General Election: What does the public think about Rishi Sunak's National Service policy?
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In the Conservatives' first policy announcement of the general election campaign, Rishi Sunak said on Saturday he would introduce a new form of mandatory National Service for 18-year-olds if his party wins the vote in July.
Under the proposed policy, the Tories say 18-year-olds would be given the choice of a full-time military placement for 12 months or a scheme to volunteer for one weekend a month for a year.
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“Compulsory volunteering”. Double speak.
Not for rishis daughters though, of course.
All adults voting for this should be required to do it too.
Rishi putting the moron in oxymoronic
Yeh imagine that behind a gun
Compulsory but not regular military but prepared if war which is imment
So they can find £2.5 billion for national service to give young people 'opportunities' but couldn't find £2.5billion for crumbling schools or sure start centres 🤔
Schools are crumbling because of dead beats in society. Time to get everyone out of bed. Get the standards up
Some will be unemployed so will be cost less than specified
It will reduce military costs
@@highgatehandyman6479Schools are crumbling because the Tories aren’t funding them.
@@highgatehandyman6479What has poor quality building materials got to do with the great unwashed?
Notice how everyone who is in favour of this wouldn't do it themselves and look like they would have trouble going up a flight of stairs?
The guy at the end seemed so chuffed at the thought of "young people doing something" like we don't go college uni and then work to pay bills where do we find a year for free "volunteering" see how he feels a year out of any sort of benefit to his life
@@nameunavailable-gp3ot I know. He's never had to do it or face the actual threat of frontline war. Flippant idiot!
Nonsense 😂
only pensioners want this. typical selfish boomers.
@@kanedNunable Rubbish
I joined the army at 16 years old, I served 16 years and completed 3 tours of Afghanistan as an infantryman.
Although it made me the man I am today, it has also ruined my life, I am riddled with ptsd and depression, and the army do absolutely nothing to help.
I am 100% against this.
Bless ya mate
Convert to Islam like a lot of ex British and American troops are doing
Yeah because innocent people were killed and raped and tortured
Thought had universal health care
When innocent are murdered that's what happens God is not happy
Volunteering by definition is not compulsory, compulsory volunteering is community service.
or slavery...
@@alexharrison2743that volunteering at Oxfam. I did that back in 2015, for 2 months in 2015 just as an out of work stop gap, it was in their distribution centre. It was full on run around packing, stocking in their warehouse for free. Volunteering in name for charities like that is a scam.
So older people who wont be affected will be able to vote on sending young people potentially to their deaths.
Exactly. Why don't they focus on what will affect them, rather than everything they vote for being about making someone else's life worse.
As an old(ish) person I would NEVER vote for any party that would bring in compulsory national service. I have voted Tory for the last time. In fact I've probably voted for the last time. Bloody disgraceful. I feel sick with anger.
Nothing New there then, been happening for thousands of years
Yeah all those 🤡🤡 volunteering the young to go to Naziville Ukraine knowing their safe
Yellow streaked comes to mind
@@lloydwaycott8178well done for seeing what’s going on and changing your opinion when it matters most
Until recently the tories weren’t so bad, this policy to me is a sign they’ve given up on winning and now want as many seats as possible will start by trying to eat into the reform vote
if the guy with the umbrella thinks it's a good idea why didn't he choose to do it during his younger years to join the army then or a service and if he thinks it's a good idea why not fight and get some hands on experience in Ukraine and have fun with that
Good advice for all the "armchair warriors" out there..
Who in there right mind would fight for. These crooks all elite families first they love a good war as long as there not actually putting them self at risk
“their” right mind not “there” and themselves one word not them self “ Themself “ one word, was used for plural from at least 1382 and possibly 200years before that and for singilar 1450 and eventually “ themsleves “ became the “only” accepted form....
If the tories had their way theyd have people compulsory volunteering for every service. A society of plebs giving free labour to their taskmasters, feeling grateful for the few fortunate breadcrumbs that may happen to be spilled at our feet
Under his eye(liner)
They should have a referendum on it.
And those who vote for it get called up first.
A plebiscitt
Funny how it's always people who would be exempt from it that think it's as good idea.
They should ask if it's a good idea and if the advert is yes tell them there's no upper age limit
Exactly. I'm over the age limit and I think it's just another stupid policy idea from the stupid party.
Does anybody seriously think the Tories would be able to organize this when they have failed in basically every large-scale infrastructure project they've tried? This would be magnitudes more difficult than HS2, their free childcare policy, Rwanda, etc. And they've made a mess of all of those. They will never be able to orchestrate this in a million years.
@user-SubvurzIV Yep, and levelling up, their hospital building promises. The list goes on...
They'd definitely mess it up. 10,000%
Yes they would because they want war
Wishy is the worst unelected
😂😂
Send the guy with the umbrella to the front line in the Ukraine or to the Sudan, he's not too old to do something useful. Let's see how he feel about it then.
National Service is very different to fighting on the front lines smh
@@Aiden_Leitherit's just another excuse for conscription. A policy which has consequently sent millions to their deaths and inflicted tremendous suffering around the world.
It is a policy of the Old World, and should not be considered whatsoever bar a national crisis where the UK is directly threatened by another country.
@@jameswright4236 It's not conscription though and conscription would only be used in that scenario
@@Aiden_Leitherit’s getting people trained and ready for conscription which is even more horrifying
@@Aiden_Leither It's conscription-lite. Let's not dress it up.
Sunak has completely lost the plot.
He hasn’t the people giving him orders have
@@RegiyThornton He is closer to California now.
Take .gov down
I will if need
He's there to lose, he's actively sabotaging opposition to wokeness from within.
In malaysia we had compulsary national service. It was a waste of time for most youths that had done it and it was ultimately a front for the government to siphon away taxpayer dollars as well as cherry pick companies to set up and run the programme.
That's why rishi wants to do it
I love how people who never did a lick of national service or community work for no pay in their lives are so keen to volunteer today's youth for it.
Different world we live in now
@@OmarOsman98 One where they think there's enough money for the Triple Lock, but not for paying a decent wage to soldiers or looking after veterans properly.
It's starting to sound a lot like a dictatorship 🤐
No .
The difference is Kim actually pays his army well enough (compared to peasants) so people actually compete to join
Wait til Labour get in and start lecturing us about our collective duties and our social obligations.
@@jesuschrist6878 and , Keir Steirmer , a fmr prosecutor to the Crown Director of CounsciL , Keir Steirmer will take a kean pleasure in putting US all in to jail
@@jesuschrist6878 Because , i heard allready in 2020 Nicola Sturgeon MsP : Boris Jonhson and his criminel gang of brexiteers ....
SEND RISHI AND IS FAMILY TO RUSSIA FRONT LINE
Rishi will only fighr for his home nation of Pakistan
@@rickkarsan4491he not Pakistani he is Indian 😂
@@shahid61518 No difference.
@@shahid61518 Pakistan is just another form of India. Pakistan only exists because the British screwed over the Indians.
@@rickkarsan4491😂😂😂 shows the level of your knowledge. Calling Indian a Pakistani 😅😅
"Popular in other parts of the world." Not to those of us who were forced to do it it wasn't. I did my 18 months. Never again.
Conservative cannon fodder claptrap for the masses, but not for the privileged
🎯👍
The Royalls
Ridiculous comment. Grow a pair.
Want to send us against Russia.
@@47nrubreddew Nonsense and giving yourself a thumbs up makes your comment sadder.
So there are no money for public services, but thwre are money to waste on compulsory service?
They what more people employment, but also waste one year of young people who should be studying or looking for work.
If they suddenly found 2.5bn behind the sofa and they want to help young people, just put it into the education system.
@Takeawayking971 books and pencils designed every aspect of the modern technology that is enabling Ukraine to resist a much larger force, from drones to missile defence systems.
There's literally a saying for this, it goes,'the pen is mightier than the sword'
@@mrdaveythebaby Forget all that, Just ask Google :)
@@Takeawayking971 People in the army know that this is a terrible idea. They don't want more recruits for a few years, they want more weapons production and research.
Absolutely bonkers. He truly does not have a clue, shouldn't even be in the Commons let alone number ten.
"i don't know any working class people daddy, giggle, giggle"
He wasn't even voted in by us either.
@@cardboardbox6690 him and all the others were voted in as MPs by the English voters, the traitors to the UK. Those that let them steal billions while letting thousands die and then spout things like "Boris wasn't that bad", "i quite like Rishi" and the new disgrace, "i might vote for Farage"... traitors the lot
I thought the "conservatives" were meant to be all about 'freedom'. Instead it's mandatory for thee but not for we like usual
Certain classes will effectively be excluded, by design. The Tories only look after the upper classes. Nothing has changed in 100 years.
This is nonsense and desperate. The Armed Forces are being treated with contempt, what they need is proper funding and more resources. The present Tory leadership scapegoat everyone except themselves. Times are changing and the electorate are going to pay them back.
The Army listens to me !!! 😐🇬🇧
1:42 this guy acting as if he didn’t have the opportunity to enlist back when he was 18 😂
Indeed. He could have joined up, he just didn’t want to.
@@ffotograffydd And even now, why doesn't he go join a relief-work agency.
I thought the same 😂
Nah, he's much too important now, might miss going to Beryl's for elevenses! All these 17-18-19 year olds do is study, work, pay bills, maintain social lives and work out what they want to do for the rest of their life, plenty of time to stand around in a uniform listening to men around his age yelling "ATTENTION!" How useful.
Lost my vote now
Who ?
A policy to please old people who never had to do it themselves
As a 21yrs old if the goverment told me I had to sign up I'd leave the UK for good. I will never be part of the military, not only is it extremely dangerous, but it also goes against all my beliefs. Don't spread death and destruction, spread peace & love to everyone ☮️✌️
Bye bye
That symbol is the wrong way round.
Coward
But the rich doesn't care about the poor. They need the poor to protect themselves in case of a war created by kind of Sunak.😂
I completely agree, war is never the answer, yet all these old timers seem to want to do is continue and pass on their xenophobic and hateful views onto the young
Most young people have very little money and need to work. Making them volunteer for one weekend per month for a year is basically making them work unpaid for 24 days. This policy will be a disaster for Rishi, as it will encourage most young people to vote against him.
Not sure how many young people (who can read) were going to vote for him BEFORE…😂
Bet managers are gushing over this finally I can belittle someone for free
Many older people also have very little money and have worked all their lives, for what? Live is tough, always has been.
But , i AM told by Kića Jovan Aćimović , that brittons own many many BiT coins
Good!
I think young people can make their own choices as to how they wish to spend their free time. I don’t believe they need Sunak to make that choice for them.
Send them to me . PLease . 😐👏👏👏👏😐🇬🇧
surely the question should be why doesn't a modern education system provide these life skills?
Very true!
including the startling lack of financial education!!
Indeed.
Maybe if Britain stayed out of other nations wars, then there would be enough money for our education system.
Possibly reduce enemy threats too…
Just a thought 💭
@@francescapowell1538 If we can pluck money out of thin air to go to war we can do the same for public services, that's my thought.
If all young people doing community service is his intention
Why not make it part of the school system
This actually might work and achieve desired goals
But national service gets stuck of old men who never did a day of national service in their lives get up and vote on polling day to stop the softy youths
Give young people an opportunity to own a home, encourage people to have families, then people will fight tooth and nail to defend that.
Tories desperate for a Labour government. The plan ticks on.
After 14 years of Tory corruption, we are all desperate for a Labour government.
That's it mate spot on. The bunch controlling the Conservatives, want a Labour majority to undertake all manner of legislative changes, foremost of which is to reset Brexit.
Daiann Abbott 🙂👏👏👏🇬🇧
I like how my comment is censored
@@MilankaMilosevic-l4u she'd look like einstein compared to anyone in the tory party
Imagine forcing people to "volunteer" when they can't even vote
This is what seems unfair to me as a 24 year old if i was in 16,17 year olds positions i would want a say in if i was to do COMPULSORY Volunteering
@@TinCanTidy I'm 16 and I couldn't agree more.
'Compulsory volunteering' 🤔
Slavery?
@@ourmine2349 Exactly!
compulsory = no choice
volunteering = no salary
I believe they are trying to legalise slavery again
@@ourmine2349 Not to mention contradictory.
That's right up there with Military Intelligence
My grandson has just had his 18 th birthday this week and has been offered a place at a wonderful University in September… what…what…. Is this a joke… 🙏🙏❤️❤️
The university in question is abroad otherwise tell him not to bother. Get a trade
@@mypointofview1111 depends on the uni and depends on the degree. computer science is looking particularly lucrative right now.
@@mypointofview1111 Terrible advice.
My father just missed out on National Service and would have been in his early 80s if he was alive today. The idea that anyone below the age of 85 could have any kind of nostalgia for it is patently absurd. It's always the jingoistic armchair generals who think they won WWII despite not being born yet that get so misty eyed, remembering battles they saw on the silver screen whilst convincing themselves they were there.
Cant buy a packet of cigs but expected to fight in a war!!
😂😂😂😂😂
who in their right mind would want to do either. at least one benefits society 🤣
Brilliant reply. 👏
@@fantasypvp Yeah. the tax money from smoking is one of the few things actually helping to fund the NHS right now.
@@fantasypvp True. Cigarette tax is extortionate.
I think Sunak is possibly the most detestable politician in the west right now.
his parents are from east africa .....
@@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361no they're Indian, just happened to live in Africa because of colonial rule
West coast of US
The two young adults at the start spoke more sense than all the Tory ministers trying to sell this.
They should ask all races catch the pick😂
They aren’t even British though
@@athejbaka7084what are they?
@@everydaywinning They look west African or maybe Jamaican to me?
@@athejbaka7084 Your not even from the UK mate please stfu and sit down trying to be diversive with your childish pepe profile picture probably a 14 year old.
Community Service without a crime
Its a crime when people are lazy and do nothing to help their communities.
@@erichalfbee503 Any facts or a study to back that up or is just age bias? Can anyone show me anything that says this is not a cross generation issue or any issue at all?
@@andrewrose8141 Shall we start with the youth unemployment figures and then the number of unskilled job vacancies perhaps?
Plenty more evidence out there, shall I continue?
social-mobility.data.gov.uk/drivers_of_social_mobility/work_opportunities_for_young_people/youth_unemployment
www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/jobsandvacanciesintheuk/october2023
@@erichalfbee503 What like the Tory MP's?
@@erichalfbee503 like all boomers?
Sunak completely detached from reality 🤦
Deaf
Biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard, I'm sure that if they have a choice most won't be doing it.
If the tories win election which is a big if, most youngsters will tell them to stuff it.
We don't have a country anymore 😢
Agreed.
In anscient times
Over the Hills of Englland green
Bring me my bows of burning gold
Bring me my arrows of desire
Compulsory unpaid work = slavery. Young people are free to volunteer, being forced by the state is unacceptable.
Tory's are well and truly finished.
*Why would I fight for some other country’s borders for a government that won’t protect my country’s borders.*
At this point it feels like the Tories are self sabotaging on purpose lol
What!? So my son who is starting a electrical apprenticeship in Sept full time, would then have to volunteer at weekends too! No day off? Lost my vote now Rishi . Spend the money on NHS instead
Save the NHS - A Wallbridge in Kingdom United video 2019
The NHS Is on its knees - Keir Steirmer in june 2022
There is a large ethnic minority that won’t fight for England but are happy to live for free
If the tories really want young people to have opportunity or to be proud of this country then they need to put stuff in place that makes them feel proud and gives them opportunity, not forced “volunteering” or getting shoved into a boot camp that somehow gives people a chance, I suspect those who just don’t want to be in the army but need the little money they’ll get will leave the training and either leave the country or cement their Labour vote
As someone who grew up next to Catterick Garrison (biggest barracks in Europe), believe me when I say, joining the army doesn’t “foster national pride”. After a couple of years most squadies detest the work and the country.
perhaps the older people in the video saying they think its good should go then put their money where their mouth is
They could have joined up themselves, but they didn’t. I think their opinions can be safely ignored.
I think National Service is a good idea. The young generation need to learn some respect and manners.
@@jackhewitt600 They havent been respected.
@@jackhewitt600 isn't it funny how the generation who brought us antisocial youth subcultures like Mods, Rockers, Hippies and Punks, coupled with an explosion in drug use, think the current youth needs to learn some respect.
@@jackhewitt600 isn't it funny how the generation who brought us antisocial youth subcultures like Mods, Rockers, Hippies and Punks, coupled with an explosion in drug use, think the current youth needs to learn some respect
Sunak's plan is just a YTS (Youth Training Scheme) with jackboots. Thatcherite victimisation 101.
Thatcher already tried YTS military service back in the late 80s, it lasted a year then was scrapped.
National service what a joke, them days have gone.
yes lets have a pathetic military, that will serve us well moving forward. Dunce.
@@chrisg1441Chavs joining the army will make it weaker mate. Unless they are put under a cannon fodder section 🤔
@@chrisg1441We have a pathetic nation why exactly do we need a strong military?
Those* days
@@chrisg1441 Nah, let's have a good military that isn't full of clueless 18 year olds that have been forced to be there.
What about 18 year olds who have been accepted on a maths degree? Rishi was bleating on about maths 18 months ago...surely he won't want to hold back these budding mathematicians?
Maybe he just only wants people from poorer backgrounds to take part? Or those who didn't get A levels?
Sounds like a crafty way of fiddling the numbers. 'No...we don't have record numbers of young unemployed people. We have record numbers of unpaid volunteers'.
dont worry, citizens who have demonstrated exceptional feats shall be omitted. such feats include: paying for lord rishi's monthly holiday, donating £10k to the correct party or having a family member in the house of lords
Those on maths degrees will be made into infantry soldiers and sent to fight.
as someone with an offer from a top5 uni for CS next year, seriously considering reform rn lmaoo
Iszaack Newton 😐🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Why not ask some young people that this would be enforced upon?
Never going to happen. Only geriatric Reform UK Ltd voters have any say.
@@jackdubz4247The funny thing is the elderly are probably voting Reform and not Conservative for this election 💀
because a generation that can't decide what gender it is on a daily basis and has to be reminded not to eat detergent pods isn't worth listening to? Maybe a stint in National Service doing work for the community and not being allowed on their phones 24/7 might slap some common sense into them?
Young people need to vote. They have the absolute power to kick this nonsense where it belongs. Let's hope they've learnt from the brexit disaster.
@@theminisimmer THis Oldie isn't and there are many more like me. Stuff this ageist rubbish we have seen too many wars and the damage conscription does,So Just STF
It seems to me that Sunak is desperate to make sure that there won't be another Conservative government and he's taking every opportunity to make sure of that!
Another Rwanda style vote winner, well thought through, well explained and another 10 seats gone by July 4th.
lets hope so. 14 years of running the country into the ground is more than enough time for people to come to their senses. Even long standing Tory MPs have had enough and are either jumping ship or standing down.
Why don't the MSM simply say, that this will be a call up for people to fight with NATO troops in Ukraine as Ukraine needs more cannon fodder? It is fascinating how they Sky and MSM only show enthusiastic people for this militarisation plan, and no critics.
This is their plan send them to Naziville yet these 🤡🤡 on here think he,s doing them a favour
When the older people force the young to fight.. for their mess.
This is squarely aimed at the geriatric Reform voters, who get a semi every time they hear national service.
Gualloway
Whos that
Automatic? :)
@@craigrothwell6144 Nah, it's a lot of effort for them.
Compulsory volunteer 😵💫
Sound more bizarre than big brother newspeak.
Sunaks really lost the plot
Doubleplus ungood
How can the government possibly think the younger generation will fight for the UK, when for decades we've been told that we should be ashamed of this country and its traditions?
Not true
What traditions?
*I’d rather do prison time than fight for a country that hates me.*
Did sunak volunteer when he was 18?
National service - Sitting around doing nothing in a uniform with three meals a day at the cost to the British taxpayer.
With the private sector taking their cut of the spoils.
Until the crap hits the fan.
@@jackdubz4247public sector Needs to be steipped back to about ten percent of what it is
Unpaid military service.
Yeah, right.
@@alanbadhamWouldn't stop them. It's only for 25 days a year if they opt for voluntary scheme. Besides most crime is committed by over 21s. according to the police. And most anti social behaviour by under 16s.
Asking old men... From the luckiest generation to have ever lived.
At least the old can spell.
@@rebelmc7925 Great argument.
£2.5billion for this but for more important things like NHS, nah 👏
That last guy "gives youngsters something to do" - same old story. Meanwhile a lot of youngsters are struggling to find jobs / have weekend jobs.
These young people are brighter by far than the people in power.
Compulsory volunteering eh? Ridiculous Orwellian speech. No, just no, no forced labour in England for innocent people.
I love all the older people that never had to do it and probably have never volunteered to do anything wanting to force this on 18 year olds... who are legally adults. This is an absolutely ridiculous policy.
How will it work, if it's one weekend a month in for example the fire service, a highly skilled profession that requires constant training? How will supervise these completely untrained, potentially unwilling young adults? Are professionals in front line services expected to also "volunteer" train these people and take time away from their already overstretched jobs... It makes no sense what so ever.
It's a precursor for the future.
There's more to it.
Let sunak send his two daughter first then all migrant as we tax payer paying for them here in the uk
Or how about allowing immigrants or asylum seekers to go out and work, so that they can become taxpayers?
Obviously the dinghy people are exempt, they'd probably turn on their own side anyway.
@@eyesodd A lot of the "dinghy people" assisted the British in the last two wars. But, the torys couldnt be bothered sorting them out.
half arsed report by sky once again. mandatory National Service, just another reason to vote against the cons.
Conscription is against human rights.
Another expensive gimmick doomed to fail. They've given £250 million to Rwanda and have nothing to show for it. Don't even get me started on the money lost to fraud and written off by Sunak himself during the last few years.
It’s interesting to note that the first generation after WW2 who weren’t required to do national service are now turning 85 years old. So almost everyone who thinks this is a good idea weren’t required to do it themselves.
That's every parents votes gone up in smoke
I can't imagine Catholics in Northern Ireland are too happy!
History will repeat itself
Stop asking people over the age of national services!! Ask the people who will actually be called up
Hahaha the establishment insuts british people then throws this
Should interview young British people possibly ?
Sky News could'nt find any.
"Should interview young British people possibly ?"
^^Racist sh1ts like this are dying off.
Of course they won't, it would go against the narrative they are trying to spread
@@neillchippett655ignored the 97%
Sunak the dog of the WEF
^^encouraging voter stupidity
Will it teach them how to fight the government? That is our biggest opponent
not going to much use against a 10 ton atomic bomb
Or Iranian drones.
The smallest tactical nuclear weapon is 1 kiliton, which is 1,000 tons. There are no 10 ton nuclear weapons.
@ffotograffydd they can easily design such weapons if they wanted to.
The larger weapons are merely for tactical use or deterrent, your larger ICBMs and major warheads are for strategic strikes to cripple a nation's ability to retaliate.
The point is that a large army of conscripts would be no use because they would be instantly incinerated warfare has changed it’s a lot more technical nowadays?
@@jameswright4236 They can, but at very low explosive yields they don't detonate the nuclear material completely and are incredibly dirty as a result.
Goodbye free will. National service should be bought in for all the ill disciplined trouble makers as a punishment. Sunak is getting power mad. And what’s with the "if there was a choice, I would have gone for it" guy? The option was always there, genius
Goodyeartyre
There’s boat loads of people coming here they can prove they want to be here and they step up .
Good idea.
Sunak does not care about poor people, the rich will pay there way out
Nostalgia Fascism Culture Wars
Young straight white men are suddenly important
Only when it suits them
Boomer #2 - if I could've done it I would.
He could've joined one of the national services whenever he liked. This is COMPULSORY national service, young people would have no choice.
He could have joined the TA, I did.
Why does this feel like UK is taking a step backwards rather than forwards?
Rishi needs to volunteer to fight in the armed forces instead of enslaving the young
Older people think its great but they dont have to "volunteer"
18 year old back in the 1950's were a LOT more mature than the 18 year olds of 2024 that's for sure. Half of them today can't decide whether they are an Arthur or Martha let alone anything else.
😂
Why make it volunteering? Shouldn't it be paid service? Giving young people jobs is a great move, making them volunteer is not.
They may already be in paid employment having to do their 'volunteering' at the weekends.
There was a reason why they scrapped it in 1960.
Call it what it is; peace-time conscription. And before anyone says "but it's not just military", nor is South Korea's conscription.
Young people need to vote. They have the absolute power to kick this nonsense where it belongs. Let's hope they've learnt from the brexit disaster. Get your voter id and vote.