Canon C70 Reactions (from a C200 owner)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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This whole camera is designed to save time. Production and post. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
The C200 started shipping in November 2017, it’s just 3 years old.
Ditto, I was just thinking the same thing.
I was thinking the same, 5 years old already? Damn times flying
As a GH5 shooter who really wanted to like blackmagic this appeals to me. All of that functionality in a single package, and the possibility of throwing some voigtlanders on it! If they produce a focal extender so you can use mft lenses in super 16 mode it’s game over!
Why does blackmagic not appeal to you?
san san Just usability as I primarily shoot run and gun, and moved away from rigging.
I firmly back you up on this.
Agree, it definitely will be around. I cut commercials for a lot of large agencies and now every campaign has a 9:16 output. This is really needed.
I would wait , reason the Sony FX 6 will be out soon , plus the rumor Canon EOS C50, they playing games with the buy and cancel button😆 but either way the customer wins. 🎉
I didn't hear anything about a C50 but if its just a EF mount that would work for me.
What’s the C50 supposed to be like?
Yeah, people don’t talk about ProAV enough. They are great, no Tyler Stalman but still good.
currently i have the canon m50 (mainly used as a webcam and for my son to learn camera-ing lol), the canon EOS R (current b cam), and the canon EOS R5 (as my A cam), and drooling over the canon c70.....can canon just sponsor me already? i'm cleary a loyal fanboy lol
I watched the entire cvp video without having even enough money too afford any camera lol
get the brain!
Nicely done. I'm a c200 owner as well and this appears to be the next camera I will be purchasing. Great video as always.
The lack of RAW and IBIS really hurt in a 6 grand body, but anymore it seems like we need a studio cam, and a run & gun cam to keep up with the market. But after this, I probably will go with the C70. I want to save as much time and possibility of error
They glossed over the fact that you can record full HQ files to one SD while simultaneously recording proxies to the second card. Which could save a ton of time editing.
To be honest the files are so lightweight it doesn’t matter
I am really loving your content recently. Your opinion is very valuable to me. Keep this up
No, it’s not better than the C200B. 12bit RAW cannot even be compared with 10bit. Watch Crimson Engine’s video comparing 12bit vs. 10bit vs. 8bit. You can export 12bit RAW to any 10bit codec you need but you CANNOT magically make a 12bit file out of a 10bit one. That alone makes the C200/B a better camera than the C70.
A BMPCC6k user here, and though my camera is way cheaper than this C70, I am still very excited for the potential upgrade, which may seem off, since my set up can do 6k and has a great dynamic range with an EF mount. However, the built-in NDs, two XLR inputs, and great canon AF brings a lot of value to me and the type of shoots I do.
The BMPCC6k was/is a great purchase for me to make post-graduation as its what I could afford at the time. However, now that projects are steady, I definitely want to invest in the C70. Especially since RF glass is Canon's future, and as someone who owns EF glass, making the transition over the next few years is the move I want to make.
I should also mention I shoot stills as well, and having a set of RF lenses to use on my cinema camera and my EOS R is soooo good! Very happy with this hybrid cinema camera Canon is making!
The Blackmagic is fantastic, especially for the price, but the C70 is a much more well rounded workhorse camera
@@stalmanplus YES! Now that I can justify the cost of an upgrade, I think this will be my new set up. Unless Canon decides to release something else this year, which at this point, maybe? hahaha Us consumers are benefiting from all this Canon, Sony, BM, RED, camera drops for sure.
C70 looks really interesting for me. I'm disappointed with the mini-xlr because I use sennheiser avx mics where the receiver plugs directly into a full size xlr input and I don't need to worry about other mounting options. That's really convenient.
Also the V90 cards aren't cheap. I just got a Wise CFExpress type B 128gb for my Panasonic S1. It is super fast and cost $175 from B&H. Where as a Panasonic 128gb V90 card costs $400 from B&H, which is slower. You can get Angelbird 128gb for $200, but it's still more expensive and slower than the Wise CFexpress type b. Ultimately, I would have liked to have seen Canon have cfexpress type b slots, or at least 1, but that's just because I'm happy to invest into that media. Other people might prefer using slower SD cards they already own. Can't please everyone all the time!
As a C200 & EOS R owner, this looks pretty tasty, BUT these are my concerns: no CLOG (to match with EOS R, though it has the other CLOG flavors); no EVF, though not a dealbreaker; and probably most importantly - price point.
Actually that lack of clog is a good point, there’s no reason they should have left it off
It has Canon Log2 / Canon Log3 . Look at the specs page from Canon website.
@@stalmanplus Its has Canon Log2 / Canon Log3 . Look at the specs page from Canon website.
Yes, CLOG 2 & 3, but not standard CLOG. The concern is that the EOS R only has standard CLOG, so matching the two cameras might be problematic...
BIG DOWNSIDES
1. NOT FULL FRAME(26.4x13.8mm)
2. NEED TO USE FOLLOW FOCUS for zoom in & out
I’m guessing DGO captures pixel in one photosite, and when it’s read out it’s signal is feed to two different OP-AMPs so you have two different levels of analog gain. Then you sample the two signal with ADCs and pick the best value (with some HDR algo). If signal is low, use the high gain analog. If signal is high, use the low gain analog. Optimal analog gain for all of the picture.
Similar to FpADC for analog audio, or HDR workflows in photoshop. Capture at different gain and select the best value.
So almost like dual native ISOs sampled for each shot, only it just happens in the gain stage.
But I’m just guessing, I’m sure there’s a patent somewhere if you want to know for sure.
I’d certainly check out Giannis Saroukos’ review. He provides detailed info while working with the camera in a beautiful location.
I see there are a bunch of C200 owners talking about changing to the C70. For me, as a C200 owner and lover - I'll think twice before considering a switch.
The processing, storage, and NLE system technologies are growing so exponentially that the issues we are facing now should be distant memories in a year or two.
I still believe that to have the RAW capability is preferable, it simply opens up so many delivery possibilities.
Ask the question - "if the data storage and transfer rate issues are dealt with, would I want to limit myself to two or three acceptable codecs, or rather have the capacity to transcode into almost any codec I want to - 8 bit, 10 bit, 12 bit - 420, 422, 444 etc .... all within a matter of minutes?"
Because it's coming. What is happening today was unthinkable two years ago, and I believe that soon we will be forgetting about the C200 RAW storage and transfer conversations we are seeing today.
At least I hope so ... so for now, I'll be putting my faith in the C200 and the rapid expansion of RAW management technology.
As that happens I cannot imagine a better cine camera at the price.
Any thoughts on this?
I literally picked up at c200b about a week ago. Definitely thought about the RAW capabilities still hold to today’s standard, but I’m hearing the new sensor in this new camera is just so advanced, i don’t want to have buyers remorse and return my c200 lol
@@The_Guth I really believe the C200 will reward us in the long run ... Im conflicted too, but that RAW capability advantage is undeniable. I've decided to keep my head down and continue to focus on getting the job done with RAW - a little more work (at present), but massive reward in image quality and versatility in post.
Enjoy!!
Great comment thanks! I’m with you 100% mate. We will be rewarded, I like the idea of keeping my head down, ignore the noise, make content.
Take a look at the C300 Mark III Sensor tests done by CineD vs the tests Gerald Undone did. Shows that the A7s III is 13 stops of usable and the C300 III sensor has 12.8 useable stops, while the Alexa measures around 14. IMATEST isn't subjective, but for me there are a lot of subject reasons each image behaves differently. For example, CineD with the IMATEST system measured the C500 Mark II at 13.1 since they observed slightly higher range in the highlights. But you could argue that since the C300 Mark III has cleaned shadows you can finally expose for the highlights without clipping and still have tons of room in the shadows to lift. I think in the end, a shooters lens collection may be a more important factor in choosing an upgrade theses days than camera specs alone since everything is amazing and we are unbelievably spoiled.
Interesting, I haven’t seen the CineD tests yet
@@stalmanplus Sadly they only posted stills on their blog about their lab tests. No video. It's all pretty relative though, I would say we are at a point at which most new cameras being announced have excellent image quality with much less downsides. So it's really a feature and ergonomic battle more than ever.
I've done tests of c300 mk III personally, and, while I have to admit that AT LAST - Canon has done a wonderful sensor, the noise is there, especially if we're talking about RAW. It's somewhere in the range of -1,5 or -2 stops better, compared to an Epic MX / Alexa in the shadows. After -6 there's a clear sensor/noise smear in RAW. The shadow noise in raw renders in green and magenta. I highly doubt the idea of super-usable shadows, it's more like - you're in the Helium/Gemini range in terms of DR. Which is really good for most occasions, and there's no real need to dip into shadows with 6+ stops of highlight latitude in RAW. I can confirm it's something in the range of 13 stops in RAW. In XF-AVC shot in c-log2 - the DR is way less in highlights (1-1.5 stops less) and the image is by far less noisy (a ton of NR seem to happen). But +3 or -3 stops - and the color is kind of washed out of the image, totally unusable - like a sepia colored image. Both c300 mkIII and c70 - are extremely capable cameras, nothing like this I could have imagined two years ago even. The AF, the form-factor, the ease of use, the weight - all makes them an extremely capable cameras, especially for a limited crew. While c70 is clearly not for a production style of jobs, I'd rather buy a c70 over a Komodo if I was doing events etc - it just checks more boxes for smaller jobs, easier to use etc. While for productions I'd choose a Komodo (SDI, RAW, rigging options etc).
As someone(Aaron) who’s going through the same thing so many good one I said I’m just going to keep buying till I can’t 😭🤣
I pre ordered one of the c70’s for my production. Planning on putting it side by side against the Komodo soon as I get it. But unless you really value red raw, it’s hard to pass up all the convenience and usability features of the c70.
Do you think the 10 bit is enough tho?
Nothing is ever enough 😅 but for the vast majority of work, it will do a great job
@@KestonMoore yup, it's enough for most 99% shooting case. plus you get more dynamic range with clog
I'm stunned by this camera. Ordered, and my a7s-iii pre-order dropped-
“Mainly there to throw in the garbage 😂😂😂, I laughed” I own (and operate) a c100 Mark ii. Since I got a gimbal (ronin s, I know not ideal cause of the evf lol) I haven’t used the top handle. However It is useful if you a lot of handheld low angle shots though lol. I feel like since the audio is in the camera now it’s less necessary, but still nice to have just in case you might need it for a rare occasion...just rambling 😏 lol
I love too handles, I’m just teasing about canon making an ugly one. Super functional though
So I have the R5 and my next investment would be a cinema camera. I’m between the C70 and the Komodo. I am someone who has invested in RF lenses so i am just so happy and relieved that we have RF cinema cameras!
Looks great! I want to see the FX6 first before making my final decision. What a year !
Great review!
Awesome to see you Sam looking at this camera too! Would love to hear what your setup is going to be like moving forward with all the new camera releases like R5, R6, A7SIII, C70, Red Komodo, etc?
Personally looking to upgrade 2-camera hybrid setup and I am between R5, R6, C70 and XT4.
Nice! I have a C200 and an EOS R but this is seeming like it would make a lot more sense for most things lol. Which camera did you use for this vid? Colors look great!
Thanks! This is shot on the R5
@@stalmanplus Nice!! Keep it up.
Hey Canon, please update the C200 menus as well.
As it look now, this will be my next camera to replace my original C100. I won't get rid of my C100. I will continue to use it with the C70 and EOS R.
on a different note, I had the EOS M and purchased the Viltron speed booster and it definitely made a difference with that camera. i think the Canon adapter will make a difference with the C70.
I can't believe a commenter on a different channel said to me that this is not a professional cinema camera. When I asked him why he felt that way, he could;t give me an answer. I think part of the problem is due to he's a Sony shooter, plus this camera doesn't have raw. As for not having raw, it would be nice to have, but I know that Canon will not throw every feature in this camera.
I use to shoot everything in raw using my 5DM3 and ML Raw and it was very forgiving. With that being said, I will be fine with C-log 2 and 3
They basically fixed everything thats an issue with my C200. This, or thr Sony FX6 will be my next one. What a time to be a filmmaker.
I’m betting your getting this 100%. It’s got your name on it, size & functionality & vertical shooting.
I am in the same boat, so many camera’s to pick. And even more so, so many nice once.. C70 seems to check most boxes for me at the moment but we might get surprised again with the F6 from Sony that is rumored to come. Nice year to be a camera consumer💪🏻
So with the mini XLR jacks, what would be the best option? Getting mini XLR cables and adapting at the mic or using regular xlr cables and adapting at the camera? Maybe I'm overly cautious, but I don't like the idea of hanging a fat XLR cable off that mini jack. I agree this looks like an amazing camera.
Nice and calm video. Not shouty. Thanks 👍
Do you think this has the EOS standard picture profile from the C100 that was missing on the C200?
Just a photographer not interested in filming but love your content and gear in general 😀
Amazing camera! Canon is really dominating the market with great new products!
The reason you’re seeing a difference between the C70 and C300iii is because they were shooting raw on the c300. In Gerald Undone’s video on the c300iii he showed the same results where the xfavc holds better to under exposure than the raw for some reason
The one difference in worried about is the the raw versions hold the highlight saturation much better. Hopefully it’s not very visible
Stalman Podcast, totally. The thing to remember is this result is identical to the c300iii. Raw holds more highlight saturation, but noise comes in faster when under exposed compared to the xfavc. This is just the nature of linear vs log. So if you have c300iii and are not shooting raw you will have same results as C70. With built in Nd up to 10 stops you should never have to worry about blowing the highlights. In Gerald Undone’s video he shows that you don’t gain anything with exposing to the right on this sensor and the amount of room in the shadows means just expose properly or under with this camera. Probably the most straight forward camera / sensor on the market when it comes to exposure!
I hate that the canon c70 has a RF mount. The good side of it is that you can mount any adapters on the camera which is fine, but the downside is, that it's a fucking adapter. A adapter by time will always becomes loose and then when you for example have wireless focus of you change focus or zoom, the whole lens starts to shake because the adapter is loose. Who wants loose adapters....
Really excited about this one for sure
im probably going to get both the komodo and this.. they are different beasts. red has much much better image quality c70 is run and gun and lower file size
I enjoyed your video even though my am not a videographer but an engineer. Sixteen bits is clearly not exactly as stated due to the magic in "dual gain" sensor tricks which involve noise reduction trickery as well. Some form of "AI noise reduction" no doubt. The images will look better as if they were nearly 16 bits so it is a new way of interpreting dual gain 16bits meaning which gets trickier and non standard among camera makers.
I really wonder how R6 with atomos ninja v compares for a more budget option
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the R6 shoot 10bit natively? f so, I wonder if an Atoms Ninja V would make a difference? I know the the C70 is about $3000 more , $2500 if you add the ninja V, but it dies depend on your budget.
I looked at the R6 to go with my EOS R and original C100, but I think I will skip several months of meals and get the C70 lol
Tyler - I have a Komodo ST and I'm left wondering why the C70 should take my money. I mean, yeah.. def has more options but the image quality, think the C70 would be better? If you had to chose one... dun dun duuuun what would you do? I have a camera addition.. Canon R, Canon R5, RED Komodo ST, GFX100 and 50S, Sony A7R IV... no freaking idea why I have all this stuff. Oh yeah, I'm bad at making decisions. As an ex Calgarian.. help me Tyler.. why C70 or Komodo? GO. =)
I have the Komodo ST too (which I LOVE!). Here's why I'm getting this camera too. 1. Long format recording (optimal file size, 10 bit 4:2:2 is plenty when properly exposed) 2. Cheap media, with the ability to record to both cards in different formats 3. First camera I wouldn't actually rig up beyond included components. I think it's the perfect easy go-to for events, travel, weddings, etc. 4. Amazing autofocus and for what I'd use this camera for, I'd actually use it 95% of the time 5. .71x focal reducer for the best of both worlds of full-frame but s35 sensor. 6. Great ND's (the RF to EF drop-in has a massive color shift. Hoped to use it on the Komodo but ended up returning it). 7. Much more internal audio control eliminating the need for an external recorder for multiple audio inputs. These are just the top reasons but I have many more :)
Brandon hit a lot of the points, it’s still a tough choice. Komodo will always win in terms of image quality, but the versatility and speed of the C70 just makes sense for a lot of projects. Double the battery life, triple the card capacity, no rig required
My heart likes the Red more, but my brain know the C70 will fit more jobs
Hey I've been questioning this over the A7S3 but you know it's great because us the consumer wins with the competition! Because the Sony FX6 is coming out soon and if they do with that what they've done with the PS5 by undercutting Microsoft, if song undercut canon with the FX6 that's going to be mind blowing as I'm hedging my bets on the FX6 taking the lead out of the FX6 & C70. Because the FX6 will be full frame and have e mount meaning bone of this needing £800 adapters to use newer more expensive full frame canon lenses!. Should have made the C70 full frame but again canon didn't because didn't want to affect the higher price cinema cameras, which they already have with the C70 so why not just go full frame!. But ya it's great for us because I bet bet Sony is reducing the price of the FX6 from what they were going to charge in light of the C70 price!.
No RAW option in a modern “cinema” camera seems to be a big missing element. Maybe Canon will eventually enable RAW (ProRes RAW) via HDMI. That would make it enticing to me, although it seems the only advantage of this camera over the A7S III .. built in ND filters.
Yeah I’m not surprised internal raw is missing because of the SD cards, but they definitely could have made external an option
you're the camera guy along with gerald and camera conspiracies that i trust. both the komodo and c70 are awesome.
here are some questions.
1. are you excited with the speedbooster. would like to compare the metabones or the official ones. a reliable 3rd party that have been doing it for years or the official from canon.
2. didn't you say you're going to make a real review for r6 and r5 purely from the photography perspective.
3. which one would you prefer. red komodo with the red raw or c70 with autofocus and built in nd
1. I consider that canon speedbooster a must buy with the C70. I’d stick with the canon
2. I have a video coming talking about which R to buy
3. This is way more versatile than the Komodo, but I’m still torn between them
Stalman Podcast I agree. If canon did raw, even externally via firmware update, it would be a no brainier to get it over the Komodo.
@@stalmanplus if you had to choose one which would you choose? Komodo or c70
Great podcast , this is the way i like it !
Saw the video's from cpv and pro AV , they are spectacular reviewers , but somethings need a secind opinion or explanation ..you did perfectly !
Well done.
Grtzz
Nice to see your input :) Very useful to see a user of cinema camera's to give some relevant input!
Some people complain about the price, and they are the ones who won't even buy one, i think it's fair and who loves canon will buy it anyways regardless of price, cuz they know what it's capable of
I can’t understand how anyone could complain about the price, it looks great to me
@@stalmanplus it's like the eosR, people complain everything about it but when they use it they love it
Stalman, do you know if the LUT on the C70 which can be viewed on the LCD screen, can it also show up on an external monitor using the HDMI port?
Loved the comments! Great camera indeed!!!! Thanks 🙏
Lens stabilization is always better IMO. But it would be good to have IBIS as well.
My c100 feels old now. I have no work but want to buy this camera. Maybe next year.
Also, I rent the fs7 sometimes. I am hoping it can replace that too.
Actually canon had done this menu system before Blackmagic. It's been the way to control the XC series but of course with less options.
Good to know, I like it
hey dude ! nice video! I would really like to know your opinion on the non availability to shoot raw on the camera. Do you actually use the raw format on other camera ? is the big bump in the storage needed really that much worth it? (I have an EOS R and currently looking for a cinema camera to sometimes match both camera and/or bring only the c70 on other shoot for all the cinema only feature)
I love raw on the C200, I would rather be able to shoot it but I fully understand the tradeoffs. SD cards couldn’t handle it and the C70 wouldn’t be the price it is if they had added it
So do you consider it as a deal breaker ?
We’ll have to see the C70 footage but for a lot of uses cases it’s not a deal breaker at all. It could imagine using it a lot more often than the C200
Ok I'll be waiting anyway ! Thanks for taking the time!
I am sorry to say that, you look someone nice and I like they way you present it but you just cut one of the most important part for professionnals which is : you can't (without a cage who will be released in the futur) install your C70 on a professionnal tripod, it is not me who say that but CVP, and you have cut this part for something that shooting vertically is not something needed at all. Only for social medias... So you remooved the critical part which is really important.
I WILL buy a new cine camera 4th quarter this year to replace/downsize my RED Dragon. As of right now, Komodo is in the lead (hard to argue with a 16bit global shutter RED thats half the size as the one I already own..yumm), closely followed by A7S3 (which I’ve cancelled twice...doh!) C70 third, BMPCC6K fourth. Just need to see what this FX6 is all about before I pull the trigger. The amusing thing about all of these is that they are all lacking something quite useful that others of them have.
They’re all ALMOST perfect. The Komodo is still the camera I really want, the image is just so amazing, but the C70 is probably what makes sense for my real world work.
@@stalmanplus Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at too. Komodo looks to be the best image quality of all of them, and that's what it's ultimately about right? Having said that, in typical RED fashion it does little else. But hey, it has autofocus now, and all the footage I've seen looks...well, it looks like a RED, and that's a better look than all the others IMO. To get that RED look, with autofocus, and be able to fly it on a compact gimbal, for ~$6k?!. I'm actually surprised Komodo isn't more recognized amongst all the Canon and Sony videos. A7S3, like I said, is a close second. It's full frame, sensor stabilized 4K60/120 10 bit internal, likely the best autofocus on the planet, eternal RAW capable, and 3500 bucks. Theres a lot to like there. The real question I ask about the C70 is at it's price point, does the image look better than the Komodo? From what I've seen of Komodo, and the little we've seen from C70, I'd say no.
The Komodo looks better, hands down. Sadly it will probably be convenience over image quality that win the day for me. NDs, audio, slow motion and massive battery life will matter more for the jobs I do right now, although I wish clients would care more about my pristine 24p
@@stalmanplus Indeed. You've pretty much articulated my position as well, and now thinking about it and chatting it through with you, I DO still have and plan to keep the RED Dragon-X 6K, so there's my pristine image quality when I need it, I just don't want to muscle the thing around all the time anymore. What I should do is just by the A7S3 for all the reasons it would be the best choice of the bunch (it's unquestionably the best value of the latest bunch).....ahh, I don't know...lol
C70-->speed booster--> 24-70 2.8 is gonna be the move
I’m thinking the same thing, way better than the Sigma 18-35mm
@@stalmanplus Fact. One interesting thing to keep in mind, the sensor is closer to a 1.43 crop than a 1.5 or 1.6 crop. So the Sigma 18-35 f1.8 might translate to an equivalent F2.5 24-50mm but damn the 24-70 is legit.
Good to know, I was expecting the sigma would become a 2.9
That would make it a 24.5-75mm f2... WOW...just wow, that lens would probably never leave my camera unless for specialty shots. I would only have to change in the rare occasion I wanna go super long or super wide. Or get an extremely shallow borderline medium format look by using 35mm full frame primes (because I get an extra f stop which makes the depth of field even more shallow). Exciting!!!
@@lord-kingkassanova-vii7401 exactly! I think canon need to drop an pro body APCS camera ASAP
Thanks for the video Tyler!
i feel your pain tho...i was for sure that i needed the canon 1dxmIII, then was like oooooh gotta get the new c500...then soon as I got the r5 they announced the c70 and i'm like COME ON!!!
Are Canon also going to be releasing C50 before the end of the year?
It may be a small thing but that handle designed for the camera is functionally and aesthetically brilliant... we disagree.
Nice camera. Did you pull the trigger?
great review,great takes.
I was going to buy the C200b and then i seen the C70 I was up at 5am to preorder on announcing day
I think a lot of people will be picking up this camera that previously thought they’d planned to get something much bigger
Interesting. However this camera has no issues except that handle grip? No evf, no Wi-Fi, no SDI...
Every camera has issues, I’m sure once we can actually try the camera they will become apparent
Hello Stalman - what type of video work do you handle with the C200?
Good afternoon, congratulations on the review. I currently have a SONY HXR NX80, I am a freelance cameraman and I would like to evolve. I am interested in the Canon C70 with a 100-500 lens or Sony A7Siii with a 100-400- lens, which do you think would be the best option considering that I would need it to record ballet in theaters where it would be located in the audio room in the background and only with the stage light. The precision of the autofocus is very important to me and the camera would be on a tripod with a zoom servo. Thank you very much and greetings from Lima Peru.
They’re honestly so similar as far as video quality and frame rates but used for very different things. The c70 is much larger and much more expensive. The siii is cheaper and more portable but arguably has a worse lens selection (though I don’t think the differences will show as much in 4K video as they would in 24mpstills). The c70 has internal NDs, but if that’s not important, it also has better audio inputs, but if you go with the siii they have external audio that communicates with the camera. It really just depends.
But imo despite what people say with canons dual pixel, I find Sony’s siii af system for video is better than anything on the market rn
DGO is not the Dual Gain Architecture technology patent by Arri
Patent can't be violated
BMPCC6K still is probably the best option imo. And BRaw is so nice. Anyways, back to editing.
Different horses for different courses
The Blackmagic 6k has abysmal rolling shutter, no nd filters, BRaw and log footage from that camera is more challenging in post (than canon), it has less dynamic range, and terrible battery life plus no autofocus or image stabilization of any kind ...but you get 6k and raw for $2,000. If you don’t shoot fast moving subjects, have the extra set up/breakdown time, encoding time, don’t need autofocus, don’t need reasonable battery life, don’t need nds, and are talented at color correcting/grading, and have the hard drive space and computer hardware to edit these efficiently, it would be a great option. It’s a dream for certain ecosystems, but the reasons above are why It’s not ideal in most situations
Will using an external recorder like Atomos Ninja V5 help with color grading
So, is there a standard adapter (not speedbooster) from EF-S to r mount??
Since there's no internal stabilization those EF-S lenses would be really great for run and gun video.
Yes all the the EF to R adapters will work
I started watching and in the first 22 seconds I hear that the canon c200 is almost "5 years old". Yikes. The c200 was launched in may 2017. Most stores started getting it September, so more like a little over 3 years ago. The world is going fast as it is, no need to make it seem faster.
Another great video 👌
Why are people so happy to pay way more for stuff the A7SIII is already doing with a full frame sensor?
It’s a cinema camera really no competition. Nd filters, xlr, pro build, buttons everywhere, RF mount, battery life, built in fan, canon colour science, full frame with EF focal reducer. And finally it’s Canon. The fact that myself and many others use the 2012 C100 mk2 in 2020 for paid work tells you something about how good the cinema cameras are.
Why no EVF? I'm sure one will come out with one to adapt to it, but c'mon Canon - shooting run and gun outside this is invaluable -
Is this camera weather proof ?
Weather resistant is a better description and it is probably very similar to the weather sealed Canon hybrid DSLRS and mirrorless cameras. EF "L" lenses are weather sealed in most cases but the degree of weather sealing actually varies and there are really standards for what this means. With said some the DSLRS like the 1DX series has pretty amazing weather sealing though they are not fully water proof. ruclips.net/video/OM0wM_ecoMU/видео.html
@@rdm5546 I need an answer yes or no
@@topfelya No. Canon does not claim any of their cameras are "weather proof". Some bodies and lenses are described as being weather sealed by reviewers but not by Canon in the product literature. Weather sealed Canon products are not discussed as such with regard to the in the weather resistance in manual or brochures. Chuck Westfall, Advisor for Technical Information at Canon USA states that, “Canon EF lenses that have been enhanced with countermeasures for dust and water resistance are typically equipped with rubber gaskets and seals at key points. This Canon USA statement is some of the most detailed information that Canon has given that is in writing.
I dont think so , you the Fan hole its too exposed
If this could do Raw and or 6K. I would save up, But its not. And if fx6 at least deliver 4K Raw with around the same price tag... Id stay with sony.
Nah! I'd rather save more and wait for Arri to release a new camera than do canon or Red or blackmagic or Sony. I noticed that Arri protect their customers and let them use a camera for a long time. These other companies just keep releasing stuff like it's candy. FIRMWARE UPGRADEABLE is basically useless as they almost never upgrade anything significant. The truth is, if you have good lenses, no one will ever know you used a C this or that. In the end, composition, lighting (more durable gear), art direction, and story take centre stage. Once a camera can afford you the luxury of RAW, then it's possibilities are almost endless.
cool video man keep it up
Really nice images off the sensor ... Just like C300 iii ..... but I so hate Canon's design language for t g sir cinema cameras.
It’s funny they got so burned by the overheating from RUclipsr community so this time only gave it to the RUclips camera stores. Will you sell your c200?
Probably not at first, but eventually will trade it up
BTW, C200 not 5 years old. It shipped late August 2017.
Ha, I knew I should have checked. Feels like forever ago
Hey Tyler, greetings from Sydney. Given your dreamy eyed videos about the RED Komodo, you were the first person I thought of when the C70 was announced! As a hybrid shooter looking to potentially step up from the Canon 1DX2 (which still takes amazing photographs and crispy high bitrate 4K video), the Komodo and C70 are both timely options for me as well.
Recommend you check out the deep dive (two hour) comparison between the RED Komodo and the Canon C70 from two 'proper' Australian filmmakers, Dan Graetz (@graetzmedia who has put out some great Komodo content in the last month or two) and Dave May (@TallStoryFilms who shot the C70 promo for Canon Australia) rationally and in detail, without all the usual hype.
ruclips.net/video/aS1wRq5u-Hg/видео.html
Actually I caught the tail end of that stream when it was live! I should definitely watch the rest of it too
Nice Video mate
Can it be a cinema camera with out raw ?????
Except from no having raw, they didn't mention in their advertisement that it has only 60% Coverage for AF.
It’s only 60% when shooting 120p. At 24p it’s 80%
60% coverage when using the focal reducer.
yep 80% without speedbooster, 60% with speedbooster
This is more like a 1Dc mark ii, than an enhanced successor for the C100. I mean look at it! it looks like a 1Dx on steroids
Why not just use Blackmagic 4k or 6k so you can shoot raw?
Tons of reasons, NDs, battery life, IR filter, autofocus, 4K 120p, RF mount
Good stuff bro
Same price of red komodo...think komodo easy destroy this C70.
16 bit vs 10 bit color
I need you to get it so I can get you full review!
Let canon know 😁
4k 120 data rate
one day i will get one in my life
This just killed the Red Komodo
What about RAW video
You’re buying the KOMODO hahaha 😂 just so much more upside.