Writer: "So Bond is back, but MI6 is concerned that he's getting too old for this sort of thing." Producer: "He's getting too old for this? This is the third film in a reboot!" Writer: "Uh-Huh." Producer: "The first movie was about Bond just starting his career as an assassin!" Writer: "Okay" Producer: "The last movie was a direct sequel. They took place within days of each other. Why are we saying he's too old to be doing this? It doesn't make sense in-universe, and it sounds like we'd have to reboot it again in two or three more movies!" Writer: "Have I told you about my back, and how I need you to get all the way off of it?"
@@westrim The video game 007 Blood Stone, works really well for this issue. It takes place sometime in between QoS and Skyfall and does a good job of serving as Bond's prime. Daniel Craig and Judy Dench do some great voice work reprising their movie roles, and the plot somewhat accidentally perfectly foreshadows the Spectre storyline. It's not the best game ever, and obviously I'd have preferred a movie, but it gets the job done.
@@westrim I mean ... you can cast a 30 something to play “young Bond” but you can’t really run away from the fact that if it takes you too long to make sequels he’ll eventually be in his 40s
@@TheJadedJames That rings a little hollow when you consider all of the previous Bond actors though, none of whom had their age brought up in their 3rd movie even though they were all seasoned agents and not rookies.
"Well, that sounds like a super convoluted plot based on things he couldn't possibly have known." Lex Luthor in BvS: "Write that down, write that down!"
@@moderndayphilosopher9782 And that 'plan' could have fallen apart in an infinite number of ways. eg, Superman shows up for the big Martha fight:"Oh, I see you've prepared for my arrival. Well then, let's take this conversation a mile up in the air. I can bring you back or you can find your own way down". Silly, silly movie
"So then a train falls through the roof" "The super-villain's plan relied on public transport running to within a second of the scheduled time?" "That's what we're going with!" "Fair enough!"
Also it's a 'not in service' tube, which wouldn't have even been timetabled. Convenient really, as had it been in service it was rush hour, so a few hundred people would have died just like that.
@@GermanLeftist Remote-controlling an abandoned train to drop through the roof makes way more sense than just planting a few claymore mines in the tunnel to kill Bond when he runs past them.
If only there was a Building where one could go to filled with medical professionals, where you could treat Bullet related injuries. It's a shame such a place doesn't exist in the Bond universe
@@jonathancampbell5231 in Dr. NO Bond walked through a radioactive swamp (then was through a decontamination procedure) and in the climax was above a working nuclear reactor, which he caused to meltdown minutes earlier. I'm not even talking about an exploding island, which he probably escapes every other week. Compared to that, surviving with a few grams of radioactive bullet near heart is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Could be interesting areas for research. What's the longest someone's gone without having a bullet removed? Is that more or less time than investigators can reasonably hope to get forensics clues off one? Are bullet-types ever that rare? Also, per one source, the trope that The Man With the Golden Gun falls into isn't real. Someone trying to hire a real-world hitman won't find a professional who travels in style. It's much more likely to be a local who's super hard-up for cash.
Silva is a super mega genius who can bend time and space to his will, and everyone else in this film is a bumbling moron. Give me Casino Royale any day of the week.
*Silva explains his plan to henchman* Henchman: erm ok, but sir can't we just wait 2 months until she is retired and get her when she's feeding pidgeons in the park...alone? *End Credits*
Silva: No, our plan to kill her must be specific as possible. What if she is feeding ducks instead of pigeons? Than we would have to change our plan and we cant't do that, because we need to stick exactly to our plan. Hechman: Why? Silva: Because Henchman: That works.
Everything is cliches. Has been for a while. Entire plot lines have been structured thousands of years ago only to be reused. What makes a story compelling is the characters and overall craft of the medium.
Mission Impossible did it really well where the villain planned on getting caught, but the team knew that that was the plan and used it to trick the villain into thinking his plan was working when really they were 2 steps ahead
He forgot: - The Komodo dragon trampoline - Boning a forced prostitute without even saying hello - The old house blowing up ~ 3 times - Bond (armed) tackling the assassin AFTER his kill (with the single shot rifle firing multiple times during the struggle) - The question why Moneypenny only watched the bad guy with the list escape instead of shooting him, too - The glass prison of the master hacker being locked exclusively by electronics and not at least one physical padlock I could go on and on. This movie is such a treasure trove of really, really odd creative choices^^
I always thought the part about Bond forcing himself onto the victim of child sex trafficking was especially morally questionable. they should have reversed the scene, as in the lady being forced to seduce Bond but instead of taking advantage of her Bond sits her down and talks with her, without touching her. but no, of course borderline rape is super sexy!
"The glass prison of the master hacker being locked exclusively by electronics and not at least one physical padlock" Wow, that's the equivalent of putting Magneto into a cage made of iron bars. Even the X-Men movies were smart enough for the government to put Magneto into a prison made entirely of plastic and plexiglass and the guards carrying non-metal weapons.
I'm glad someone finally commented publicly about the many problems with Skyfall. I thought maybe I was the only one who had a hard time getting past them
Me: "There's no way this pitch meeting can ruin one of my favorite movies with logic. It's a classic." Pitch Meeting: "Actually, it'll be super easy. Barely an inconvenience."
I always felt the plot holes in the movie prevented it from being a classic for me. There’s still plenty to enjoy but some of those contrivances are so brain dead.
RE: The convenient poker chip that leads to the next part of the quest... Yeah, anyone who has ever been gamemaster in a pen & paper roleplaying game session recognizes the moment when the players have just killed off the Very Important Bad Guy NPC you expected them to interrogate, and now you're desperately trying to come up with something on the fly so the story can continue.
To be fair, as a GM you should expect that your players will murderhobo their way through most things, so having at least two or three (or ten) ways they can progress the story is kinda par for the course.
The disconnect between how well-reviewed this film was and its multiple ludicrous plot impossibilities never ceases to amaze. Or in this case, entertain.
You know what would've been a great anniversary movie? The bit they just glossed over with the opening credits: Bond, on his own, dead, proving his still got it, and tracking down the list himself. Using actual spy skills - making contacts, chasing leads, cooking up a new identity - no gadgets, no prior intel. After all: who better to track down a list of active MI6 agents than one who's dead? That's the only way you get off that list. And it proves the whole theme of the movie: sometimes, you still need a man on the ground, not an algorithm. Also, Silva's escape could've been prevented with a $20 padlock.
Most overrated Bond film ever. Possibly the dumbest plot in any other film of the franchise. Honestly, can't understand how this cr*p was so well reviewed and such a box office success...
"The tech expert just connects the bad guys computer into the secret spy computer network?" "He knew that Q had already pooped that day, or was already going to poop?" He asks such great continuity questions. 🤣
Seriously, it's like the writers didn't even do the barest minimum of research, like asking an actual IT expert. Maybe they thought a "honey pot" is something to catch bears with.
That was a real eye-roller. But then most hacking scenes in movies are basically "computer magic" by geniuses who suddenly know the intricacies of a system written by someone they've never met, on a platfo they've never studied, for a purpose they do not know. 16 seconds after opening the criminal's laptop "looks like they're running a cyberscript against the IP address of 16 cars in New York.. They could remote control them to do anything because they have GPS". Just... No.
Producer guy: "So what is the name of this movie going to be?" Screenwriter guy: "Skyfall" Producer guy: "Ahhhh, because James Bond falls.. from the sky.. into the water, right?" Screenwriter guy: "No sir, it's the name of an old dilapidated house!!"
That was all I could think when I saw Skyfall in cinema for the first time. How can anyone not? There are even video's of Bond setting those traps to the Home Alone soundtrack.
"The tech expert just plugs his computer into the mainframe?" ... yeah, that happens a LOT. Hollywood writers do not have a tremendous understanding of "air gapping".
@@franciscodanconia4324 Him having to ask the question of "Where did that USB drive come from?" in the first place and leaving open the possibility of plugging it into his work and/or personal computer depending on the answer is still somewhat irresponsible on his part, although I get that they really wanted viewers to understand that he had security measures in place for untrusted devices, unlike Skyfall.
Not only that, but the endgame of all that crazy stuff was a total letdown. Oh... he's just going to shoot her? That was his plan? Did the writer just give up? After all that you might as well have a steamboat burst through the side of the building and run her over.
Skyfall was my first Bond movie. Because of how it started and due to a title of a different movie, I thought Bond’s gimmick was coming back from the dead a lot, like he couldn’t die. I was a little disappointed
I would think that after this movie's intro, they can kill Bond of at the end of every single Bond movie, and the fans will take bet's on whether it's going to be a reboot or another miraculous yet uncommented survival.
He takes M to Skyfall to lure the villain there... but the villain has to be told by Q that she is there by leaving computer clues - so M didn't need to leave London at all...
Please don't tell anyone, though. We're all relying on them being the super-scientific and real-world-credible stories we have absolutely believed in so far :-(
Writer: “So then Bond is gonna kidnap M and take her to his childhood home snd Silva kills her.” Producer: “Oh my god. So Bond kidnaps his boss and takes her away from any additional security that could help her? Writer: “That’s what we’re going with, sir!” Producer: “So Bond basically helps Silva complete his evil plan of killing M, right? Is Bond going to be arrested or at least fired for gross incompetence?” Writer: “No.” Producer: “Ok, then!”
To be fair M does agree with Bond that she doesn’t want anyone else getting hurt from Silva targeting her after a dozen people were killed at MI-6 headquarters.
Just here to say that I was teaching fourth grade reading this morning. We are finishing the book Resist. In the last chapter, a main character said, "We will continue to resist!" and the student flipped back to the front cover and said, "That's the name of the story!" 😂😂😂 He got an A+ today.
My wife and I were watching Young Guns 2 last week, and when Alan Ruck showed up, she legitimately thought it was Ryan. “Oh hey, it’s that guy from those RUclips videos you like with the crazy blue eyes.” “Umm, no… what? No. No! That’s the guy from Ferris Bueller.” “Matthew Broderick? No it’s not.” Anyway, now we’re divorced.
I just re-watched this movie the other night, and like most movies, went immediately here to find a Pitch Meeting for it, but there wasn't one. I was so bummed. But then...like a miracle from heaven, here it is! Ryan, you are my favorite human person ever.
Re-watching the opening sequence where Bond should’ve died 3 times reminds me of when Homer threw a rag doll down a waterfall and everyone presumed he was dead
It reminds me of that documentary episode where they went into Homer got addicted to the pain killers he had to take constantly because he's hit on the head / falling off stuff so often.
The villain capture plan sure was convoluted. Going back to the Dark Knight, even Joker's has some head scratching moments, but it works a little better with him because he's all about that chaos!
Yeah, the old gets caught as part of his plan routine: -Luke Skywalker with Jabba in Return of the Jedi -Khan getting access to his people - Star Trek into Darkness -Loke on the helicarrier - Avengers -Bane on the CIA plane - Batman -Verbal - Usual Suspects I've never liked this idea, because no villain could ever predict if there was a prisoner transfer, warden change, policy change, or immediate execution.
@@MyBiPolarBearMax It does, however copyright protection is automated these days and in many cases you lose monetization even if you successfully reverse it. It's "Guilty until proven innocent, and after that still half guilty."
"It's a list of all the secret agents in one list!" "Like the one in the original Mission Impossible film?" "N...Iiiii don't think anyone will remember that." "I remembered it." "You sure did, sir, so James has to find this list!"
A helicopter flies amidst the breaking up fog of the Scottish highlands, to emerge near a battered old cottage. It slows and hovers lazily for a few seconds before two streaks of fire pull away from its sides. The rockets' path barely wavers as the distance is devoured. They both hit the target, blowing part of the cottage across the surrounding area, while the rest implodes in a fiery heap of rock and wood. The helicopter slowly turns around and flies off into the mist. Script guy jumps upright in his bed, sweat damping his custom-made "Off My Back" pyjamas, droplets sweeping down from his forehead. "Phew! Just a nightmare!"
I feel so understood and vindicated by these pitch meetings! Everybody around me has no idea why I don't like all these Hollywood movies. They say I'm getting grumpy with age. THANKS RYAN!
Mate, if these kinda movies trigger and / or annoy you, you are grumpy. Just freaking enjoy them for what they are and don't expect a damn documentary...
If I were a writer, my goal would be to try to put together a movie Ryan couldn't destroy. It would probably suck then, but it would be an accomplishment.
It's not that hard. Glengarry Glen Ross is a masterpiece & I don't think it has a single fault in it unless there is something wrong about the way they do/did business, something that only a pro would notice.
Planning your escape down to the second so you know when a train is coming and exploding it down safely so the rest of the area remains intact is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Especially since he also had to plan for the exact speed of Bond following him and Bonds ability to just miss him several times before he could use the explosives to get away. Even the pre-cog from Minority Report would be hard pressed to develop such a specific plan.
I've had a really long day at work, come back to problems between my parents about my Alzheimer patient grandmother. And coming back to find this video on my recommended was a silver lining on my day. Thank you for your work Ryan.
That's the great thing about comedy, isn't it: it's a relaxant and distraction and leaves us feeling better. It's why I love sitcoms and stand-up so much.
@@ianj4389 Director Sam Mendes admitted that he was very much influenced by The Dark Knight. Curious, as to me it even includes most of that film's flaws.
They did my dude Q so dirty with this fumble. His character's premise is so solid, his casting so good. Let the man work. I even prefer theories that Q or someone at MI6 was scheming along for nefarious or personal reasons, or just being blackmailed to help the whole thing run smoothly - helps add some plausibility to that escape sequence if Silva had help from the inside. They did retcon in some Spectre connections for Silva, which does more to ground the idea since we can certainly imagine they could make All That happen with their extensive network as his support, but new core cast member Q was fundamentally robbed of competence so that the villain could look cool for a minute, and I'm forever not OK with that. They had Moneypenny stumble as well, but on the whole her arc was more believable. Everyone in this film was making very human mistakes and missteps, I didn't expect perfection from Q, but the misstep they chose for Q was more something I could see old Boothroyd do, as his expertise was elsewhere and not explicitly stated to be computer-tech like new Q. If they wanted to put the cocky new kid in his place, or just humble the guy, make him human and fallible on-theme, they could have just let him be overwhelmed by the sheer chaos and unpredictability of Silva's actions after his (aided, thanks) escape, instead of trying to paint him as someone that's just bad at his job, surely. I do feel there's something very off about the way they treat this Q.
Me: "Skyfall is one of the best James Bond movies ever. There is no way that Pitch Meeting could potentially ruin this for me." Pitch Meeting: "Actually, it'll be super easy. Barely an inconvenience." Me: "Oh, really?" Pitch Meeting: "Yeah, you see, we applied logic into the villain's plan, and found that there were numerous parts about it that made little sense. Silva essentially is just like The Joker from The Dark Knight, when you really think about it." Me: "Oh, The Joker from The Dark Knight is TIGHT!!" Pitch Meeting: "Fair enough!"
I feel Skyfall should have been the last daniel craig bond movie considering it's about an aging James Bond who had lost a step and had to find his way back into action.
4:55, speaking of which, since M's hearing/testimony was public, that means her identity was publicly revealed. You think someone would've , like, mentioned that, given in the first movie her reaction to even a 00 Agent knowing her name.
Damn, you're right. I've never noticed that even all these years later. The rest of that hearing was probably more interesting than the bits we saw. Maybe she added to her poetry-reading with a few limericks: "There was an old agent in China..."
Producer: "What is going on?" Writer: "Well see, I'm writing a movie about a bunch of stuff that I have no experience with...so... you know... I'm clueless."
I need the producer guy to say no to "I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that". Like I need him to just "no, not gonna happen. Not for this" lol
Thanks for reminding me why this was the last Bond movie I watched. I had completely purged any memory of both this and Quantum of Solace from my mind. And I actually like Daniel Craig and hoped for the best after the decent Casino Royale. Oh, well ...
It is sad that his character in the Tomb Raider movie is much more charming than his Bond. He could have been great in the role, but the over-correction from the latter Brosnan movies hosed him.
“So I bet it’s going to be hard to…” Ah man, I love that I already know what’s coming when producer guy says this. It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience.
"They set up a bunch of traps that are just as deadly as the ones Kevin McAllister set up in the Home Alone movies." So, one that electrocutes an intruder until they're just a skeleton, but then they're okay a few seconds later?
0:40 you forgot to mention that the distence between the bridge he fall of and the waterfall he shots down is 185 miles / 298 KM. Also where he get on the train is 400 miles / 644 KM away from the bridge and ther is no railroad between these two locations.
@@PineGrinds Because there's no inherent dumbness to mock. "Pitcher: How about we do a fun spin on all the marvel characters where they chop and change rolls. We can tie it into the whole multiverse thing. We'll make it animated and only twenty mins to keep costs down. Pitchee: Sounds good."
Which James Bond Pitch Meeting did you enjoy the most?
Die Another day is to me the best James Bond pitch meeting
the new one when EVERYONE! just d- ...oops
I enjoyed this one the most, probably because they just get better and better.
The super cut one you are going to release ;)
This has probably been my favorite 007 pitch meeting. Now do the rest of the Brosnan movies!
Writer: "So Bond is back, but MI6 is concerned that he's getting too old for this sort of thing."
Producer: "He's getting too old for this? This is the third film in a reboot!"
Writer: "Uh-Huh."
Producer: "The first movie was about Bond just starting his career as an assassin!"
Writer: "Okay"
Producer: "The last movie was a direct sequel. They took place within days of each other. Why are we saying he's too old to be doing this? It doesn't make sense in-universe, and it sounds like we'd have to reboot it again in two or three more movies!"
Writer: "Have I told you about my back, and how I need you to get all the way off of it?"
This was my biggest problem with the premise.
@@westrim The video game 007 Blood Stone, works really well for this issue. It takes place sometime in between QoS and Skyfall and does a good job of serving as Bond's prime. Daniel Craig and Judy Dench do some great voice work reprising their movie roles, and the plot somewhat accidentally perfectly foreshadows the Spectre storyline. It's not the best game ever, and obviously I'd have preferred a movie, but it gets the job done.
@@westrim I mean ... you can cast a 30 something to play “young Bond” but you can’t really run away from the fact that if it takes you too long to make sequels he’ll eventually be in his 40s
@@TheJadedJames That rings a little hollow when you consider all of the previous Bond actors though, none of whom had their age brought up in their 3rd movie even though they were all seasoned agents and not rookies.
damn, this should've been in the video
"Well, that sounds like a super convoluted plot based on things he couldn't possibly have known."
Lex Luthor in BvS: "Write that down, write that down!"
Silva failed to kill M in the court hearing because he didn't pee in a jar.
Wasn't Luthor plan basically just gaslighting Batman and supes to fight each other?
@@moderndayphilosopher9782 And that 'plan' could have fallen apart in an infinite number of ways. eg, Superman shows up for the big Martha fight:"Oh, I see you've prepared for my arrival. Well then, let's take this conversation a mile up in the air. I can bring you back or you can find your own way down". Silly, silly movie
But that's a superhero movie! James Bond is not supossed to be a superhero. I don't like "Skyfall", though.
“He knew Q had already pooped that day or was gonna poop later?”
*looks at script* “yeahhh”😂😂
I literally had a "spit take" when I heard the poop line.. that hasn't happened to me in a long time! 🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️
Q poop is tight!
There’s laxatives for that
hahahhahahaha....same thing I said
YeahYeahYeah!
"So then a train falls through the roof"
"The super-villain's plan relied on public transport running to within a second of the scheduled time?"
"That's what we're going with!"
"Fair enough!"
I love the fact that this years old plan requires the timetables to never change.
@@eddiebruv Excellent point!
Also it's a 'not in service' tube, which wouldn't have even been timetabled. Convenient really, as had it been in service it was rush hour, so a few hundred people would have died just like that.
@@eddiebruv I love how people don't realise that the train is clearly empty and probably remote controlled by Silva and not an active train.
@@GermanLeftist Remote-controlling an abandoned train to drop through the roof makes way more sense than just planting a few claymore mines in the tunnel to kill Bond when he runs past them.
Surprised how the producer didn’t question the fact Bond had that bullet in his shoulder for a few months to a year.
A radioactive bullet no less.
(I think it was bullet fragments, but still)
I guess Bond knew how super-difficult it would be, since he didn’t have any specialist tools to extract the fragment before?
If only there was a Building where one could go to filled with medical professionals, where you could treat Bullet related injuries. It's a shame such a place doesn't exist in the Bond universe
@@jonathancampbell5231 in Dr. NO Bond walked through a radioactive swamp (then was through a decontamination procedure) and in the climax was above a working nuclear reactor, which he caused to meltdown minutes earlier. I'm not even talking about an exploding island, which he probably escapes every other week.
Compared to that, surviving with a few grams of radioactive bullet near heart is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Could be interesting areas for research. What's the longest someone's gone without having a bullet removed? Is that more or less time than investigators can reasonably hope to get forensics clues off one? Are bullet-types ever that rare?
Also, per one source, the trope that The Man With the Golden Gun falls into isn't real. Someone trying to hire a real-world hitman won't find a professional who travels in style. It's much more likely to be a local who's super hard-up for cash.
You didn't mention the old house in Scotland is called "Skyfall" and the guy should have said "THAT'S THE NAME OF THE MOVIE!"
Haha yep would have been perfect
Would’ve been *super easy* to include…
@@Mdautkreix Barely an inconvenience...
That's included in the pitch meeting directors cut.
naming a house Skyfall makes no sense,err,.. unless it was perched on a mountain ledge.
“ If Q had gone to the bathroom,Silvas plan wouldn’t have worked! “ 😂😂😂
Silva is a super mega genius who can bend time and space to his will, and everyone else in this film is a bumbling moron. Give me Casino Royale any day of the week.
The true villain was a lack of fiber
*Silva explains his plan to henchman*
Henchman: erm ok, but sir can't we just wait 2 months until she is retired and get her when she's feeding pidgeons in the park...alone?
*End Credits*
Yup
LOL - "pidgeon". Bet he knew M kept their food in the refridgitator.
No, we have a movie to star in!
Since she's retired, those pidgeons could be pidgeottos
Silva: No, our plan to kill her must be specific as possible. What if she is feeding ducks instead of pigeons? Than we would have to change our plan and we cant't do that, because we need to stick exactly to our plan.
Hechman: Why?
Silva: Because
Henchman: That works.
Do this as long as it makes you happy, Ryan. I hope that's forever.
♾️♾️♾️
(Shirley Bassey sings) RYANS ARE FOREVER, FOREVER
A super easy barely inconvenient sincere request I second and third wholeheartedly. A treasure this man is. A treasure. ✌🏿🤓✌🏿
What a wonderfully wholesome comment that I can happily get behind.
Ya Do It!
Oh he definitely said that didn’t he!
The whole "capture of villain is actually a crucial part of villain's plan" cliche is really getting old.
Everything is cliches. Has been for a while. Entire plot lines have been structured thousands of years ago only to be reused. What makes a story compelling is the characters and overall craft of the medium.
Mission Impossible did it really well where the villain planned on getting caught, but the team knew that that was the plan and used it to trick the villain into thinking his plan was working when really they were 2 steps ahead
@@russellcontreras394 Which one was that?
@@raydunakin the one with Henry Cavill
@@russellcontreras394 Thanks!
Bond listening to Adele while he doesn’t die is TIGHT!
Yes sir it is
It's almost like he had No Time To Die...
@@Jluyoungzone *Hey, that's the name of the new movie!!*
Opening theme sequence
set up specifically to 😩 *Distract YOUUUUU*
I mean to be fair Adele's voice makes you feel immortal.
Its a pass
Imagine if Silvia was thrown into a cell locked by old fashion lock. All his years of planning would have been wasted.
Yes but he knew about M’s vanity and her obsession with the clear glass prison cell aesthetic.
He forgot:
- The Komodo dragon trampoline
- Boning a forced prostitute without even saying hello
- The old house blowing up ~ 3 times
- Bond (armed) tackling the assassin AFTER his kill (with the single shot rifle firing multiple times during the struggle)
- The question why Moneypenny only watched the bad guy with the list escape instead of shooting him, too
- The glass prison of the master hacker being locked exclusively by electronics and not at least one physical padlock
I could go on and on. This movie is such a treasure trove of really, really odd creative choices^^
To be fair, boning a prostitute is not nearly as weird as boning a widow on the day of her husbands funeral.
I'm assuming those might have ended up on the cutting room floor, otherwise this Pitch Meeting may have been like 20 minutes long. 😉
I always thought the part about Bond forcing himself onto the victim of child sex trafficking was especially morally questionable. they should have reversed the scene, as in the lady being forced to seduce Bond but instead of taking advantage of her Bond sits her down and talks with her, without touching her.
but no, of course borderline rape is super sexy!
Cinemasins probably got all of these lol
"The glass prison of the master hacker being locked exclusively by electronics and not at least one physical padlock"
Wow, that's the equivalent of putting Magneto into a cage made of iron bars. Even the X-Men movies were smart enough for the government to put Magneto into a prison made entirely of plastic and plexiglass and the guards carrying non-metal weapons.
James Bond getting hit on by the villain is tight!
What makes you think this is his first time?
Silva: Oh, James Bond's pants are TIGHT!
I'm sure Silva was hoping it's tight
0⁰p
James Bond: "I'm a 00 agent, of course I've had gay sex"
"He figured something out while that was going on" 😂
The plan of so many Hollywood movie directors and producers.
Lmbao!!!!
I'm glad someone finally commented publicly about the many problems with Skyfall. I thought maybe I was the only one who had a hard time getting past them
I couldn't take it after the court hearing...it is one thing to have to suspend some disbelief but there were too many major ones.
Me: "There's no way this pitch meeting can ruin one of my favorite movies with logic. It's a classic."
Pitch Meeting: "Actually, it'll be super easy. Barely an inconvenience."
Yeah. Ryan does that.
Ruining your favorite movies is TIGHT!!
I said the same thing for LOTR movies. I wish I hadn't 🤣
I always felt the plot holes in the movie prevented it from being a classic for me. There’s still plenty to enjoy but some of those contrivances are so brain dead.
Yh😁
RE: The convenient poker chip that leads to the next part of the quest... Yeah, anyone who has ever been gamemaster in a pen & paper roleplaying game session recognizes the moment when the players have just killed off the Very Important Bad Guy NPC you expected them to interrogate, and now you're desperately trying to come up with something on the fly so the story can continue.
To be fair, as a GM you should expect that your players will murderhobo their way through most things, so having at least two or three (or ten) ways they can progress the story is kinda par for the course.
Always gotta have a back up for your back up for the back up lol
This is why improvisational skills are critical for any DM / GM.
Addendum
Also because all too many players delight in sabotaging the campaign because:
"LOL bro! Wha-cha-gonna-do-now bro? TEE HEE HEE!"
@@TheMaleRei I know in my group at least, we just eject those types of players.
To be honest, the original Home-Allone traps were more deadly!
I respectfully disagree
Home Alone, no. Home Alone 2, yes. Harry and Marv had 20 lives each.
Kevin threw a B R I C K
@@cradiculous Several lol.
@@cradiculous it was super effective
The disconnect between how well-reviewed this film was and its multiple ludicrous plot impossibilities never ceases to amaze. Or in this case, entertain.
I've never understood it either. As a life long Bond fan, I thought this movie was ridiculous and awful, but the best looking Bond film by far
You know what would've been a great anniversary movie? The bit they just glossed over with the opening credits: Bond, on his own, dead, proving his still got it, and tracking down the list himself. Using actual spy skills - making contacts, chasing leads, cooking up a new identity - no gadgets, no prior intel. After all: who better to track down a list of active MI6 agents than one who's dead? That's the only way you get off that list. And it proves the whole theme of the movie: sometimes, you still need a man on the ground, not an algorithm.
Also, Silva's escape could've been prevented with a $20 padlock.
@@hoilst265That sounds awesome
Most overrated Bond film ever. Possibly the dumbest plot in any other film of the franchise. Honestly, can't understand how this cr*p was so well reviewed and such a box office success...
@@hoilst265unless he watched the lawyer lock picker...
"The tech expert just connects the bad guys computer into the secret spy computer network?"
"He knew that Q had already pooped that day, or was already going to poop?"
He asks such great continuity questions. 🤣
Seriously, it's like the writers didn't even do the barest minimum of research, like asking an actual IT expert. Maybe they thought a "honey pot" is something to catch bears with.
That was a real eye-roller. But then most hacking scenes in movies are basically "computer magic" by geniuses who suddenly know the intricacies of a system written by someone they've never met, on a platfo they've never studied, for a purpose they do not know. 16 seconds after opening the criminal's laptop "looks like they're running a cyberscript against the IP address of 16 cars in New York..
They could remote control them to do anything because they have GPS". Just... No.
'Cause that's exactly what Tech Experts do...
@@Rapscallion2009 You forgot all of the colorful popup windows with very informative statements like "ACCESS GRANTED"
@@olandir or the countdown. "He'll be in our network in 37 seconds....36......35....34....33....".
Producer guy: "So what is the name of this movie going to be?"
Screenwriter guy: "Skyfall"
Producer guy: "Ahhhh, because James Bond falls.. from the sky.. into the water, right?"
Screenwriter guy: "No sir, it's the name of an old dilapidated house!!"
The “Home Alone” explanation is my new favorite.
The ending of Skyfall being compared to Home Alone by other reviewers years before this Pitch Meeting is super eas... well, you know the rest.
That was all I could think when I saw Skyfall in cinema for the first time. How can anyone not?
There are even video's of Bond setting those traps to the Home Alone soundtrack.
"The tech expert just plugs his computer into the mainframe?"
... yeah, that happens a LOT. Hollywood writers do not have a tremendous understanding of "air gapping".
Well Q did learn not to do that in No Time to Die.
They probably all run Windows, so they're used to compromise and being compromised.
@@franciscodanconia4324 Him having to ask the question of "Where did that USB drive come from?" in the first place and leaving open the possibility of plugging it into his work and/or personal computer depending on the answer is still somewhat irresponsible on his part, although I get that they really wanted viewers to understand that he had security measures in place for untrusted devices, unlike Skyfall.
We need to plug the really suspicious device into the organization's mainframe so the movie can happen.
@@thomaskalinowski8851 You've clearly been watching too many Pitch Meetings.
First quality movie that firmly shattered my suspension of disbelief with that escape sequence. Too implausible despite my goodwill to accept.
Not only that, but the endgame of all that crazy stuff was a total letdown.
Oh... he's just going to shoot her? That was his plan? Did the writer just give up? After all that you might as well have a steamboat burst through the side of the building and run her over.
@@JoeSyxpack idk , it seems like the writer was trying too hard in this instance.
@@SimonKnight1023 Or barely trying at all, seeing as how he only ripped off Dark Knight and a couple of Brosnan's movies.
@@Avenging_Archer lol Oh no I meant he was trying to shoehorn a bunch of crap from other movies when he didn’t need to.
@@SimonKnight1023 oh, then I absolutely agree with you! Lol
The "Oh no, she's from the other movie!" Line delivered like that was some unpleasant reveal slayed me.
Skyfall was my first Bond movie. Because of how it started and due to a title of a different movie, I thought Bond’s gimmick was coming back from the dead a lot, like he couldn’t die.
I was a little disappointed
I mean... he kinda does.
*NO TIME TO DIE SPOILERS BELOW:*
(Or, well, did. Lol.)
He "Only lives Twice"
I would think that after this movie's intro, they can kill Bond of at the end of every single Bond movie, and the fans will take bet's on whether it's going to be a reboot or another miraculous yet uncommented survival.
He takes M to Skyfall to lure the villain there... but the villain has to be told by Q that she is there by leaving computer clues - so M didn't need to leave London at all...
You're so right. Never spotted that one.
Watching this, I'm starting to suspect the James Bond movies are not the accurate and intelligent spy films I thought they were.
Please don't tell anyone, though. We're all relying on them being the super-scientific and real-world-credible stories we have absolutely believed in so far :-(
Blasphemy! They could almost be documentaries with their sheer realism! 😥😥
Better late than never.
Also there’s no such thing as light sabers and warp drives in case you were wondering.
@@franciscodanconia4324 Dare I ask about the Stargates?
Writer: “So then Bond is gonna kidnap M and take her to his childhood home snd Silva kills her.”
Producer: “Oh my god. So Bond kidnaps his boss and takes her away from any additional security that could help her?
Writer: “That’s what we’re going with, sir!”
Producer: “So Bond basically helps Silva complete his evil plan of killing M, right? Is Bond going to be arrested or at least fired for gross incompetence?”
Writer: “No.”
Producer: “Ok, then!”
To be fair M does agree with Bond that she doesn’t want anyone else getting hurt from Silva targeting her after a dozen people were killed at MI-6 headquarters.
@@franciscodanconia4324 but no one heard her say that
@@yourmum69_420 she said that in the car when Bond abducted her
I thought it'd be super easy, barely an inconvenience to pitch Dune already.
I hope he is working in it!
Yeah yeah yeah
I’m gonna need you to get all the way off his back.
@@detour99 Let me get off of that thing.
@@starkparker16 having a man get off your back is TIGHT!
The incredulous, laughing “Whattt?!” at 4:09 just slayed me 😂😂
"He know that Q already pooped that day or was gonna poop later?"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just here to say that I was teaching fourth grade reading this morning. We are finishing the book Resist. In the last chapter, a main character said, "We will continue to resist!" and the student flipped back to the front cover and said, "That's the name of the story!" 😂😂😂 He got an A+ today.
Did that actually happen
Yes it's true.
@@games_on_phone89 it's true, I was the book
@@robertmcginty4146 is that a book written by SJWs about Trump? If so give yourself an F for brainwashing instead of teaching.
@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 Oh, the irony....
My wife and I were watching Young Guns 2 last week, and when Alan Ruck showed up, she legitimately thought it was Ryan. “Oh hey, it’s that guy from those RUclips videos you like with the crazy blue eyes.” “Umm, no… what? No. No! That’s the guy from Ferris Bueller.” “Matthew Broderick? No it’s not.”
Anyway, now we’re divorced.
Liar.
"Thank God The Professional Assassin Used Bullets That Could Be Specifically Traced Back To Him" 😂⚰
Silva's vague intelligence-that-borders-on-omniscience always bothered me, especially the perfectly timed train moment
yeah....that was impossible to suspend the disbelief....
I just re-watched this movie the other night, and like most movies, went immediately here to find a Pitch Meeting for it, but there wasn't one. I was so bummed. But then...like a miracle from heaven, here it is! Ryan, you are my favorite human person ever.
Re-watching the opening sequence where Bond should’ve died 3 times reminds me of when Homer threw a rag doll down a waterfall and everyone presumed he was dead
Exactly what I was thinking
Simpsons Did It 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It reminds me of that documentary episode where they went into Homer got addicted to the pain killers he had to take constantly because he's hit on the head / falling off stuff so often.
"Ohh Kevin McAlister's murder machine are tight!!"
The whole part on Home Alone killed me 😂
Ryan we're all proud of how successful pitch meetings have become. You're amazing. Thanks SR for paying this man's wages.
It's genuinely the thing I look forward to every Tuesday after work.
Fun fact: Ryan actually pays all of SR's wages.
'I had that guy playing Silva in my pub causing trouble the other day'
'Xavier Bardem?'
'Not yet but I intend to...'
How many movies have done the "every spy is on a single list" thing?
The villain capture plan sure was convoluted. Going back to the Dark Knight, even Joker's has some head scratching moments, but it works a little better with him because he's all about that chaos!
Yeah, the old gets caught as part of his plan routine:
-Luke Skywalker with Jabba in Return of the Jedi
-Khan getting access to his people - Star Trek into Darkness
-Loke on the helicarrier - Avengers
-Bane on the CIA plane - Batman
-Verbal - Usual Suspects
I've never liked this idea, because no villain could ever predict if there was a prisoner transfer, warden change, policy change, or immediate execution.
Putting triangles on the bond footage to not get copyright striked is TIGHT!
Does he always do this?? It's the first time I actually notice
This definitely falls under review or parody.
@@MyBiPolarBearMax It does, however copyright protection is automated these days and in many cases you lose monetization even if you successfully reverse it. It's "Guilty until proven innocent, and after that still half guilty."
"It's a list of all the secret agents in one list!"
"Like the one in the original Mission Impossible film?"
"N...Iiiii don't think anyone will remember that."
"I remembered it."
"You sure did, sir, so James has to find this list!"
I’m gonna need you to get all the way off the writers back!
Major props. I thought the same thing with the NOC list in the first film.
and like tinker tailor and atomic blonde.
so i guess all the spies like to make the same lists.
Nobody ever seems to mention that James had *one job!* Don't let the bad guy kill M...
The bad guy kills M.
A helicopter flies amidst the breaking up fog of the Scottish highlands, to emerge near a battered old cottage. It slows and hovers lazily for a few seconds before two streaks of fire pull away from its sides. The rockets' path barely wavers as the distance is devoured. They both hit the target, blowing part of the cottage across the surrounding area, while the rest implodes in a fiery heap of rock and wood. The helicopter slowly turns around and flies off into the mist.
Script guy jumps upright in his bed, sweat damping his custom-made "Off My Back" pyjamas, droplets sweeping down from his forehead. "Phew! Just a nightmare!"
Knowing when people normally poop on a given day is TIGHT
Maybe he used that secret poop juice Ethan Hunt used in Mission Impossible to make sure Q had already gone that day.
I feel so understood and vindicated by these pitch meetings! Everybody around me has no idea why I don't like all these Hollywood movies. They say I'm getting grumpy with age. THANKS RYAN!
Mate, if these kinda movies trigger and / or annoy you, you are grumpy. Just freaking enjoy them for what they are and don't expect a damn documentary...
I just rewatched the Home alone pitch meeting waiting for this and then boom as soon as it finished it's up! life is good.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that had that reaction to this movie.
Releasing the Pitch Meeting for Skyfall AFTER the Pitch Meeting for No Time To Die is *TIGHT!*
Inconsistent Bond chronology is just wow wow wow.
3:52 Producer guy so confused he meows like a cat! (Yes, I know that was "How....?")
If I were a writer, my goal would be to try to put together a movie Ryan couldn't destroy. It would probably suck then, but it would be an accomplishment.
put it on yt
Writer: there's no way pitch meetings can ruin my movie
Ryan: actually it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience
It's not that hard. Glengarry Glen Ross is a masterpiece & I don't think it has a single fault in it unless there is something wrong about the way they do/did business, something that only a pro would notice.
It would suck, because you will always miss something, and if you focus on story nitpicks over entertainment, it’s gonna be a shitty movie.
@@vanderful2397Fellow Glengarry watcher I see. Such an underrated movie/play
That train crashing part always bugged me and was so unbelievable.
Oh yeah, because pretty much everything in the James Bond movies (New and old) is incredibly realistic and could without a doubt happen!
@@casperryborg4869 Thing is, the Craig era positions itself as a little more grounded and realistic (and, I'd add, po-faced), than other eras.
@@casperryborg4869 what other things couldn't have happened in the old films?
Planning your escape down to the second so you know when a train is coming and exploding it down safely so the rest of the area remains intact is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Especially since he also had to plan for the exact speed of Bond following him and Bonds ability to just miss him several times before he could use the explosives to get away. Even the pre-cog from Minority Report would be hard pressed to develop such a specific plan.
I've had a really long day at work, come back to problems between my parents about my Alzheimer patient grandmother. And coming back to find this video on my recommended was a silver lining on my day. Thank you for your work Ryan.
That's the great thing about comedy, isn't it: it's a relaxant and distraction and leaves us feeling better. It's why I love sitcoms and stand-up so much.
Dibs on the band name "Kevin McAllister and the Murder Machines"
When you do Dune, maybe have a huge stack of papers and tell the Producer that he will only be showing him 1/4 the story.
When you put it like this the script sounds like it was adapted from a Batman versus joker movie.
This movie was heavily inspired by The Dark Knight after all
@@venturatheace1 I absolutely had no idea but it totally makes sense if this is true. 😂
@@ianj4389 Director Sam Mendes admitted that he was very much influenced by The Dark Knight. Curious, as to me it even includes most of that film's flaws.
They did my dude Q so dirty with this fumble. His character's premise is so solid, his casting so good. Let the man work.
I even prefer theories that Q or someone at MI6 was scheming along for nefarious or personal reasons, or just being blackmailed to help the whole thing run smoothly - helps add some plausibility to that escape sequence if Silva had help from the inside.
They did retcon in some Spectre connections for Silva, which does more to ground the idea since we can certainly imagine they could make All That happen with their extensive network as his support, but new core cast member Q was fundamentally robbed of competence so that the villain could look cool for a minute, and I'm forever not OK with that.
They had Moneypenny stumble as well, but on the whole her arc was more believable. Everyone in this film was making very human mistakes and missteps, I didn't expect perfection from Q, but the misstep they chose for Q was more something I could see old Boothroyd do, as his expertise was elsewhere and not explicitly stated to be computer-tech like new Q. If they wanted to put the cocky new kid in his place, or just humble the guy, make him human and fallible on-theme, they could have just let him be overwhelmed by the sheer chaos and unpredictability of Silva's actions after his (aided, thanks) escape, instead of trying to paint him as someone that's just bad at his job, surely.
I do feel there's something very off about the way they treat this Q.
He gets better as the movies go on, I think. But yeah, his debut was... not great, as far as Mallory's concerned.
Me: "Skyfall is one of the best James Bond movies ever. There is no way that Pitch Meeting could potentially ruin this for me."
Pitch Meeting: "Actually, it'll be super easy. Barely an inconvenience."
Me: "Oh, really?"
Pitch Meeting: "Yeah, you see, we applied logic into the villain's plan, and found that there were numerous parts about it that made little sense. Silva essentially is just like The Joker from The Dark Knight, when you really think about it."
Me: "Oh, The Joker from The Dark Knight is TIGHT!!"
Pitch Meeting: "Fair enough!"
It's one of the best? Damn.... Why James Bond movies are so hyped? Novels? Early entry to the genre? nostalgia?
@@user-qv2mx4yo1m
The novels are much better than the movies. As it is the case with most franchises.
I feel Skyfall should have been the last daniel craig bond movie considering it's about an aging James Bond who had lost a step and had to find his way back into action.
4:55, speaking of which, since M's hearing/testimony was public, that means her identity was publicly revealed. You think someone would've , like, mentioned that, given in the first movie her reaction to even a 00 Agent knowing her name.
Damn, you're right. I've never noticed that even all these years later. The rest of that hearing was probably more interesting than the bits we saw. Maybe she added to her poetry-reading with a few limericks: "There was an old agent in China..."
"There's like no way he could have survived that right." Is the sentence they use for every scenario bond is put through.
That avengers 1 reference😂(villain in glass jail during halftime of the movie)
And Star Trek: Into Darkness
Casino Royale with Daniel Graig was supposed to be the new real world James Bond similar to Jason Bourne but they flushed that idea quickly.
This is still one of my favourite films
Loved that intro scene where he's underwater 😭
Same bloody great
I am a huge James Bond fan and I really want to like this movie but the plot is just too ridiculous and yes, even for a James Bond movie
"I need you to get off way all my back"
"I don't know"
"Unclear"
Is the best explanation so far I decided
Producer: "What is going on?"
Writer: "Well see, I'm writing a movie about a bunch of stuff that I have no experience with...so... you know... I'm clueless."
Did you write ‘Under Seige 2’?
What?
Just wondering …
Purvis & Wade in a nutshell. Still, can't be too sad... _Skyfall's_ *still* a blast.
"You wouldn´t kill James Bond off..." felt that. Still crying...
I need the producer guy to say no to "I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that". Like I need him to just "no, not gonna happen. Not for this" lol
Nearly had an asthma attack laughing at Q's poop habits. Mini Cheddar had to remind me to breathe.
I don't even get through the beginning ad for these before I click like.
Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters Pitch Meeting, please?
The poor bastard would have to watch it first.
Thanks for reminding me why this was the last Bond movie I watched. I had completely purged any memory of both this and Quantum of Solace from my mind. And I actually like Daniel Craig and hoped for the best after the decent Casino Royale. Oh, well ...
It is sad that his character in the Tomb Raider movie is much more charming than his Bond. He could have been great in the role, but the over-correction from the latter Brosnan movies hosed him.
“So I bet it’s going to be hard to…”
Ah man, I love that I already know what’s coming when producer guy says this.
It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience.
"They set up a bunch of traps that are just as deadly as the ones Kevin McAllister set up in the Home Alone movies."
So, one that electrocutes an intruder until they're just a skeleton, but then they're okay a few seconds later?
I always find it hilarious that this movie gave James Bond virtually the same background as Batman
And enemy.
In fairness, he was always the British equivalent of Batman.
@@somerandoladexcept he's charming
"How cool is that?" "It's pretty cool." Basically sums up the whole execution of this movie I think
0:40 you forgot to mention that the distence between the bridge he fall of and the waterfall he shots down is 185 miles / 298 KM. Also where he get on the train is 400 miles / 644 KM away from the bridge and ther is no railroad between these two locations.
"Well, it's gonna be hard for Bond to survive the first scene."
"Actually..."
I guess making a Dune pitch meeting must be super difficult, quite the inconvenience!
Some would say.......
*unfilmable*
I don't think it'll happen because there's not much to talk about that wasn't also a thing in the book
There's a fat guy that floats, I think he could write a pitch meeting very easily
@@StudioInkblot Pitch meetings aren't about books though. Harry Potter movies have pitch meetings despite books existing etc
Old Dune or New Dune? I'd accept either one. The Old Dune is camp AF
I can't believe the flashlight bit didn't get more of a reaction from Producer Guy!
Would love to see a Brooklyn nine nine pitch meeting now that the series is over
I love this idea
That would be amazing
Please, just do the whole Bond series, plus the two unofficial ones (Casino Royale 67 and Never Say Never Again)
Making Pitch Meeting for Ocean’s Eleven and its sequels would be super easy, barely an inconvenience!
very insightful, glad you were allowed to post this footage from the pitch meeting!
I'm assuming Ryan use to be a secret agent before pitching movies. How else would be know how get out of dangerous situations Super Easy?
😐
4:03 is the best "What?" he's ever done. Delivered with perfection!
This film has the best theme song 👀
_Adele_ - _Skyfall_
I still have it on repeat 😀
No casino royale has the best theme song
I was rewatching all the old James Bond meetings and i knew they were missing one. Nice to know I’m not crazy
Doing a "Marvel's what if" pitch meeting could be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Um no, it wouldn't
@@ericstorm6582 why not
Oh boy I can't wait!
Your wish is granted.
@@PineGrinds Because there's no inherent dumbness to mock. "Pitcher: How about we do a fun spin on all the marvel characters where they chop and change rolls. We can tie it into the whole multiverse thing. We'll make it animated and only twenty mins to keep costs down. Pitchee: Sounds good."
"They do 'Home Alone'!".....aaannnd I lost it. : D
Making a Dune 1984 pitch meeting is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
I’d love to see Seven pitch meeting. Btw, thank you for the weekly entertainment, Ryan. Your creativity is a gift from the heavens.
Let me guess: "Evil Villain has a cunning plan involving his own capture plus a number of perfeclty timed steps" ?
Looking forward to the Eternals Pitch Meeting next week.
Nah, give us D U N C first.
"She's a prisoner, kind of"
Yeah. Let's go with that.