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Germany's most iconic Shunter!
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- The BR 80 of the Deutsche Reichsbahn is one of Germany's best-known shunting locomotives, but only few know about its complicated history and why it was a success and failure at the same time. So, sit back and let me tell you all about this iconic steam locomotive!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:29 Act I: Background
1:15 Act II: Development
2:25 Act III: Characteristics
3:42 Act IV: Downfall & Survivors
5:48 About the Artist
6:43 Outro
Class 80 and 89.0 were very common "start set" locomotives of a number of model railway manufacturers: They were of compact size, easy to handle even for children, but the body was still large enough to fit around the motors of the era. Most modellers used them for "universal branch line duties" with short passenger or freight trains regardless of how they were actually employed.
At my 6th birthday i got my first trainset (Trix Express) and yes it had a class 80 in it and 2 red / creme passenger cars in them.
Later in life i traded that in and went further with Minitrix.
Yea! I just digitalized my Arnold BR 80 from my starter pack in 1998. Everything still works on that loco!
@@taigabit I still use my original locomotives and use digital pulse control for different sections of track.
The classic motors of N scale locomotives or very small locomotives. can handle that way better then putting a digital decoder in them.
You can also refit them with a modern brushless motor / decoder.
In my case a magnet read contact on the locomotive gives an additional signal to power the upcomming part of track with pulse control power.
When only the led read contact is activated a steady voltage for the decoder. You need 2 track sections to seperate 2 trains who use different types of control.
The funny part is that in 1:1 scale railroads also use that also for sending signaling/ speed restrictions to their trains😁
As it happens, this morning I was pondering why classes 80, 81, and 89 dominated the starter sets. I came to the same conclusions as you did.
The large boilers were a godsend for the designers. A TRIX class 80 kindled the railway spirit in me which lasted through 28 years of work for the Deutsche Bahn AG.
You had me fooled. I first thought that these were Gauge 1. I have the Marklin Gauge 1 BR80 from the 1970's, so I was wondering if a new model had been introduced, only to see that it was CGI. Very impressive.
That tells me, my modeling work is heading in the right direction! But seriously, thank you so much!
FUN FACT: a gauge 1 Marklin Class 80, nicknamed the Marklin Engine, was used as a background engine in the original Thomas and Friends TV show.
Marklin?? Märklin!!!!@@lukemendel8197
@@lukemendel8197Yes, but only in the first season. After series 1, the “Märklin Engine” was used either as scrap dressing, or parts for characters. During production of TUGS, they used Märklin for both Puffa and Little Owl. Many years later, in Blue Mountain Mystery (2012) a CGI version of the BR 80 was used as scrap dressing. This would be the final time “Märklin” appeared.
I love German steam locomotives and railroad history, but learning about them can be troubling with language barriers and websites that aren’t translate-friendly. The models are beautiful too, love the content
Thank you so much! It's true, accessing information about German railways is quite difficult if you don't speak German, so I'm very happy my videos can fill that gap at least a little bit.
@@steelbridgemodels indeed, I’m glad you’re making content like this
In 1954, when I was six, a BR 80 Trix Express model became my highly appreciated first electric toy railway loco HO gauge. At the end of the 1960s, I enjoyed some occasions of ride sharing on those locos during their 'heavy duty' employments at coal mine KOENIGSBORN III/IV of RUHRKOHLE AG (RAG) near Dortmund (eastside Ruhr area). That was great fun: the very small engine used to accelerate a very long coal train to push off uncoupled freight wagons. After this furious take off, the driver broke the loco in such a way that this little 'appendage' of the heavy train was sliding serveral tens of metres until it came to a halt. That pleased the locos teams all over the day, and they were not bothered by the high wear on the wheel tyres, incl. flats. And over the shunting radio they entertained each other from loco to loco with wild male jokes.
I love the Class 80. Favourite background character in Thomas and Friends.
I've come to adore DRG steam locomotives ever since I discovered the joys of the Maerklin online store. It's hard to explain, but their style of industrial is just a lot more charming and transfixing than most non streamlined American locos. This is honestly amazing and I hope you keep it up.
I will do my best with multiple videos already in the works!
Interesting story. The British shunting engines were typically inside-cylinder 0-6-0 types with long wheelbases which could also be used for passenger services. There were three main streams of development. The Jinty type derived from a Midland Railway design of 1875, which was the basis of the diesel shunter which became the class 08; the GWR pannier tank, also of Victorian origin, and the Hunset Austerity, derived from an off-the-shelf type for industrial use. All were cheap and cheerful and could be and were, built in large numbers.
And then there was the Not so successful types of 0-6-0, including *dare I mention it’s name*
@@TheSudrianTerrier653 Go on, I'm intrigued!
@@inkyscrolls5193 the LB&SCR Billinton E2?
@@TheSudrianTerrier653 But of course! ='D
@@inkyscrolls5193 Here's a small List of their issues
1: Boiler was poor steaming and Coal hungry
2: they had trouble at Southampton and other places Navigating the tight dockside curves
3: were Known to ride roughly at high speed.
Beautiful modeling! I really thought these were large scale models with a very high level of detail. I definitely want to see more!
All done in Blender? Outstanding work, very nicely done! And a lovely deep dive into the history of that shunter and its evolution.
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!
Fun fact: The DRG BR 80 is the basis of Puffa from Tugs (1989). He had a few American modifications: An oil-burning light, a cowcatcher, a diamond-shaped funnel, and a chime whistle.
Because of their somewhat unsteady ride these locos had the nickname 'Schaukelpferd' (= rocking horse).
This was an amazing video and I love how you put real world history into this presentation. I will be looking for more videos in the future
Thank you so much!
Many thanks for this, it's great to learn the background to these locos, especially as I have models of them in both Z and TT.
Your Blender models are beautiful!
Thank you!
Excellent video. I am looking forward to seeing the next video.
I'm surprised that so few were built considering how famous they are. Going into this video I expected these to have been built in numbers similar to some of our iconic shunting locomotives: e.g. the GWR 5700 Class 0-6-0PT (863 of these alone were built, not to mention the number of other pannier tank classes the GWR built over the years) and the BR Class 08 Diesel shunters (of which 996 were built in the 50s and early 60s and plenty are still working on the mainline network and in the industrial sector to this day!).
Honestly, this is a cute little loco, and the fact that it was too heavy for some of its duties reminded me of the last of the GWR panniers built: the 1500 Class. Only ten of these were built, under BR after nationalisation by the way, and they had a heavy axle load that really restricted where they could run. Not ideal for a shunter! They were quite distinctive compared to other panniers, the design having been inspired by the USATC S100s that had been brought over by the Americans during the Second World War. One survives in preservation: no. 1501 on the Severn Valley Railway.
the little engine that DEFINITELY COULD
*That would
great video! very educational and taught me a bit mire about one of my favourite german shunting locomotives,also great blender models keep up the good videos!
Thank you so much for your kind words! The next video is already being worked on!
The archetypical starter set locomotive, they were rather simple models and you CGI certainly looks a lot better detailed.
I had the Fleischmann one with the rack railway cog wheel fitted, although in reality this locomotive was never built in a rack railway version.
Thank you! It's true, most of the available models are rather old and simple, but perfect for starting the hobby!
When i found your Models some weeks ago I could not stop thinking about 3d Printing. Then I noticed the Couplings. Now you by yourself are talking about getting the Models born in The real World which is great news! I have to admit I am working on solutions for very small but functional Model power Trains, 3d printable Couplings, rails, switches and control Equipment for almost two years. Using Batteries in the Models it is even possible to get them running on 3d printed rails with realistic rusty appearance. But i have to admit I am more talented as Electronics engineer than creating good looking 3d models.
Indeed, with 3D printing there is so much possible, but you have to think outside the box quite often. And creating good looking models is mostly about patience: As long as it's not looking the way you want, it's simply not done yet!
Kia ora and greetings from Aotearoa / New Zealand.I have been collecting Marklin and other HO scale trains since 1970. These videos are very interesting,can you do one on the class 85 2-10-2 ? Specifically with their use on the Hollental bahn from Freiburg in the days of the rack assisted sections of the 5.5% grades.There is one on static display at Freiburg retired in 1961.
Some day, a video about the Class 85 will hopefully happen! But it might take a while, as it's not one of my current projects.
This is one of the few classes that I do want to make work in one way or another
These guys are neat. I have 2 of them in model form
This class has basically become synonymous with model train sets, In parts because its compact side tank layout was easy and cheap to cast, and would cover bulky cheap motors easier than older more nimble and slim locomotive designs. Corner cutting cheap starter sets aimed at children and novice enthusiasts would shoehorn the design into various markets that never employed the BR 80, As such you could get one in RENFE, SNCF, FS, NS, DSB, PKP, RZD, CD and various other liveries. I also believe it is the only locomotive available in all scales perhaps part from the mainly American S scale and the new T gauge scale. If you want a challenge try making your BR 80 in those two scales! The other scales already got BR 80's in a variety of detail qualities.
I could see an ingenious modeler taking an American Flyer/Lionel S Gauge Dockside Loco (arguably the American equivalent of the BR80) and placing a custom BR80 Chassis on it. It would be pretty close in scale and size of the BR80 even with the limitations of S Scale.
Hey there, just stumbled on your channel after checking on videos about the BR80. I see you do 3D art. Your stuff looks nice, but I highly recommend you to learn sculpting to add organic details and imperfections into your models. Great little history lesson about that Locomotive!
Great video. The blender modeling must take a ton of time to get that much detail correct. Your model showcase is great. Subscribed
It does take a lot of time, but the final renders make it all worth it! Thank you so much for your support!
Incredible work! I'd love to see some Prussian designs like G 8.1 G 10 G12 P8 (I've enjoyed the episode about BR 38 a lot) as some of these engines were used in Poland and were a contrast sight for omnipresent Br 52 and post-war polish builts.
Thank you so much! I have a good number of Prussian locomotives in my collection and plan on creating more in the future. So, expect to see more about that sooner or later.
I purchased an HO Gauge Fleischmann 0-6-0 German Class 80 Steam Locomotive with road number #80 005 from eBay recently, but it is absolutely drowned in lubricating oil and I want to clean it up and am looking for any videos on the service and repair as I am having trouble working out how to get the body off to be able to service the motor and gears. It is a beautiful looking little shunter. Thanks for the information you provided in this video.
I'm glad you enjoyed my video! Unfortunately, however, I can't help you with how to open your model, but wish you good luck with the cleaning.
Nice
You have potential. I have just a handful of equipment by Marklin in HO, I hope you keep covering German locomotives, & rolling stock into the future because it's hard to remember everything after going from modern American diesels (home terf), to steam, then to Warships, and now, German trains as one of a handful of side hobbies (warships being the primary hobby). By any chance, can you cover the BR86, BR52, or BR73?
Ausgezeichnet! Maybe a class 01, 86, or Kriegslok next? All iconic DR/DB classes.
The clas 80s were also very important in the production of thomas and friends as the marklin models were modified to look like thomas in the show.
If you are still taking requests for locomotives, I’d love to know more about the BR 23s and 18 201. They are some of my favorite German locomotives
Please consider making the model available for simulators like Derail Valley.
[Stahlbrückenmodelle]
Steriler als 'ne Artzt praxis ;)
And yet no up-to-date H0 model of the BR 80! Who can understand that?
Does anyone know a place where I can buy a Gauge 1 model of that Alno 0-6-0?
To be honest, I did not quite understand why the class might be considered a design failure. Was it too heavy for branch line service? Horst Obermayer writes it was designed for shunting in large passenger stations. For this job its axle load of 18.2 tonnes seems perfect. On second thought I wonder why DR ventured to build a 4-axled clone, type 81 with an axle load of 17 tonnes. Success or failure - millions of scale model class 80 kindled lifelong passion in many railroad buffs. 80 014, now housed in the Bavarian Railway museum at Nördlingen, was once legally owned by a 10 year old school girl. She was/ is the daughter of the late Dr. PETER BEET, the founder of Steam Town Carnforth. He transferred the loco to his minor daughter to reduce his own tax load. His canny trick made headlines :)
The high centre of gravity, combined with long overhangs and tiny wheels made it prone for derailments. And while doing fine in stations, the high axle load restricted its versatility quite a lot as it could not go on most branch lines to deliver local goods trains like other shunters often did. The simpler BR 89.0 tried to overcome these issues while the BR 81 was meant for different, heavier duties altogether.
@@steelbridgemodels Thank you for your explanation. It´s dawning on me now, why many early small engines had relatively large drivers although they were limited to 30 km/h. "It´s the trackability stupid." :)
Could you cover the Ludmilla in all it's variants?
I’d like to see a video about the S 3/6 lol.😊
I'd love to do a video abut the Bavarian S 3/6 someday!
Modeltrain builder Fleischmann made a BR80 model with a cogwheel on it's front axis to overcome steep slopes. Is this a Fleischmann gimmick or was there a BR80 with a cogwheel?
I never knew Fleischmann did produce such a variant of the BR 80, but it certainly never existed in real life. In fact, the class 80 would have been a pretty bad basis for a rack locomotive due to its poor weight distribution.
@@steelbridgemodels Then I think not only the livery was made-up :-) In this video you see the model in action. You can see the cogweel in the drawing of the locomotive. I have this loc (second hand purchase, bad condition) and when climbing steep slopes I ran the loc backward to get maximum pressure on the front axis, otherwise it would jump over the teeth of the cogweel track. ruclips.net/video/qlP-GGDD-VI/видео.html
"Proved to be too heavy and too complex." Yeah, sounds right for German stereotypes.
Some railway model producers tend to put it in sets with passenger coaches. Was this locomotive ever used in passenger service?
I think only on museum railways.
It's very unlikely, as the Class 80 was on the one hand too slow for mainline trains, and on the other too heavy for most branch lines, not even to mention the rough riding. Maybe as a stand-in it could have happened, but surely not as a regular. However, as they were commonly used as station pilots, seeing them with passenger wagons wasn't a rare sight, albeit just for shunting, of course.
V200 Diesel
ich hab noch 2 80er von märklin. sind meine lieblinge
575 psi seems way too much for something so small
It certainly was!
@@steelbridgemodels I think the Up Big boys only had 300 psi boilers, so this was really the little engine that could!
A German E2?
Shouldnt Reichsbahn be translated as Imperial Railway instead of National?
Well, I wouldn't say so - the Reichsbahn was basically the German National Railway during that time.
While "imperial railway" is the literal translation of "Reichsbahn", it is a misleading translation. Even though the name "Deutsches Reich" was kept in 1918, Germany was not an empire any more when the Deutsche Reichsbahn was formed in 1920. Therefore, "national railway" is the more appropriate translation. However, both terms are frequently used and understood.
Thomas fans?