I bought a "cheap" safe at Tractor Supply. It was in the garage that had a fire. I lost two cars and all my tools. But the contents of the safe were not harmed. It was fire-rated at 1,200 degrees for 45 minutes with a dual-stage triple fin door seal. And it came with a lifetime warranty. I sent the company (Cannon) pictures and the fire department's report and received a new safe.
I was reading up on safes on a gun forum and someone had an interesting fire story... Safe was in the garage which the fire hadn't reached. Fire Dept. went in with some kind of saw and cut a hole in the safe then pumped it full of water. They told him they didn't want the ammo cooking off inside and "firing" rounds at them.
@Olav Viking Huh? Laying it on it's back is the only reason they were able to open it. It's how they got their leverage... If it was standing up, how do you think they are going to apply force??? It'd be nearly impossible.
Take a look at their site. Their safes are of almost identical construction as others where it’s takes very little time with an angle grinder to cut it open. Not impressed. Especially when they can’t advertise their price either.
@@hwypilot1 Ah dogs....the early detection system. Get the biggest meanest looking mush pup to intimidate and they will never see you while you blow them away.
@@xjinit If its like mine....its buried in a closet right up against a wall with just enough room to open the safe door. Hard to get a crowbar in there let alone a huge ass prybar.
You just demonstrated why it is important to bolt your safe to the floor and or wall. You also convinced me that having done so my cheap safe is good enough.
Agreed, This demonstration showed how easily it is to enter the safe provided, your are a two man team with a 6 ft pry bar in an area where you have ample room in order to knock safe over as well as stand beside said safe to work. I highly doubt this to be as easily done provided the safe is bolted to the floor in a limited space environment where leverage is not able to be applied.
Bolt it to the floor and the wall. That's how I did it. 3/8 Concrete anchors to the wall and floor in a corner. Not an easy task to get into it. Then for good measure all small valuables are inside small fire safes as well inside of the main rifle type safe.
Hate to burst your bubble. Lithium Battery powered angle grinder and I’m in that safe faster then those two hoods got into this one. I will cut the fuck out of your shitty little safe. Just kidding. But the angle grinder thing is serious.
I’d say better than this guy can form a sentence. “How Safe is you safe” I used to run a Locksmith shop for years. There are basically two types of safes - fire safes and Burglary safes and while there are a few manufacturers that offer a combination of both such as Amsec they are Considerably more expensive. What he is showing here is what most all the “Big Box” stores sell such as Sentry or Liberty safes which is an inexpensive fire safe. They are designed specifically to keep the contents inside safe from a fire and although cheap they will in fact do what they are designed to do. - keep in mind they are not designed to keep burglars out so a persistent thief with the right tools could gain entry. There are higher end fire safes out there if you want them but you will not find them in the “big box” stores unless you special order them. Burglar safes are designed with hard plates and resist drilling and forced entry. Most burglar safes even have Copper plates that disperse heat when attacked by a torch where fire safes have a fire resistant type of cement to insulate the contents. I’ve seen large pinch bars break the anchors of safes bolted down and even heavy ones can be tipped over but that does absolutely nothing to help gain entry. Good burglar safes have what they call “relockers” that engage if the dial or edges are attacked. So in other words if all you want to do is keep your guns out of reach from your kids or protect important documents from fire the cheap “big box” stores will do just fine. If your truly trying to protect your valuables from a theft then spend the extra money and get a burglar rated safe or better yet a combo fire / burglar safe if you can afford it. The best tip I can give you to save money is a floor safe. 99% of them are burglar safes with the safe guards of relockers if attacked from above but by putting them in the ground it makes them VERY resistant to fire damage. Bottom line is get the safe that fits your needs wether it be a higher end safe or a less expensive fire safe but don’t let this clown use scare tactics make you spend more money than you need to. Hope this helps anyone that is deciding on what type of safe is best for them.
taiken5968 Mesa also offers a fire / burglary combo safe in their MBF series but they are going to be a little more expensive than their safes that just offers fire protection. If losing the contents to a fire is your main concern go with their fire safe and save yourself some money. If the fire / combo safe is within your budget you will be purchasing a much better quality safe than the Sentry and Liberty safes you typically see in the big box stores. Nothing wrong with a Mesa safe at all but if the combo safe is within your reach you will gain all security features that go along with a burglar safe. Good Luck !
Very well said! Especially the part about scare tactics. Did you notice the foreboding, ominous music they played in the background? Really? And who keeps their safe in the middle of a room? And of course unbolted, and with more than ample room on both sides, to pry away at it. Geez...
I was just getting ready to say the same thing side by side comparison.....vigilance and commen sense protects you and yours along with an edged weapon or firearm. My attitude come to my house and try that shit I got something for you criminals😏
"What on earth was that huge slam?!? Did someone just knock over the safe we keep in the middle of our living room?!?" "no honey your being paranoid. Go back to sleep"
Likewise 'xyz professional'. There's no such thing as a 'safe', 'toilet' or 'trash' professional. They're just people trying to flog a product, by hijacking the term 'professional (which is an unprotected term i.e. anyone can call themselves a 'professional'). Locks are hardly like brain surgery. The installers are either good locksmiths or they're not, without all 'the sky is falling in' alarmism that no one is really interested in anyway.
@@NinoNiemanThe1st I can argue that... if this man sold you one of the Graffunder safes that were in the video it would have definitely been an investment and those guys with the pry bars would have had grey hair before they pried their way into it. It makes me laugh with some people, I’m not going to secure 100k in guns and 20k in the little ladies jewelry along with my important papers in a safe that cost 1500 dollars.
@@jj3449 Fair enough, but you can argue it's a cost/probability issue. Some people would think a $1,500 safe for stuff they want to protect is fine (as long as they don't advertise what they own widely - thereby advertising their vulnerability). For most robbers, looking for basically non-fungible gear, it would suffice. You'd be lucky to get 20% of the 'worth' of 'little ladies jewelry' (wtf that is) by anyone stealing it. You have to factor that in when you buy a safe - it's a cost/benefit trade-off. Spending more than $1,500 to secure $120K of property is only a good investment statistically if you live in a crime-ridden zone, or a 3rd world country.
Everyone knows a guy wearing black hoodie is plotting something. Like buying crack. Or breaking into a vault, to buy crack. I believe Baker plucked these guys straight out the trailer, they aint messing around. The L1 2min Hoodieproof standard
You're right. There are things to make those cheaper safes more secure. But that thinner metal means you just need a battery powered sawzall to cut right through it in about the same time. They're definitely better than nothing though.
@Duke Of Prunes hopefully you have it bolted to the floor too. Yes that is a lot of weight. But there are people who will drag it if they think it's worth it and have enough time. I used to work for Cabelas and I've seen it before. The customer thought it was too heavy. The deep scratches in his floor where they dragged it showed otherwise.
I was thinking about that myself, my safe came with cables and such and instructions to bolt the safe to the floor and to a stud in the wall, and mine is a fairly cheap safe, I know that and I understood it when I bought it, but I bought it with the understanding that it may frustrate them long enough that they give up before they get in, after all like someone else said alarms are going to be going off, unless they by passed that too, and if they are that advanced why in the hell are they in my house? they will probably lose money on the time wasted after they flip what ever they get out of my house. I also find it interesting that he didn't sacrifice one of his safes to show that they couldn't get into his. Or maybe he did and they got into his too.
This video is informative and I have come up with some ideas about improving the security of even a marginal safe. As someone below pointed out bolt the safe to the floor. In addition if the safe is recessed between two walls made of steel or concrete and set back at least 1 foot they would not be able to gain leverage with a pry bar. A safe is only part of my security system. I have dead bolts and dead man bars across the doors. In addition there is an alarm and I have infrared cameras installed through out. Any good security system is comprised of several pieces that work together. There is also a painted outline on the floor of the last guy who tried breaking in.
Thiefs comes when you are not there.they watch your daily habits and when you are not home so they know exactly how luch time they have if they are proffesionals if not they'll just come when you are not there and steal all they think is valuable and can get their hands on in the least ammount of time doing the least ammount of noise possible
@@iamtheoffenderofall Have two safes, one in the open with a bunch of junk inside. Maybe a couple hundred dollars, and have a good one hidden somewhere else.
So how would these “masterminds” be able to get the same torque and leverage that they just demonstrated when the safe has been leg screwed to the concrete 2-3inches as by manufacture recommendation?? This is a bullshit demonstration.
@@robertboyd3863 Yeah I guess If they were storing gold bars and the Crown Jewels they would take the time and risk of potentially damaging the contents with a grinder. You could also use a cutting torch too! No safe is unbreakable, but the average contents wouldn’t be worth the time and effort for a low life crook to take those measures.
@@jmr6241 What a goofy remark , it would only take a couple minutes to grind around the lock and reach in , it is only 12 or 14 gauge steel , the inside fire shield would prevent the sparks from doing any harm, easy to see you have no idea how these safes are built , stop at Harbor Freight and pick up a cheap grinder , and a couple minutes has the safe open , a lot easier than the clown show this guy just posted
Don't have your safe in the middle of a giant empty room where it can be pushed over and pryed with a 6' long pry bar. If that safe was say bolted in the corner of a closet those tools wouldn't work, but I get the point.
I was afraid to watch this having just purchased a $500 gun safe. Feel much better knowing my safe is bolted down. I don't think thieves will be coming in with those pry bars unless they know you have a safe and are specifically targeting it.
No fucking shit right ! Mine is bolted into concrete with 3/4” steel plate insert in bottom of safe. If they want they will get it but not like they did in this video
Spot on, especially when most thieves are 'opportunists' just looking for a quick 'smash and grab'. Besides, most of the potential thieves in my neighborhood have pretty short 'attention spans' anyway!
Empty safe in the middle of a wearhouse.... this is not realistic to life. Why not have your two guys attempt using a crow bar.and pry bar in a location where a safe would normally be? In a room corner and bolted to the floor? After all this is all based on angle and leverage. Real life placement and correct installation changes this whole outcome. Now iam not saying cheap safes are just as good because that's a lie. But so is the way your test was conducted.
Absolutely right-on. A safe should never be regarded as impenetrable. All it is doing is frustrating an attack and buying time for actions to potentially catch thieves at work should they persist. Furthermore, location is absolutely critical as an integral part of the security strategy, and the safe should be cited so that the side with the throw-bolts is hard against a solid corner wall, with the back preferably secured to an outside wall. Anchor bolts should be avoided in preference to wall studs, deeply embedded to the wall and chemically affixed with vinyl-ester in solid brick or block - not the modern 'Swiss Cheese'. If you're unfamiliar with preparation and use, get an expert in to avoid weak bonds and failure under attack. If an option, an upstairs location is far more secure that downstairs. If not in a locked room or closet, s simple curtain concealing the safe will help avoid advertising the location to strangers passing through your home. I've installed multiple gun safes and ammunition cabinets this way, as required and approved by UK police. Lastly, I prefer to use police-approved safes with double-bitted mechanical locks, and separate key safes with motorised bolts. Far too many large digital safes around where the unlock code activates a light solenoid to permit a throw-bolt handle to be operated. Many such safes can be opened with a strong neodymium magnet applied to the door to magnetically deactivate the handle-locking mechanism! If you're putting good money into home security, you should ensure that the security is also 'Good'. Do your homework and keep secure.
Installing your safe up against a wall (opposite of the hinges) makes it impossible for someone to create the leverage they would need to force the door open. The moment they got the pry bars in, they'd be hitting the wall with the other end. Oh, and bolt down your safe :)
I have a safe that I thought was safe but after seeing how safe is your safe I no longer think my safe is safe therefore I am going to get myself a safe that will be safe and hopefully safer than the safe that was not safe - stay safe Safe
What was the door made off? Twisted like ply. Sorry but im not having this vid. Never in my life have i seen a safe door with a gap big enough to get a crowbar in that quick
Can we see the same demo with the safe bolted to a concrete floor and weight bearing wall studs in a room that gives access only from the front of the safe
Still depends on how much the material the safe is made with bends. If it's the same as in the video, you can bolt it to the floor. The only difference is that you have to do it standing up. No problemo. Make sure the material is strong enough to withstand. Make the room small, so there is no space to do this. Think beyond the safe.
Not really. If it was bolted down and the operating side of the door was near a corner wall, they wouldn’t be able to pry at all. They would have to use grinders with cutoff wheels instead.
It's not that far fetched... I can't count how many rock bars have been stolen out of the bed of our work trucks. Why would anyone steal one of those but not the $100 shovel right next it? I'll tell you why, it's a tool they can use to break $h*t with. I don't know where you do your investigating... but here in the Midwest, if they have the time, they'll take all the copper out of your house along with everything else. I worked with a company doing demolition on a local hospital... thieves took all the copper in the entire building over a holiday weekend. Some pretty ballsy meth heads went out and stole a giant transformer from an OPERATIONAL power substation during a blizzard in the city I live in 2 years ago. Some pranksters stole a pair of 2,500 pound bronze statues in the middle of town, with stolen construction equipment. Unfortunately, in the process of returning them, not only were they busted... but they broke one of the statues. They were high school students.
@@TheBeardedWonder23 You see a guy walking around with a shovel in the middle of the night, "my girlfriend's dog died and we were burying it" might work. A guy walking around with a tanker's bar over his should isn't going to say "the pickle jar wouldn't open."
100%! As a professional locksmith, I have been there and seen the aftermath of quality safes and Box store safes after a break in. Opening a cheap safe can sometimes be done with the placement of a magnet in the right spot.
@@anthonymartinez4780 I do know what it does, it will make the safe sturdy and firm in place so that if someone with a 6ft prey tool can have no issues breaking the door! Having the safe anchored to the ground or flipped on its back makes no big difference when you have the right tool.
@@abdullahalrasheed394 First....NO safe is 100% safe. Its a deterrent. The stronger the deterrent, the longer it takes to get in. Two....You think people place safes in the middle of rooms? No...If they are reasonably smart, they place them in closets or small enclosed spaces. Couple this with anchoring, unless the thieves are prepared to take out a wall for a prying attack, this method will be extremely difficult to do. Three... I would give ALL the contents of my safe which includes $10K in cash if you can get the door open in 1 minute and 40 seconds like in the video with your only tools of a crow bar and your 6 foot pry tool. My safe sits in a closet within a closet. A wall built to conceal my safe within a closet. 36" is all the space you have in there. And yes son.....its bolted to the concrete foundation. Wanna put your money where your mouth is now?
That would make it easier. The reason for tipping it over is because if they pushed from the front on that floor it would simply move back. Bolt it and it can't move. It would be toast. I wouldn't do it that way anyhow. If it's the type of safe I think it is all you need is a magnet and about 3 seconds. Some of these cheap safes have very significant fatal flaws.
@@robertthomas5906 If I had that safe it would be bolted to the concrete and the side that opens would be right next to a wall. So if the thieves wanted to use a pry bar they'd have to tear out the wall first.
@kykingz78 You don't have to drill through your safe. They have holes for the specific purpose of attaching them to concrete floors. Buying a good safe doesn't do much good if thieves can just carry it out to pry open somewhere else.
I guess I can't leave my safe unsecured in the middle of my empty garage anymore... Come on man. Most thieves are going to have to work in close quarters on mounted safes. Let's see them double up on 6' pry bars in a closet.
And what if the safe was bolted to the floor in a closet, or inset in a wall where you don't have room to use a large pry bar? Still think someone could wedge it open in a minute or two?
Yeah and while there at it if a guy is going to walking around with a big ass 5ft pry bar then the guy breaking into there safe should have a plasma cutter in a duffel bag
Umm from the shots inside his store with him talking i see AMSEC and Graffunder. Use RUclips to look up graffunder. Yea you're not prying one open . Learn something. Cheap safes from box stores are trash
2:30 Honey do you hear something 2:44 Is that the cat? Probably the cat 2:59 My goodness the cat is riled up tonight 3:25 'MITTENS!! Stop.. the NOISE...' 3:41 I'll deal with my cat tomorrow...
Same here I dont think this was a good demonstration if a safe is installed properly ithey would not be able to tip it over and use there body weight as leverage properly mount the safe to the ground
Truly a mystery. Somehow I actually watched this 6 years ago and thought it was stupid then. I guess I wasn’t logged into my account so it’s not in my history? 6 years later it’s back... not enough videos on RUclips I guess...
Same here. I just got mine to keep the kids safe. If someone's already busted in my house and gotten all the way to my safe they probably had enough time to do whatever they wanted to.
In a home if you have a safe that can stop someone from just walking away with your guns and valuables is better than nothing. My safe is simular to the one in the video but i was ready for this prior to installation which means it quad bolted to the floor and wall, secondly myself and my dad had 10mm lips welded to doors to prevent this type of pry bar attack as our armour guy informed us about. Nothing is 100% but smart and simple low cost upgrades to your safe are a big deal and won't break the bank.
Wow, after watching this I'm going to have to move my safe from the middle of the room and bolt it down. I just thought that the middle of the room, not bolted down was the most secure. Silly me.
You've obviously never done any demo work: between a goose neck, a 5' bar, and a come-along, I can put your 1000lb safe anywhere in the room I want in about 30 seconds. Lets say you BOLT DOWN that safe in a cubby where I can't get a good purchase, I'm just going to come in through the ensuite: knock out the wall (30-40 seconds, hook up the come-along and pull the bolts out of the floor, then work on it in the bathroom instead.
Curious to see how a cheap safe installed in a smart manner will hold up compared to a good safe. Example: my safe is in the back of a narrow closet bolted through the floor to a metal plate in the basement. I've checked and if you start to unscrew the bolts from there basement they just spin inside the safe. Only way that they can be done from the outside is by prying up on the safe to keep steady pressure and it'll still be difficult at best... As a secondary measure it's lag bolted through the back to studs in my wall. A chainsaw could cut out the wall from the back side loosening that. But if they are getting chainsaws out and while toolboxes and working on separate floors coordinating their efforts... Then they are likely going to run off with my $800 worth of valuables no matter what I put them in.
Pray tell. How are the thieves going to push your safe over when it’s against a wall and bolted to floor. Only an idiot would go to the expense of buying a safe only to leave it free standing in the middle of the room.
Not realy to argue with you but let's just say that in some countries you must have a safe for certain "sports equipment". Combine this with the fact that you live in a rental appartment and can't bolt the safe to the wall or floor.
Placed in a narrow room space, bolted to the floor, and blocked with wood at top so it cannot be easily pulled-over would slow down most thieves for quite a while. Even so, are you actually going to protect $5K in stuff in a 10-15K safe?
@@Pw6872 lol just 1 of my rifles is worth 5k, another is worth 3.5k and a pistol at 2k. and another pistol at 1.5k. Hell I have video games worth more than some peoples cars.
I guess the moral of the story is there really is no longterm (passive) defense against dishonest people. Given enough time, energy, resources, and motivation, anything can be broken.
You can use this safe. First bolt it to the floor, second put it in a corner so they can't pry it open. Put a sticker on it that you store black powder in it so that if they cut the safe they make a bomb.
This has been up for over seven years without one shout-out to the Lock Picking Lawyer? Granted many professional lock pickers and most amateurs could not do what he does. :-)
If I can't keep my possessions, you will not get them either. That's why I leave a 32 ounce black powder can uncapped in my safe. Enjoy the suprise fireworks show! Hope you brought eye protection!
well, they are professionals, since they do this stunt and get paid for it, as a profession... but not thieves, since they didn't steal anything. It was empty! Or maybe they just stole my time by making me watch this shit.
I'd be willing to bet they are employees of this guy! They know all the weak points and have had practice doing this. I'd like to see a youtuber do a UNBIASED video doing this with regular guys! We all know the people that do this crap are tweakers that dont know shit! ITS NOT LIKE THE MOVIE'S
Where does the extra room come from when you tip the safe over on it's back? Do they drag it out of a closet and then tip it over between the bed and the dresser?
Wait.... it took these FOOLS less than 2 minutes to open that safe... heck, it wasn't bolted down, just use a dolly and cart it out of the house, then open it at their leisure. This guy thinks his customers are idiots... opening a safe that is not bolted down and that you have all the room you want to work around is simply a stunt. -- Put the safe in a small closet that has wooden studs in the walls. Then, bolt the safe down to the concrete with anchor bolts. Put a alarm trigger on the door of the closet that alarms the police as soon as they open the closet. .... let's see how long it takes them to open the safe then.
with a 5ft bar I can pull the bolts out of the studs in about 10 seconds. That's a trivial problem you've added. From there I can slide it where ever I need to to work on it. Add another minute and you'll be right back at the same place.
@@williammcgill1562 The crack heads want untraceable merch they can pawn, they aren't after your guns. In Canada at least we've had a number of pro jobs gunning for semiautos: they follow people home from the range on the weekend and then hit the place Monday morning when the owner's at work: they hit the dogs over the head with a hammer and then have all morning to work the safe open at their leisure.
This video is kind of a joke. People put thier safe in a closet or against a wall and bolt it there. At that point there isn't any room for a 5 foot prybar. There is no room for leverage in most cases. The company that made this hopefully lost money.
Actually, I think they proved that the safe they broke into was a really good safe. They had a hard time getting into in, while it laid on the floor, using a 5 foot rock bar, and having to use all their weight an strengthen to get that door to move a little at a time.
@@coltwinchester6124 you didn't know the name of the bar used in the video. It is a lining bar used for railroad track maintenance for lifting rail, lifting ties, lining the track (hence the name), etc.... Nope, I didn't do "any work in my life" the nine years I spent doing manual track maintenance for Union Pacific Railroad. And I'm not actually recovering from back surgery at this moment due to working my ass off at that job. Still feel better about yourself by attempting to insult other people?
I've been a professional locksmith for 20+ years and i know that most "safes" (even the expensive," high quality" are thin gauge metal with drywall and carpet, which contains high amounts of formaldehyde (a very corrosive and toxic chemical that will rust you guns from the inside out). I use a lockbox like secureit brand because real safes are way too expensive and aren't safe anyway.
Palmed a lot of cards there: 1) Two men with heavy equipment, unlikely in most home burgleries. 2) They were able to tip the safe over and apply their whole wieght to leverage against it. Most safes are bolted to the floor joyces or to concrete slabs. 3) Safes also tend to be in closets or corners which makes using long levers like those problematic. I don't see you're average burgler being able to do this in most real world senarios.
I've seen demos where the "thieves" didn't bother with the door, they just cut through the sidewall or back with a grinder, because all the hype goes into the door, while the sides are much lower gauge steel.
One, my "cheap" safe is hidden. Never put your safe in an office or especially the master bedroom. That's the first place they will look. The way mine is placed it would be very difficult to pry on the door since that side is boxed in and only one side is exposed. You would have to remove a wall and cabinets on the wall to get to it to pry. It's bolted to the slab so no one is moving it or pushing it over. Normal burglars are smash and grab, they don't have tools and are fairly stupid. Even if they found my safe the alarm has been going off for awhile at this point and their time is very limited. Any safe can be cut into with the proper tools no matter the cost. This demonstration leaves a lot out of the equation and there are many variables not discussed. Yes, if I left my safe not bolted down in the middle of a room and two guys with a giant pry bar attacked it, they could get in just as easily, so your 2:30 in and out becomes more like 30 minutes or more in my scenario. The police have shown up long before that.
I agree that the safe that are sold at Cabela’s bass pro etc. aren’t top level safes. But if you bolted to the floor and put it in a corner it’s gonna be hard to get the leverage to pop it open. definitely doable, but they’re going to need a lot more time & effort.
Lol, real thieves would bring a $10 disc grinder from Harbor Freight and peel open your "quality safe " in 10-20 min. These bums don't work that hard anymore.
That is why a good safe is not only strong from the front, but the sides as well. Ideally you have it set into where only the front is accessible, but that is alot of work. If not, have the safe with strong multiple layers of hardened steel. Have some stainless in there for heat attacks, have a nylon fiber material in there to bind up any cutting attacks. But that is going to be costing alot of money, and if you were in the market for that kind of safe, I am sure you have enough to cover it and it would be well worth the investment for whatever is inside.
I'll say it. No safes are really safe. I've worked with the most top of the line safes/vaults. And even those were rated to 1 hour (against a well prepared adversary. Eg. Came prepared with explosives and all the correct tools and a small army to defend them as they got in.) 1 hour. And these things cost millions each. Honest opinion. Accept your fate. We put 50 dollar locks on a door within 10 feet of a window placed in a wood house. Security is an illusion.
@Asd Asdg I'm not sure how to reply to this. I'm just pointing out that buying a safe isn't pointless but it's about a half step up from pointless. Very observant of you Holmes.
This is why I got a custom made Sturdy safe. USA made in the nearest city to me, locally owned and operated, and the owner Terry took a good hour or 2 out of his day to show me the whole operation. He answered all my prying questions all the other safe companies either refused to answer, didnt know how to answer, or lied about. They got $5,500 from me because their business and their product are honest, reliable, and to the point. They dont offer piano gloss black finishes but they do offer more steel per dollar than anyone else and their design is stout. You can opt for whatever upgrades you feel need to be done and they'll work with you to create an interior as well as exterior that will suit your needs. I have a custom door layout on mine as well as a custom finish on the outside. As a plus for someone like me who is still wandering in life (move somewhat often) my safe only weighs a ton versus some of the concrete-filled options I was looking at that come in around 4-7.5 tons... so it is easier to move if/when i need to do so
Concealment beats a big steel box with a fancy lock any day...Create a hidden storage place instead & if you really want a safe put it somewhere for the crooks to work on it but leave nothing but a "fuck you" note inside the thing...
He's got a point, it depends what you're trying to protect. Top tip for you, buy a cheap safe & make it easy to find but leave it empty, have your hardcore good quality safe somewhere much 'safe'r 😁
personally i keep my shit i cant afford to replace in a safe deposit box if they wanna mount a mission worthy of a Payday 2 DLC fuckin take it you filthy animal.
Learnings from the video: 1) Bolt the safe to the floor. 2) Position safe with minimal clearance to the left (non-hinged side) of the safe. 3) Position the safe so it can't (easily) be laid on its back.
Quality safes are always nice to own, but most of them are incredibly impractical for home owners, unless you keep tens of thousands of dollars worth of guns, cash, or gold inside. A simple safe made out of a few inches of any mates bolted to the ground will stop 99.99% of burglars in their tracks. Sure given enough time a burglar could break into any safe even the compound of for Knox but, time is one thing burglars do not have unless t house is isolated and miles from civilization. Also almost nobody would be having a massive safe just chilling in the middle of a large open room. Anyone who owns a safe that weighs a ton has that up against a wall.
3 things: 1) they couldn't have done this as easily if the safe was properly bolted down 2) I have a safe for my firearms, they keep kids out, not thieves. Cheap is fine. 3) Insure what you're afraid to lose, don't trust a safe.
Makes a good point! If safe is bolted to the floor and the leverage on the sides meaning no room to lever the door open is minimal, then how ez would it be then!?
![[756] Sentry Safe Cut in Half FAST!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2guvwQvElA8/mqdefault.jpg)
Even a bad safe slows them down. Meanwhile the alarm is going off and my roomba with a claymore is on its way.
Lmaooo
o man that’s to funny
thank you i’m dyin
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*CLAYMORE BOOMBA RELEASED*
PAN MAN “Welcome to the Jungle” starts playing
I gotta check Costco for that!!! 😆😆😆
I bought a "cheap" safe at Tractor Supply. It was in the garage that had a fire. I lost two cars and all my tools. But the contents of the safe were not harmed. It was fire-rated at 1,200 degrees for 45 minutes with a dual-stage triple fin door seal. And it came with a lifetime warranty. I sent the company (Cannon) pictures and the fire department's report and received a new safe.
Yup tractor supply have good safe
take the cover off the back side of the door. be prepared to hsit your pants.
@@gussuk11 - after I break into it I'll remove the back cover of the door rather than take the loot?
How long did it take for the new safe to come from China?
I was reading up on safes on a gun forum and someone had an interesting fire story... Safe was in the garage which the fire hadn't reached. Fire Dept. went in with some kind of saw and cut a hole in the safe then pumped it full of water. They told him they didn't want the ammo cooking off inside and "firing" rounds at them.
Do the test again, this time with it bolted to the floor, in the corner of a room. Like everybody has.
@Robert Sipes Sledgehammer can bent the door in to get leverage.
I do security assessments professionally for a living. 90 percent of people don't bolt safes down. Second, it's still a POS safe.
Exactly
@@M9A1MAN whats ur company name?
Yes steady it for them so it’s easier to open
If you can push over a safe that easily, it's not a safe, it's a filing cabinet.
More like a flying cabinet!
So true
They problebly won’t tip it over. They just did it so it’s easy
@Olav Viking Huh? Laying it on it's back is the only reason they were able to open it. It's how they got their leverage...
If it was standing up, how do you think they are going to apply force??? It'd be nearly impossible.
You can push over a cheap safe, because they dont have they same weight or the cement plate in the bottom
In my safe, I just keep a mirror so the thieves can reflect upon finding themselves
Or even better a live recording watching them getting into the safe that starys over when they get it open.
Kung fu panda
a texas judge said murderer's should have pictures of they're victim's in they're cells
@@leonardkellum6984 Why do I feel like some of them would enjoy that
LOL !!!
I avoid the need for a safe by not being able to afford valuables.
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That's the socialist way.
Lol makes sense.
my sides have left the building
@@paulav7961 that's a damn lie and you know it. You have no idea what socialism is.
I put my safe in a bigger safe, that way I know my safe's safe.
no shit my buddy really did do that, cost him 8k, all for his MJ rookie card collection
You're an asshat...I think you have so safe and no valuables...too comical.
Better to be safer than safe.
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Lmfao....the internet.....
Make your advertisement more creditable by showing them trying to break into one of the safes you're hawking.
Take a look at their site. Their safes are of almost identical construction as others where it’s takes very little time with an angle grinder to cut it open. Not impressed. Especially when they can’t advertise their price either.
I hide my safe in plain sight, behind a 90 lb dog and a 12 gauge shotgun 🙂
Not just that, that safe they got into wasn't bolted to the ground, good luck prying that safe open while standing and up against the wall.
@@hwypilot1 Ah dogs....the early detection system. Get the biggest meanest looking mush pup to intimidate and they will never see you while you blow them away.
@@xjinit If its like mine....its buried in a closet right up against a wall with just enough room to open the safe door. Hard to get a crowbar in there let alone a huge ass prybar.
You just demonstrated why it is important to bolt your safe to the floor and or wall. You also convinced me that having done so my cheap safe is good enough.
Agreed, This demonstration showed how easily it is to enter the safe provided, your are a two man team with a 6 ft pry bar in an area where you have ample room in order to knock safe over as well as stand beside said safe to work. I highly doubt this to be as easily done provided the safe is bolted to the floor in a limited space environment where leverage is not able to be applied.
Bolt it to the floor and the wall. That's how I did it. 3/8 Concrete anchors to the wall and floor in a corner. Not an easy task to get into it. Then for good measure all small valuables are inside small fire safes as well inside of the main rifle type safe.
Hate to burst your bubble. Lithium Battery powered angle grinder and I’m in that safe faster then those two hoods got into this one. I will cut the fuck out of your shitty little safe. Just kidding. But the angle grinder thing is serious.
@@ecomancer007 you forgot to mention the angry canine that has woken from his slumber from intruders entering his home
@@jameshawk2470 I kinda doubt that bud, you will spend more time swapping out grinding wheels, than those two did with a pry-bar
I’d say better than this guy can form a sentence. “How Safe is you safe”
I used to run a Locksmith shop for years. There are basically two types of safes - fire safes and Burglary safes and while there are a few manufacturers that offer a combination of both such as Amsec they are Considerably more expensive. What he is showing here is what most all the “Big Box” stores sell such as Sentry or Liberty safes which is an inexpensive fire safe. They are designed specifically to keep the contents inside safe from a fire and although cheap they will in fact do what they are designed to do. - keep in mind they are not designed to keep burglars out so a persistent thief with the right tools could gain entry. There are higher end fire safes out there if you want them but you will not find them in the “big box” stores unless you special order them.
Burglar safes are designed with hard plates and resist drilling and forced entry. Most burglar safes even have Copper plates that disperse heat when attacked by a torch where fire safes have a fire resistant type of cement to insulate the contents.
I’ve seen large pinch bars break the anchors of safes bolted down and even heavy ones can be tipped over but that does absolutely nothing to help gain entry. Good burglar safes have what they call “relockers” that engage if the dial or edges are attacked. So in other words if all you want to do is keep your guns out of reach from your kids or protect important documents from fire the cheap “big box” stores will do just fine. If your truly trying to protect your valuables from a theft then spend the extra money and get a burglar rated safe or better yet a combo fire / burglar safe if you can afford it. The best tip I can give you to save money is a floor safe. 99% of them are burglar safes with the safe guards of relockers if attacked from above but by putting them in the ground it makes them VERY resistant to fire damage. Bottom line is get the safe that fits your needs wether it be a higher end safe or a less expensive fire safe but don’t let this clown use scare tactics make you spend more money than you need to. Hope this helps anyone that is deciding on what type of safe is best for them.
HOLY CRAP! Someone who nailed it in the comments section! Good job!
taiken5968
Mesa also offers a fire / burglary combo safe in their MBF series but they are going to be a little more expensive than their safes that just offers fire protection. If losing the contents to a fire is your main concern go with their fire safe and save yourself some money.
If the fire / combo safe is within your budget you will be purchasing a much better quality safe than the Sentry and Liberty safes you typically see in the big box stores.
Nothing wrong with a Mesa safe at all but if the combo safe is within your reach you will gain all security features that go along with a burglar safe. Good Luck !
Very well said! Especially the part about scare tactics. Did you notice the foreboding, ominous music they played in the background? Really?
And who keeps their safe in the middle of a room? And of course unbolted, and with more than ample room on both sides, to pry away at it. Geez...
He should be a preacher for some kind of religion because he's a great bullshitter
Anything that says sentry can be opened in 10 seconds or less with a pocket knife. Hell, the cashboxes take longer than the "safes"
I'd rather watch a video on how the thieves were shot by the homeowner trying to break into his safe.
I'd be so pissed off I wouldn't hesitate to pt 30 rounds of 9mm into their heads.
Absolutely
@@azmike1 Oh hell, sorry. I didn't realise this channel was only for Americans!
The steel is for stopping kids. The lead is for stopping crooks.
Yea this and other safe demonstrations are clearly intended for if someone someone home....
My safe is basically a decoy, everything I really value is somewhere else.
Shout out to this giga Chad who bought a safe just to keep it empty and have all his stuff somewhere else 😂
All his firearms are in Harbor Fright pelican case clones; buried in the yard.
The first rule of owning a safe, you do not tell anyone you own a safe.
Don't even tell your wife.
2nd rule of owning a safe:
BOLT THAT SHIT TO THE FLOOR!!!!!!
True
What's a wife?
@@ioccatonyz1 might get a little hard to hide a big safe from my wife :)
I wanna see the video of them breaking into the safe they're trying to sell us.
Right!
James Nosactivated the, “tape” didn’t lead to anything... tried it several times and all I accomplished was to skip ahead several times.
No shit!! Lol
I was just getting ready to say the same thing side by side comparison.....vigilance and commen sense protects you and yours along with an edged weapon or firearm. My attitude come to my house and try that shit I got something for you criminals😏
Exactly, lets have a fair comparison
I pre-load Rosie O'Donnell into my safe and this had worked 100% of the time for proper deterrent.
This is perhaps the best comment on this video! Well done.
"What on earth was that huge slam?!? Did someone just knock over the safe we keep in the middle of our living room?!?"
"no honey your being paranoid. Go back to sleep"
Lol
No one is dumb enough to do this when you're home.
Hahahahahaha I'm dying here. Now that was funny!!!
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BAHAHAHA
When a salesman or "salesperson" uses the phrase " You are making an investment ." They are getting ready to try to screw you over .
You ain’t lying!! Whenever you hear that phrase.... RUN for the door!
A proverb to carry with me the rest of days. Thanks!
Likewise 'xyz professional'. There's no such thing as a 'safe', 'toilet' or 'trash' professional. They're just people trying to flog a product, by hijacking the term 'professional (which is an unprotected term i.e. anyone can call themselves a 'professional'). Locks are hardly like brain surgery. The installers are either good locksmiths or they're not, without all 'the sky is falling in' alarmism that no one is really interested in anyway.
@@NinoNiemanThe1st I can argue that... if this man sold you one of the Graffunder safes that were in the video it would have definitely been an investment and those guys with the pry bars would have had grey hair before they pried their way into it. It makes me laugh with some people, I’m not going to secure 100k in guns and 20k in the little ladies jewelry along with my important papers in a safe that cost 1500 dollars.
@@jj3449 Fair enough, but you can argue it's a cost/probability issue. Some people would think a $1,500 safe for stuff they want to protect is fine (as long as they don't advertise what they own widely - thereby advertising their vulnerability). For most robbers, looking for basically non-fungible gear, it would suffice. You'd be lucky to get 20% of the 'worth' of 'little ladies jewelry' (wtf that is) by anyone stealing it. You have to factor that in when you buy a safe - it's a cost/benefit trade-off. Spending more than $1,500 to secure $120K of property is only a good investment statistically if you live in a crime-ridden zone, or a 3rd world country.
I love how they didn't just demonstrate, they played roles. One even had his hoodie up. I hope he won the safe demonstration Oscar for best thief.
Everyone knows a guy wearing black hoodie is plotting something.
Like buying crack. Or breaking into a vault, to buy crack. I believe Baker plucked these guys straight out the trailer, they aint messing around. The L1 2min Hoodieproof standard
Lmao. You have to respect the production value
Because everyone keeps their safe in the middle of an open room with enough space to use a 5-foot pry bar, right?
Don't forget to NOT bolt it down into the foundation of course while you're at it.
JOE SMITH I was looking for this in the comments because I knew I couldn’t be the only one. Second comment on the video lol.
You're right. There are things to make those cheaper safes more secure. But that thinner metal means you just need a battery powered sawzall to cut right through it in about the same time. They're definitely better than nothing though.
@Duke Of Prunes hopefully you have it bolted to the floor too. Yes that is a lot of weight. But there are people who will drag it if they think it's worth it and have enough time. I used to work for Cabelas and I've seen it before. The customer thought it was too heavy. The deep scratches in his floor where they dragged it showed otherwise.
I was thinking about that myself, my safe came with cables and such and instructions to bolt the safe to the floor and to a stud in the wall, and mine is a fairly cheap safe, I know that and I understood it when I bought it, but I bought it with the understanding that it may frustrate them long enough that they give up before they get in, after all like someone else said alarms are going to be going off, unless they by passed that too, and if they are that advanced why in the hell are they in my house? they will probably lose money on the time wasted after they flip what ever they get out of my house.
I also find it interesting that he didn't sacrifice one of his safes to show that they couldn't get into his. Or maybe he did and they got into his too.
"For your valuables and your family"! Who keeps their family members in a safe?
family members? For added protection, we hid our parents 6' down and skipped the lock.
Joesef Fritzl
''honey... I love you, but if you don't shut up, you'll be sleeping in the safe tonight.''
Magicians! Particularly escape artists.
I've kept them in a freezer for obvious reasons but never considered a gun safe.
This video is informative and I have come up with some ideas about improving the security of even a marginal safe. As someone below pointed out bolt the safe to the floor. In addition if the safe is recessed between two walls made of steel or concrete and set back at least 1 foot they would not be able to gain leverage with a pry bar. A safe is only part of my security system. I have dead bolts and dead man bars across the doors. In addition there is an alarm and I have infrared cameras installed through out. Any good security system is comprised of several pieces that work together. There is also a painted outline on the floor of the last guy who tried breaking in.
Hard to break into a safe when someone is throwing 12ga slugs at you.
My thoughts exactly 😂
It's highly unlikely a thief will break into your house while you are home. not on purpose anyway.
Came to say this exactly.
Thiefs comes when you are not there.they watch your daily habits and when you are not home so they know exactly how luch time they have if they are proffesionals if not they'll just come when you are not there and steal all they think is valuable and can get their hands on in the least ammount of time doing the least ammount of noise possible
@@karvast5726 sounds as though you have put alot of thought into being a thief...hmmm.
Joke is on the person who takes the time to break in my safe, I don’t have shit
I thought about buying one so I could put some bricks in it. 🤣
So legit question....why would you spend money on a safe then?
@@iamtheoffenderofall diversions
@@iamtheoffenderofall Have two safes, one in the open with a bunch of junk inside. Maybe a couple hundred dollars, and have a good one hidden somewhere else.
Is the US Treasury located at your house?
If you stock the fridge adequately it will slow them down !
So how would these “masterminds” be able to get the same torque and leverage that they just demonstrated when the safe has been leg screwed to the concrete 2-3inches as by manufacture recommendation?? This is a bullshit demonstration.
This is so stupid, any crook in their right mind would simply use a portable grinder to cut through the metal won't matter how it is fastened down
@@robertboyd3863
Yeah I guess If they were storing gold bars and the Crown Jewels they would take the time and risk of potentially damaging the contents with a grinder. You could also use a cutting torch too! No safe is unbreakable, but the average contents wouldn’t be worth the time and effort for a low life crook to take those measures.
@@jmr6241 What a goofy remark , it would only take a couple minutes to grind around the lock and reach in , it is only 12 or 14 gauge steel , the inside fire shield would prevent the sparks from doing any harm, easy to see you have no idea how these safes are built , stop at Harbor Freight and pick up a cheap grinder , and a couple minutes has the safe open , a lot easier than the clown show this guy just posted
You’re all idiots
I can just watch lockpockinglawyer and I can crack this in seconds
Anyone with 3 seconds of welding experience can cut your whole safe in half in under 3 minutes with a $150.00 cordless grinder...
Don't have your safe in the middle of a giant empty room where it can be pushed over and pryed with a 6' long pry bar. If that safe was say bolted in the corner of a closet those tools wouldn't work, but I get the point.
Drill sergeant once told me a lock is only good at keeping an honest man honest. A theif will just break the lock.
Nice words 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I was afraid to watch this having just purchased a $500 gun safe. Feel much better knowing my safe is bolted down. I don't think thieves will be coming in with those pry bars unless they know you have a safe and are specifically targeting it.
The horror film music and the overall sense of doom... I'm so frightened.
And slightly aroused
Whoops. I just wet my pants.
Help saFe me
Don’t feel doomed.. feel ashamed for not owning a $4000 safe to hold a couple items
If I bought a high end safe it would be the most expensive thing I owned.
I write the combination on the front door of the safe so thieves won’t destroy it.
my safe and a few others i have seen the warranty on provides replacement coverage for the safe but not what was in it.
Not sure if you're trying to be funny, but that is hilarious!
😭😭😭 this comment killed me
The keypad combination is 911. The keypad is also wired to an old cellphone. 😂
This attack is stopped by bolting it to the floor in a closest. Positioned in such a way to deny pry bars room.
No fucking shit right ! Mine is bolted into concrete with 3/4” steel plate insert in bottom of safe. If they want they will get it but not like they did in this video
Unless you have a post tension slab. Don't bolt it to the floor you'll be really sorry, if you cut a cable.
@@madmedic366 How do you bolt it into concrete? All I know how to do is anchor it into concrete.
@@johnnyvivic8730 it’s anchored into concrete
@@catfan5756 What cable? I'm confused. I'm not sure if I have a slab foundation or not.
I saw those thieves on the film Home Alone. That safe had a very floppy door…..LMAO
Most thieves don't waste their time with safes. They come in with duffel bags and go for what's easy and fast.
Spot on, especially when most thieves are 'opportunists' just looking for a quick 'smash and grab'. Besides, most of the potential thieves in my neighborhood have pretty short 'attention spans' anyway!
Put a grocery list and a $100 bill on the fridge, most would take it and run out the door.
@@brianmaloney45 lol
Empty safe in the middle of a wearhouse.... this is not realistic to life. Why not have your two guys attempt using a crow bar.and pry bar in a location where a safe would normally be? In a room corner and bolted to the floor? After all this is all based on angle and leverage. Real life placement and correct installation changes this whole outcome. Now iam not saying cheap safes are just as good because that's a lie. But so is the way your test was conducted.
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Absolutely right-on. A safe should never be regarded as impenetrable. All it is doing is frustrating an attack and buying time for actions to potentially catch thieves at work should they persist.
Furthermore, location is absolutely critical as an integral part of the security strategy, and the safe should be cited so that the side with the throw-bolts is hard against a solid corner wall, with the back preferably secured to an outside wall.
Anchor bolts should be avoided in preference to wall studs, deeply embedded to the wall and chemically affixed with vinyl-ester in solid brick or block - not the modern 'Swiss Cheese'. If you're unfamiliar with preparation and use, get an expert in to avoid weak bonds and failure under attack.
If an option, an upstairs location is far more secure that downstairs. If not in a locked room or closet, s simple curtain concealing the safe will help avoid advertising the location to strangers passing through your home.
I've installed multiple gun safes and ammunition cabinets this way, as required and approved by UK police.
Lastly, I prefer to use police-approved safes with double-bitted mechanical locks, and separate key safes with motorised bolts. Far too many large digital safes around where the unlock code activates a light solenoid to permit a throw-bolt handle to be operated. Many such safes can be opened with a strong neodymium magnet applied to the door to magnetically deactivate the handle-locking mechanism!
If you're putting good money into home security, you should ensure that the security is also 'Good'. Do your homework and keep secure.
You'd be surprised at how many are at best against a wall. Especially gun safes
until somebody smarter does break it open, anything can be broken in to....
@@lrlapua8035 -- dead link.
So if that safe was mounted to the wall and floor (using those holes visible in the video) how long would it take them?
Wearing his hood makes this way more authentic
What should he have worn to satisfy your high standards of authenticity?
@@gwarlow p
Don't forget about the spooky music
Hoodies are used in more crimes than firearms
If they were professionals they would have been wearing eye protection and gloves.
Installing your safe up against a wall (opposite of the hinges) makes it impossible for someone to create the leverage they would need to force the door open. The moment they got the pry bars in, they'd be hitting the wall with the other end. Oh, and bolt down your safe :)
how long did it take to open you high dollar safe ?
I have a safe that I thought was safe but after seeing how safe is your safe I no longer think my safe is safe therefore I am going to get myself a safe that will be safe and hopefully safer than the safe that was not safe - stay safe
Safe
Pip Pipster you really played it safe saying safes aren't safe!
@@mrabrasive51 safe to say
Thank you Kanye, very cool!
LOL
Pip Pipster lmao
The power is in the hoodie
What was the door made off? Twisted like ply. Sorry but im not having this vid. Never in my life have i seen a safe door with a gap big enough to get a crowbar in that quick
A shame this "test" safe wasn't bolted down to the ground and placed in a room with tight access.
That would be way more realistic.. these videos are nearly worthless because of this.
Yeah I was wondering about that.
mine safe has a small room built around it so this cant happen
I.e .... My torch ????
@@snowfall1771 A simply portable grinder will get you into any of them
Can we see the same demo with the safe bolted to a concrete floor and weight bearing wall studs in a room that gives access only from the front of the safe
Still depends on how much the material the safe is made with bends. If it's the same as in the video, you can bolt it to the floor. The only difference is that you have to do it standing up. No problemo. Make sure the material is strong enough to withstand. Make the room small, so there is no space to do this. Think beyond the safe.
Not really. If it was bolted down and the operating side of the door was near a corner wall, they wouldn’t be able to pry at all. They would have to use grinders with cutoff wheels instead.
the attack would be different but still easy and possible.
Yeah, with cordless grinders and cutoff wheels. Prying? No, I solved that problem.
Frank Van Den Dool what kind of room is good? Like in a closet?
I've investigated hundreds of burglaries and I have yet to see a burglar bring a Tanker's Bar on a job...
It's not that far fetched... I can't count how many rock bars have been stolen out of the bed of our work trucks. Why would anyone steal one of those but not the $100 shovel right next it? I'll tell you why, it's a tool they can use to break $h*t with. I don't know where you do your investigating... but here in the Midwest, if they have the time, they'll take all the copper out of your house along with everything else. I worked with a company doing demolition on a local hospital... thieves took all the copper in the entire building over a holiday weekend. Some pretty ballsy meth heads went out and stole a giant transformer from an OPERATIONAL power substation during a blizzard in the city I live in 2 years ago. Some pranksters stole a pair of 2,500 pound bronze statues in the middle of town, with stolen construction equipment. Unfortunately, in the process of returning them, not only were they busted... but they broke one of the statues. They were high school students.
@@TheBeardedWonder23 You see a guy walking around with a shovel in the middle of the night, "my girlfriend's dog died and we were burying it" might work.
A guy walking around with a tanker's bar over his should isn't going to say "the pickle jar wouldn't open."
@@TheBeardedWonder23 What's your point? Serve your valuables to them on a silver platter because they might break into your safe?
The lesson I got from this is to make sure I keep my crowbars in ANOTHER safe.
A good idea is to keep safe-breaking tools far away from the safes you're protecting.
100%! As a professional locksmith, I have been there and seen the aftermath of quality safes and Box store safes after a break in. Opening a cheap safe can sometimes be done with the placement of a magnet in the right spot.
With a long enough lever and a fulcrum on which to place it, I could break into Fort Knox?
I’d buy jewelry from Lowe’s if it got my wife off my back. Just saying.
You have a pretty looking wife.
Why would you go that route.
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And if you're good I might just buy you something while I'm there so you just shut your freaking trap
Even a good safe needs to be bolted down to the ground or back wall. Who puts a safe in the middle of a room where there’s space to push it over?
Ok, but do you think bolting it to the ground will prevent the bad guys from breaking it? It will just take them a little bit more time and effort.
@@abdullahalrasheed394 you dont know what anchoring down a safe does do you?
@@anthonymartinez4780 I do know what it does, it will make the safe sturdy and firm in place so that if someone with a 6ft prey tool can have no issues breaking the door!
Having the safe anchored to the ground or flipped on its back makes no big difference when you have the right tool.
@@abdullahalrasheed394 First....NO safe is 100% safe. Its a deterrent. The stronger the deterrent, the longer it takes to get in.
Two....You think people place safes in the middle of rooms? No...If they are reasonably smart, they place them in closets or small enclosed spaces. Couple this with anchoring, unless the thieves are prepared to take out a wall for a prying attack, this method will be extremely difficult to do.
Three... I would give ALL the contents of my safe which includes $10K in cash if you can get the door open in 1 minute and 40 seconds like in the video with your only tools of a crow bar and your 6 foot pry tool. My safe sits in a closet within a closet. A wall built to conceal my safe within a closet. 36" is all the space you have in there. And yes son.....its bolted to the concrete foundation. Wanna put your money where your mouth is now?
@@abdullahalrasheed394 It takes no longer to use a grinder and cut into one bolted down which is how any crook with a brain would do it
If u can get through 4 german shepards 5 people who can shoot very well u can try our 7 ton bank vault
Let's see it done if it's bolted down and agains a wall
id say the floor more like it unless you have thick strong metal walls instead of dry wall
10 points for your post. Agree completely
That would make it easier. The reason for tipping it over is because if they pushed from the front on that floor it would simply move back. Bolt it and it can't move. It would be toast. I wouldn't do it that way anyhow. If it's the type of safe I think it is all you need is a magnet and about 3 seconds. Some of these cheap safes have very significant fatal flaws.
@@robertthomas5906
If I had that safe it would be bolted to the concrete and the side that opens would be right next to a wall. So if the thieves wanted to use a pry bar they'd have to tear out the wall first.
@kykingz78
You don't have to drill through your safe. They have holes for the specific purpose of attaching them to concrete floors. Buying a good safe doesn't do much good if thieves can just carry it out to pry open somewhere else.
I guess I can't leave my safe unsecured in the middle of my empty garage anymore... Come on man. Most thieves are going to have to work in close quarters on mounted safes. Let's see them double up on 6' pry bars in a closet.
And what if the safe was bolted to the floor in a closet, or inset in a wall where you don't have room to use a large pry bar? Still think someone could wedge it open in a minute or two?
They should try to break in one of their own to compare.
Absolutely agree.
Yeah and while there at it if a guy is going to walking around with a big ass 5ft pry bar then the guy breaking into there safe should have a plasma cutter in a duffel bag
Oh I'm sure it would take forever 🙄🤣
Umm from the shots inside his store with him talking i see AMSEC and Graffunder. Use RUclips to look up graffunder. Yea you're not prying one open . Learn something. Cheap safes from box stores are trash
@@Firebird1968 just take a grinder to the side of it and it's all she wrote
They can have my safe if they can find it. I’ve lived here for 5 years and I haven’t found it yet.
I havnt found my penis after 5 yrs :(
2:30 Honey do you hear something
2:44 Is that the cat? Probably the cat
2:59 My goodness the cat is riled up tonight
3:25 'MITTENS!! Stop.. the NOISE...'
3:41 I'll deal with my cat tomorrow...
Still want to know why over 6 years later RUclips thought I wanted to watch this??
Same here I dont think this was a good demonstration if a safe is installed properly ithey would not be able to tip it over and use there body weight as leverage properly mount the safe to the ground
Truly a mystery. Somehow I actually watched this 6 years ago and thought it was stupid then. I guess I wasn’t logged into my account so it’s not in my history? 6 years later it’s back... not enough videos on RUclips I guess...
You took time to leave a comment though.
I know. I have one of the inexpensive saves, but it’s what I can afford. So....I think it’s better than nothing at all.
Same here. I just got mine to keep the kids safe. If someone's already busted in my house and gotten all the way to my safe they probably had enough time to do whatever they wanted to.
It is better than nothing. Dont be upsold by a salesman
@@inw_sentinel Yep
Actually having nothing at all is Better than buying a cheap one
@@chetmanley5983 I am not sure what logic you are using. Maybe you could articulate your reasoning?
Lockpicking lawyer could pick that safe in 14 seconds.
and safe would be unharmed
it definitely wouldn’t be a fluke
In a home if you have a safe that can stop someone from just walking away with your guns and valuables is better than nothing. My safe is simular to the one in the video but i was ready for this prior to installation which means it quad bolted to the floor and wall, secondly myself and my dad had 10mm lips welded to doors to prevent this type of pry bar attack as our armour guy informed us about.
Nothing is 100% but smart and simple low cost upgrades to your safe are a big deal and won't break the bank.
Wow, after watching this I'm going to have to move my safe from the middle of the room and bolt it down. I just thought that the middle of the room, not bolted down was the most secure.
Silly me.
Lol
Bolt it to the celing to make them work for it. You can also turn it around to face the wall for a little "razzle dazzle".
Me too!!
You've obviously never done any demo work: between a goose neck, a 5' bar, and a come-along, I can put your 1000lb safe anywhere in the room I want in about 30 seconds. Lets say you BOLT DOWN that safe in a cubby where I can't get a good purchase, I'm just going to come in through the ensuite: knock out the wall (30-40 seconds, hook up the come-along and pull the bolts out of the floor, then work on it in the bathroom instead.
holy shit. I laffed out loud on that one.
Curious to see how a cheap safe installed in a smart manner will hold up compared to a good safe.
Example: my safe is in the back of a narrow closet bolted through the floor to a metal plate in the basement. I've checked and if you start to unscrew the bolts from there basement they just spin inside the safe. Only way that they can be done from the outside is by prying up on the safe to keep steady pressure and it'll still be difficult at best... As a secondary measure it's lag bolted through the back to studs in my wall. A chainsaw could cut out the wall from the back side loosening that. But if they are getting chainsaws out and while toolboxes and working on separate floors coordinating their efforts... Then they are likely going to run off with my $800 worth of valuables no matter what I put them in.
Pray tell. How are the thieves going to push your safe over when it’s against a wall and bolted to floor.
Only an idiot would go to the expense of buying a safe only to leave it free standing in the middle of the room.
Not realy to argue with you but let's just say that in some countries you must have a safe for certain "sports equipment". Combine this with the fact that you live in a rental appartment and can't bolt the safe to the wall or floor.
Placed in a narrow room space, bolted to the floor, and blocked with wood at top so it cannot be easily pulled-over would slow down most thieves for quite a while. Even so, are you actually going to protect $5K in stuff in a 10-15K safe?
@@Pw6872 who said anything about 5k? People keep way more then that . Guns , cash , jewelry , crypto legers whatever
My thoughts exactly
@@Pw6872 lol just 1 of my rifles is worth 5k, another is worth 3.5k and a pistol at 2k. and another pistol at 1.5k. Hell I have video games worth more than some peoples cars.
These guys should really be wearing safety glasses while doing this, stay safe out there
Would an acetylene torch basically cut through any safe? I'm thinking so with no problem.
One if the best comment sections Ive ever saw 😂😂
Me too!! People who own safes must be comedians!!
@@joekrebs964 We have money, so yeah were laughin.
Um yeah. Good luck tipping my 1000lb loaded safe which is lagged into both the wall and floor...over. C'mon...
TakeDeadAim fair enough. How many people don’t lag their safes to the floor?
TakeDeadAim they can just attack the side the weakest area ..... if they have time they can always get in
Ryarios people that are really serious
probably don't even support the wooden floor so it can take the express route some morning at 2am through the floor
Hahahaha
I guess the moral of the story is there really is no longterm (passive) defense against dishonest people.
Given enough time, energy, resources, and motivation, anything can be broken.
Shit apples Ricky 🍎
You can use this safe. First bolt it to the floor, second put it in a corner so they can't pry it open. Put a sticker on it that you store black powder in it so that if they cut the safe they make a bomb.
"Helicopters cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, but they can fall out of the sky and hit you... that's a false sense of security"
This has been up for over seven years without one shout-out to the Lock Picking Lawyer? Granted many professional lock pickers and most amateurs could not do what he does. :-)
I think it would be foolhardy for LPL to show how to break into safes. If he hasn't done one yet, that's probably why.
If I can't keep my possessions, you will not get them either. That's why I leave a 32 ounce black powder can uncapped in my safe. Enjoy the suprise fireworks show! Hope you brought eye protection!
Dubbed, "Yo Sammity Sam"...
🤣🤣🙄
Do you think the uncapped black powder will do anything after absorbing moisture from the air for a year, or longer?
"These are not professional thieves" my ass. they have done that a time or two....lol
well, they are professionals, since they do this stunt and get paid for it, as a profession... but not thieves, since they didn't steal anything. It was empty! Or maybe they just stole my time by making me watch this shit.
I'd be willing to bet they are employees of this guy! They know all the weak points and have had practice doing this. I'd like to see a youtuber do a UNBIASED video doing this with regular guys! We all know the people that do this crap are tweakers that dont know shit! ITS NOT LIKE THE MOVIE'S
@@llVIU yup the one with that little bar sure hit every spot like he preped it
Where does the extra room come from when you tip the safe over on it's back? Do they drag it out of a closet and then tip it over between the bed and the dresser?
Wait.... it took these FOOLS less than 2 minutes to open that safe... heck, it wasn't bolted down, just use a dolly and cart it out of the house, then open it at their leisure. This guy thinks his customers are idiots... opening a safe that is not bolted down and that you have all the room you want to work around is simply a stunt. -- Put the safe in a small closet that has wooden studs in the walls. Then, bolt the safe down to the concrete with anchor bolts. Put a alarm trigger on the door of the closet that alarms the police as soon as they open the closet. .... let's see how long it takes them to open the safe then.
How many crackheads thieves bring their large steel crowbars to rob you. Never....
with a 5ft bar I can pull the bolts out of the studs in about 10 seconds. That's a trivial problem you've added. From there I can slide it where ever I need to to work on it. Add another minute and you'll be right back at the same place.
@@williammcgill1562 The crack heads want untraceable merch they can pawn, they aren't after your guns. In Canada at least we've had a number of pro jobs gunning for semiautos: they follow people home from the range on the weekend and then hit the place Monday morning when the owner's at work: they hit the dogs over the head with a hammer and then have all morning to work the safe open at their leisure.
This video is kind of a joke. People put thier safe in a closet or against a wall and bolt it there. At that point there isn't any room for a 5 foot prybar. There is no room for leverage in most cases. The company that made this hopefully lost money.
I agree. Who leaves it in the middle of the room and not attached to the floor
Actually, I think they proved that the safe they broke into was a really good safe.
They had a hard time getting into in, while it laid on the floor, using a 5 foot rock bar, and having to use all their weight an strengthen to get that door to move a little at a time.
@Bob Watters well not everyone can afford fort knox!
@Bob Watters What are you talking about, I have a metal gun cabinet.
They would not get in it and get away with my guns.
Lining bar*
WTF is a "rock bar"? 🤣🤣
@@600zxr If you don't know what a rock bar is, then I would guess you never did any work in your life. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@coltwinchester6124 you didn't know the name of the bar used in the video. It is a lining bar used for railroad track maintenance for lifting rail, lifting ties, lining the track (hence the name), etc....
Nope, I didn't do "any work in my life" the nine years I spent doing manual track maintenance for Union Pacific Railroad. And I'm not actually recovering from back surgery at this moment due to working my ass off at that job. Still feel better about yourself by attempting to insult other people?
I've been a professional locksmith for 20+ years and i know that most "safes" (even the expensive," high quality" are thin gauge metal with drywall and carpet, which contains high amounts of formaldehyde (a very corrosive and toxic chemical that will rust you guns from the inside out). I use a lockbox like secureit brand because real safes are way too expensive and aren't safe anyway.
And then you can do your own drywall work lol
Palmed a lot of cards there: 1) Two men with heavy equipment, unlikely in most home burgleries. 2) They were able to tip the safe over and apply their whole wieght to leverage against it. Most safes are bolted to the floor joyces or to concrete slabs. 3) Safes also tend to be in closets or corners which makes using long levers like those problematic. I don't see you're average burgler being able to do this in most real world senarios.
@Prody Williams So he posted where is safe was, what type of safe it was, and when he would be gone. Let me guess, Qanon Trump supporter?
@@juxalie1 Also you think a crow bar and a pry bar are "Heavy equipment"? lols
@@peroxideconan7961 Okay, so it's not a forklift, but the average Burgler, might have the crowbar at most, not a 6 foot pry bar.
I've seen demos where the "thieves" didn't bother with the door, they just cut through the sidewall or back with a grinder, because all the hype goes into the door, while the sides are much lower gauge steel.
Good point, literally how the pros do it. normally you cannot get that kind of leverage on a safe that’s properly installed.
"Street Thief"
My gun safes are only intended to keep kids out of my guns.....no safe is perfect.
Mine is more for the fire rating...2400F for 2 hours
James Nosactivated get rid of the kids.
Hopefully your kids aren't middle age men with crowbars
Thats all you really need.
My safe is for everything except for the thieves.
Wouldn't you have loved to see a jack n the box clown on a spring, jump out out at them when they got it opened?🤣
One, my "cheap" safe is hidden. Never put your safe in an office or especially the master bedroom. That's the first place they will look. The way mine is placed it would be very difficult to pry on the door since that side is boxed in and only one side is exposed. You would have to remove a wall and cabinets on the wall to get to it to pry. It's bolted to the slab so no one is moving it or pushing it over. Normal burglars are smash and grab, they don't have tools and are fairly stupid. Even if they found my safe the alarm has been going off for awhile at this point and their time is very limited. Any safe can be cut into with the proper tools no matter the cost. This demonstration leaves a lot out of the equation and there are many variables not discussed. Yes, if I left my safe not bolted down in the middle of a room and two guys with a giant pry bar attacked it, they could get in just as easily, so your 2:30 in and out becomes more like 30 minutes or more in my scenario. The police have shown up long before that.
Joke's on them that safe was empty.
just like the one they brought up from Titanic!
I want to see them try on your brand safe. How do I know its not as easy?
I agree that the safe that are sold at Cabela’s bass pro etc. aren’t top level safes. But if you bolted to the floor and put it in a corner it’s gonna be hard to get the leverage to pop it open. definitely doable, but they’re going to need a lot more time & effort.
They should be wearing eye protection.
Brilliant I missed that one.
They were using auto activated safety squints
One eyed trouser snake protection
He said they weren't professionals
@@slash09r1 Professional thieves wear eye protection?
Lol, real thieves would bring a $10 disc grinder from Harbor Freight and peel open your "quality safe " in 10-20 min.
These bums don't work that hard anymore.
That is why a good safe is not only strong from the front, but the sides as well. Ideally you have it set into where only the front is accessible, but that is alot of work. If not, have the safe with strong multiple layers of hardened steel. Have some stainless in there for heat attacks, have a nylon fiber material in there to bind up any cutting attacks. But that is going to be costing alot of money, and if you were in the market for that kind of safe, I am sure you have enough to cover it and it would be well worth the investment for whatever is inside.
Steve Hoover they are all crack heads that want to sell what's inside they don't know how to use a grinder
Bold letters on the front, "DANGER NO SPARKS OR FLAMES. GUNPOWDER PRESENT INSIDE"!
Explosive H/C 1.1 sticker.
With someone decent i would say a grinder could open it up and be gone in 5-15min
I'll say it. No safes are really safe. I've worked with the most top of the line safes/vaults. And even those were rated to 1 hour (against a well prepared adversary. Eg. Came prepared with explosives and all the correct tools and a small army to defend them as they got in.) 1 hour. And these things cost millions each.
Honest opinion. Accept your fate. We put 50 dollar locks on a door within 10 feet of a window placed in a wood house. Security is an illusion.
@Asd Asdg I'm not sure how to reply to this. I'm just pointing out that buying a safe isn't pointless but it's about a half step up from pointless. Very observant of you Holmes.
Well luckily mine is anchored on the concrete against a corner wall, looks like I’m safe
We can do without the creepy music in the background
This is why I got a custom made Sturdy safe. USA made in the nearest city to me, locally owned and operated, and the owner Terry took a good hour or 2 out of his day to show me the whole operation. He answered all my prying questions all the other safe companies either refused to answer, didnt know how to answer, or lied about. They got $5,500 from me because their business and their product are honest, reliable, and to the point. They dont offer piano gloss black finishes but they do offer more steel per dollar than anyone else and their design is stout. You can opt for whatever upgrades you feel need to be done and they'll work with you to create an interior as well as exterior that will suit your needs. I have a custom door layout on mine as well as a custom finish on the outside. As a plus for someone like me who is still wandering in life (move somewhat often) my safe only weighs a ton versus some of the concrete-filled options I was looking at that come in around 4-7.5 tons... so it is easier to move if/when i need to do so
Concealment beats a big steel box with a fancy lock any day...Create a hidden storage place instead & if you really want a safe put it somewhere for the crooks to work on it but leave nothing but a "fuck you" note inside the thing...
He's got a point, it depends what you're trying to protect.
Top tip for you, buy a cheap safe & make it easy to find but leave it empty, have your hardcore good quality safe somewhere much 'safe'r 😁
whats the point in having a safe lol
or put the good stuff in the cheap safe and let em steal the nice one lul n00bs.
personally i keep my shit i cant afford to replace in a safe deposit box if they wanna mount a mission worthy of a Payday 2 DLC fuckin take it you filthy animal.
gatorsinthebayou Exactly.
Learnings from the video: 1) Bolt the safe to the floor. 2) Position safe with minimal clearance to the left (non-hinged side) of the safe.
3) Position the safe so it can't (easily) be laid on its back.
Quality safes are always nice to own, but most of them are incredibly impractical for home owners, unless you keep tens of thousands of dollars worth of guns, cash, or gold inside. A simple safe made out of a few inches of any mates bolted to the ground will stop 99.99% of burglars in their tracks. Sure given enough time a burglar could break into any safe even the compound of for Knox but, time is one thing burglars do not have unless t house is isolated and miles from civilization. Also almost nobody would be having a massive safe just chilling in the middle of a large open room. Anyone who owns a safe that weighs a ton has that up against a wall.
3 things:
1) they couldn't have done this as easily if the safe was properly bolted down
2) I have a safe for my firearms, they keep kids out, not thieves. Cheap is fine.
3) Insure what you're afraid to lose, don't trust a safe.
Makes a good point! If safe is bolted to the floor and the leverage on the sides meaning no room to lever the door open is minimal, then how ez would it be then!?
What would the results be, had it been bolted to the floor..
@planningperson laidbackdeep they would have ZERO leverage if it was bolted to the floor.