MultiVersus: What Went Wrong?
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2023
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I loved playing MultiVersus when it first came out. Watching the slow downfall of the game, leading to it eventually being shut down until 2023, broke my heart. In this video, I'm going to take a look back on the history of the game to see what went wrong. #multiversus 
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Battlepasses in fighting games were a mistake
Freemium games never last.
@@kylewoodowens4488 Forkknife is the only exception
@@kylewoodowens4488brawlhalla
@@fatmoefatmoe2645Fortnite was both the catalyst for a lot of the trend of battle passes and microtransactions, while also being one of the only games that does it in an acceptable way that doesn't ruin the game for non-paying players.
Battlepasses were a mistake, period.
If nothing else, it’s a pretty impressive achievement that they went from biggest fighting game release on steam to the game dying in a few months.
They aren't dying bro the game still had players up until it shut down, it's not dead it's a beta that ended, the full game will be back next year man, it died in one day because they took it down, it didn't rlly lose its player base, and I'm playing when it's back
@@scallahan1294 it had less than 200 players on steam before it shut down. Compared to the 150k+ on launch, that’s pretty damn dead.
@arpadszabo661 games like platform fighters never do well on PC it was for both consoles, which was doing well
@@somefucker5942 … it had crossplay across all platforms and it did so well they had to shut it down during the SECOND SEASON, after the introduction of a battlepass and a fully functional ingame shop. Stop the mental gymnastics, the game is a failure on every level
Well when it’s a smash clone and smash does everything better than it does it’s no wonder it shit out
Hoping we do get a full release next year, I had a lot of genuine fun with the game through out the summer beta.
Same here! I remember when taz used to be hated by 90 percent of the community which convinced me to use him just to annoy people
@@S1ayer585.go to hell
Same. I actually redownloaded a few weeks ago just to lab lebron some more lmao
@@samthemessiah9330same but with Finn man
Its gonna die again even quicker the second time around, get REAL
The biggest issue multiverses had was that it was trying to be something it wasn’t. Like at its core it was a party game trying to be a live service and that was the problem. Because of how oversaturated the market of live service games are if u don’t do something different that helps u stand out from others it’s not gonna do well. Other than that the game had a ton of issues, the terrible matchmaking, some of the worst hitboxes I’ve personally seen an a fighting game, an unbalanced roaster, and super repetitive gameplay, along with not having a lot of keeping people interested. Not to mention having those overpriced skins didn’t do the game any favors either. Overall tho I’m glad the game has been making a ton of improvements during its downtime and fixing these issues from the sound of it but really wish the devs just held off on this game cause it’s clear the team just wasn’t ready to handle a live service title.
Agree with everything you said except blaming the team. Releasing the game in this state was a corporate decision, not a developer decision.
Chances are, if a huge game like this has a massive problem with it, you can almost assuredly blame it on some sort of forced deadline from some guy in a suit that makes 10 times what the entire development team makes.
Fighting games as a liveservice is such a braindead idea. It hurts themselves in the long run and it's already catching up to Mortal Kombat 1 with how disgusting it's shop has been. Just keep fighting games as fighting games that anyone can access regardless of one's wallet.
The dev's weren't the one's who decided to release it early It's a WB corporate decision you can't blame the devs for that one.
@@unofficialmeme5972 agreed
@@crumpscrumbs if u actually look into its history Tony was going to almost everywhere to get this game made and publish and even went to Netflix to do it. In this case WB just took advantage and rushed it out but regardless it doesn’t make much sense for a team that small to even work on a live service game unfortunately.
I got into MVS at the beginning after getting an alpha invite. It was fun enough so played a bit. But in the middle of the first season I got extremely burned out on the game. The balance was all over the place and the balancing patches didn't seem to know where the issues were.
The whole perk system was ultimately going to doom their balancing efforts (an issue I called out in alpha) because either the perks are significant and the characters have to be balanced around their most min-maxed loadouts or the perks are insignificant so they don't matter so why not get rid of them? Fighting games require a very careful balance and it can't be achieved if players can substantially alter their fighter's capabilities at round start in a blind system.
Ultimately, while the game had a lot of good things going for it, the developers baked too many issues into the core DNA of the game and it wound up being unsatisfying to play (in addition to perks it's inability to decide if it was a 2v2 game or a 1v1 game was going to doom the balance as well especially since in 2v2 there was no team friendly fire meaning some combinations of characters made things miserable).
So glad I didnt spend money on this. They clearly wanted to milk this game. Theres a reason why it was hard as hell to level the battle pass. Pure greed.
It was definitely clear they were gonna go the Fortnite route with this game where they update it to release and ofc it backfired on them. Overall just wish they would’ve put development first before profit
It's a shame too very fun to play
I wouldn’t say it is 100% greed because there is fun value in the game. But greed did definitely take part in its death.
There was rumors Mark Hamill was gonna play as the joker and was gonna be announced in The Game Award show as DLC to boost the game. But sadly it was not meant to be as the actor who played as Batman died so he quit playing Joker wasted potential
The voice files are already there I heard a few he probably finished recording awhile ago
@@mr.bannana9048 yeah but with Kevin Conroy’s death they might recast the Joker voice actor when it does come back. A shame he’s permanently retiring from The Joker role.
Wait this is real? How did I not hear of this
@@MasterChef1957 It was because it got overshadowed by other things
@@NitwitsWorldYeah Kevin's death hit him pretty hard... You can tell they became pretty close friends over the years 😢
Any game that has a fully paid season battle pass with upcoming planned paid seasons, isn't in early access.
Ah yes, the "beta" cope that developers have used since the mid 2010's.
Facts lol
That beta excuse got old fast asl lol. They just realized they fukd up
Really?
I'm am so tired of battle passes, just do what Smash did, make the full game and THEN create content for a fighter pass that last the year before making another.
Remember when companies would release completed products? Good times. Good times…
@@crumpscrumbsThanks Fortnite, you ruined gaming!
@@egateqa1351 Kinda ironic how Fortnite has one of the best BP systems, which essentially pays for itself in a reasonable amount of time as long as you play the game. Most BPs take an absurd amount of grinding AND forces players to pay every BP phase regardless of progression.
@@crumpscrumbsThis would only be accurate if you cherry pick. Because companies have always pushed out half baked products. But now you can try a lot of them for free instead of losing 60$.
I feel like a lot of people with your take didn't play games before live service blew up so you just assume every game was completed. Daikatana or Aliens Colonial Marines just for 2 major examples.
@@mastersparkles1584 Actually I’ve been playing games since the early 2000s. My statement was hyperbolic and didn’t include the nuance of the situation in that, yes, some game developers nowadays will still release completed products.
I do stand by the reality that it is has gotten MUCH worse with the advent of Day 1 Patches and updates in general.
I had a little obsession with this game and my reason to stop playing is I never fully liked the physics and hitboxes, they just felt weird, too floaty and random; most characters felt weightless, like they could evade any hit at the last second, most matches were a ton of missed attacks on both sides. It made you feel like you lacked control.
I was trapped by the game for the characters (I love cartoons). Actually the presentation in general, aside from the music, was pretty great, but I never felt like the gameplay was polished enough. I really think the problem with this game was way deeper than monetization and content updates.
Watching the gameplay in the video is two characters buzzing like flies, altering their momentum like four times per jump, and missing attacks.
Part of the fun of Smash is having that sense of weight to each character and attack, and being able to land hits with a predictable sense of physics. Smash characters can only alter their momentum by jumping, air dodging (risky), or their up B (very risky). I'm watching these Multiversus characters float around with 5 sudden bursts and jolts per air time.
@@1982pokemon yup, you kinda get used to it but up to a point, where every match you still wish characters where bigger or something lol.
In Smash only 2 characters come to mind that behave sort of like that: Mewtwo and Jigglypuff, and they still have a better feeling. I think hitboxes are a major issue too in Multiversus.
Dude especially when they dropped morty then rick, morty, finn and jake were my favorite I genuinely thought I loved the game but 5 months in it hit me word for word what you said about the floaty garbage I reminded me of worse smash Bros, and the spammers dude duel super saiyan shaggys was to much for my brain literally..
If you want smash, play smash.
no platform fighter or any fighting game for that matter should have it's main content be focused around a "battle pass". the reason smash bros is fun is because when you play the game, it's fun. every video i've watched discussing multiversus merely skims over the gameplay, but to me this has to be the main reason people aren't replaying this game, its just simply not fun enough
honestly, all the videos blame the dropping player count on content drought and grindy battle passes, but good fighting games have always been really good at retaining players. Melee being the prime example. The real problem is the whack ass gameplay.
Honestly the first months of this game being released was some of the best gaming moments I've had since OG PS4 days. With that being said it really hurt to see the downward spiral of this game despite being one of the biggest peaks we've seen from a fighting game. I think one of the main issues with the game was that they didn't have any direction when it came to the seasons and the character releases in general. I feel like they would've a longer lifespan for the beta if they actually provided themes with each season and a character bundled with it. So they can actually make it balanced and to create more hyper behind the season releases. Not to mention the battlepass fillers just felt like random garbage and assets they had laying around so they just threw it in. Even if the gameplay wasn't subpar or perfected, I'm sure some players would've disregarded some of those flaws if they could've been grinding for themes that they were nostalgic or passionate for. Like imagine a villans theme or a sidekick or even as whole network theme such as looney toons or cartoon network. Instead of releasing what was seemingly to be random characters that the devs wanted instead of the majority of the fanbase. They could've even released a redux to each theme so they could've capitalized on the hype generated from that season theme. But it was just directionless and they didn't create any season trailers or even character trailers (i think they had only a rick one) to create anticipation. It really felt like they dropped the ball when it came to player engagement and made it so that there was dead air after every season release. Literally the only thing that kept players engaged was the patch notes and that's a whole different can of worms.
For me personally, the thing that killed my interest in the game were the challenges to level up the battle pass (not to mention some of the battle pass rewards themselves weren't that great either). There were daily challenges that were more tedious than the others, and even though you can reroll to get different ones it was the luck of the draw if you got a more doable one with your free reroll.
Not to mention the Seasonal Challenges that got added were worse, one of the ones I had was getting about a hundred wins (or some other absurd amount) with a Bruiser character, but the only ones I was decent at were Garnet or Jake, so it made me feel like I HAD to play them despite leaning more towards Support & Tanks. I get those kinds of challenges are there to make you branch out & experiment but they were really egregious & became more of a chore. I just wanted to get on & have some fun for an hour or so & grinding out matches with characters I don't like isn't exactly fun for me.
I do hope it makes a comeback since at it's core there WAS fun to be had but it's gonna be a big uphill battle for them.
This was my problem too, the challenges were annoying
I don’t think I had a game become my favorite game as fast as multiversus 😢 despite the flaws this game was awesome and I really hope we’re blessed to play again.
This is one of the most informative multiversus videos i’ve seen in a while, good job man 👍
I think the problem was maybe some balancing and overall character additions that nobody really cared about.
Like who was really excited for Gizmo and Stripe? People want stuff like other Looney tunes characters, I mean Marvin was cool, but we want Daffy or... *Lola*
And more new show character, Rick and Morty was a great addition, we wanted more like Ben 10, Johnny Bravo, some other DC character.
Also everyone hated Harley, bs ass 360 free hit move.
I was actually the opposite. Gizmo was like one of the few characters I actually got excited about
Omg Harley Quinn players in this game sent me up a wall. I was trying to play shaggy man.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265Harley had a Fucking Infinite (easiest Infinite in any fighting game out there)
@@KyryanRose True I remember motherf*ckers looping my ass for no reason while im out here trying not to die.
Yeah Harley was obnoxious. Jake as well
The fact that they took people's money and then shut the game down is insane
Well it’s going to come back, with the things you purchased still on your account, hopefully better than before
@@toast7304yea they pinky promised
I mean, they SAY they will come back in 2024, but only time will tell.
It's insane?
@@nothanks126 I don’t see why they won’t, they made money, that’s all they care about, so why not make more? If they don’t I think that would be more surprising.
i dodge, u dodge. we all dodge. dodge all day, dodge all night.
I was in the top 1000 players on the ladder for the first few months of the game, at a point reaching rank 50 (there was no ranked mode but they still ranked players based on mmr) . The reason i grew tired of the game was the consistent bugs combined with the inconsistent mechanics. Mashing attacks or dodging during a true combo works like 50% of the time online, so there's little to no point in learning combos, especially against laggy opponents. and that's not even mentioning the crazy rollback bugs where you find yourself on the respawn platform without even having seen your death.
yo this video was recommended to me and it was so well done i didn't expect you to have under 50k subs. Good stuff man! I can't wait for multiversus to come back. NASB 2 just doesn't feel right to me (even though i think the general consensus is that it's amazing). NASB 1 was fine but then multiversus came onto the scene and knocked my socks off. Even though I stopped playing it to try other things i still think about it a lot. And NASB 2 just makes me want it back even more.
The game failed because it was jank, the netcode sucked and the hitboxes and hit priority were wack. PFG acknowledged both the hitboxes and the netcode/servers needed improvements and promised that they were revamping both. When the hitbox and netcode changes finally came they either didn't improve the game enough or actually made the game worse. At pro levels the game was a joke; Harley was one of the best characters and players literally didn't use any of her special attacks. The later battlepass problems aren't what killed the game, it was already dead/dying by that point. One of the final nails in the coffin was when they started releasing characters almost no one wanted like the Gremlins.
What really killed for me was the laziness, first they add just 2 characters for season, then they started to add just one, then zero characters and arguably the worst map in the game
Stripes is awesome tho?
I completely agree and I really wish I had mentioned the netcode and hit box issues in the video. Idk how I forgot that, that's a big mistake on my part.
But even with that said, I would argue that the game was kinda jank from day 1 (it was an open beta after all). But that didn't stop the game from garnering a massive audience. I feel that the lack of content issues were what really pushed people away in the end.
@@carnage0685 Yeah, but who really cares that much about some old movie characters.
People want the real shit like Ben 10, Johnny Bravo, Another adventure time character, like Marceline.
Or even 3RD party characters like from a video game, maybe PVZ or Sans.
And they could even do JoJo, that's WB in Japan I think.
@@johnnycripplestar5167 those are all fucking stupid except for ben 10 and Johnny Bravo. Marceline too I guess.
I think there's something fundamentally wrong with the game if you need regular content updates and battle passes to keep it fun for more than a week. I think what really killed the game was the lack of modes, and the live-service model really not working for a platform fighter, setting up certain expectations that the dev team couldn't keep up with. I also personally didn't enjoy the game as much as I would have liked to as the movement felt weird and the character movesets were far too complicated. I shouldn't be having to keep track of multiple cooldowns and status effects in a fighting game.
With how varied and spammy some of the moves were I'd argue the cooldown was the right call, it forced the poorly skilled to either keep spamming a weaker version of the move or use something else
Open Betas and such tend to go offline during development pretty frequently throughout development, granted most don't lean into the live service angle or establish that offline periods will be common so the community that develops will understand what to expect even if they don't like it, here's to hoping it does get to return and in a much better state.
When this game comes back next year here is a checklist of things I'd want to see:
1. Ditch FTP, just sell the game for 30 to 40 something bucks and keep the microtransactions if you have too, while also releasing a finished game with CONTENT to play.
2. (It's probably not gonna happen but) PLEASE make the game faster and more combo focused PFG, I know the floaty gameplay makes 2v2's easier to balance, though when it comes at the cost of 1v1's, you know, the main mode people play!
3. Give me SOMETHING to do by myself when the homies aren't online and I want to play some single player content. It doesn't have to be anything like NASB 2's campaign, or World of Light, however I would take anything rather than nothing.
4. Keep up the good work with the wonderful characters that have well designed and creative movesets. : )
5. Buff Shaggy.
I do like this game for what it was, despite having to get past it's short comings. I just hate 1v1's, terrible balancing and while I was able to get past it over time, the floaty-ness really killed all my friends enjoyment. Just because something feels and plays different from smash does not make it fun/more interesting. Look at NASB 2 and how that game is doing great by adding onto what makes smash interesting with a meter system rather than trying to avoid even being close to how other platform fighters play.
My issue is, despite all the budget and sppeal and everything else, the game doesn't feel better than alternatives. That's a massive deal in this genre. Its why Melee is still going strong 20 years later, or why that nee Nick fighter is doing well.
This game made nick fighters irrelevant when it was out. The new nick fighters is doing good only because theres no competition.
@@LawnMower_gaming1 are you talking about multiversus? Nobody was playing nick brawlers when multiversus was out tf are you talking? And smash bros is a juggernaut of course thats gonna stay popular you dumb are something?
That’s how I know y’all all have trash takes and shouldn’t be having hard opinions about anything, that Nickelodeon game was getting fucking clowned, roasted, and shut down by Multiversus easily the entire time it was out,
Just purely from the perspective of Dev responsiveness it was genuinely the only game I’ve seen meaningful updates shipped within weeks,
Hitboxes were being fixed consistently, characters were being added consistently, and they were pushing new maps, game modes, and a ranking system all within 9-10 months of being released, in a beta state.
In its beta it was blowing all stars out of the water, and I swear on my left testicle people were trash so they complained about everything without even looking at what was done well, and even better than in Melee which is 20 years old, and especially leagues ahead of fucking Nickolodeon.
Everyone wanna blame corporations for ruining shit, but in reality it’s brain dead people who can’t articulate or understand nuance.
those hitboxes were terrible
The last match I did of Multiversus was against a Shaggy main who had been playing the game since it first launched. He bodied me so hard I barely even landed hits on him. Felt gatekept due to that but I can't blame him, that's the unfortunate fate of fighting games. The skill gap between players gets so massive without any form of proper matchmaking and players just can't play the game due to people being too good at it.
He was still only using 0.1% of his power. Seriously you didn't get bodied you quite literally got memed. 😆
Also to be clear, I am not making fun of you. I think your point is good. I just think it is funny how well your story plays into the ultra instinct Shaggy meme.
MultiVersus came out at the right place, at the right time. It came out when Smash Bros Ultimate was just about to finish its 2nd Fighter Pass, Brawlhalla decide to bring in more guest characters, and at the same time Nick All-Star Brawl was announced it came out with… lackluster results.
While MultiVersus was trying to be the next Brawlhalla, and even though it certainly wasn’t going to be in the same level as Smash Bros, Player First Games did a better job at handling their first game than what Gamemill did with the first Nick All-Star Brawl.
And as someone who used to make videos about another Warner Bros Crossover game years ago, MultiVersus was a worthy successor of it.
Still waiting for a trailer for the full version of MultiVersus, when it comes out next year. And the game’ll probably be worth it when it comes out.
And now NASB2 is out as is doing....rather good so far.
Only time will tell how the 2 games will go in the future.
But I'll tell you this. If Multiverses fumbles again and NASB2 does well, the internet will not be kind.
Edit:Oh yeah and Fraymakers
love the vid boss 😉😉 never back down, never give up
I was wondering wtf happened to this title. Thanks for the vid!
It failed because they didn't include Tony Soprano and Omar Little as playable characters.
it's crazy how much they fumbled the bag
It’s crazy that you think they fumbled the bag but prolly buy every version of 2K and Madden, or play COD consistently despite none of the three franchises having dropped a meaningful game in a decade
copium time@@Ballsackson
Is that so? @@zeonacepilot3420
It honestly sounds to me like they found a ton of unexpected issues and had to change plans to fix things. I don't know about other people, but personally my biggest experience was lots of REALLY bad online matches that lead to tons of unreliable hitboxes and failed spikes. So if they can make the online work better than I can overlook a lot, but the scummy battlepass isn't really a great look overall and I doubt people are going to forget about that too easily.
Putting a battle pass in a game that’s said to be in beta is some nasty shit.
It was freemium, in beta, everything was expensive af, development slowed to a halt and devs went silent before closing the game.
It was either a cash-grab, or rushed/they underestimated how long things would take
great video 👍
i remember being happy about hitting top 400 iron giant in my region.
great insight and history of the game to help me understand what happened to them without knowing the behind the scenes insider scoop
I'm surprised to see that not many people are complaining about how shit the net code is, each hit felt like there was so much weight behind it, the delay and initial lag issues ruined it for so many regions.
Great video bro. I'd consider getting a pop filter for your mic though. Keep up the good work.
Great video brother.
Love and blessings!
dude the game was so fun up till season 2. i hope they are workin on it and it comes back better thrn ever.
The biggest mistake from Warner was to make it a free to play game. When the could have paid a good developer to release a full product. Even if it has dlc in the future.
Is like the Disney Kart free to play/pay to win.
Nice vid man, keep it up
Just thinking about the summer beta brings back so many good memories. The game had a great foundation, and the devs really cared about the game. Let's hope it gets released in 2024, and that people will come back
finally a good real take! Agreed with everything u said tbh. Now we just wait for 2024 tbh
Are you serious? You think it was them focusing on the characters that ruined this game? The focus on the roster was actually one of this game’s ONLY strong points, it’s the total opposite of what you concluded.
The things that ruined this game might as well just be listed as “everything else”. No singleplayer content, the online features sucked, and locking characters behind a paywall felt insulting. Force a battle pass down my throat, whatever, but don’t gatekeep the main pull of the game, the characters, from us. That was so stupid.
The focus on all the new characters left no time for the dev team to focus on the single player content and online features. That was my point.
@@ZackLillipad Oh. Alright, now I see what you mean. I have a hard time seeing the game’s roster as a problem though because it was one of the few, consistently exciting things about this game. I wouldn’t really blame the focus on characters for the game’s shortcomings though, moreso the fact that it just released too early. Multiversus released as an Open *Beta* and that certainly showed.
I actually really enjoyed the game and idk why I stopped playing it really. But if there was one problem, it was the netcode. Connection issues, crashes and lag in half the matches.
My biggest complaint with this game was I always seemed to be lagging even when I played against the bots.
That’s because your system doesn’t run the bots you get put in an external server that runs the matches so your basically playing multiplayer with the AI
All because of that fucking battle pass meaning you have to be online at all times
To be fair. I had heard that this was a beta and that they are gonna rerelease the game in 2024 after learning from what the players liked and hated. They could take that knowledge and put it into changing the bad aspects of the game to make it better on full release.
Solid video, informative, concise, good work.
I absolutely loved this game, around when it first came out I was in the top 50 best players in the world I was also a Superman main. It makes me sad how it is gone now
Ah broke my headset loosing to a superman grab I was a wonder woman main pretty fun game
@@maxcj7 LMAO I don’t blame you I get that superman is annoying😂 people say they hate me every time I say I main him lmao
I enjoyed the game a lot, personally. What I didn't like was how Rick and Stripe were clearly over-tuned on release with really strong kill options. Stripe in particular seemed to have no weaknesses largely due to the free hit revolver and ridiculous chainsaw command grab. It felt like they just wanted people to pay to get the new characters, which sucked.
I actually really liked the movesets and creative move designs. A lot of fighters felt really unique and deep, with a lot of unique moves for normals, which pulled me in in a way other platform fighters didn't
The character design was very Smash Ultimate DLC
personally, I went from being super hyped for the game to completely dropping it after just barely a week, the game just did not feel good to play, the movement felt like tracking through mud and the attacks and animations felt super squishy. The game also had what I like to call "moveset imbalance", which is when the moves in a character's kit have very varying power levels, with some being extremely spammable and others being totally outclassed; this isn't an issue in and of itself, but multiversus also had super harsh staling that punished you for spamming your character's few good moves and forced you to use the worse ones instead, and the small movesets made this problem worse.
Also, I'm a rivals of aether player, and by comparison most of the characters weren't super well designed, they either had absolutely nothing interesting going on or were a total mess of unrelated gimmicks, and the few that did have great ideas were very poorly executed, LeBron James' ball mechanic was super fun but you were discouraged from ever throwing the ball because while it is a strong projectile, it was too great of a risk because of how awful his ball-less state was, essentially meaning the character actively discouraged you from interacting with his main mechanic.
As someone who prefers to totally ignore battle passes because a game should be fun enough to keep you playing without a battle pass to keep you coming back, the game had absolutely no staying power for me and I deleted it after only 5 hours of playtime, if you want a good pc platform fighter come play rivals, it plays and feels super well and has thousands of characters thanks to workshop support if you're willing to pay the $15 on sale entry fee
Fascinating story. Never did play because it looked way too floaty for me, hard to beat Smash Ultimate for game feel.
One of the worst netcodes ever. 90% of matches were unplayable because the connection was so poor. Everyone I knew stopped playing because of that.
My first month with the game and iron giant will always be special to me
Multiversus was cool but the people working on it just weren't up to the task. Also, most of the top tiers basically played neutral for you, so it was a frustrating game to play competitively. I would give it another shot if the fabled re-release actually comes together.
I wished I continued to play but I felt there's an oversaturation with live service games and so got to busy to even want to play multiverses despite enjoying it. Although having it free to play opened the gates to see it's a good game, I feel that it needs to be a game like smash bros where you can buy it and play it without liveservice being it's only crutch to stand on, so it can truly be a party fighting game.
I miss getting on multiversus after losing on another game 😢
The reason I stopped playing were netcode, balancing issues, poor character roster and a lack of polish in some areas.
Personally I think those were the main issues, if the game tidied that up before release it would have had much more longevity, I think.
The games a little too floaty for my liking but the move sets seem so creative (at least the ones i've seen)
Exactly my issue as someone who was previously big into smash. the movement just felt off. While that may be because I'm so used to smash even brawlhalla which I suck at compared to smash I can say it feels really smooth to play and move. Multiversus was just too floaty and weird for me, even if some of the movesets were super interesting
I remember playing on beta with laggy oceania server. I was never ever able to play the game since because I am in asia
Okay, my guy, you seriously need to consider adding MUSIC to your videos.
Music helps to mask many issues you might have with your sound - which you do have (and this is fine, don’t get me wrong, I’m a small content creator myself), and it also helps to fill in small pauses. Even more, right music can add up to the narrative you’re giving in your video.
Other than that - great video, and the views tell for themselves. Keep up the work!
I remember being curious about Tom and Jerry.
Downloaded it, saw all the live service bollocks, found no single player... and then when I wanted to play as the one (well, two) character I wished to, I was given Wonder Woman. Still didn't mind it as much but then I've played a match. It felt heavily dire so I stopped immediately.
I personally don't mind if it doesn't return but if they do release it as a regular game with an arcade mode, that might be alright.
i remember beating a 1000 ranked player with shaggy my guy was french and hearing him swear was the most funny sht
Mannnn i was so good at this game like competitively top 1000 and i just hate the thought of the game now. Idk what went wrong but i fell out of love very fast
There needs to be a law that states if a game is pay to play and you paid money for it, if that game dies and all the servers shut down within 1 year, you should get a refund - no questions asked.
At least it's actually coming back now!
Christ you sound so similar to me, its so eerie. What mic do you use? Like literally we sound like twins
I got matches in before it closes wish i could play more 😢
I played it quite a bit, for me the moment they changed how the hitboxes and movement worked was a done deal, stopped playing almost instantly
I want this and brawl stars, as i collect movies and tv shows, i love playing as those characters.
I love this game, sadly my wifi was bad at the time so I was never really able to improve because I couldn't play with other players without lagging to death.
The problem with Multiversus is that WB was so in a hurry to peddle their skin selling machine that they wanted it to make money NOW rather than giving it the time it needed in the oven to cook.
They took our money and dipped😂😭
I enjoyed playing multiversus it us said it got the severs down. I had fun olaying with friends and online. I hopr it gets a strong coneback in 2024. The devs also interacted with the fan base and listened
The biggest problem was the roster the new characters being added were a very transparent form of advertising. Rick and morty was becoming more and more unpopular yet because a new season was on the way they had to add both of them back to back. With all the potential choices of characters to add they chose based on marketing first like black Adam due to that movie coming out.
To an extent smash does this too but they'll atleast throw in odd balls and fan favorites as well. Most people who liked the game said they really weren't drawn to any one character and for a "fighting game" that's awful since the norm is maining 1 or 2. It also could lead to people only playing meta characters.
My problem wjth Multiverse was his battle pass, I don't have and/or want to spend lot of time, you wouldn't get a lot of xp for the battle pass playing normally unless you do the challenges which some can be annoying and not fun to do. And I don't want to lose cosmetics that I like or if you could get them in the future, you have to grind a lot of money to get it or even worse, making you to pay it with real money.
What most people didn’t realize is bot matches did count towards those weekly and daily challenges, finished all 3 battlepasses with time to spare and I did it stress free because I was mindless destroying bots to grind it. It became a daily thing I’d do, get home from work, see the new challenges, bust them out in 10-30 minutes and come back later.
I feel like what almost every live service game needs (let's be honest here, live service games are not gonna go away and the industry is pushing it to be the next big thing even with all the outrage, so we might as well know what works with it and what doesn't) is just game modes. From what I gather playing Valorant, there's just not enough modes to cater to more of their casual audiences, they even removed some of these modes. I feel like if you're gonna make a limited game mode, it'd be better if it was like a holiday specific mode with its own rewards (okay, maybe limited time rewards is a bad idea considering it's just another way to squeeze money out of the player's pockets).
But yeah, it's hard but I feel that a game should cater both to audiences who play the game casually and who play the game competitively. For casual players, they can maybe add a game mode, with random item drops like in Smash Bros, for competitive players, they can strive for a better ranking system and maybe rewarding and incentivising the playerbase to rank up, as well as balancing out the characters.
I live in southeast asia and wanted to play this on release but it was unavailable in our region, I think it came a bit later but I feel like they missed a big opportunity there coming out on release, we thrive off these free games lmao
oh the joy in my heart to come back to this comment section 4 months later
Miss it so much
man is so sad the state of the game, i grinded my jake so much, got a rank 2k best with jake and a 12k best overall, all of that for nothing now
As much as the game did flop IF the game comes back and they can support it properly this time, I think it could come back to be a solid fighting game that people would keep playing, I have not touched the game in a long time and on some random days I still get the thought "man Id love to play a couple matches of MVS rn"
Wonderwoman had great hitboxes. Not all of her moves were easy to hit but it felt great when I connected combos. Some other characters had ridiculous hitboxes that always hit me and i felt cheesed most games so I eventually lost interested in the game. Sucks because multiversus had a lot of potential. Maybe they can make a multiversus 2 that's feels more balanced
Minor nitpick, they never actually promised season 3. They only said the end of season 2. Nobody is wrong for assuming end of season 2 and start of season 3 would be the same thing, but it isn’t.
The net code was the core issue. That's always the core issue in fighting games. I'd rather play as a bunch of pixels with one attack than play a game where i can only use an attack 3 times and it either goes through my opponent or it doesn't knock them back. While my opponent just got free kill from loading in late and the rest of the match they're teleporting around. Wired connection, with the best Internet money can buy. 😂😂😂
Honestly I like this game more than smash bros. The floaty aspect of the game really started to grow on me before they took down the open beta. Definitely waiting for it's return.
Edit: I suppose my only real issue with this game was poor server stability. PS5 and series x players were able to get into the lobby before last gen users could (usually around 1-2 seconds, enough time to usually take a few hits but not die immediately unless you didn't know where your character was) and choppy server connection made it frustrating at times. Those are really the only gripes I ever had with the game
original gameplay was pretty good, at one point they sped it up and it felt like the flow wasn't as good
I don't like grinding, if the battle pass/ grind is too strong I just say what's the point. The skins are cool. Esp as a first game they did great and had a bunch of clever characters and move sets
haven't played in awhile. I do remember trying to to do two players locally to play online, and I didn't see the option. It would be nice to be able to play 4 players at home locally, I'm a smash bros fan, and would prob primarily play the game for that, if I could just buy and own it
Bugs and Velma were 2 of my favorite characters in any fighting game, i hope I'll be able to play them again someday
I will keep you in my prayers, I know this is a hard time you’re going through ❤️🙏
Notice how the February tweet never explicitly says Season 3 is starting right after Season 2. I bet they where planning on taking the game offline since december.
Ngl I need them to come back that game was fun
was not even able to play this... downloaded on the first day and since then till date, it keeps saying - no servers in my region or something.
Am I missing something ? It was a beta that ended and will release next year ?
Does this have enough fans to make servers?
I remember when gamers were raving that this was the NEXT SMASH BROS, that it would usurp it, this time it would be different! It was overhyped.
Now, it seemed fun, a team-based platform fighter with characters from shows I've watched? But that battlepass... I hate battlepasses.
Not only do you have to pay for them, but you also have to have the energy and focus to play daily and not abandon the game when the hyperfixation ends. I don't have that, man. You lose out on the ability to get special characters and skins if you aren't there since the beginning. It sucks!
Never played it...looked fun but I have to much spent in playing smash...as both my friends and family love it
I can't wait for this to come back I miss my LeBron
I've been playing super smash Bros since N64. My friend group plays regularly. No battle pass or any bs like that. Just fun to play. They need to change for the game same charge for dlc characters period. I'm not gunna grind a platform fighter. I just get on to have fun with friends
My biggest thing was it’s a fighting game with no way to block/shield. This game is literally asking you to spam bc they can’t do anything to block it.
This guy wouldn’t like playing melee or rivals of aether….
@thatcheesy8613 Melee has a sheild mechanic and rivals has a parry both defensive mechanics while Multi only has steven with a shield
@@Loldino897 the melee shield isn’t used that much and usually only for shield dropping and whiffs and do we **really** count parrying?