In the first ep when we see Cooper in the filming studio, he was filming "the man from deadhorse" and he didn't want to kill the man. He fought against it - He wanted to arrest the man as he was 'a good man'. Watching it now, he sees what he WAS (a good man) and now he is the villain - he's UGLY and STRONG, but he lost his dignity. It also shows that he was 'acting' with Lucy - he could never have shot her - he doesn't have a trigger finger (you see him trying to 'fake shoot' at the TV and his glove doesn't move. It's a really layered moment and one of my faves! GREAT REACTION!
Welcome back. Nice matching shirt-mug combo. 🙂 Very interesting subtext this episode. The Ghoul trying to prove to himself that you have to sacrifice your ethics to survive by 'breaking' Lucy. Only to have it reversed on him, and then on top of that, seeing himself at the point where he first compromised his own ethics by shooting the villain in the movie. Always remember in this show - things have reasons, even if they're not obvious. The Mr Handy has a caduceus on its side and took her to the first aid room. He was the medbot for the super duper mart following his original programming to heal before the new organ-harvesting hack. You've already seen Lucy toughen through the metaphor of the finger. Keep an eye out for the fate of Lucy's original finger. And always remember - Ass jerky don't make itself. 😏
When the lady in Filly mentioned her having all ten fingers... that was definitely a foreshadow. And then when she has the dead finger put onto her she gained a piece of the wasteland. And yes he put the finger on her so she would be in mint condition.
Loved your reactions to all episodes so far, but that comment about fussball-tournaments turning too competitive really made me chuckle since i thought the exact same thing when i first saw that scene, but until now i haven't seen a single reactor think the same thing, so thank you for that laugh 😂
The Super Duper Mart in Fallout 3 is your first major "dungeon". The loot you get there helps boost you through a lot of exploration afterwards. Remember that robots like Mr. Handy are simple intelligences following their programming to the letter. They aren't true A.I. Mr. Handy re-attached a finger for Lucy because someone made that a priority to tranquilizing her. You'll have to ask the machine's last user about his directive priorities, lol.
I’m fine with the anti-feral chem. We still don’t know WHY ghouls go feral, it’s possible not all of them do… the chem could easily just be some combination of StimPak and RadAway that repairs the damage to the brain temporarily. There was a doctor in Fallout 3 working on an anti-feral drug.
Either that, or someone is running a long-con on ghouls. If it "works" they'll come back for more - who would risk it?, if it doesn't, they can't come back and complain. It could be anything that's addictive so they feel withrawal.
In the last scene, I think he's telling himself that he's "ugly, strong but no dignity." He didn't even want to kill the man in the movie, but now he's a ruthless mother f.
I feel like Snip Snip giving Lucy a finger has more to do with his "initial programming" than putting her in "Mint" condition. They were designed to be super butlers, but Snip Snip was obviously reprogrammed
I think the current assumption is that since the show takes place after all the games, the medicine in the vials the ghouls take to keep from going feral is a recent invention. Pretty cool to think that medical advancements _that significant_ are still being made in the post-apocalypse.
It can't have been a recent invention, given Coop is over 200 years old. It's a retcon that has to predate itself, because of so many ghouls in game who have been alive since the war.
@@Tijuanabill I believe there are ghouls in the games who manage to stave off going feral in various ways, aren't there? The vials would just give them a more reliable way to do it.
@@Trev81 In the games its presented as just a random, uncontrollable thing. Not knowing when they turn feral, is among the reasons ghouls are outcast in many places. They could turn on your in your sleep, after being friends for 50 years. That said, you don't ever play from the perspective of a ghoul. So maybe this is something that isn't known about by anyone but ghouls and their chem dealers. I don't necessarily hate it, but they will have to explain something about it in season 2, or in the next game, and that might be hard to do.
@@Tijuanabill the current thinking is it was a very rare drug that was just really known about by ghouls who learned of it from the ghouls in the NCR area. When Shady Sands was destroyed the drug became much rarer since its manufacturing was wiped out.
@@toomanyaccounts You spelled "My" wrong. It's not spelled "The". YOUR current thinking is whatever you say it is; but we don't know what the thinking is, of the people making the show. Just sayin....
In the Super Duper Mart, the two stoners just work there. They're not the masterminds. Probably anybody who wants to capture a ghoul can bring it here for a few quick caps or some chems. Snip Snip would harvest ghoul organs, which wouldn't be as valuable as smooth skin or especially a pure vault dweller. Or they could be selling ghouls as slaves.
Steph and Chet are not related in anyway, say I from the future. Lucy's high luck stat scores again. Lucy levels up and gets herself an armored vault suit. Love Norm, he is getting answers.
IRL some people can be naive to the point of complete incompetence. I'm not surprised that never changed, even in the vaults. And if you ever read my rumination on the "Golden Rule" you would understand why the ghoul thought that the loss of each other's fingers was an "honest exchange." The root of the "Golden Rule" is simply reciprocity, but most people are a bit more hopeful than the rule abides. There is another side to the same coin, and I wouldn't call it a rule as much as a law. And it's not just a law, but one of those laws that you can't evade, like gravity. IOW you can't evade the consequences, whether you want to or not. And let's face it, sometimes you want.
Imagine needing that drug for 200 years, in a society with no digital currency, and the primary unit, a bottle cap, is itself both huge, and not worth much. He can't just stockpile caps; that would be nearly physically impossible. So he has been just doing bounties like 24-7-365, for 200 years, barring when they buried him alive.
I am fine with the anti-feral chem. The show needs some form of explanation and not everything will fit 100%. It could be whatever the one ghoul took to become a ghoul. The one potential continuity error, however, I just noticed during this interaction was that the Ghoul pulled his gun on Lucy to force her into the SuperDuperMart and it appears he was using the trigger finger she bit off.
You wonder if Roger is as old as Cooper? Roger said it's been 28 years since he first started showing signs of becoming a ghoul. Cooper was probably in his 40s in 2077 when the bombs went off, now in the time where he is the ghoul it has been 219 years. I think there is something more with Cooper/the Ghoul and what has been keeping him going so long. No, Stephanie and Chet are not related. Steph is from vault 31, and yes, she seems to have an agenda. As it's been said from other commentors on other channels, Snip Snip is a medical Mr. Handy, and he is just running his program from primary to secondary. He first heals then because the two humans who run the Super-Duper Mart probably hacked his programming, he carries out the secondary function. About that chemical, I am not sure this isn't a red herring because it isn't in any of the other games that I know of. As far as its makeup I'm guessing that it has RadAway, RadX, possible other chemicals along with extracts from either human or non-feral ghouls' adrenal glands.
Roger just said it had been 28 years since he started showing, that may mean since he started showing signs of going feral, and possibly that would mean Cooper's been showing signs for a long time but has always been able to afford the drug. Since they seem to need a vial a day, they can't need it immediately otherwise no-one would survive (there are several pre-war ghouls and the vials must have been developed after the bombs fell). As for the vials themselves, I think the showrunners simply realised that the process of going feral hadn't really been looked at too much in the games and thought this was a good way to develop it a bit.
"She's not very smart, is she?" Because she didn't know about something she'd literally never seen or heard about before, save one quick thing that wasn't explained to her? Wow.
In the first ep when we see Cooper in the filming studio, he was filming "the man from deadhorse" and he didn't want to kill the man. He fought against it - He wanted to arrest the man as he was 'a good man'. Watching it now, he sees what he WAS (a good man) and now he is the villain - he's UGLY and STRONG, but he lost his dignity. It also shows that he was 'acting' with Lucy - he could never have shot her - he doesn't have a trigger finger (you see him trying to 'fake shoot' at the TV and his glove doesn't move. It's a really layered moment and one of my faves! GREAT REACTION!
Welcome back. Nice matching shirt-mug combo. 🙂 Very interesting subtext this episode. The Ghoul trying to prove to himself that you have to sacrifice your ethics to survive by 'breaking' Lucy. Only to have it reversed on him, and then on top of that, seeing himself at the point where he first compromised his own ethics by shooting the villain in the movie.
Always remember in this show - things have reasons, even if they're not obvious. The Mr Handy has a caduceus on its side and took her to the first aid room. He was the medbot for the super duper mart following his original programming to heal before the new organ-harvesting hack.
You've already seen Lucy toughen through the metaphor of the finger. Keep an eye out for the fate of Lucy's original finger. And always remember - Ass jerky don't make itself. 😏
PLEASE KEEP COMING OUT WITH THESE!!!! Me and my family love watching your fallout reactions!
When the lady in Filly mentioned her having all ten fingers... that was definitely a foreshadow. And then when she has the dead finger put onto her she gained a piece of the wasteland. And yes he put the finger on her so she would be in mint condition.
He was watching the moment when he sold his soul to Vault Tech.
Loved your reactions to all episodes so far, but that comment about fussball-tournaments turning too competitive really made me chuckle since i thought the exact same thing when i first saw that scene, but until now i haven't seen a single reactor think the same thing, so thank you for that laugh 😂
The Super Duper Mart in Fallout 3 is your first major "dungeon". The loot you get there helps boost you through a lot of exploration afterwards.
Remember that robots like Mr. Handy are simple intelligences following their programming to the letter. They aren't true A.I. Mr. Handy re-attached a finger for Lucy because someone made that a priority to tranquilizing her. You'll have to ask the machine's last user about his directive priorities, lol.
that was his first aid programming as a household robot. the organ harvesting programming was added later but the first aid couldn't be removed.
I’m fine with the anti-feral chem. We still don’t know WHY ghouls go feral, it’s possible not all of them do… the chem could easily just be some combination of StimPak and RadAway that repairs the damage to the brain temporarily.
There was a doctor in Fallout 3 working on an anti-feral drug.
Fallout 4 has a dlc side quest in search for cure...Nuka Cola world
Either that, or someone is running a long-con on ghouls. If it "works" they'll come back for more - who would risk it?, if it doesn't, they can't come back and complain. It could be anything that's addictive so they feel withrawal.
Congrats on 1K.
In the last scene, I think he's telling himself that he's "ugly, strong but no dignity." He didn't even want to kill the man in the movie, but now he's a ruthless mother f.
We've seen attempts to use chems to stave off turning feral since Necropolis in Fallout 1, and a few other times since.
Yeah, the common outcome is that it doesn't work. This one could be just a con too - if it doesn't work, they can't exactly come back and complain.
@@rauminen4167 or that it seems to help but isn't a sure thing. The ghoul doctor working with the glowing ones in FO3 seemed to lean that way
Fudge, there's no fudge here 😂
I feel like Snip Snip giving Lucy a finger has more to do with his "initial programming" than putting her in "Mint" condition. They were designed to be super butlers, but Snip Snip was obviously reprogrammed
I think the current assumption is that since the show takes place after all the games, the medicine in the vials the ghouls take to keep from going feral is a recent invention. Pretty cool to think that medical advancements _that significant_ are still being made in the post-apocalypse.
It can't have been a recent invention, given Coop is over 200 years old. It's a retcon that has to predate itself, because of so many ghouls in game who have been alive since the war.
@@Tijuanabill I believe there are ghouls in the games who manage to stave off going feral in various ways, aren't there? The vials would just give them a more reliable way to do it.
@@Trev81 In the games its presented as just a random, uncontrollable thing. Not knowing when they turn feral, is among the reasons ghouls are outcast in many places. They could turn on your in your sleep, after being friends for 50 years.
That said, you don't ever play from the perspective of a ghoul. So maybe this is something that isn't known about by anyone but ghouls and their chem dealers.
I don't necessarily hate it, but they will have to explain something about it in season 2, or in the next game, and that might be hard to do.
@@Tijuanabill the current thinking is it was a very rare drug that was just really known about by ghouls who learned of it from the ghouls in the NCR area. When Shady Sands was destroyed the drug became much rarer since its manufacturing was wiped out.
@@toomanyaccounts You spelled "My" wrong. It's not spelled "The". YOUR current thinking is whatever you say it is; but we don't know what the thinking is, of the people making the show. Just sayin....
In the Super Duper Mart, the two stoners just work there. They're not the masterminds.
Probably anybody who wants to capture a ghoul can bring it here for a few quick caps or some chems. Snip Snip would harvest ghoul organs, which wouldn't be as valuable as smooth skin or especially a pure vault dweller. Or they could be selling ghouls as slaves.
Steph and Chet are not related in anyway, say I from the future.
Lucy's high luck stat scores again.
Lucy levels up and gets herself an armored vault suit.
Love Norm, he is getting answers.
Hey, great to see you back ❤
The surprise on my face when I first saw Coop "of mice and men" that ghoul, this show is so good.
Edit: props to snip-snip, he stole the show.
are you still releasing fallout reactions?
I’m partway through editing the next one. Life and work have just been so busy, haven’t had much time for side stuff lately 😭 but soon!
IRL some people can be naive to the point of complete incompetence. I'm not surprised that never changed, even in the vaults. And if you ever read my rumination on the "Golden Rule" you would understand why the ghoul thought that the loss of each other's fingers was an "honest exchange." The root of the "Golden Rule" is simply reciprocity, but most people are a bit more hopeful than the rule abides. There is another side to the same coin, and I wouldn't call it a rule as much as a law. And it's not just a law, but one of those laws that you can't evade, like gravity. IOW you can't evade the consequences, whether you want to or not. And let's face it, sometimes you want.
Imagine needing that drug for 200 years, in a society with no digital currency, and the primary unit, a bottle cap, is itself both huge, and not worth much. He can't just stockpile caps; that would be nearly physically impossible. So he has been just doing bounties like 24-7-365, for 200 years, barring when they buried him alive.
I am fine with the anti-feral chem. The show needs some form of explanation and not everything will fit 100%. It could be whatever the one ghoul took to become a ghoul. The one potential continuity error, however, I just noticed during this interaction was that the Ghoul pulled his gun on Lucy to force her into the SuperDuperMart and it appears he was using the trigger finger she bit off.
You wonder if Roger is as old as Cooper? Roger said it's been 28 years since he first started showing signs of becoming a ghoul. Cooper was probably in his 40s in 2077 when the bombs went off, now in the time where he is the ghoul it has been 219 years. I think there is something more with Cooper/the Ghoul and what has been keeping him going so long.
No, Stephanie and Chet are not related. Steph is from vault 31, and yes, she seems to have an agenda.
As it's been said from other commentors on other channels, Snip Snip is a medical Mr. Handy, and he is just running his program from primary to secondary. He first heals then because the two humans who run the Super-Duper Mart probably hacked his programming, he carries out the secondary function.
About that chemical, I am not sure this isn't a red herring because it isn't in any of the other games that I know of. As far as its makeup I'm guessing that it has RadAway, RadX, possible other chemicals along with extracts from either human or non-feral ghouls' adrenal glands.
Roger just said it had been 28 years since he started showing, that may mean since he started showing signs of going feral, and possibly that would mean Cooper's been showing signs for a long time but has always been able to afford the drug. Since they seem to need a vial a day, they can't need it immediately otherwise no-one would survive (there are several pre-war ghouls and the vials must have been developed after the bombs fell).
As for the vials themselves, I think the showrunners simply realised that the process of going feral hadn't really been looked at too much in the games and thought this was a good way to develop it a bit.
"She's not very smart, is she?"
Because she didn't know about something she'd literally never seen or heard about before, save one quick thing that wasn't explained to her?
Wow.