I Paid €12.000 For 1 Night On Orient Express: Is It Worth It?
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- It was a chance to step back in time, into the Golden Age of travel. From Florence to Paris in luxury,
onboard the Orient Express. The price is an eye-watering 12,000 euros for two. With all this history and all this hype, I just couldn't say no to my wife's dream.
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that train delay is abysmal. for 12k euros, this looks disappointing
price doesn't seem right at all you can get 5 days in a grande suit for €14.256
Probably not the Trains fault. If any normal train get's delayed it too will get delayed!
For 12k euro I would expect staff where in the station to serve refreshments!
100% fro 12k I want a room three times as big and a michelin star worthy menu
@@jeanvalero1597 @dasutank Yea I agree!
I have to comment that this has been my favorite luxury review of all time. For €12,000, standing waiting at the station for 90 minutes, food that was just okay, and a cabin that small, it is certainly not worth the cost.
Many reviewers I’ve seen on the orient express seem to have been gifted a suite or other high level cabin and then do nothing but gush about the experience. This has been eye-opening to me and has changed how I view this train.
Please keep it up!
wrrr
Like you were actually going to ever buy a ticket! Get over yourself.
@@rockyhrndz Why not? Nothing here suggests that they can't buy one.
@@rockyhrndzblimey: how rude can you be… oh that rude!
Are we sure he even actually took this trip?
I’m glad that despite the experience not living up to certain expectations, that you gave props to the people tasked with delivering the product.
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Alexander - love how you always shout out the staff in your videos. I worked as a server for many years and it's a tough tough job, very unforgiving. I remember having to show up to work one time when I had food poisoning because the managers wouldn't let me request off - normally I was very good at my job and friendly too! But not that night, haha. I work a cushy corporate job now, but a part of me will always be a server. Love to see that you always have grace and appreciation for the industry folk
alexander is a true gentleman
Does the work not have concept of sick leave?
Listening to Zlatan Ibrahimovic playing piano at the bar is worth every penny
I love Alex for his positive attitude, if I were to pay 12k for this I would be more than very disappointed (I think that he was too),but the way he presents it with such a understanding is unreal to me. Great episode and shot out to the people from Orient Express, keep doing what you’re doing and always try to be better, if Alexander liked you why shouldn’t I😊
He is a rich man. He does not care money.
@@ioomimo9639thats not how it works... rich people still understand the concept of value. 12k is way overpriced for the experience he got
Then why do all the rich take our money 🤣
I'm surprised you paid 12000 euro. Your Historic Cabin from Florence to Paris is available for around 8000 euro for two passengers already. Maybe have a chat with your travel agent (also about compensation for the delay, I know Orient Express is very lenient with their customer service).
Nice catch, but even at €8,000 it still feels like a gyp.
Beverages are not included, and if you know Alexander he loves his champagne 🤣
@@connor1586I mean if you compare it to a first class plane ticket going that distance it’s worth jt
I'm pretty sure the VSOE uses dynamic pricing for reservations, so the E8,000 price could increase if you booked a popular trip last minute. In addition I noticed he paid for the extra Breakfast in the Dining Car. I can't remember the exact price, but let's say it was an additional E120 each. It's not cheap. They could have also had Caviar at lunch or dinner which is around E650 per person per meal.
He and his wife had a E600 bottle of wine for lunch. You can see the price in the Wine Menu of the Grand Cru they ordered.
I also saw the Krug being poured. Krug and several drinks - he said he was in the Bar Car until the Early hours - would add up. Plus tips or Service Charges. I can see how he could easily have got up to E12,000.
@@gilbydog7350 I also think why vsoe maintained the mostly small cabin size throughout the years not only for more passenger capacity, but to add profit from the bar. Who'd stay at that cramped cabin? People would inadvertently come to the bar, and spend some there. Great business for them, but sucks for the passengers.
That’s a great review, well done Alexander. I love the comparison between the two travel types and of course, your patience for the newbies and praising the REAL people who actually made your journey better!
Are you sure he even actually took the trip?
love the honesty, instant subscribe. so fed up with all the luxury "reviewers" who, probably because they are comped a lot, barely mention the negatives. in this pricing range, perfection is to be expected and anything less needs to be called out.
Just make sure he actually took the trip or ate in the restaurant before you get too excited about the review
Great video, no filler, straight to the point and excellent editing. You are quickly becoming one of my favorite channels.
l went from London to Venice on the Orient Express a few years ago. Had exactly the same type of cabin as you, but had it to myself. The food wasn't the best l've ever had, but well presented by kind and helpful staff. The piano bar was great and going across the lagoon into Venice was spectacular. Then travelling by boat to our super hotel. Your journey seemed very expensive. Our trip included the train, Venice, Florence, Pisa and other parts of Tuscany and lasted two weeks and was considerably less than £5000. Great memories.
Pre-pandemic the VSOE was definitely less expensive.
For 12,000.- euros this is unaceptable, I would drink Krug all night and into breakfast. 🤣
His Krug and Montrachet made the bill go over 10.000 euro...Without his champagne addiction, he would have stayed well below.
@@l.d.t.6327 Yeah, the price tag on the pic doesn't paint an accurate picture at all. I guess Alexander was really ticked off at the initial wait or something?
If you can bring yourself not to pay out thousands on champagne then you should get it for less than half the shown price.
Great to see you move into other luxury reviews. I would say trying the First Class Suite on the Symphony of Seas and the Alice in Wonderland restaurant should be on your agenda. Also the Palace on wheels in India
The Alice in wonderland Restaurant is fantastic,and the first class suites are floating apartments ,
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These videos have amazing editing, like it's documentary levels of good. Love the review and how honest you are about your experience.
Very nice, calm review. We too have been on the OE and were underwhelmed. It's nice, it's stylish and it is hugely overpriced for what you paid, though we paid very considerably less. The food reminded me presentationally of the type of thing high end restaurants were doing in the 1980s.
Love that you are always finding creative ways to shoot different experiences outside of restaurants. Awesome review!
Even though you can’t expect that much quality of food in a NORMAL train, that doesn’t count for this 12.000 train ride. It has to be perfect. There are so many train rides that do provide a lot better quality for a quarter of the price.
Paris is so romantic!!!
Paris in real life:
The water on the eggs will be because they used peper and salt way too soon. It makes the eggs watery. Normally for scrambled eggs, you add the spices at the end.
Good info! Thx!
Pepper is fine, it's the salt that drags out the moisture from the eggs
5:28 I have never felt so much pain from such a simple sentence.
I wouldnt let over an hour delay stand. Not for 12K euros. I would've gone absolutely nuts about it and demanded a lot in compensation. That's truely a disgrace for something held in such high regard
My friend, they use the same rails as all the other trains, there is no way for them not to be delayed other than having their own trainyard nearby and being parked there.
@@arnoldschonberg9598uhm idk? Maybe instead of the passenger waiting for 1h, have the train wait 2h in the station? Unless they have a tight schedule? Then no they shouldn't have!
@@arnoldschonberg9598 Even if it's unavoidable, it's still unacceptable for a 12k luxury experience. It's a bad business model if such a bad experience is an expected component of such an expensive package.
I got no trouble with the hour delay, but there has to be a lounge. Having the passengers wait an hour on the platform for a room with no showers just doesn't cut it.
If there was some reason for the delay, staff should have been there to explain, provide luxury snacks, drinks , etc.
Love that you reviewed this. I have to say my wish to go on the Orient one day was tapered by your findings. lol. Wish you could explore Viking Antartica Cruises as well. I hear it's a great experience and another one of my dreams to experience.
Thank you for your efforts in documenting and reviewing these places (especially the restaurants of course), so we can all see them for ourselves! Some of them get me curious and excited, others seem overblown and unnecessary for my taste. Most importantly, you as the show host and reveiwer seem to maintain a critical eye free of luxury blindness. All the reviews I have seen so far appear to be utterly fair assessments. Salutations from Sweden!
You can take a 3 day 2 nights on both Blue Train and Rovos rail in South Africa for half the price. That price includes a full cabin including a bath. Go check them out.
Your channel is a bucket list 😊 keep at it, it’s highly appreciated.
Alex, you rock man. Chapeau. You always present with a positive energy, even when the experience was obviously a disappointment, making your videos always a pleasure regardless of the outcome. I could not do better myself.
I used to take that train route regularly. $150 and quite happy with the food I brought myself.
Been dying for you to do this one, Alexander. haven't watched it yet but I know it's going to be one of my favorite ones! Watching now...
Very nice video, and honestly it seems to be the reflection of so many other people's experiences. Alas, if you want to experience a truly remarkable train journey I can not recommend enough times the journey proposed by Rovos Rails that spans from Cape Town to Dar-Es-Salaam. An truly magical experience spanning two weeks that takes you through a myriad of landscapes for a price, albeit expensive, yet relatively inexpensive compared to the duration and to that of the Orient Express.
February 2nd, 3rd and 4th El Bulli is reopening in Copenhagen in collaboration with Alchemist! You need to go!
I have seen quite some reviews of the train, focussing on the positive aspects. You were honest and criticised what needed to be criticised. Thank you
A very honest review. I was planning to book the OE from Venice to Paris but indeed for that kind of money I am not so sure anymore. Thanks, Ruben.
i like your vids, you give good critism while not condemning stuff that are new.
I enjoy the fairness yet your expirience .
Thanks for the honesty. Great review!
You should review street food. Or at least non-fine dining restaurants. It'd be interesting to see your take on regular food
Many top restaurants openly flaunt serving “street food” dishes.
Nothing beats generations of perfection to feed common people.
I don't know, for 12k, I would expect much better. I like your humility, Alexander.
Happy new year , Alexander , to you and your family ! Wow ! You take most of us into places we can only dream of ! Well, looks like the Orient Express only comes alive when there's a mysterious murder . Thank God for the bar ! That's where all the best people hang out - including the murderer . Anyway. If you change your mind about not going back , make sure Monsieur Poirot is on the train . We can't have the world's greatest food critic and guide go missing like Agatha Christie . Thanks for another fine video !
I have a great suggestion. If you are pivoting to different experiences like this, (ie a travel mode with food), may I suggest a cruise ship ie Virgin Voyages. You could hire the Rockstar cabin and experience all the apparently highly rated restaurants inside it. They say that Virgin has the best food out of all the cruises so would be great to see your take on it. And best of all, they have Krug on board! :D
This is not just a travel channel ....This is a cultural documentary that makes me appreciate our planet and I will support this channel till I'm an old woman. 👍👍👍
As a Murder on the Orient Express lover, I loved this review so much! Thank you for sharing your experience with us!
Love how your sport coat and turtleneck matched perfectly with your pocket square! To me that was better/most interesting than most of your experience on that train!
You love that? Or you like it?
I waited too long for this next video. love this channel.
I feel like that's the strategy of Orient Express. They tend to do smaller cabins so that costumers will go to the bar and buy something😂 12k euros is just too much
True, there is not a lot you can do in that tiny space. The small cabins mean that they can fit more passengers on each train too.
I am a few mins in and would never spend that money on the OE.
For 150€, you can get the night train from bucharest to vienna. it offers almost the same experience as this train, minus the 20s-like bar, but for 1% of the price. There is no reason in the world that would justify paying 12k for mediocre food, a small cabin, and a theme bar. Oh, in bucharest, the train is always on time. Just sayin
I am glad I watched this video. I am so sick and tired of people praising food that is not top notch when top notch prices are being charged. They made me consider riding on that train. Thanks to you, I know I am better off saving my money for something that is actually worth that price tag.
I agree, too many people don't know when the food is good and when it isn't. I think it's fairly likely with the VSOE that the food is pre-prepared and just heating onboard in the tiny galleys.
Alexander you need to do a video about Emirates!! Great work as always
Hey Alexander, Big fan of your honest and rich content.
You definitely got overcharged. I've taken the Orient Express a few times, and none of the routes are €12.000 for 1 night.
The first time we took the Venice Simplon Orient Express with my wife... the train had 6h delay. But in compensation we got all drinks free + a new train ticket in a double cabin :) So check with your agency and ask for a gesture from customer service: they are the best.
The honesty is always appreciated.
Would love to see your Emirates review!
Did you do the Emirates first class review? I'm more interested in that, compared to this lukewarm Orient Express experience :)
Dear Alexander, great video as usual, if youre on a hunt of luxurious trains, do hop on a journey aboard India's most luxurious train: The Maharaja's express. Do get a taste of warm Indian hosting alongside great taste of Indian delicasies and beautiful landscapes.
Or perhaps the Ghan across Australia?
nobody cares about a country where 90% of it is basicly like a third world country
That looks amazing, I wish we had some sort of equivalent to it here in the U.S.
Your antiquated, overpriced, and delayed trains in the U.S. are a pretty fair equivalent to this joke.
I took the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai and had some very good noodles and Singha beers in an A/C Pullman car for $15.
Beds a bit small but cool to see both the city and countryside
Great review! ... I am happy to scratch this train off my bucket list!
Also, the classic thing I noticed ... Batard on the list 2018, the one you got 2019 ... just HOW HARD is it to update the damn list for 12k eur per person.
And the wines, all of them, plus the bar, should be free and ad libitum for 12k.
I would 100 times over rather go to say 3 Michelins and give it hell with wine and still be under 4k per person.
brilliant idea to scale beyond dining!
I like the subtle dig to Italy when the train was delayed..."You know that we are not in Japan anymore"
I appreciate your honesty, thank you!
You are best Chanel for this hands DOWN.....very good
For 12 grands the cabin is ridiculously small ! I would have expected a proper ensuite room with at least a queen size bed …I know it is not a plane where every kilo and square meter counts and not a ship where you have all the room you want , it is in the middle !
$0 or so years ago, we took the VSOE from London to Paris, and a couple of years later did the reverse journey. The Pullman carriages in the UK were comfortable and the food good quality. The Wagon Lit carriages in Europe were good for day travel, but I'd not want to sleep in one. The bed would probably have been comfortable enough, but you had to go to the end of the carriage to use the wc. No shower provided. By contrast, the Indian Pacific we took a couple of times from Adelaide to Sydney gave private shower and wc to each double room; single rooms had their own wc, but no shower.
We were fortunate in our Paris-London journey. There was a severe storm in the Channel, and our journey was changed from one port to another at each end. We did not have to worry about that, all the changes being managed by the VSOE staff.
Love the honest review yet still kept in a gentlemanish tone.
You love that? I appreciate it but love....
Jó vidi Sanyi, csak így tovább!!
I really hope you'll do a video about Le Pierre Gagnaire. It is maybe my best experience so far (will do Plénitude this year to compare)
This is a great example of luxury 100 years ago versus luxury today.
Love the channel, keep on doing what you are doing! Always thought about going on the Orient Express once, but think I will instead try the Japanese or Indian Luxury trains which seem to be a far superior experience.
Try the maharaja express in India. A lot better than first class in Emirates. You get a king size bed, private bathroom, dining spaces, mouthwatering food,TV etc and then stop at historical sites in India along the way. You get a luxury guided tour at each stop and can experience local markets as well. All this for a cost less than $2000 for a week's travel along the breadth of India. As someone who's experienced it, it seems 10 times better than the Oriental express as portrayed in you video for less than half the cost
Comparer une cabine d'avion sans charme avec un monument d'histoire ressuscité n'est pas vraiment réaliste. C'est typiquement le genre d'expérience où il faut "jouer le jeu" et effectivement traîner au bar plutôt que dans sa cabine. Les menus sont un peu décevants, surtout pour le prix...merci pour cette visite, Alexander, pour ce voyage qui me fait toujours rêver.
I believe you used pictures in the beginning from the Accor Orient Express which will start rolling out this year. I think it is going to be better than the Venice Simplon.
Alexander is great. Chapeau 🙂
You make me crossed it from my bucket list without even completing the mission 🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha, you made me laugh by your comments. But that cabin ... Oh my ... 🙈🙈🙈
What a shame. Sleeper trains fascinate me and I've loved the few I've been on. Amtrak trains in the US are a fraction of this price with large rooms, incredible views, simple but good dining in panoramic cars.
I've just been watching the latest Mission Impossible - in which that train meets a very fragmentary end!
thank you for doing this!
I've seen a video of a passage on the once a year run that goes all the way to Constantinople. There's a much larger cabin on that, but booking that is well over 100,000 Euros and you still don't get a shower. If you're lucky the air conditioner works. Essentially, you are seeing what passed for luxury back when the route was relevant. Modern construction/materials allow a lot more amenities in modern trains. I think the price for a one night trip is ridiculous, but people apparently pay it.
alex please try the Glacier express in switzerland, honestly i think youd love it, or my friend owns the Cook Swiss classic train, i can get you guys in touch if you want
"We also tried the scrambled eggs with caviar." 😮 "Maybe some water was left on the plate from the dishwasher and it moistened the eggs, but it wasnt that bad." 💀 *shade delivered K.O.*
12,000 Euros and no bathroom?? And your room is tiny. What a bummer. Thank you for sharing your adventure with us. I hope your wife had a good experience. 😊
You are so discerning, Mater Alex.
In 1968 Mr Fielding and I took the Orient Express to Sarajevo. First class. There was no seating available. There were chickens and baskets of smelly food. We could sit on our luggage or hold it on our heads.
The cabin "where is the rest of it" 🤣
Alexander, we need your review of first class flights!
I love an honest review.
Alexander! I noticed, on the plate to your right… Invisalign! Are you currently going through treatment? I too often forget my case and have to awkwardly guard my little retainer tissue..
For 12.000 thats actually to small of a room. For this price they could afford to make 1 less room and expand others i think. Great video anyways!
do it for the wifey mr alexander, haha. thanks for the review, interesting and I am glad you can objectively call out their strengths and weaknesses.
The delay and especially how it was handled is a no-go for this price…
I could think of at least one thing to do in the cabin besides reading a book 😊
In France, an O.E. fan bought many sleeping cars dieing in Poland some years ago and he restored them....
An association works for restoring this mythical train....
What a great surprise. Thank you
This trip is also on my bucket list - but honestly, I think I will settle for your review. That I can afford and don't even have to be able to walk......as I no longer can.
You mentioned you were in Japan will you be posting a video on a Restaurant there?
What can we say....a once in a lifetime experience 😂
How many 3 Michelin star restaurants could you have gone to for that much?
I try not to think of price when watching your videos but that is a lot of money. That is a very nice holiday for 2 worth of money.
listen I can understand dry and dead bread on a train. but if someone serves me dried up and dead Strawberrries who also has fallen down into the mousse then I am going to scream. for 12000 dollars the least you can ask for is that the presentation is good.
Edit: upon closer inspection those are not Strawberries, but rather 'wild strawberries'
Thank you Alex for an honest review. I will not try this train for that money 😄
Water from the dishwasher 😂 you're a legend...