@@bretherenlee1404 no one said it did, but still doesn’t take away from the fact that he knew he wasn’t throwing that ball and he knew that call was bs but I would’ve done the same thing he did.
@@7Sheepdog7 like i said Tommy aint got nothing to do with none of that. he didnt review the call and the patriots did not throw a challenge flag. the only one in the picture for any blame at all is refs and the nfl
@@bretherenlee1404 who the hell said he had anything to do with it? Are you mentally challenged. My god, all I said was the way Tom laughed in the interview, he knew it was a fumble. Now here you come along arguing some senseless crap. Bro go read a book or take your ass to sleep.
22:13 “you know you’re not going to be the starting quarterback if you lose a game at home, in the snow, to a team from California.” Somebody tell Aaron Rodgers!!!
I live in New England, about an hour away from the stadium where the game took place. I had just gotten a job delivering pizza that week and told the lady I would take the job as long as I had that night off to watch the game. Because of the snow they tried to get me to come in, saying I'd be fired if I didn't. I said "peace" and lost the job but got to watch this game in real time. It was eerie out that night, gigantic flakes of snow with almost balmy quiet weather. Especially with everything that happened that previous year, that night had this really intense energy in the air around here. We had some friends over and put away a case of Heineken and a bottle of Yukon Jack and had a big snowball fight outside after the game. Every time I see footage of this game it takes me right back there, makes me want a beer and a shot;)
Think of how much things are different without this one moment. Brady and Patriots never become what they become, Jon Gruden doesnt leave the Raiders, the Bucs dont win in 2002 , some of the things just from the top of my head. The most consequential NFL play of the last of 25 years.
Bruh stfu clown you swear Brady never wins a ring clown what about the last year’s in New England smh what about the Bucs you swear it all falls into order cuz your clown ass can tell the future if certain moments don’t happen. 😂😂😂
So by your comment your saying we never would have found John Gruden’s racist emails right 😂😂😂 Your a clown that’s not how life works 1 thing doesn’t happen and the rest continues right.
Funny how you clowns don’t know the “Tuck Rule” but it is as in play when Peyton got drafted and before he was drafted so what does that tell you clown ass fan’s y’all don’t know shit about football. The Tuck Rule was in place before Peyton got drafted so why y’all hating and I’m not even a pats fan. So Wilson not handing it off to beast mode then that fucked up everything to right. What about the Raiders not changing up the play calls since John knew them all smh like no one knows what would happen in life. So you knew about Hernandez right so you knew that what about Watson you knew about that right if one thing doesn’t happen then none of that happens either so what about Favre if the Saints don’t cheat with bounty bowl they don’t win right. It’s funny how people like you think 1 think changes you can change the course of history. Have you ever heard of the sayin “history is due to repeat itself”?
STILL hurts like a knife stuck in my gut. The fact that the "Tuck Rule" was so quickly dropped, yeah, it was a bogus rule. If that was considered "an incomplete pass," then there is no such thing as intentional grounding!
In todays ruling, there would be a roughing the passer to Woodson for hitting the QBs head. That would’ve superseded the fumble. And we still don’t know what a completion is.
Intentional grounding doesn’t apply if there’s contact on the throw. Even in todays game, if a QB is targeting a receiver and gets popped as he throws and the ball goes flailing into no man’s land, the intentional grounding rule would not apply
I'm a Patriots fan thank you Walt Coleman for saving Patriots season in 2001 AFC divisional playoffs and the Superbowl that started the Patriots dynasty's and after the tuck rule Walt Coleman had never official Raiders game and Walt Coleman did 17 New England games and it will never go away.
Coleman corrupt AF. I'm guessing he was wired up and got a call from someone in the booth or higher up. Shit like this still going on. The non call on PI in the Saints v Rams game comes to mind and robbed football fans of a Brees v Brady match up.
The League wanted the Patriots in that Super Bowl; it was 9-11, the pretty All-American "underdog" QB...it was too perfect a script for Charles Woodson to ruin.
they've protected pretty boy since the get. that had to be the worst call ever! he had both hands on the ball when he fumbled it! he coulda been nobody if not for the league and especially the refs. now he's the goat.
@@ppags84 that rule was flawed allowing human error due to an untested and unnecessary rule that was unfortunately applied by compromised refereeing. The evidence is that it was the launching pad for the Goat.
Dude there’s literally a rule saying it’s an incomplete pass. It’s not like they just decided to make it up on the spot. It’s a dumb rule, but it’s still a rule.
They had instant replay, hello, the tuck rule was the big deal here. It's gone like all of us are going to be one day because we are sinners. So make sure you repent of all your sins, past,, present, and future, and have Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in His will. God bless you and all who have surrendered, and walk with Elohi, guided by the Holy Spirit !!!!!!!
The beginning of Theater Football. Jon’s super bowl was set up over night in the trade. Very strange time in the NFL and hasn’t been the same since. They get away with controlling games almost every week now.
I'm not surprised that Walt Coleman never did another Raiders' home game. That's common sense. The man's safety would have been in question. I do find it strange that he never had them again on the road.
The legacy of the "tuck rule" is the story of destiny. It is tied to the legacy of life itself. It is the old tale of the halves and the have-nots. You can never escape your destiny.
@@cujbj1 People forget that. Someone with the inclination finally looked into _ALL_ the luck Brady has had & this ruclips.net/video/1SxpiE0_FNY/видео.html is only one of I don't know how many videos he's done on the subject. I may be the only who seriously thinks this, but social psychology has taught me that words affect people. & these were "the _Patriots"_ at a very important time.
True and Raiders have always been hated especially when AL Davis was around but I don’t care what anyone says I have always believed ever since that night that since 9/11 happened the year before and at the time Everyone was very patriotic rightfully so and it was a team from the east coast near to New York had a lot to do with it
Congratulations on your run in Lemans. Though it wasn't a win, a third place podium spot is nothing to hang your head low over. That is an outstanding accomplishment that will hopefully continue this racing program. The proud owner of two mustangs,who just had a distance cousin, that took on Lemans.
I was in Oakland watching that game. The whole city went from cheering thinking the Raiders won to a wtf. You could literally hear everyone in the Town yelling wtf.
That PI was way worse because at least the tuck rule can be debated because there was that rule in place. The PI is so blatant, there's no debating it.
In a another time, Gurden got the epic career. He’s a good man, so I don’t want to disrespect the life he’s had bc he is a successful man. But man, it’s crazy to think what Football History could’ve been.
Lmao, who knows if the raiders would’ve even won the next game? Brady has more Super Bowl wins than anyone else and this is somewhat inconsequential in his story. Even if he lost that year, he still would’ve had the most rings. To think he wouldn’t have been a starter the next year is nuts. Belichick wouldve still had a solid team and one several super bowls of this call wasn’t overturned
I agree with the idea that it's not a fumble but the rule at the time said it wasn't and it was consistently called that whole season - not just in this game. It should've never been a rule to begin with.
It was a Fumble..... Anyone who say that play knows it was a Fumble. As the Man said they were looking for for a way to screw the Raiders. The same exact thing happens to my Bears and every other team the Refs simply don't like or are ordered to screw over.
When Bill Belichick says it was the Similar play to when they played the Jets that’s such horseshit it’s two totally different situations. Testaverde was in the throwing motion when he got hit.. Brady was bringing the ball back already. Bullshit it will always be bullshit
I was at that game and the first time I saw that replay I knew it was going to be overturned. I saw almost the exact same play with Kurt Warner earlier in the season and it was called an incomplete pass.
I’ve been a lifelong Raider fan and I don’t think they needed to get rid of the rule, as obscure as it was. It was just the wrong call. Despite the ball ceasing to go forward when the ball was secured in Brady’s left hand, Walt Coleman failed to recognize the ball being forced out after that moment, as quick as it was. That is what instant replay is for, to correct a call or to confirm it. The league offices failed if it wasn’t all Coleman making the final change. If it wasn’t a mistake, then it was purely deliberate to overturn that call. I don’t think they were considering the term “indisputable” when looking at that replay, that’s for sure. Oh well. It made for great theater especially with Patriots leading the charge after the 9/11 attacks. Couldn’t have a bunch of Raider/terrorists represent, right?
Thought it had to be irrefutable evidence. Thats the thing that gets me about this whole thing, how did they get to irrefutable, it was wayy too close to overturn that.
I was always under the impression that the tuck rule was made up out of thin air that night just to keep us from winning the game. They showed several games that same year with other teams where the refs made the same call. Is that bullshit??? Is someone trying to spin the narrative. I never heard of the tuck rule until that horrible night we lost that game. Now Im seeing footage of other quarterbacks doing the same motion having the same results and the refs making the same exact call. No Fumble WTF
Its funny because Brady admits he doesnt know about the rule and it is very obvious he doesnt. Under the tuck rule it doesnt matter whether or not he was trying to throw a pass, so he should just be honest and say he was not trying to throw a pass and that he was faking a throw. The question is did he get hit before or after he finished tucking the ball, and the truth is that it was so close that there is no way he would know that.
How about Eric Allen admitting that he was eavesdropping on the play call from Weis to Brady - then tells the huddle, tells them the pass is coming backside! Then Eric Allen says "he feels cheated". To take it a step further...if Eric Allen doesn't eavesdrop on the play call, then Woodson doesn't know he'll have a completely open frontside blitz, the play doesn't happen. Then Eric Allen also says "if Woodson doesn't hit Brady, I'm gonna get a pick". There's A LOT that goes into any single play, and certainly Eric Allen's eavesdropping on the play call and telling all his teammates came back to bite them, granted the completely random timing of Woodson's hit could not have been predicted.
@@cmaceaton5889 Allen didn't just overhear the play. He purposefully hid behind someone to hear the play. Same thing as if he would have peeked at the sheet to see a play. In school if you would have peeked at the answer key is that considered cheating? Of course.
The rule went against common sense, hence why the league got rid of it. Clearly by watching the play, Tom pump faked, and went to throw the ball again and got popped. Clearly a fumble no matter the rules or era. But because refs are often terrible at their jobs the pats got away with it
27:55 I mean, the Patriots earned the bye-week when 2nd seeds were allowed to have them, but Robert Kraft requesting the night slot during the snowstorm was blatant tho 🤣
They made up a rule to protect Brady it was for Brady because I find it funny after Brady won all those super bowl THEN,... They take the tuck rule out lol
actually Woodson illegally hit Brady in the head before popping it out which is ironic because in 1976 the Raiders won their 1st SB after beating the Pats in a playoff game due in large part to a roughing the passer penalty referee Ben Drieth called on Pats DL Sugar Bear Hamilton for hitting Stabler in the head...what goes around comes around...the tuck ruling was a correct application ff the rule to begin with, and if the ref had called woodson for the penatly he got away with the 15yds and automatic 1st down awarded to NE as a result would have made the tuck/fumble debate into a moot point...ruclips.net/video/vlWTni5vv20/видео.html
You know what’s even more amazing that I fail to think off because it was a fumble. You need inconclusive evidence to overturn. There wasn’t !!! Game was fixed !!! They hated Al Davis !!
ruclips.net/video/cEk2wR6JpoY/видео.html like it or not the refs made the same call to prevent the pats defense from recovering a fumble in the last game the pats played before their div playoff matchup against the raiders 2 weeks earlier in carolina.
they actually had several reasons according to the rulebook-the pats had a fumble recovery taken away from their defense 2weeks before that game btw, heres the proof... ruclips.net/video/cEk2wR6JpoY/видео.html also Woodson illegally hit Brady in the head before jarring the ball loose...if the ref had gotten the call correctly that penalty on Woodson he missed would have given the Pats an automatic 1st down and negated the entire debate of whether or not its a fumble or a correct application of the tuck rule...again heres the proof. ruclips.net/video/cX3u29qf9s8/видео.html BTW for those who arent aware of the full history between those 2 franchises the Raiders won their 1st SB in 1976 after the refs granted them new life on their final possession of a playoff game they were losing to NE at the time...Referee Ben Dreith called a roughing the QB penalty on Sugar Bear Hamilton for hitting Stabler in the head...look it up
I played a little defensive back and safety in Highschool and College. I was lucky enough to be a part some good plays in my short time and I can say that making a play like that is HUGE. I can only imagine what they feel like at the professional level and eventually against "The Goat"! I feel for Woodson in this situation!
So I was wondering if you lose the ball as you pump fake, is that a fumble? I love Brady and Woodson (GO BLUE) but if I was to make that call, I would have said fumble
It was revenge served cold, 25 years later, for the Sugar Bear Hamilton roughing the passer penalty on Ken Stabler in the 1976 season AFC Divisional Playoff Game.
This is weak!!! Sugar Bear Hamilton literally hit Kenny Stabler in the head and correctly incurred a penalty. Not only did the Patriots surrender an 11 point lead they let up a first down on a stupid penalty. Patriots made mistakes and the Raiders didn’t. Now what happened in this game was ultra silly despite it being the “correct call.” This call was terrible. Completely different situations.
@@justinhiggins4783 It wasn't a penalty and if that was RTP, then so was the Brady play at Arrowhead in 18. Raiders blew a 10 point 4th quarter lead and they made mistakes while the Pats didn't. Educate yourself.
No Tim Brown ya not wrong...there was a time in Raider history they could do no wrong..on the field they always got the close calls in their favor...when guys like Casper were playing tight end...etc..but So Davis ended all that by not picking the NFL owners to death...in & out of courts...constantly...so when the time came to get even & put the screws to Mr Davis..that's exactly what the League did..it was a long time in the making but that's what the owners did...& it was..a collusion & collective effort...by all concerned...my heart goes out to all those great Raider players...even though I'm a Patriot fan...& a TB12 fan when he was @ Michigan...bc nobody but nobody wanted this kid...199..in the 6th round??? What do you think!!!??? so anyway...David did it to himself...I must feel so bad for players who got burned in the process....it didn't matter what Brady was gonna do or not do...it was always about how the League Oweners were gonna get their...vengeance!!!...& the rest is...history...& so am I I'm out...O.U.P.!!!
8:55 it is clear like water, the arm is going foward and the left hand never secure the ball. I mean, the rule was very clear, not like the completed pass as an example.
@@quinndawsonosgood5261 not according to the rules at the time furthermore before the ball came out woodson illegally hit brady in the head with the hand he used to jar the ball loose a half second before knocking it loose...the penalty if called would have rendered the entire issue a moot point
@@dp233332 Brady was holding the ball with 2 hands when Woodson made contact. It was a fumble imho. It is why the NFL ditched that ambiguous rule in 2019.
@@quinndawsonosgood5261 he wasnt holding it with two hands woodson hit it into his other hand before Brady could even put it on the ball let alone fully gather it and youre ignoring the fact that hitting a qb in the head has been illegal since the 1970s!!!
Clearly a fumble but alot of assumptions to think the raiders would've gone to Pittsburgh and then beat the Rams. Besides, they got a shot at redemption in the Superbowl the following season and got crushed...
It's a fumble but my question is why is it whenever a bad call is made people think the game is over? it's not like they automatically won after that why couldn't they stop them in OT or from getting into FG range to tie the game up
@@BcBTheta The refs are somewhat involved in Literally every single play somewhat I'm not arguing that they missed the call and that it was a fumble but they had a chance to stop them again and also in OT if the raiders won after that call no one would be talking about it today.
Well its also because the Raiders were just so defeated mentally think about it you go from wining to having to immediately go back and continue as if nothing happened its so demoralizing for a team
This is the problem with the situation, if the rules is your side you don’t have problem with it but if it against your side there’s a problem. As far as I know the Tuck rule wasn’t created during that game, it was created in 1999 so if nobody knows it then someone needs to be fired for not doing their job.
As I was watching the video, I kept thinking the same. It seems that it was called that way multiple times in the past, including in the games earlier in the year. For regular fans, I can understand if they are not aware of the rule. But for players to continue to say it; and for Gruden to claim he never heard it; and they all wonder why BB is such a 'wicked good' coach.
@@mnarahari that’s the reason they won so many championship cuz they know everything. Even on getting and signing players, BB using TB as a bargaining chips, if he can pay TB12 by only this much why would I pay you more.
In all those replays of the tuck rule being used in other games, each time the ball wasn’t forced out and they were truly incomplete passes and those were where the tuck rule provides clarity. In Foxboro, the tuck rule applied as an excuse and was incorrect application of the rule. Close, but the tape doesn’t lie. It was deliberate, had to of been.
@@fattireale75false I seen every game where the tuck rule was used and they would all be fumbles in todays game just like Brady’s would y’all just try to push a fake narrative to fit what y’all believe in 😂
@@kevonsidek9737 if it wasn’t deliberate, it was a bad call since the tuck motion had ended when Brady’s left hand was on the ball when Woodson slapped it out. It was a bad call whether it was deliberate or not.
Tucking it back is part of the natural movement of the play and if a hit other than on the arm causes the ball to come out its a fumble. In the video Kraft showed toms arm-was not going forward but was clearly in a non passing position I’m a pats fan and yeah I’ll take it Retribution came when Eli wasn’t called for being in the grasp in the undefeated season but that only happened because asaumte frying pan hands couldn’t hold on for the interception
“Worst call in sports history?” How about roughing the passer 25 years earlier? This was payback for Ben Dreith, who handed the Patriot victory to the Raiders. And that was not the only bad call that day. On 3rd and 6, with the Pats taking a knee on a first down, Russ Francis was held. He looked over at Ben Dreith, who turned his head away.
@@juggmkj oh yeah because the NFL saw the potential of the 199th overall pick on a team that had never won a superbowl, that previously went 5-11 and thought..."THIS THIS is the team".
its also embarrassing how presumptive the Raiders and their fans are about what would have happened had the ruling gone the other way...they assume they would have gotten to or even won the SB despite the fact that they didnt have a team that was as well rounded mentally tough, or complete as NEs...The pats were exceptionally well balanced., deep...They had such depth that their backup QB going into the playoffs was Drew Bledsoe, a better starter/passer than the Steelers starting QB Kordell actually was, which proved quite necessary in order to get thru that AFCCG once Bradys ankle got injured...The Raiders had no depth of that sort at QB...1 yr earlier Gannon had gotten injured by Siragusa during the AFCCG and look how that went for their offense without him...Does anyone even remember who his backup was during that game or in 2001? As far as mental toughness goes one of the Raiders best offensive lineman, Barrett Robins, went awol/no showed the weekend of SBXXXVII-a game he was about to be playing in 1 yr later...They didnt have a defense that was capable of flattening the bus's tires nor of matching up with and knocking the snot out of those Rams WRs on turf..They were a team with somewhat of a 1 dimensional offense, 1 which arguably was a bit too pass heavy and old given the rules of the era they were competing during, and a defense that was a lil weak-had some decent def players like C.Woodson but aged and underwhelming players at other positions...Raiders defense by no means resembled the collectively overwhelming, well-oiled machine that NE boasted at LB, DB, and DL...They also didnt have anything resembling that 2001 Patriots special teams unit....That NE STs may not have been all world at returning KOs like the GSOT was, but overall it was the best by far, a group which blocked FGs and returned them for TDs, had a punt returner who could take it to the house, a punter who pinned everthing within the 20, had guys like Vrabel Izzo Cherry and Antoine Harris as well as other DBs like T.Buckley who were good enough to be starters on many if not most other defensive rosters, all pitching in, and it goes without saying that they had the best clutch kicker in history...All of those things proved vital during the final 3 games of their journey...Raiders basically had 1 way to beat their opponents...Pats could do it in almost every way when needed...Martz has said he actually felt at the time that the 2001 Pats team was the best team overall that hed seen asssembled since hed began coaching. After losing to the Pats in SB 36 the Rams never won a game with Warner as their starter again...They lost their 1st handful of games during Sept of 2002 until benching Kurt and inserting Marc Bulger into the lineup just in time to play the eventual AFC champion Oakland Raiders...The Raiders, who were undefeated at the time and on a mission, proved to be utterly unable to contain the Rams offensive weapons in 2002-even with Marc Bulger in the lineup replacing Warner while starting for the 1st time in his career. The Warnerless Rams beat the Raiders convincingly, handing the Raiders their 1st loss of the 2002 regular season...Frankly I doubt the Raiders would have even been able to beat the Steelers in that AFCCG in Pittsburgh let alone forever ruin/end the GSOT while playing on turf...
You can see clearly its a fumble , & watch how the ball hits his other hand that automatically makes it a fumble whether he meant for the ball to hit his hamd.
Imagine if people focused on the "First team to score wins" overtime instead of that correct ruling on the tuck call it doesn't come down to a coinflip. But that's my take.
As a football fan who watched that game as a neutral observer, I sort of liked the call because it kept the game alive. Tom had played well and I remember wondering if something was being born in that game and football is an entertainment business and I was entertained, that’s my side of it.
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The way Brady laughs, even he knows it was a fumble.
what the refs did had nothing to do with Tommy
@@bretherenlee1404 no one said it did, but still doesn’t take away from the fact that he knew he wasn’t throwing that ball and he knew that call was bs but I would’ve done the same thing he did.
@@7Sheepdog7 like i said Tommy aint got nothing to do with none of that. he didnt review the call and the patriots did not throw a challenge flag. the only one in the picture for any blame at all is refs and the nfl
@@bretherenlee1404 who the hell said he had anything to do with it? Are you mentally challenged. My god, all I said was the way Tom laughed in the interview, he knew it was a fumble. Now here you come along arguing some senseless crap. Bro go read a book or take your ass to sleep.
tom brady on tiktok just said it was a fumble
22:13 “you know you’re not going to be the starting quarterback if you lose a game at home, in the snow, to a team from California.” Somebody tell Aaron Rodgers!!!
U did wrong😂
Omg 💀💀💀 W
You think Jordan is gonna win it all next year? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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But he is. Clown
It's 2022 and I still get pissed when I hear that ref call that an incomplete pass.
I live in New England, about an hour away from the stadium where the game took place. I had just gotten a job delivering pizza that week and told the lady I would take the job as long as I had that night off to watch the game. Because of the snow they tried to get me to come in, saying I'd be fired if I didn't. I said "peace" and lost the job but got to watch this game in real time.
It was eerie out that night, gigantic flakes of snow with almost balmy quiet weather. Especially with everything that happened that previous year, that night had this really intense energy in the air around here. We had some friends over and put away a case of Heineken and a bottle of Yukon Jack and had a big snowball fight outside after the game. Every time I see footage of this game it takes me right back there, makes me want a beer and a shot;)
The description you gave, it was like if I was watching a movie.
They have meetings you can go to for that craving you know.
I grew up in Rhode Island. I was 5 years old when this game took place and I have memories of watching this game on TV
Write a book
And your point is? You got drunk, watched an obviously rigged football game and had a hangover. Cool story.
Think of how much things are different without this one moment. Brady and Patriots never become what they become, Jon Gruden doesnt leave the Raiders, the Bucs dont win in 2002 , some of the things just from the top of my head. The most consequential NFL play of the last of 25 years.
Bruh stfu clown you swear Brady never wins a ring clown what about the last year’s in New England smh what about the Bucs you swear it all falls into order cuz your clown ass can tell the future if certain moments don’t happen. 😂😂😂
So by your comment your saying we never would have found John Gruden’s racist emails right 😂😂😂
Your a clown that’s not how life works 1 thing doesn’t happen and the rest continues right.
Funny how you clowns don’t know the “Tuck Rule” but it is as in play when Peyton got drafted and before he was drafted so what does that tell you clown ass fan’s y’all don’t know shit about football.
The Tuck Rule was in place before Peyton got drafted so why y’all hating and I’m not even a pats fan.
So Wilson not handing it off to beast mode then that fucked up everything to right.
What about the Raiders not changing up the play calls since John knew them all smh like no one knows what would happen in life.
So you knew about Hernandez right so you knew that what about Watson you knew about that right if one thing doesn’t happen then none of that happens either so what about Favre if the Saints don’t cheat with bounty bowl they don’t win right.
It’s funny how people like you think 1 think changes you can change the course of history. Have you ever heard of the sayin “history is due to repeat itself”?
ignore the psycho above me but come on lmfao they would've 100% still have won the other SBs.
@@GxxdyGxxdrich you're right though...
STILL hurts like a knife stuck in my gut. The fact that the "Tuck Rule" was so quickly dropped, yeah, it was a bogus rule. If that was considered "an incomplete pass," then there is no such thing as intentional grounding!
Wasn't just the pats who benefited from it
In todays ruling, there would be a roughing the passer to Woodson for hitting the QBs head. That would’ve superseded the fumble.
And we still don’t know what a completion is.
It wasn't quickly dropped, it stayed on the books for 12 more seasons.
Intentional grounding doesn’t apply if there’s contact on the throw. Even in todays game, if a QB is targeting a receiver and gets popped as he throws and the ball goes flailing into no man’s land, the intentional grounding rule would not apply
25:04 charles woodson described it best.
I watched the entire damn video and realized it’s obviously a fumble.
I'm a Patriots fan thank you Walt Coleman for saving Patriots season in 2001 AFC divisional playoffs and the Superbowl that started the Patriots dynasty's and after the tuck rule Walt Coleman had never official Raiders game and Walt Coleman did 17 New England games and it will never go away.
Coleman corrupt AF. I'm guessing he was wired up and got a call from someone in the booth or higher up. Shit like this still going on. The non call on PI in the Saints v Rams game comes to mind and robbed football fans of a Brees v Brady match up.
The League wanted the Patriots in that Super Bowl; it was 9-11, the pretty All-American "underdog" QB...it was too perfect a script for Charles Woodson to ruin.
What I've been saying for 20 years.
The League didn’t kick those field goals.
@@johncaparulo4800 no but they did miss all those pass interference calls 😉
they've protected pretty boy since the get. that had to be the worst call ever! he had both hands on the ball when he fumbled it! he coulda been nobody if not for the league and especially the refs. now he's the goat.
Sounds like a pretty gae culture 😂
Bill Bellichick doesn’t cry. His tears ask him permission to leave.
Real football fans know it was a BS call no matter what team you support.
It was a incomplete pass back then he was motioning and throwing da ball alot of you fans just don’t know shit about sports and the rules
Real football fans know it was a BS RULE, correct call.
Bad ruling, good call. I can’t even complain as a raiders fan, we’re historical cheaters 😭
Exactly I’m a Patriots Fan and I’ve been a fan since 1993 and I even know that was a fumble. Oakland definitely got screwed that night.
that's the right call fs foh
I'm a die hard Chiefs fan and as much as I hate the Raiders that was a fumble no questions asked. I hate the Raiders but they got cheated.
I respect your honesty
No one got cheated that was the rule.
Great teams overcome adversity
@@ppags84 that rule was flawed allowing human error due to an untested and unnecessary rule that was unfortunately applied by compromised refereeing. The evidence is that it was the launching pad for the Goat.
So just cause your a chiefs fan and hate the raiders your right man that makes so much since
Dude there’s literally a rule saying it’s an incomplete pass. It’s not like they just decided to make it up on the spot. It’s a dumb rule, but it’s still a rule.
Thank god for Instant replay, it makes every call perfect, and every fan happy.
They had instant replay, hello, the tuck rule was the big deal here. It's gone like all of us are going to be one day because we are sinners. So make sure you repent of all your sins, past,, present, and future, and have Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in His will. God bless you and all who have surrendered, and walk with Elohi, guided by the Holy Spirit !!!!!!!
hello, yeah, Barry was being sarcastic. Goodbye
The beginning of Theater Football. Jon’s super bowl was set up over night in the trade. Very strange time in the NFL and hasn’t been the same since. They get away with controlling games almost every week now.
They have to give you game of football as you call it. And they do. Fixing it is not against the rules if NFL does it.
This is a brilliant documentary 👏
*He pumped the ball then put two hands on the ball, it's a fumble.*
They read the rule, out loud, in the first minute of the video…
Had a feeling Gruden felt that way eyes never lie ✊🏾💪🏾🌍💯
I'm not surprised that Walt Coleman never did another Raiders' home game. That's common sense. The man's safety would have been in question. I do find it strange that he never had them again on the road.
The legacy of the "tuck rule" is the story of destiny. It is tied to the legacy of life itself. It is the old tale of the halves and the have-nots. You can never escape your destiny.
The NFL GAVE this one to Brady. Everyone knows it.
Yeah.....what they gave him was opportunity. The Raiders still failed to play defense in overtime. Case closed.
I don't think they gave it to Brady as much as they took it from the Raiders. There was no love lost between the AL Davis and the league
Yeah gave it over to sixth Rd pick grow up
@@cujbj1 People forget that. Someone with the inclination finally looked into _ALL_ the luck Brady has had & this ruclips.net/video/1SxpiE0_FNY/видео.html is only one of I don't know how many videos he's done on the subject. I may be the only who seriously thinks this, but social psychology has taught me that words affect people.
& these were "the _Patriots"_ at a very important time.
The fact it took 12 minutes to review tells you they were pulling this BS rule out of their asses.
True and Raiders have always been hated especially when AL Davis was around but I don’t care what anyone says I have always believed ever since that night that since 9/11 happened the year before and at the time Everyone was very patriotic rightfully so and it was a team from the east coast near to New York had a lot to do with it
@@jesusdeloera1921 I have heard this theory as well and believe it.
It's so clear he was throwing though. I mean raiders make a couple plays they win. Raiders were a great team they choked that's real story
It was a real rule how was they pulling it out their ass? Think like a logical fan instead of a hurt n bitter one goofy
@@jesusdeloera1921man that’s bs that’s just dumb ass conspiracy theories yall be creating
Congratulations on your run in Lemans. Though it wasn't a win, a third place podium spot is nothing to hang your head low over. That is an outstanding accomplishment that will hopefully continue this racing program. The proud owner of two mustangs,who just had a distance cousin, that took on Lemans.
I was in Oakland watching that game. The whole city went from cheering thinking the Raiders won to a wtf. You could literally hear everyone in the Town yelling wtf.
try being there in 1972 for the bs immaculate reception or the 1977 rob lytle non-fumble! 3 championships taken away by the referees.
That call was paramount until the pass interference not being called in the saints game years later.
That PI was way worse because at least the tuck rule can be debated because there was that rule in place. The PI is so blatant, there's no debating it.
Why did I go go this far down the comment section? ☹️ Who Dat
In a another time, Gurden got the epic career. He’s a good man, so I don’t want to disrespect the life he’s had bc he is a successful man. But man, it’s crazy to think what Football History could’ve been.
Lmao, who knows if the raiders would’ve even won the next game? Brady has more Super Bowl wins than anyone else and this is somewhat inconsequential in his story. Even if he lost that year, he still would’ve had the most rings. To think he wouldn’t have been a starter the next year is nuts. Belichick wouldve still had a solid team and one several super bowls of this call wasn’t overturned
This is Woodson's "laces out" 😂
One of my favorite documentaries because you can see the Patriots know that's a fumble too
Belichick says otherwise
I agree with the idea that it's not a fumble but the rule at the time said it wasn't and it was consistently called that whole season - not just in this game. It should've never been a rule to begin with.
That Vinny testaverde play was not the same at all
They were looking for anything to overturn that call and they found it.
It was a Fumble..... Anyone who say that play knows it was a Fumble. As the Man said they were looking for for a way to screw the Raiders. The same exact thing happens to my Bears and every other team the Refs simply don't like or are ordered to screw over.
Wasnt a fumble, it was tucked..duh
When Bill Belichick says it was the Similar play to when they played the Jets that’s such horseshit it’s two totally different situations. Testaverde was in the throwing motion when he got hit.. Brady was bringing the ball back already. Bullshit it will always be bullshit
100% CORRECT! that play was WAY different. Bill is BS
I know, I'm sitting here like it's not even close.
Nosa
Patriots: It’S An iNcOmpLetE PaSs
The other 31 teams: Fumble.
I was at that game and the first time I saw that replay I knew it was going to be overturned. I saw almost the exact same play with Kurt Warner earlier in the season and it was called an incomplete pass.
Lmao no this was bullshit. Not a fumble.
I remember the moment I was a patriot fan but now looking at it for a more neutral side it’s definitely a fumble
Yeah but I mean I'm not complaining
I’ve been a lifelong Raider fan and I don’t think they needed to get rid of the rule, as obscure as it was. It was just the wrong call. Despite the ball ceasing to go forward when the ball was secured in Brady’s left hand, Walt Coleman failed to recognize the ball being forced out after that moment, as quick as it was. That is what instant replay is for, to correct a call or to confirm it. The league offices failed if it wasn’t all Coleman making the final change. If it wasn’t a mistake, then it was purely deliberate to overturn that call. I don’t think they were considering the term “indisputable” when looking at that replay, that’s for sure. Oh well. It made for great theater especially with Patriots leading the charge after the 9/11 attacks. Couldn’t have a bunch of Raider/terrorists represent, right?
They did sit down and discuss it in detail. Woodson and Brady. In the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary "The Tuck Rule".
After all these years that rule still doesn't make much sense
That's why the rule is no more, I believe it was removed in 2019. God bless you.
@@TSISKENU my god bless you too my brother
Thought it had to be irrefutable evidence. Thats the thing that gets me about this whole thing, how did they get to irrefutable, it was wayy too close to overturn that.
I was always under the impression that the tuck rule was made up out of thin air that night just to keep us from winning the game. They showed several games that same year with other teams where the refs made the same call. Is that bullshit??? Is someone trying to spin the narrative. I never heard of the tuck rule until that horrible night we lost that game. Now Im seeing footage of other quarterbacks doing the same motion having the same results and the refs making the same exact call. No Fumble WTF
The ref should have not made that call and nobody in history would have said a damn thing about it! Sometimes a no call is a good call!
Its funny because Brady admits he doesnt know about the rule and it is very obvious he doesnt. Under the tuck rule it doesnt matter whether or not he was trying to throw a pass, so he should just be honest and say he was not trying to throw a pass and that he was faking a throw. The question is did he get hit before or after he finished tucking the ball, and the truth is that it was so close that there is no way he would know that.
How about Eric Allen admitting that he was eavesdropping on the play call from Weis to Brady - then tells the huddle, tells them the pass is coming backside! Then Eric Allen says "he feels cheated". To take it a step further...if Eric Allen doesn't eavesdrop on the play call, then Woodson doesn't know he'll have a completely open frontside blitz, the play doesn't happen. Then Eric Allen also says "if Woodson doesn't hit Brady, I'm gonna get a pick". There's A LOT that goes into any single play, and certainly Eric Allen's eavesdropping on the play call and telling all his teammates came back to bite them, granted the completely random timing of Woodson's hit could not have been predicted.
It’s cheating to overhear the playcall? That’s not on Eric that’s on them for giving it away wtf
@@cmaceaton5889 Allen didn't just overhear the play. He purposefully hid behind someone to hear the play. Same thing as if he would have peeked at the sheet to see a play. In school if you would have peeked at the answer key is that considered cheating? Of course.
Don't get why more people don't talk about this. His cheating almost won them the game unfairly
That was a fumble and not only a fumble, thats the biggest robbery in NFL history
Saints might disagree with u
It’s not a fumble literally by the rule book of the nfl so grow up
The rule went against common sense, hence why the league got rid of it. Clearly by watching the play, Tom pump faked, and went to throw the ball again and got popped. Clearly a fumble no matter the rules or era. But because refs are often terrible at their jobs the pats got away with it
27:55 I mean, the Patriots earned the bye-week when 2nd seeds were allowed to have them, but Robert Kraft requesting the night slot during the snowstorm was blatant tho 🤣
Raiders are cursed.
There's a reason they got rid of that BS call.... after the Raiders got screwed of course
The rule still exists
That bullshit call made Brady famous... oh, all the cheating too. Can't forget that
They made up a rule to protect Brady it was for Brady because I find it funny after Brady won all those super bowl THEN,... They take the tuck rule out lol
Nothing fishy there 🙄 lol.
wasn't the tuck rule literally made in 1999 bec of kurt warner? brady wasn't even drfted by then but that's definitely a fumble now
It’s a fumble that simple!! He never got the ball out , held it for too long and Woodson popped it out !!!!
actually Woodson illegally hit Brady in the head before popping it out which is ironic because in 1976 the Raiders won their 1st SB after beating the Pats in a playoff game due in large part to a roughing the passer penalty referee Ben Drieth called on Pats DL Sugar Bear Hamilton for hitting Stabler in the head...what goes around comes around...the tuck ruling was a correct application ff the rule to begin with, and if the ref had called woodson for the penatly he got away with the 15yds and automatic 1st down awarded to NE as a result would have made the tuck/fumble debate into a moot point...ruclips.net/video/vlWTni5vv20/видео.html
You know what’s even more amazing that I fail to think off because it was a fumble. You need inconclusive evidence to overturn. There wasn’t !!!
Game was fixed !!!
They hated Al Davis !!
ruclips.net/video/cEk2wR6JpoY/видео.html like it or not the refs made the same call to prevent the pats defense from recovering a fumble in the last game the pats played before their div playoff matchup against the raiders 2 weeks earlier in carolina.
They had good reasons for hating Al
Tim Brown said it best. "They were looking for a reason to over turn the call".
Yeah they definitely didnt just follow the rule book lmao
It had to be racism
they actually had several reasons according to the rulebook-the pats had a fumble recovery taken away from their defense 2weeks before that game btw, heres the proof...
ruclips.net/video/cEk2wR6JpoY/видео.html
also Woodson illegally hit Brady in the head before jarring the ball loose...if the ref had gotten the call correctly that penalty on Woodson he missed would have given the Pats an automatic 1st down and negated the entire debate of whether or not its a fumble or a correct application of the tuck rule...again heres the proof.
ruclips.net/video/cX3u29qf9s8/видео.html
BTW for those who arent aware of the full history between those 2 franchises the Raiders won their 1st SB in 1976 after the refs granted them new life on their final possession of a playoff game they were losing to NE at the time...Referee Ben Dreith called a roughing the QB penalty on Sugar Bear Hamilton for hitting Stabler in the head...look it up
@@dp233332 same goes for these two instances:
ruclips.net/video/HdAXN71Jvac/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/aLinvznUn6c/видео.html
Because the NFL hated Al Davis, right?
Once the ball meets the qb's opposite hand the ball is tucked and the act of tucking is over. It was a fumble.
I played a little defensive back and safety in Highschool and College. I was lucky enough to be a part some good plays in my short time and I can say that making a play like that is HUGE.
I can only imagine what they feel like at the professional level and eventually against "The Goat"!
I feel for Woodson in this situation!
He wasn't "The GOAT" at the time. Not even close yet.
So I was wondering if you lose the ball as you pump fake, is that a fumble? I love Brady and Woodson (GO BLUE) but if I was to make that call, I would have said fumble
It was revenge served cold, 25 years later, for the Sugar Bear Hamilton roughing the passer penalty on Ken Stabler in the 1976 season AFC Divisional Playoff Game.
This is weak!!! Sugar Bear Hamilton literally hit Kenny Stabler in the head and correctly incurred a penalty. Not only did the Patriots surrender an 11 point lead they let up a first down on a stupid penalty. Patriots made mistakes and the Raiders didn’t.
Now what happened in this game was ultra silly despite it being the “correct call.” This call was terrible. Completely different situations.
@@justinhiggins4783 It wasn't a penalty and if that was RTP, then so was the Brady play at Arrowhead in 18. Raiders blew a 10 point 4th quarter lead and they made mistakes while the Pats didn't. Educate yourself.
Somewhere in another parallel universe that play was called a fumble by the ref and the Raiders went on to win SuperBowl XXXVI.
This pissed me off all over again!
No Tim Brown ya not wrong...there was a time in Raider history they could do no wrong..on the field they always got the close calls in their favor...when guys like Casper were playing tight end...etc..but So Davis ended all that by not picking the NFL owners to death...in & out of courts...constantly...so when the time came to get even & put the screws to Mr Davis..that's exactly what the League did..it was a long time in the making but that's what the owners did...& it was..a collusion & collective effort...by all concerned...my heart goes out to all those great Raider players...even though I'm a Patriot fan...& a TB12 fan when he was @ Michigan...bc nobody but nobody wanted this kid...199..in the 6th round??? What do you think!!!??? so anyway...David did it to himself...I must feel so bad for players who got burned in the process....it didn't matter what Brady was gonna do or not do...it was always about how the League Oweners were gonna get their...vengeance!!!...& the rest is...history...& so am I I'm out...O.U.P.!!!
Okay, someone tell me how it's possible to throw a pass and tuck the ball at the same exact time..
Imagine when Brady on his death bed years from now and he admits to it being a fumble. Shit would be crazy.
It's the coaches in the players responsibility to know all the rules Gruden didn't know the rule that's on him
Belachick it wasn't a fumble when jets quarterbacks arm was coming forward
8:55 it is clear like water, the arm is going foward and the left hand never secure the ball. I mean, the rule was very clear, not like the completed pass as an example.
That was absolutely the right ruling according to what was an awfully written rule.
As a die hard pats fan it was a fumble but the raiders still had plenty of opportunities to get the ball back
this happened 2 weeks before that game and the refs gave carolina the ball back...ruclips.net/video/cEk2wR6JpoY/видео.html
Yeah, I'm a Pats fan too, it was a fumble
@@quinndawsonosgood5261 not according to the rules at the time furthermore before the ball came out woodson illegally hit brady in the head with the hand he used to jar the ball loose a half second before knocking it loose...the penalty if called would have rendered the entire issue a moot point
@@dp233332 Brady was holding the ball with 2 hands when Woodson made contact. It was a fumble imho. It is why the NFL ditched that ambiguous rule in 2019.
@@quinndawsonosgood5261 he wasnt holding it with two hands woodson hit it into his other hand before Brady could even put it on the ball let alone fully gather it and youre ignoring the fact that hitting a qb in the head has been illegal since the 1970s!!!
That cost the Steelers a SB that year. Steelers would of beat Oakland then won the SB but they always had problems with Patriots.
It woulda been the first Raiders v Steelers playoff game since the 1970’s. Now it might not happen
Clearly a fumble but alot of assumptions to think the raiders would've gone to Pittsburgh and then beat the Rams. Besides, they got a shot at redemption in the Superbowl the following season and got crushed...
It's a fumble but my question is why is it whenever a bad call is made people think the game is over? it's not like they automatically won after that why couldn't they stop them in OT or from getting into FG range to tie the game up
Because if they made the right call the raiders would’ve won
@@NtltcStan true but if you rely on the refs to make the right call every single time to win games yoyes not going to be very successful in any sport
@@trayisraw the refs should’ve never been involved in this play, it was a clear fumble
@@BcBTheta The refs are somewhat involved in Literally every single play somewhat I'm not arguing that they missed the call and that it was a fumble but they had a chance to stop them again and also in OT if the raiders won after that call no one would be talking about it today.
Well its also because the Raiders were just so defeated mentally think about it you go from wining to having to immediately go back and continue as if nothing happened its so demoralizing for a team
Brady like LeBron is allowed to play a different game as their league makes money.
That's false
That just shows you what being a patriot 🇺🇸 versus being a pirate 🏴☠️ gets you!
I am a University of Michigan man (where Tom played in college) and I was born and raised in Michigan... that was 100% of fumble.
Yeah buy the dude who made the play was a Wolverine also lol so you should be on Chuck Woodsons side of the argument anyway haha
On the next NFL network, TimeLine, the game that ignited Jon Gruden vulgar explicit behavior to send out emails on the NFL system.
This is the problem with the situation, if the rules is your side you don’t have problem with it but if it against your side there’s a problem.
As far as I know the Tuck rule wasn’t created during that game, it was created in 1999 so if nobody knows it then someone needs to be fired for not doing their job.
As I was watching the video, I kept thinking the same. It seems that it was called that way multiple times in the past, including in the games earlier in the year. For regular fans, I can understand if they are not aware of the rule. But for players to continue to say it; and for Gruden to claim he never heard it; and they all wonder why BB is such a 'wicked good' coach.
@@mnarahari that’s the reason they won so many championship cuz they know everything. Even on getting and signing players, BB using TB as a bargaining chips, if he can pay TB12 by only this much why would I pay you more.
@@mnarahari Bra! A fumble is a fumble! You can put a lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig!
Please prepare for collective bargaining agreement
The ball never left Brady's hands, 100% A Fumble.PERIOD‼️💯🎯
In all those replays of the tuck rule being used in other games, each time the ball wasn’t forced out and they were truly incomplete passes and those were where the tuck rule provides clarity. In Foxboro, the tuck rule applied as an excuse and was incorrect application of the rule. Close, but the tape doesn’t lie. It was deliberate, had to of been.
@@fattireale75false I seen every game where the tuck rule was used and they would all be fumbles in todays game just like Brady’s would y’all just try to push a fake narrative to fit what y’all believe in 😂
@@kevonsidek9737 if it wasn’t deliberate, it was a bad call since the tuck motion had ended when Brady’s left hand was on the ball when Woodson slapped it out. It was a bad call whether it was deliberate or not.
The Tuck Rule.
Also known as the Fuck Rule in Oakland, C.A
Tucking it back is part of the natural movement of the play and if a hit other than on the arm causes the ball to come out its a fumble.
In the video Kraft showed toms arm-was not going forward but was clearly in a non passing position
I’m a pats fan and yeah I’ll take it
Retribution came when Eli wasn’t called for being in the grasp in the undefeated season but that only happened because asaumte frying pan hands couldn’t hold on for the interception
They changed that rule. It would be a fumble now
It was a fumble then too, the refs just fucked up a simple, obvious call
I’m a Tom Brady fan but that one play was a fumble…
Nosa
If you delve deeper into this,The War,and the Tuck Rule, robbed this young coach of his career
What? So no Buccaneers? Hahaha youre a moron... And gruden got his racist ass removed by himself...
Raiders have never recovered, Patriots went on to become the greatest franchise in history. Rules are the rules
Raiders went to a super bowl the very next year lol
@@waltjisneychannel74 if you call going to superbowl only to be embarrassed by the coach you traded the year before a success, you do you
“Worst call in sports history?” How about roughing the passer 25 years earlier? This was payback for Ben Dreith, who handed the Patriot victory to the Raiders. And that was not the only bad call that day. On 3rd and 6, with the Pats taking a knee on a first down, Russ Francis was held. He looked over at Ben Dreith, who turned his head away.
Nah, this was way worse...but was used purposely to promote/showcase the NFL and Tom Brady to unmatched levels over the next 20 years.
@@juggmkj oh yeah because the NFL saw the potential of the 199th overall pick on a team that had never won a superbowl, that previously went 5-11 and thought..."THIS THIS is the team".
This is right up there with the PI call against UM in the championship game against Ohio State.
"Back where it all began."
I think this call was 👍. This didn't even decide the game. Vintari kicked a bomb field goal in a noreaster.
does it matter. for all we know we can say, he was spiking the ball. lmaoo
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Such a historic game...I remember watching it.
its also embarrassing how presumptive the Raiders and their fans are about what would have happened had the ruling gone the other way...they assume they would have gotten to or even won the SB despite the fact that they didnt have a team that was as well rounded mentally tough, or complete as NEs...The pats were exceptionally well balanced., deep...They had such depth that their backup QB going into the playoffs was Drew Bledsoe, a better starter/passer than the Steelers starting QB Kordell actually was, which proved quite necessary in order to get thru that AFCCG once Bradys ankle got injured...The Raiders had no depth of that sort at QB...1 yr earlier Gannon had gotten injured by Siragusa during the AFCCG and look how that went for their offense without him...Does anyone even remember who his backup was during that game or in 2001? As far as mental toughness goes one of the Raiders best offensive lineman, Barrett Robins, went awol/no showed the weekend of SBXXXVII-a game he was about to be playing in 1 yr later...They didnt have a defense that was capable of flattening the bus's tires nor of matching up with and knocking the snot out of those Rams WRs on turf..They were a team with somewhat of a 1 dimensional offense, 1 which arguably was a bit too pass heavy and old given the rules of the era they were competing during, and a defense that was a lil weak-had some decent def players like C.Woodson but aged and underwhelming players at other positions...Raiders defense by no means resembled the collectively overwhelming, well-oiled machine that NE boasted at LB, DB, and DL...They also didnt have anything resembling that 2001 Patriots special teams unit....That NE STs may not have been all world at returning KOs like the GSOT was, but overall it was the best by far, a group which blocked FGs and returned them for TDs, had a punt returner who could take it to the house, a punter who pinned everthing within the 20, had guys like Vrabel Izzo Cherry and Antoine Harris as well as other DBs like T.Buckley who were good enough to be starters on many if not most other defensive rosters, all pitching in, and it goes without saying that they had the best clutch kicker in history...All of those things proved vital during the final 3 games of their journey...Raiders basically had 1 way to beat their opponents...Pats could do it in almost every way when needed...Martz has said he actually felt at the time that the 2001 Pats team was the best team overall that hed seen asssembled since hed began coaching.
After losing to the Pats in SB 36 the Rams never won a game with Warner as their starter again...They lost their 1st handful of games during Sept of 2002 until benching Kurt and inserting Marc Bulger into the lineup just in time to play the eventual AFC champion Oakland Raiders...The Raiders, who were undefeated at the time and on a mission, proved to be utterly unable to contain the Rams offensive weapons in 2002-even with Marc Bulger in the lineup replacing Warner while starting for the 1st time in his career. The Warnerless Rams beat the Raiders convincingly, handing the Raiders their 1st loss of the 2002 regular season...Frankly I doubt the Raiders would have even been able to beat the Steelers in that AFCCG in Pittsburgh let alone forever ruin/end the GSOT while playing on turf...
@D&HProductions looks like someone cant handle the truth to me
Holy thesis LOL
No one is reading any of that. Good effort though and next time state your references.
@@betrue311 actually at least 4 others have read it and liked it...have fun hiding under an umbrella of ignorance because too many words frighten u
You can see clearly its a fumble , & watch how the ball hits his other hand that automatically makes it a fumble whether he meant for the ball to hit his hamd.
Imagine if people focused on the "First team to score wins" overtime instead of that correct ruling on the tuck call it doesn't come down to a coinflip. But that's my take.
Changed both the Raiders and Patriots franchises for the next 15-20 years.
As a football fan who watched that game as a neutral observer, I sort of liked the call because it kept the game alive. Tom had played well and I remember wondering if something was being born in that game and football is an entertainment business and I was entertained, that’s my side of it.
Clearly a fumble….. F the NFL! The refs can literally change the game with one play….like this one!
It’s not the Patriots fault!! That’s what the haters fail to realize! THE NFL MADE THE CALL!!! Be mad at them! 🤷🏽♀️
The only way the truth about this call will ever be revealed is either under oath or a deathbed confession
NOBODY said ANYTHING when the Tuck Rule was called AGAINST the Patriots. Yet, when it benefitted them... oh cry me a river. 😭 ⚰️ 💀 🤣
#12LikeAnApostle! 🐐 🙌🏿 👑 🏆 🥇
#PatriotsDYNASTY! 💎 💎 💎 💎 💎 💎
Hymn
I miss Gruden, great football guy
Like the OJ verdict. The Reagan assination attempt. The Challenger explosion. I remember it vividly.
We started there dynasty we created tom brady
Plus adam Vinatieri too he's first 3 super bowls so finish your career with a super bowl with the team who created you
Yup because your team eavesdropped on the playcall that led to that play
Not a fumble by the rule. Brady never re-tucked the ball after the forward throwing motion. Incomplete pass.