There are Märklin collectors outside of Germany? I always thought that Märklin siding make enough rolling stock from outside of Germany. Do you collect German stuff or the little and very expensive American stuff? Well I’d guess that it is German stuff because you wrote this, but still, why?
I absolutely love these. Short and sweet, but with a lot of love and information crammed in. There are many youtubers who focus on planes and cars but you are the first I've found that does trains with 3d animation/models. Keep it up.
Great video. Thank you for making it for the English speaking audience. I model German trains in g scale but don’t speak German. That being so, much of the context in the old videos from Germany are lost on me.
As an English speaking HO Germany modeler, I fell in love with the BR50 Kab. After all these years, I still think the BR50 Kab pulling a long train of E wagen is my favorite. Have you seen the "backpack" cabin prototype? That would have been a ride while running tender first.
Indeed, a BR 50 with cabin tender and a long row of E wagons is a classic! And yes, I do know the backpack prototype. Its cab is pretty much pushed out as far as possible, almost a bit scary riding in it tender first...
I'm a member of the Steam Department of the Illinois Railway Museum, and we have a locomotive that's quite similar to the DR Class 50. The "Russian Decapods" were built under contract for the Imperial Russian Railways during the Great War, but after the Bolshevik Revolution, a couple hundred were completed but never delivered; the new Communist government concluded a separate peace treaty with Germany, and refused to pay the Imperial government's debts. So these were sold to US railroads instead. It's of similar size and power to a Class 50, and ours (which still operates) has a little cabin on the tender deck. Not as elaborate as these, it's just big enough for a seat, meant to give the head-end brakeman a place to ride, out of the way of the engine crew.
Vielen Dank für die sehr hilfreichen Auskunft über die Entwicklung und die Mängel des Kabinentenders der Baureihe 50. Dies wird nirgendwo anders erklärt, obwohl es sich offensichtlich um einen Ersatz des Gepäckwagens handelt. Ich hatte gelesen, dass die Fahrt in der Kabine aufgrund der Wassermasse und der daraus resultierenden Kondenswasserbildung nie wünschenswert war.
Though I'm an American, I have been interested in European, particularly German railroading for a long time. It is really nice to finally learn about the various locomotives and cars, and your models are breath taking in detail and beauty. I hope you have a BR 23 on your list somewhere.
Thank you for the info. On a different subject, safety of transported load. You views of the class 50 with chemical tanker loads. If the loads are explosive, volatile, acidic, alkaline or otherwise harmful to the environment or peoples then there should be a barrier wagon behind the locomotive and possibly at the end of the train before the guards van. The barrier wagon should be substantial and protect the crew from 'issues' with the load, and protect the load from the exhaust items from the loco.
Fine video. in 1969... the real cabines might lost its formal function. also the first model whee Fleischmann kicks off in N gauge. with cabine. As N driver I have a 50 ith cabine rolling. I like this very unusual feature at the tender. It adds much tenderness and raw breathes
The D&RGW had something simular on their narrow guage lines (they ran 3ft guage, & standard guage), notably with there C125 type. No tenders in preservation on the Durango & Silverton, or other tourist lines, or static displays have examples of these tender types. For a frame of reference, the D&RGW narrow guage ended operations shortly after world war 3, while the standard guage operated 'till the 1990's, and after buying the Southern Pacific (also ending operations in the 1990's when both (still independent companies) were bought by the Union Pacific. The famous part of the old D&RGW in the Rocky Mountains operates still to this day, under the name Durango & Silverton.
Echoing what people have already said, thank you for making this excellent content! I model US railroads in the 1940s, but am greatly drawn to German wartime and post-war steam and hope to have a BR50 Kab in my collection one day. Having the history and design of these fine loks outlined with a visually rich and engaging narrative is wonderful, and I have subscribed for more.
@@steelbridgemodels I've found myself re-watching this video almost once a week. The quality, narrative, and design makes it really appealing, and am most grateful to have this information available in English. I've finally gotten myself a model of one of these loks, and looking forward to running it as I rewatch this vid yet again. Love your work!
I always thought that here in Britain we were late to the party in terms of ending mainline steam (the use of steam locos in the industrial sector lasted into the 70s and I think maybe even near the eighties in some cases), so I was surprised to find out that mainline steam in West Germany lasted until 1977! And to think that Germany had been at the forefront of developing diesel traction in the 30s with the likes of the Flying Hamburger. I guess that WW2 and the split into East and West Germany might have played a part in steam power lasting so long? The cabs on the tenders look a little odd but honestly, they're pretty cool! We didn't do any of those in the UK as far as I know! It's nice to find a channel that talks about German locos, I don't know much about them but I do quite like them, particularly their whistles, they sound quite ghostly (that and I've always wanted to ride on the Harzer Schmalspurbahnen, that's on the bucket list to do at some point!).
Indeed, both the war and the division into East and West were a huge setback for the German railways. But also the war preparations before 1939 already slowed down the development of modern traction enormously, as there was little to no support from the regime for civilian transportation. By the way, in Eastern Germany, mainline steam lasted even longer - until 1988.
@@steelbridgemodels That's mad! 20 years after mainline steam ended in Britain (August 1968) East German steam was still going! I assume some of that's simply a consequence of the different policies between the communist and capitalist governments.
I've been wondering if these kriegsloks that were built during the war received red paint on the undercarriage and if other dampfloks had the red painted over
Hey i have an old Märklin DRG 2-6-0 and would love to know what type of engine it is (or 1-3-0 if you dont use the whyte wheel arrangements like the French)
I’m a British steam modeller, but I love these German 2-10-0’s and am looking for any excuse to run one on my BR Western/Midland Region 1960’s layout. Sometimes I think it might be easier to model SNCF (I live in France) Oh sod it. It’s my Railway, I’ll run what I like…😂😂😂. Think I’ll go see what’s on offer on eBay in the way of DR/DB 2-10-0’s…
As an American Marklin collector, it's about time that there was a channel that discussed locomotives, but from the German perspective.
And I am very happy to have the chance to fill that niche! Thank you!
There are Märklin collectors outside of Germany? I always thought that Märklin siding make enough rolling stock from outside of Germany. Do you collect German stuff or the little and very expensive American stuff? Well I’d guess that it is German stuff because you wrote this, but still, why?
Oh, and please don’t take this in the sense of me criticizing you. I am just interested in your perspective.
Very interesting design, in the US a few railroads did something similar. We called them "doghouse" tenders.
Quite similar naming to the "Rabbit Boxes" in German control cars. Love it!
This version of the DB BR 50 is my favorite version.
Same for me. Mine is 45 years old. Still working.
I absolutely love these. Short and sweet, but with a lot of love and information crammed in. There are many youtubers who focus on planes and cars but you are the first I've found that does trains with 3d animation/models. Keep it up.
Thank you so much for your kind words!
Great video. Thank you for making it for the English speaking audience. I model German trains in g scale but don’t speak German. That being so, much of the context in the old videos from Germany are lost on me.
Thank you! I'm glad my videos are helpful to you and succeed in making German railway history more accessible.
As an English speaking HO Germany modeler, I fell in love with the BR50 Kab. After all these years, I still think the BR50 Kab pulling a long train of E wagen is my favorite.
Have you seen the "backpack" cabin prototype? That would have been a ride while running tender first.
Indeed, a BR 50 with cabin tender and a long row of E wagons is a classic! And yes, I do know the backpack prototype. Its cab is pretty much pushed out as far as possible, almost a bit scary riding in it tender first...
I'm a member of the Steam Department of the Illinois Railway Museum, and we have a locomotive that's quite similar to the DR Class 50. The "Russian Decapods" were built under contract for the Imperial Russian Railways during the Great War, but after the Bolshevik Revolution, a couple hundred were completed but never delivered; the new Communist government concluded a separate peace treaty with Germany, and refused to pay the Imperial government's debts. So these were sold to US railroads instead. It's of similar size and power to a Class 50, and ours (which still operates) has a little cabin on the tender deck. Not as elaborate as these, it's just big enough for a seat, meant to give the head-end brakeman a place to ride, out of the way of the engine crew.
Vielen Dank für die sehr hilfreichen Auskunft über die Entwicklung und die Mängel des Kabinentenders der Baureihe 50. Dies wird nirgendwo anders erklärt, obwohl es sich offensichtlich um einen Ersatz des Gepäckwagens handelt. Ich hatte gelesen, dass die Fahrt in der Kabine aufgrund der Wassermasse und der daraus resultierenden Kondenswasserbildung nie wünschenswert war.
Though I'm an American, I have been interested in European, particularly German railroading for a long time. It is really nice to finally learn about the various locomotives and cars, and your models are breath taking in detail and beauty. I hope you have a BR 23 on your list somewhere.
Thank you so much! I will definitely do the BR 23 someday, but you have to be patient with me.
@@steelbridgemodels No problem, I know that when ever you do it, it will be worth the wait. :)
Thank you for the info. On a different subject, safety of transported load. You views of the class 50 with chemical tanker loads.
If the loads are explosive, volatile, acidic, alkaline or otherwise harmful to the environment or peoples then there should be a barrier wagon behind the locomotive and possibly at the end of the train before the guards van. The barrier wagon should be substantial and protect the crew from 'issues' with the load, and protect the load from the exhaust items from the loco.
Thank you - I have always wondered what the background was to those tenders.
Fine video. in 1969... the real cabines might lost its formal function. also the first model whee Fleischmann kicks off in N gauge. with cabine. As N driver I have a 50 ith cabine rolling. I like this very unusual feature at the tender. It adds much tenderness and raw breathes
Brilliant video
Love your work mate!
The D&RGW had something simular on their narrow guage lines (they ran 3ft guage, & standard guage), notably with there C125 type. No tenders in preservation on the Durango & Silverton, or other tourist lines, or static displays have examples of these tender types. For a frame of reference, the D&RGW narrow guage ended operations shortly after world war 3, while the standard guage operated 'till the 1990's, and after buying the Southern Pacific (also ending operations in the 1990's when both (still independent companies) were bought by the Union Pacific. The famous part of the old D&RGW in the Rocky Mountains operates still to this day, under the name Durango & Silverton.
Echoing what people have already said, thank you for making this excellent content! I model US railroads in the 1940s, but am greatly drawn to German wartime and post-war steam and hope to have a BR50 Kab in my collection one day. Having the history and design of these fine loks outlined with a visually rich and engaging narrative is wonderful, and I have subscribed for more.
Thank you so much for your kind words! More will certainly follow!
@@steelbridgemodels I've found myself re-watching this video almost once a week. The quality, narrative, and design makes it really appealing, and am most grateful to have this information available in English. I've finally gotten myself a model of one of these loks, and looking forward to running it as I rewatch this vid yet again. Love your work!
Superb .... Most interesting 😁
Just discovered and already I love this channel!
Thank you so much!
I’m USA , we have these too they have a nick name “ dog house “ usally for the break man
I always thought that here in Britain we were late to the party in terms of ending mainline steam (the use of steam locos in the industrial sector lasted into the 70s and I think maybe even near the eighties in some cases), so I was surprised to find out that mainline steam in West Germany lasted until 1977! And to think that Germany had been at the forefront of developing diesel traction in the 30s with the likes of the Flying Hamburger. I guess that WW2 and the split into East and West Germany might have played a part in steam power lasting so long?
The cabs on the tenders look a little odd but honestly, they're pretty cool! We didn't do any of those in the UK as far as I know! It's nice to find a channel that talks about German locos, I don't know much about them but I do quite like them, particularly their whistles, they sound quite ghostly (that and I've always wanted to ride on the Harzer Schmalspurbahnen, that's on the bucket list to do at some point!).
Indeed, both the war and the division into East and West were a huge setback for the German railways. But also the war preparations before 1939 already slowed down the development of modern traction enormously, as there was little to no support from the regime for civilian transportation. By the way, in Eastern Germany, mainline steam lasted even longer - until 1988.
@@steelbridgemodels That's mad! 20 years after mainline steam ended in Britain (August 1968) East German steam was still going! I assume some of that's simply a consequence of the different policies between the communist and capitalist governments.
The debate stands, whether the P8 Wannentender or the BR50 Kabinentender is the ugliest.
Well, they're both quite unique, so let's maybe leave it at that. 😄
The Austrian cab tub tender beats them in those terms.
I have also seen a picture of a wannentender with a cab on it!
It is a br 52 with a cabintender
This must be one from the austrian railway. The german railway build only cabins on box tenders.
As it has been already said, this was probably an Austrian machine, as the ÖBB fitted many tub tenders with cabs.
I've been wondering if these kriegsloks that were built during the war received red paint on the undercarriage and if other dampfloks had the red painted over
Hey i have an old Märklin DRG 2-6-0 and would love to know what type of engine it is (or 1-3-0 if you dont use the whyte wheel arrangements like the French)
Probably a BR 24, Märklin produced them in large numbers.
Correct wheel arrangement means "Achsfolge" in UIC logic would be 2'C.
I’m a British steam modeller, but I love these German 2-10-0’s and am looking for any excuse to run one on my BR Western/Midland Region 1960’s layout. Sometimes I think it might be easier to model SNCF (I live in France)
Oh sod it. It’s my Railway, I’ll run what I like…😂😂😂.
Think I’ll go see what’s on offer on eBay in the way of DR/DB 2-10-0’s…
That's the spirit! And after all, at least in preservation some German locomotives made it to the UK...
@@steelbridgemodelsSome even got repatriated from the UK as Dr Beets 01 1104 😉
A very thorough, entertaining, and informative presentation. Gut gemacht!
Hello, what scale is that BR50, it seems far too detailed to be an HO model?
It's a digital render, but planned to be 3D-printed in 1:50 scale.
Is this computer graphics? Where to download? Models on a table? Where to buy?
Yes, these are digital renders and I plan to 3D-print them someday. Currently, however, they are not available to buy.
@@steelbridgemodels They are all on mu childhood's favourite list (I'm 57)
Why do you need a "guard" I guess the locomotive will drive without one just fine.
Rio grande k-locos: *Am i a joke to you?*
German adaption of an D&RGW doghouse
Hmm they look similar to the doghouse in the US.
Why are you talking about diesel-electric locomotives? The diesel locomotives that superseded the steam locomotives in Germany were diesel-hydraulic!
That is true, which is why I'm not talking about diesel-electric locomotives in this video at all, but rather about "diesel and electric locomotives".
I love your content, also on instagram❤
Thank you so much for your support! 💛
@@steelbridgemodels Thanks for your great work!