Michaels its fucking priceless this days, you ask him about any of the terrible shit he did back in his prime he will give the excuse that it was a different person and he is born again so he cant be held accountable by his actions by then. What a joke.
@@misterundead425 i mean he was literal human garbage back then, putting over wrestlers doesnt make it right at all. he is not really a piece of shit for not putting people over but for sabotaging careers plus people like RVD and Gregory helms have said that he is full of shit and it was still an asshole when they were around.
Shane's comments in these shoot videos are always consistent which is the first sign someone is telling the truth. He always comes across as a stand up guy and class act.
While I'm not defending Shawn's politics, to call him a "broken down has-been" is laughably ridiculous. Firstly, no one escapes age, and secondly, he "retired" with the an outstanding career. Working with Taker (at the end), to bring about two of the greatest matches in wrestling history. So, an asshole, sure, a "broken down has-been", no fucking way.
@@Jhoncena22 he did more than pull hair he clocked him several times according to Jerry king Lawler who was there who was using the toilet and to this day we don't know if he had time to wipe
@@avalond1193 ya..no literally everyone else has the same hair pulling story, you WANT to believe Bret did more because you’re a big fan and that’s ok, but when 90 % say it went one way and 10% say it went another way..the 10% is lieing
Kevin has actually said in another shoot 'all finishes are final', and it wasn't up for debate. I've heard Shane say this on two shoots now, so he is consistent with his story. To me it makes better business sense to keep the town strong to do a 'hot finish', but the Kliq were only keen on doing what was 'best for business' when it was their business.
@@wbmeprograms4505 unless we're all misinterpreting Kevin's words..... He might be talking about the incident where Pierre wouldn't do the job for Shawn in Canada after Pierre talked to Jacques. There's another story about ICP where people infer kev and Scott where in a car with ICP, but they weren't. It's what makes Kevin a master storyteller. Keeps it vague enough for people to interpret and talk about.
The Kliq all make excuses for their actions even to this day. They needed to get beat up to teach them a lesson and to teach Vince McMahon a lesson that bullying is not tolerated. That's how you deal with bullies. So either Vince was also bullied by the Kliq or he had a sexual relationship with one of several of them. Kevin Nash in every shoot interview has said he didn't care if he buried other wrestlers even if it was bad for business. His ego along with the other members was so big that they didn't care about anyone else. Just like any other gimmick or character it eventually dies out and they ruined careers for their own personal gain not for anything else. It kills me that wrestlers want to stay loyal to Vince McMahon after the things he that he let go on for so many years in his company.
Always like Shane...and always will...nwa champ...ecw champ...WWF champ...never got big headed...pure respect...as a fan...hands down...on the solo tip
@@jordcarter2359 it was a topic that was brought up about him getting over...but they went in a didn't direction...so you're right about the question mark....🤜🤛
i am a Shawn Michaels stan (hes my fav ever, think hes the GOAT talent wise) but idk... I always like hearing how much a shithead he was way back when. Cus while i love him as a wrestler i know he was an asshole and agree/understand a lot of these guys speaking out about (esp 90s) HBK. Shane esp always been one whos seemed very clear and honest about all he said and despite my "bias" I believe all he says.
I will always watch the franchise but why is he always asked this story in every shoot? Anyway I wish Shane Douglas was doing more with NWA or AEW or even Impact. he has such wisdom
probably because PCO is now a pretty big deal, and the Quebecers had been rather cast to the scrapheap of history for some time, partly because of the Kliq effectively writing them out of history, so a lot of people who discovered PCO from his modern work and wondered why the hell they hadn't seen much of him being utilised in his prime have discovered this story in later years and Shane's direct involvement in it has meant he's been asked about it repeatedly, or may have heard it on an earlier shoot but not attributed quite so much relevance to it because the Quebecers were fairly little-heralded at the time and not remembered it compared to other stories.
Jesus everything I listen too says HBK was a POS ,makes sense why he was the top guy in the company for years. It’s just like real life, most POS are top people in the everyday world too
I cannot believe or understand how anyone or a group of people can be that damn black hearted to try and starve a man who is busting his ass to try and get a paycheck and put food on the table for his family and pay the bills and he is traveling a bunch of miles just to try and make a dollar and money for his family,what a bunch of asshats those jerks are to do something like that to that man,they are some real pieces of shit.
I swear that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin either came in at the right time or had somebody watching their backs. They had luckily dodged a cluster of hollow bullets named The Clique. I do think that their breakthroughs were spontaneous and not planned - otherwise Michaels and HHH (of old) would have disrupted their momentum.
Cream rises to the top no matter what. You never hear big name guys complain about the Kliq. Always mid card and lower card guys that blame the Kliq for their lack of success in WWE. Comes down to Vince. If he saw money in you, you'd be there.
They're probably not leaving on bad terms, if they're leaving at all. Might as well have them on the card. WWE would act like they never existed, other companies don't think like that. It's petty.
People like Shane Douglas always fail in this world. He is too honest, too fair, too self-aware, too humble and too smart. If you're in a new company and you see the top guys being like the Kliq was and you see the boss is down with them, you better learn to BS and play politics, because that's how you will survive. Never confront them, remain neutral, be good to everyone, work hard, don't take anyone's side openly, never lecture these top guys on why you think they are wrong and you will survive abd even thrive. But try to be a courageous person who isn't afraid to call out BS and you're going down. Cool guy, but he is idealistic to a fault.
I love everyone in the Kliq but Shawn definitely sounded hard to deal with back in the day to say the least. I think everyone else in the group has always been cool
@@bigglilwayne7050 I don't think everyone of them were. Usually the main ones you hear about is just Kevin and Shawn. I don't worship Bret Hart's word just because he hated one guy for 15 years
@@crazyhorsejohnny1974 Yea I get that but I don't think the whole group was. For example, Triple H gets a lot of hate and I don't see why. Just about everyone who has worked with him or been around him has had nothing but positive things to say about him and I have never got tired of seeing him on tv. He has always been my favorite, every since I was little.
What I heard HHH was very two faces. Just look at the shadows movie when Hart wife is complaining he looked like a little kid getting told off. He would tell you something to your face but will say something different behind their back.
@@crazyhorsejohnny1974 That's close to what I'm saying. Of course they were followers, they were trying to make themselves more successful. I'm just saying how can you fault them for that? Idk I guess you could argue guilty by association. I don't really care about how they were backstage because it didn't affect me. I just like the Kliq because I like everyone in it and always have, Even since I was little and I didn't even know they were all in a backstage group back then.
The more I hear about Shawn Michael`s backstage antics, the more I wish he`d ended up on the wrong side of Haku
Bill Proud or Dynamite Kid.
Michaels its fucking priceless this days, you ask him about any of the terrible shit he did back in his prime he will give the excuse that it was a different person and he is born again so he cant be held accountable by his actions by then. What a joke.
@@misterundead425 i mean he was literal human garbage back then, putting over wrestlers doesnt make it right at all. he is not really a piece of shit for not putting people over but for sabotaging careers plus people like RVD and Gregory helms have said that he is full of shit and it was still an asshole when they were around.
Nothing good ever happens in Montreal
xhuntarianx no one wants a piece of Haku
Shane's comments in these shoot videos are always consistent which is the first sign someone is telling the truth. He always comes across as a stand up guy and class act.
Brian Hawk i met him once, what a great human being.
@@acehole4514 Good to know. Makes me an even bigger fan of the franchise.
I'm a huge fan of the Franchise. Plus, he had the best entrance music ever. Deep Purple rules
He was very nice when I met him last year or so. Great talent in his time.
He was my favorite ECW wrestler besides RVD. Love Shane.
Loved that theme !!! But the Gangstas theme was just pure energy !!!
Remember my name !!!
I forgot how killer his entrance was.
The kliq are a bunch of broken down has beens while PCO still going 💪 strong.
Ha ha, I know, ironic right?
PCO is a freaking monster nowadays the dudes insane !
While I'm not defending Shawn's politics, to call him a "broken down has-been" is laughably ridiculous. Firstly, no one escapes age, and secondly, he "retired" with the an outstanding career. Working with Taker (at the end), to bring about two of the greatest matches in wrestling history. So, an asshole, sure, a "broken down has-been", no fucking way.
@GRap TheGOAT He's in *amazing* shape. Dude's 60 years old fer cryin out loud.
@@redfem7447 dude looks fucking homeless, and can barely talk. Embarrassing.
Shane is a good dude! Every story he tells is truth.
Bam Margera looks exactly like this guy in the face
azjoe72 lol
And people wonder why Bret stretched Shawn in a dressing room. Geez. Wonder why...
@@aaronneville1164 Bret was an NCAA level amateur wrestler, he stretches Shawn 10/10 times
Lmao “stretched”. They had a hair pulling fight champ. Stop using wrestling terms to sound in the know
@@Jhoncena22 He stretched his hair.
@@Jhoncena22 he did more than pull hair he clocked him several times according to Jerry king Lawler who was there who was using the toilet and to this day we don't know if he had time to wipe
@@avalond1193 ya..no literally everyone else has the same hair pulling story, you WANT to believe Bret did more because you’re a big fan and that’s ok, but when 90 % say it went one way and 10% say it went another way..the 10% is lieing
Kevin has actually said in another shoot 'all finishes are final', and it wasn't up for debate. I've heard Shane say this on two shoots now, so he is consistent with his story. To me it makes better business sense to keep the town strong to do a 'hot finish', but the Kliq were only keen on doing what was 'best for business' when it was their business.
And Kevin's story changes while Pierre and Shane stay the same.
@@wbmeprograms4505 unless we're all misinterpreting Kevin's words..... He might be talking about the incident where Pierre wouldn't do the job for Shawn in Canada after Pierre talked to Jacques. There's another story about ICP where people infer kev and Scott where in a car with ICP, but they weren't. It's what makes Kevin a master storyteller. Keeps it vague enough for people to interpret and talk about.
Bret was right about everything.
Aaron Neville His personal life and affairs have zero to do with the WWE and backstage antics.
@@josephpalacio2343 I wouldn't say zero, he had his Sunny Days.....
@@aaronneville1164 Bret's affairs and his friendship with Dynamite Kid forced Shawn to become the biggest asshole in wrestling, got it.
I tend to agree with what Shane Helms once said about Shawn Michaels... "The religious thing is just a work and not the real Shawn Michaels."
Oh he shot on SM hard... Enjoyed Helms interview !!!
Who are we to say he doesn't have real religious convictions tho?
Meh, if it got him off the drugs who cares
@@leelohaskin7941 Intelligent people
The Kliq all make excuses for their actions even to this day. They needed to get beat up to teach them a lesson and to teach Vince McMahon a lesson that bullying is not tolerated. That's how you deal with bullies. So either Vince was also bullied by the Kliq or he had a sexual relationship with one of several of them. Kevin Nash in every shoot interview has said he didn't care if he buried other wrestlers even if it was bad for business. His ego along with the other members was so big that they didn't care about anyone else. Just like any other gimmick or character it eventually dies out and they ruined careers for their own personal gain not for anything else. It kills me that wrestlers want to stay loyal to Vince McMahon after the things he that he let go on for so many years in his company.
Loved when Shawn got fuked up so bad by one dude he lied and said 6 guys jumped him 😂
No wonder Shawn was beaten up so much.
That background is awesome
Always like Shane...and always will...nwa champ...ecw champ...WWF champ...never got big headed...pure respect...as a fan...hands down...on the solo tip
WWF champ?
@@jordcarter2359 it was a topic that was brought up about him getting over...but they went in a didn't direction...so you're right about the question mark....🤜🤛
I could listen to the Franchise’s stories all day with a bag of popcorn beside me.
Shawn backstage reminds of a punk i had to deal with in the business.
He's definitely telling the truth.
Side note why isn’t those hhh nwa tapes somewhere
NWA = WCW
Good thing is Hunter stayed out of it, but yeah as great of a performer Shawn was, he was a real POS.
Hunter was friends with Carl
And still is.
It explains where Triple H got his morals from when he was on top.
i am a Shawn Michaels stan (hes my fav ever, think hes the GOAT talent wise) but idk... I always like hearing how much a shithead he was way back when. Cus while i love him as a wrestler i know he was an asshole and agree/understand a lot of these guys speaking out about (esp 90s) HBK. Shane esp always been one whos seemed very clear and honest about all he said and despite my "bias" I believe all he says.
Yes Carl is the oldest ROH champion
Shane Douglas- the Franchise- is a straight shooter. Miss guys like that in wrestling.
Villian ent to AEW
Can anyone explain to me how A channel with almost half a million subscribers struggles to get 20-50k views
Thought this was Bam margera in the thumbnail.
I will always watch the franchise but why is he always asked this story in every shoot? Anyway I wish Shane Douglas was doing more with NWA or AEW or even Impact. he has such wisdom
His history with the NWA isn't the best.
probably because PCO is now a pretty big deal, and the Quebecers had been rather cast to the scrapheap of history for some time, partly because of the Kliq effectively writing them out of history, so a lot of people who discovered PCO from his modern work and wondered why the hell they hadn't seen much of him being utilised in his prime have discovered this story in later years and Shane's direct involvement in it has meant he's been asked about it repeatedly, or may have heard it on an earlier shoot but not attributed quite so much relevance to it because the Quebecers were fairly little-heralded at the time and not remembered it compared to other stories.
who is PCO or carl they are talking about
Pierre. He wrestled in the WWF as The Mountie and one half of the Quebecers tag team.
But it's all good now because Shawn Michaels had his "Amazing Grace" moment and is now a super-great "Christian" guy. :D
Can you imagine how much better WWE could have been, had that Piece of garbage HBK not chased away all the top talent.
Jesus everything I listen too says HBK was a POS ,makes sense why he was the top guy in the company for years. It’s just like real life, most POS are top people in the everyday world too
I cannot believe or understand how anyone or a group of people can be that damn black hearted to try and starve a man who is busting his ass to try and get a paycheck and put food on the table for his family and pay the bills and he is traveling a bunch of miles just to try and make a dollar and money for his family,what a bunch of asshats those jerks are to do something like that to that man,they are some real pieces of shit.
I swear that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin either came in at the right time or had somebody watching their backs. They had luckily dodged a cluster of hollow bullets named The Clique. I do think that their breakthroughs were spontaneous and not planned - otherwise Michaels and HHH (of old) would have disrupted their momentum.
Rock had HHH on his back trying to sabotage him. You can't sabotage greatness though.
The Rock had Patterson as his backer. Austin had JR.
Rock refused to work with Michaels because of an incident with his grandma
Cream rises to the top no matter what. You never hear big name guys complain about the Kliq. Always mid card and lower card guys that blame the Kliq for their lack of success in WWE. Comes down to Vince. If he saw money in you, you'd be there.
Those two are also scumbags.
sounds like it was mostly HBK
Shane Douglas doesn't look like a wrestler anymore. he looks like he's the manager or a buffalo wild wings
He actually worked as a manager of a Walmart store. I'm not certain that he still does.
Mr. Ghostbuster lmfaooooo
Why would they give PCO a title match at Final Battle if his deal has expired?
Not sure but Marty Scrull is also wrestling on that show not under contract however both of them could reach deals by then.
They're probably not leaving on bad terms, if they're leaving at all. Might as well have them on the card. WWE would act like they never existed, other companies don't think like that. It's petty.
Douglas you f'n rock brotha 🍻
Robert roodes older brother .
uh...is that blood on the floor behind Shane?
Pco is still around in roh and impact!
People like Shane Douglas always fail in this world. He is too honest, too fair, too self-aware, too humble and too smart.
If you're in a new company and you see the top guys being like the Kliq was and you see the boss is down with them, you better learn to BS and play politics, because that's how you will survive. Never confront them, remain neutral, be good to everyone, work hard, don't take anyone's side openly, never lecture these top guys on why you think they are wrong and you will survive abd even thrive. But try to be a courageous person who isn't afraid to call out BS and you're going down.
Cool guy, but he is idealistic to a fault.
Had the Kliq messed with BSK back in the day, they'd be unheard of today.
they were friends
While what Shaun and Kevin did was horrible, comparing it to a woman being raped was a bad comparison.
When was the last time you saw a snake turning into a deer?🤔🤨 don't worry I wait
Sandman literally just told a story how Shane didn't want to job to him on his way out ..
Did Shane feel like the need for a shower after that too ?
I bet you by now Shawn and those guys have apologized to pco and they are all good friends.
Actually they were still ducking with him as recently as 2008: ruclips.net/video/RMg4ZjJs2uY/видео.html
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Well now Hunter is getting buried Divorce prob next
I love everyone in the Kliq but Shawn definitely sounded hard to deal with back in the day to say the least. I think everyone else in the group has always been cool
@@bigglilwayne7050 I don't think everyone of them were. Usually the main ones you hear about is just Kevin and Shawn. I don't worship Bret Hart's word just because he hated one guy for 15 years
@@crazyhorsejohnny1974 Yea I get that but I don't think the whole group was. For example, Triple H gets a lot of hate and I don't see why. Just about everyone who has worked with him or been around him has had nothing but positive things to say about him and I have never got tired of seeing him on tv. He has always been my favorite, every since I was little.
The whole KliQ but PJ Are Fucking Douch bags full of stinky shit vomit
What I heard HHH was very two faces. Just look at the shadows movie when Hart wife is complaining he looked like a little kid getting told off. He would tell you something to your face but will say something different behind their back.
@@crazyhorsejohnny1974 That's close to what I'm saying. Of course they were followers, they were trying to make themselves more successful. I'm just saying how can you fault them for that? Idk I guess you could argue guilty by association. I don't really care about how they were backstage because it didn't affect me. I just like the Kliq because I like everyone in it and always have, Even since I was little and I didn't even know they were all in a backstage group back then.
It's pantomiming, Dean, NOT panto-MINING. D-
STFU Rick. Nobody needs an astrophysicist on this thread you feel me.
hes from a working town
Shane blew Shawn....
Nah Shawn is a big POS and shit stinks