
Ok then. I am a Zionist so I'll not listen to this channel . /Shrug
Cain gave his son's godly names, inferring repentence of what he did. Seths line is where the apostasy starts. Gen 4:26 when Seth begat Enos, then men began to call on the name of the Lord. The Hebrew for call is actually mean profane...
Plus, the Hebrew can read in Genesis Ch4 when it states that Seth had children and that is when men called upon the name of the Lord, it can read they called themselves by the name of the Lord making them sons of God. Plus Luke 3 end of that Chapter STATES: and Adam who is the SON OF GOD! So, if he has children that walk with God, they will be sons of God, it is always by faith. Angels can't procreate and if they could take wives then there is no competing with that. Men would be wiped out. Is it possible you like the view because you are already called a Nephilim, really Raphim. meaning you are a son of the Gods?
Genesis 6 is a kind of test to see if you will seek revelation directly from the Holy Spirit on what this means. In this video they all failed.
That's crazy. God isn't or wouldn't destroy humans again just because of sin. That's why he hasn't because people sin everyday. (Although he is going to judge again once and for all end times) But he did and will AGAIN, because some humans keep trying to intertwine their DNA with the Fallen Angels....
I'm glad Pastor Joel is into these topics as he's coming into the light. Hope one day he would also come out of Calvinism. Because if Calvinism is true, then none of these topics makes sense. The calvinist god would be the main actor and controller of all these strange creatures to come into being and then go against his own will so he would take pleasure in destroying everything he's created. Yeap, calvinism / reform makes no sense at all.
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