Electricians day testing and inspecting one of the worst installs.
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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2019
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Testing and inspecting on this job.
Work carried out by someone who clearly has no idea what they are doing.
Before the comments pile in yes it’s a 2BA screw and yes the light was class 2.
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Just so everyone is aware I am now rewiring this flat check out my latest videos
I was gonna say.. they want someone like you who pointed out the problems to rewire, not go find some clown to waste more money. Nice to make some one happy re doing a hardware something or other for their home or car, make them safer, and happier, get paid for your honest efforts... It's a nice feeling.
@@softsmoken Do you know if she got the money back from the previous "electrician"?
@@BatXDude geez I dunno... Probably not. That might fall into a well you got this uncertified no permits pulled work done and you accepted it so it's kind of done.. but she could try.
Awesome CJR, we get the same crap going on here (Canada) as well! Cheers
BatXDude if she really wanted to she could go to small claims court and probably get it that way with videos and pictures of the shoty work they did as evidence OR she can spread the word that he’s no good al she has to do is tell ten people and guess what the chain started
Your idea of how much things cost made me laugh 😂 if they paid 50/60k for that kitchen then the client was ROBBED
@@MKRM27 yeah, that flat doesn't even look like a 100k flat!
That kitchen looks like a bnq marletti range , about 5k worth 😂
I think it depends where you live. In my area, these prices seem about right. Fun times in the second most expensive city in the world ^.^
That flat is probably worth close to half a million. Maybe if you got a time machine ride back to the 80's you could pick it up for under 100k.
That flat is in London, it had a total revamp not just the kitchen & 50-60k is a reasonable price... For a good job.
Would love it if you included an update of how the owner reacted and what steps she’s taking
I know this is an old video, but....I'm not a spark but I do enjoy watching pros at work. I bought a 3 storey 7 bedroom house a few years ago. It was a big Victorian house that had been converted to three flats and then converted back again to a single home. We were told it had been completely rewired but no certificates were available. That should have rung alarm bells, but to be honest you deal with so much rubbish buying a house you end up just wanting to get it done so things slip past. I called out a local spark, father and son team, brilliant. They came to fit a 32 amp car charger for me.What they found still gives me the shivers, just like watching Chris's video. In the cupboard where the (totally inadequate cu for that size of house) cu was situated, the ceiling had been lowered. In the void above were dozens of old school round junction boxes that took the old red and black twin and earth forward to the cu in new colours. This was done by the developers 'electrician'. It cost us a fortune to rectify. The developer, of course, went bust and opened up the next day under a different name. I know that nobody wants a ton of legal issues, but, it would be so good to be able to name and shame without fear of comeback. What these jokers do is not only dangerous but potentially lethal. Keep up the great work please.
You've got to admit though, the tiling is nicely done.
If they’ve been charged £50k for that kitchen they should contact the police.
I've worked on kitchens that are the size of that entire flat and even then with high end materials being used the bill was less then £25k
@Richard Fife I'll do it for 40k all in. Tell you what I'll do the neighbours while I'm there.
I laugh anytime an electrician says "absolutely shocking"
He's probably a switched on guy ,that's about as current a joke I can think of.(sorry).
@@raychambers3646 Go ohm, you're drunk.
I might be in capacitor tated, you cant me charge for it.
I only became a sparky because I was no good at the polevolt.(or jokes )by the way if you are going to charge me I will brace myself!cheers
Guys, stop before I blow my fuse. Watt are you doing?
Each and every pun is only amping up the amplitude of my reaction. One more joke and I'll snap in a hertz beat.
I should be unphased by these, but I just can't. If only I wasn't grounded...
I'm glad you made this video. It's a typical demonstration of what we're all seeing now.
Sadly it won't change until somebody starts slapping wrists with fines.
Fines ? This sort of thing should be jail time
Homeowner to contractor: "What about the electrical work?".
Contractor: "Oh yeah, we got a guy that knows how to do that stuff".
Thats why we use tubings in Switzerland so we can replace the cables if it's needed, without destroying the walls and the ceilings
While we also have that black ribbed tubing in the walls, you will never know what pain in the ass is to replace cable in one of those.
It is better for the wallet, but it is really frustrating, especially when a wire gets stuck somewhere and you have to fiddle with it.
@@lazar2175 you are obviously not using enough lube mate ;)
@@spaceeDolphin That may reduce the pain in the ass factor ;)
in sweden we use thoese as well but lets say so, if you haven`t pulled cables into it or replaced, you dont know how to install it.
Fuck yes. That's how it should be done
I used to install, troubleshoot, and repair fire alarm systems. The wiring jobs you would find sometimes were absolutely insane.
Lost for words well done mate keep up the good work
More joints than Bob Marleys ashtray
Eire 420 ... Lol.. yeah.. And more ash if it's not put right sooner rather than later..
🤣I'm nicking that one
"This installation is *shockingly* bad." .... hehe. First 10 seconds, I like.
The entire building industry is full of cowboys, plumbing, electrical... everything.
Ipx4 is basically the same as IP44 The 1st number is protection against solid materials and X just means that protection level not formally tested.
But i would always really suggest to the client to go with a ip65 fitting atleast just as a over protection.
Agree sometimes I’ll even go ip68 just to go beyond minimum requirements
Always nice to have a bit of slack on the kitchen sockets 😆
Hahahaha
Give you the option of moving socket on to the other wall, future proof 😂
😂🤣
@@miike_1m229 With that much slack you could move it to the next county!
I thought It was a fishing rod left inside by John Wayne
That's bloody disgusting. The moron that did that needs connecting to his own wiring. Electrical work is so easy to get right, it makes you wonder how so many people can get it so wrong. Keep up the good work buddy.
Used to be a spark. Love this channel and do not miss installs of this ilk!
Really love that extendable double socket. Class work.
I lived in Thailand for 20 years, so that's some of the best domestic electrical work i've seen in 2 decades, so conjure up an image of what i've seen done and then triple it, magnify it with your worst ideas and then it'll just tell you not to buy a property in Thailand! good luck but what i've found is that sometimes, the customer doesnt listen to people and just demands and folk with no ethics will just do the work. I once heard a fat australian in phuket demand that the electrician just twist and tape in a new piece of cable when a cable melted due to the aussie bloke having 3 houses bodge wired together on 1 electric meter all on 1 knife switch with a bullet fuse and this was after the electrician old him what really needed doing! i have nightmares about Thai wiring and that place looks just like them
Not to mention Thailand's overhead lines but oh God, they're so messy!
I can sympathize with you mate checking this job out. What a total bodge up.I am a retired electrician and mainly wired new houses. Always did the job right. Who ever did this work was not a proper electrician.
More than likely not a sparky. Just joe schmoe doin it for a pint. I'm an apprentice going on journeyman and I did a better job in my first year... wth
@@joshstrom2791 XD
Probably not even done the competent persons scheme.
Your a great guy to show the work has been done badly by the past builders
Brilliant video I’m an electrician myself and I see the same faults when I test old and new jobs.
Nobody wants to spend £3000 to £4000 for a rewire but will spend £1000’s on stuff they can see...always gets me angry like you
Couldn’t agree more, I am an electrician and see this too often. People don’t want to spend money on something they can’t see yet they use it every day. As long as it’s working they don’t care is the attitude I come across a lot.
I’m a roofer and the amounts of time people have there bathrooms done and things and spend thousands and thousands on upgrades marking there house look good and seem to forget that that roof keeps all that water out when it rains it then leaks all over there nice new bathroom and then they moan
I've made a lot of mistakes doing that..
God yeah! We had a bathroom upgrade all done to high specification and then there was a bad downfall and rain was coming through the ceiling!!!
That is one of the problems that is world wide, even here in Canada and I suspect the USA, as long as it "looks" pretty, don't care if it will leak, crack, fall apart or kill someone, just make it look pretty because as soon as the last of the "trades" are gone, the "For Sale" sign goes up. House flippers and the plethora of "skilled handymen" are the worst.
I am no electrician but that looks to me like a very good recipe for a warm and cosy bonfire... hehehehe
Obviously no good - no bell wire used!
What a mess glad your sorting 👍👍
Dear sir from a fellow sparkband tester.I agree with you totally that is one of the worst installs I've ever seen.a superb video sir well done.keep up the great work and videos.
That is shocking. And the scary thing is that it could potentially be exactly that. Zero earth, zero protection, zero fraqs given. On the face of it the install doesn't look too shabby, until you locate the hidden horrors. The builder should totally be held accountable for that. What a knob end.
I’m an electrician in the states and all this is super foreign to Me, but I absolutely love your passion for the trade, makes me think there’s still hope
I live in the States, and I'm not even an electrician and some of that work just looks shoddy at best, especially the uncovered wiring. That's a fire waiting to happen. Least they could do is wrap it in electrical tape.
I'm not a sparky but understand most of this stuff (bonding, wire gauges, IP ratings, MCB ratings, RCDs, switch ratings, rings,...) but I've looked at some US electrical vids too. Knew it was 110V, but what surprised me is that the 110V is actually a centre tap off the transformer and both halves are brought into the houses, so there is actually 220V available for heavy duty appliances like washing machines. The other interesting think to note is it's all single phase for residential in the UK, but in Germany, I've heard they do triple phase cookers and things.
@@andyonions7864 yeah in the states standard residential mains are considered 120/240 split-phased. BUT.... I have seen larger homes in New Orleans with 120/208 Delta high-leg before.
Wow,that is unbelievable 🤷♂️ rough AF!!
I am just amazed by the electrical installation my grandfather did 40 years ago when our house was built.. Nothing has ever failed plus the 3 phase cable that's running around the house can handle over 40KW at 240ac..
IP44 is IPX4 compliant. The X simply refers that the first number after IP can be any number. The last 4 is the important bit. That said, the whole installation is worse than most DIY jobs. I think the spark who did that went by the name of Stevie Wonder...
I wonder if a shower qualifies as a "water jet"?
First number refers to dust ingress, second is water ingress.
Ipx4 means the dust ingress is not required but has an ingress protection of 4 for water.
@@synony6 Yeah, but the "manual" showed X5 for a water jet so I was just wondering if a shower qualified as one. I'm leaning towards it not doing so.
@@thisnthat3530 Imo,with the lamp being that close to the shower head means it's possible for "water jets" to fly about. I think most people don't point their shower heads at the ceiling and much less at the light fixtures but hey,anything can happen...and it's still *possible* for it to happen to that light fixture. Agree?
Does any of that really matter when the fitting isn't earthed?
Poor customer really been screwed over, I've never seen a documented install this dangerous. Hopefully she allows you to make this safe for her own sake.
i don't think was screwed . sometimes clients are really cheap bastards and they find people to do the shit job ... i know someone that got fed up and made a job worthy of customer money (shit) and left a note for the inspector. inspector came, seen the note , laughed , writted off the work as not safe , customer had to pay for everithing redone again and at full price this time. money and time lost for client because the first guy was ''nice'' enough to meet client's expectation. cheap/fast/crappy job.
@@contytub if she had spent hundreds of thousands as he said on the flat.. she was clearly not cheap.
why screwed ? Hes the idiot who did not checked the work
Thanks for the entry phone tip. Can’t believe I’ve never thought of it haha
This gives me a stomach ache. Cheers trade brother, from Canada. 👍
60 Grand For that kitchen, what you on?, I think you're getting the decimal points mixed up 😂.
4k to rewire, no more than 1 weeks work
@@tombruton Exactly.
5k for the kitchen, 55k labour, that's what I charged them :)
If that much money has been spent on the flat, i'd get the painter back as well as the sparky.
He painted the floor aswell. 17:13
the guy that did that job, wasn't a 'sparky' by any stretch of the word.
come to that, she should also get the plasterer and carpenter/builder back. The whole job looks reasonable at first glance, but the closer you inspect, the more you find which could be done differently and better. She has been comprehensively ripped off.
Well done brilliant video.
Last job I did was exactly like this same situation and I said to the guy who hired me (lovely hard working and understanding dude) that the flat is a shit show and it needs a total rewire. He said yeah, whatever it needs, especially since he would be renting.
So to save cost he helped me and we did it over weekends. We rewired every single socket, every light, added what was needed and when I say rewire, I mean we literally took it back to the main fuse and earth. New DB, then wired it all as if it were a brand new build from scratch. We even fitted bath gadgets, inductive cooker etc and in the end I’d say the flat is state of the art and with his help I think it cost him around £500/600 (maybe a little more- excluding materials).
But in a job like this you are right mate, nothing to do but a full rewire. I said it straight up to the customer when I had a look- we had to raggle walls back to concrete and everything but in the end it’s the only proper way to do things.
One thing I’d always advise is do what I tried, then leave lots of spare cable inside the cavities available for future sparks.
Also added junction boxes for lights etc where possible.
We took that place from fuse wire and disaster, to split 12 way DB with dual RCD. Not heard of a problem since. All the testing was well in line too. Sometimes the hard way is the right way.
A lot of domestic customers don't understand what's right and wrong. They think that because it works it's safe
David... they shouldn't HAVE to understand... thats what regulations & qualifications are for.
The owner here expects the job to be done properly & doesn't expect to have to get an EICR after completion,
its supposed to be signed-off on by an ELECTRICIAN !!
We all are in a position where we must put our trust in professionals such
as doctors, plumbers, electricians, solicitors etc... its what we all pay for...
I cannot believe for one moment that this client said to the builder "use cowboys & save me some money"....
that never happened, this builder needs to be prosecuted AND shut down permanently....
Shocking. A case for Trading Standards, although no doubt she won't want the hassle. Such a pain in the arse when people throw money at the final finishes, but scrimp on the infrastructure behind it. It winds me up when people tell me they've got the plasterer or tiler booked for next Wednesday when first fix isn't finished and signed off. They want the shiny stuff to go in and look good and don't care about the things they can't see, especially if things appear to be working under normal conditions (never mind if it's dangerous in the event of a fault). It's one of those jobs you probably wouldn't want to win for the remedials. Always hard work to un-cock something that's been so extensively cocked-up!
not everyone can afford it all. and some will take the risk, it's human nature.
Trading standards won't care less, and they won't get involved in disputes.
Very little stopping a cowboy workman these days,
@@brendanoneil3489 I'm glad they are much more gung ho in Australia.
usually...
Haha un-cock. True
That flat is a time bomb. He has a responsibility not only to the client who was paying the bill, but other tenants who`s lives he was putting in danger by his incompetence.
we got the very same issue in south africa as well.... builders tell the client they can do everything, electrical, gas, plumbing, etc but they do not have 1 qualified person in their business
Pretty bad but I've seen worse!
I recently went through a flat in Austria, built in 1914, partly re-wired in 1991. Ended up being a full rewire including the 1991 parts.
Apparently before WWII the regs allowed for single-insulated singles to be run in plaster without conduit and some folks continued that practice well into the 1950s, so that's what we found. Minimum cross-sectional area for fixed wiring was 1 mm2 back in the day of rubber and fabric covered wires, 1.5 mm2 later (I'm not quite sure about the timeline, the German 1938 regs that came with the occupation certainly specified 1.5 mm2 copper or 2.5 mm2 aluminium and they were in essentially in effect until 1962). What we actually found was 0.5 mm2 doorbell wire supplying lights and sockets in some spots! The original circuit had probably been 4 or 6 amp but the 1991 sparks connected it to a 10 amp MCB and when that failed, someone swapped the wires to a spare 16 amp. That doorbell wire bodge job was apparently done in 1960 judging by the newspapers they'd stuffed into some of the holes before plastering. They couldn't be bothered to use continuous pieces of wire either, there were some runs as short as 30 cm that were two pieces of wire spliced together inside the wall!
Then there must've been another round of wiring additions, oddly enough using Italian accessories in tiny little back boxes (20x50 mm, 35 mm deep). That was all done in 0.5 and 0.75 mm2 twin flex plastered in, usually taking the craziest routes through the walls. Like, why spur off a socket 50 cm off to the side from where you want a new one if you can run some 5 m of flex through two rooms, destroying a whole lot of wallpaper and plaster in that process?
Or, if you want to change a ceiling light from a single-gang to a double-gang switch by adding a second switched line, why bother pulling wires through the existing conduit if you can trench halfway across a plaster & lath ceiling?
The chaps back in 91 disconnected all the Italian extensions but left much of the older stuff in place. I'm fairly sure in one instance they even ripped out some perfectly fine 1.5 mm2 cable, replacing it with new that was connected to doorbell wire, just because they couldn't be bothered to find either of the two junction boxes nearby. These didn't even have covers on, just wallpaper! If they'd found the box the old 1.5 mm2 went to, they'd even have found an earth! None of the existing work, except the kitchen sockets, was earthed, all the sockets were the classic round-pin type with no earth (legal for new installations until 1958). The basic idea was that in a room without any earthed pipes etc. you couldn't receive a fatal shock, even if you touched an exposed live wire so that's why those sockets were considered acceptable (some countries kept that system much longer, Sweden until 1993!). In 1991 the sparks ran exposed earth wires to all the sockets to keep up with then-current regs but didn't do a great job either.
You could of pulled that socket cable and took it back to the consumer and make a ring circuit lol
I really Love the 50 k extension lead wall socket. That’s a must in all kitchens 😵🤭
After I watch one like this, I watch one with immaculate bends and planned projects as to remember that real OCD "do it right" electricians are still out there.💪
Strange but absolutely entertaining, if I didn't laugh i think I'd cry
"Going off on a tandem!" lol.
my own wiring looks extremely neat in comparison lol what a madman
It's always the ones you least expect to be bad that are, it's a horrible feeling if the more you dig you more depressing it becomes, of course, the person responsible gets off scot-free when they should not be allowed to work on Electrical systems ever again.
I would have loved seeing the owner's reaction to this report.
How can these people sleep at night?
Outrageous.
Feel for the owner of the place.
She's got the right man to sort it though.
Good luck fella.
Great video, it’s all to common. Arrive to install an extra socket or lighting unit. Pre-work survey, no bonds, recent works, speak to the client, EICR performed & it’s horrendous. I have a few times over my career stopped in the middle of a report, consulted with the client, charged the client a nominal fee & told the client to obtain quotations for rewiring. Basically there was no point wasting my time writing up a report, where there so many defects, taking the age & condition of the installation, it would be more economical & safe to just rewire the property. I always recommend that the client takes further advice if the property is decorated to a high standard. It’s also nice to see an electrician completing the inspection process, which I see very few electricians doing considering the money they get for a report. It tends to just be testing. I charge a days rate for an EICR, so it can be done properly.
Looks like they had "uncle Jamal" in on that job! 😂😂😂
(5:56) - Can I come with you on your tandem or have you already got someone for the back seat?
Or perhaps you meant *_"going off on a tangent",_* in which case, I don't think there is a second seat.
Or is there?
hahahha
I am a retired research professor. I've worked in laboratories wired this badly. Scary.
What is even worse is when the sparkies come in, do a repair on another part of the building, and your equipment stops working. Motors running backwards, one phase dropped on a three phase line, and so forth. Radio frequency signals on the lines, and other insane things. Good luck cleaning up the mess!
I have seen some horrible work myself, however I believe this tops most!
7:49 I see she went with a built in deluxe counter top extention socket. 😂
16:10 Metal fitting but "double insulated" according to the label.
I'd say it's IP20 and not double insulated at all!
Enjoying your channel! I encounter many nightmares in my own line of low-voltage work and I know enough about electrical codes in my country (Western Canada) where its easy to spot shoddy work. I'm not sure how your channel popped up in my feed (I'm having to look up all the UK nomenclature) but I'll doff the proverbial to the algorithm and count me as a subscriber.
Looks like the plumber did some great brazing as well.
@6 minutes “Im just going off on a Tandem”. Love it
Ha! I noticed that too.
It's 'tangent', Chris... not 'tandem'; that's a two person bicycle. 🤣
👍 not the first one to say it 👍
@@Cjrelectrical well anyway 'its a hard bubble to crack.'
Such a lot of work to do there. You will have to 'burn the midnight oil at both ends' to get it all done.
When you told the customer about all this did it seem like you were 'pulling the rug from under the carpet' ?
😂
@@Cjrelectrical i think you maybe though lol . who did this mess name shame .
@@richardwalsh5882 true dat!
50/60 thousand on that kitchen..... yeah right
Yeah, there is no way that is a 60k kitchen...
He also said 4 grand for a rewire!! It's only a flat!
@@samsamm777 I think it's because you would need to rip everything apart.
50k kitchen with plastic socket fronts and the boiler on show. as if haha.
10k max
When the art of condemning other people's work is far more lucrative than actually doing the work...😂😂😂😂😂😂 Well done pal very good criticism🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
We(more the mrs) have just had a new kitchen fited, the builder has 40 yrs of experience, he knows my background (mech eng), we had lots of quotes. His was the highest, we saw gallery pics of his previous work and we hired him. So glad we did, the old adage, you get what you pay for, bu we cannot recommend our builder enough, he showed me the isolation for the induction hob etc..top class job and so professional.
7:49 brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "extension socket" :-|
Regarding the lamp in the bathroom. If IPX4 is required then IP44 should be ok right since the IPX4 dont care about solid object ingression. :)
Regardless of the IP rating it's not suitable. Although in terms of an EICR, if ceiling height is above 2.25M (which it probably is) its outside of all zones
@@londontrada He measured the distance and it was only 2.1m to the ceiling, this means the fixture is in zone 1.
@@thomasbonse ah, well there you are.
He clearly said the fitting was in zone 1 and required an ipx4 which the fitting was an ip44 which means the fitting itself is fine
Who cares about the IP rating, the bloodly thing had no earth!
Even as a competent DIYer, that looks like an absolute state. Makes me wince just looking at it. Even the absolute basics haven’t been followed. I would be taking the builder to court over this.
Your channel makes me laugh, I'm in construction and will occasionally do a like for like change, but every builder should know a sparks lol.
Thats absolutely shocking, personally think the builder should be traced back and aired to trading standards. Poor woman had no clue what she was getting herself into
Rogue Traders for who ever carried out work to the electrics in this property. Shocking work.
Deffo needs the client to report the trader (the builder) to trading standards!
i feel so bad for this poor woman!!
Ryan Literally shocking work.
" Poor woman" ???? She is an ADULT. Do we expect absolutely no responsibility from women? It's her own fault she only hired workers to make it look pretty.
at 16:00
IPX4 and IP44 are equivalent. IPX4 means IP(anything)4. The first number is irrelevant as it denotes dust resistance, the second number is the water resistance.
So there is nothing to "add to the list" there.
Yeah, was all good until that bit..
@@user-ul5gi9yw9t The light is IP44, but it doesn't look appropriate in my eyes for a bathroom, not typical for a bathroom, also, do you trust some unbranded kit with their IP ratings.
@@davidprivate5786 It's DAR lighting, not unbranded. Said it was good when in the kitchen
We built our own house in Switzerland and comparing this to our electrical installation makes it even funnier. Our fusebox, for instance, is like one by two meters big and every room is fused separately. The security standards here are crazy and that's why something like this could literally never happen here.
Swiss plugs are unfused though, unlike in the U.K.
Would explain the size difference in units you see
oh man you should have come to tunisia (worked there for a year as a S&L tech) they could do so much worse that this. for example i can remember them putting in lights by cutting open some of my speaker cable (4 core) and using the two unused ones for mains because they couldn't be bothered with an earth connection or to run new cables 😂
Crazy init. These people don't realise how wiring like that can potentially burn their houses to the ground or kill them under fault conditions. Proper earthing can save lives. Genuinely shocked!! Like you said you don't need to be a qualified sparky to see it's wrong, most builder contractors know what good cabling looks like. I think people underestimate the importance of electrical safety. I mean you have a gas leak, you don't get the guy down the road to bodge it back. You are more likely these days to have an electrical fire than a gas explosion. Shame you can't find the guys name and shame him watchdog style. Well done getting the message across
In Europe it’s earthing? I thought the universal way of saying it was grounding/grounded. Earthing sounds more like planting something like a tree.
@@cipher1167 It is earthing, Electrician speak. I'm an electrical engineer so grounding. It's weird. Both technically can mean the same thing but not to get into it, There is Earthing, witch is domestic earth. Grounding can be sub-grounding. So you have earth but you also have sub grounds in a circuit. It was Earthing I meant though. Earthing is the correct term
@@cipher1167 Grounding can just mean common place, common ground. A car has negative ground, It just means the negative is connected to the cars shell. This is grounding, it's not earthed obviously, rubber tyres. Earthing specifically means a rod in the ground to decrease Earth resistance over your bodies resistance thus current going to earth instead of you. Your body them becomes a resistive load to earth, not enough current flowing through you to kill as there is a faster, less resistive route to earth for the current to take.
@@cipher1167 Okay a better explanation. I'll leave my last comments as they kind of are relevant but this is a definitive answer for clarity. In an electronic circuit you come in generally to a power supply, say in this case it's a 24 volt transformer with a center tap. The primary would be connected to mains, 110/230 VAC The casing and chassis will be earthed to domestic earth. now in circuit on the secondary we have a choice of what we call ground reference, this can be -12V to give 24V or center tap ground to give +12 and -12V this gives the circuit a ground reference. What ever the ground primary ground reference is usually bonded to earth. Earth and ground can mean different things in this case. On domestic supply it's taken earth and ground can mean the same thing. Earth is usually ground bonded to gas, water and domestic earth. The house technically being a circuit of it's own we say earth is grounded to pipes etc. So Earth being the planet, Earth is ground to the planet if that makes sense.
Andrew Lock I understand what you’re saying, and it makes sense to people that know about electrical theory. However, in the USA we only use grounding/grounded I’m on my 3rd year apprentice and I haven’t heard anyone say earthing in residential, industrial or commercial. Most likely Earthing is an old way of saying it? Like that was the most comprehensive way people could understand in the early stages of electrical theory? Now I know if I go to Europe what earthing is. Thank you man.
This industry is littered with people “just giving it a go”. It’s obvious the fitter is untrained. The bonding shows that. What a mess.
You guys have good electrical standards.
Im am starting my domestic installer course soon and this vid gives me an idea of what not to do lol
I'm no electrician, but I just had to watch the thumbnail, and I was already horrified.
One look and I would have walked away!
More hassle than anything‼️
Aren't these jobs inspected at all during work being done?
It's interesting to watch your videos as well as some others. I think standards have gone way down here (USA) also. My parents' home was built in 1957 and wired exclusively with EMT (thinwall metallic conduit). That takes some advance planning as you're somewhat restricted with your runs (every bend has to be done with a conduit bender). Outdoor wiring was galvanized pipe. But the electrical workers' union was very strong back then.
On the other hand, I visited my dentist who's having his office reworked. This has been going on for over a year--crap wiring, workers not showing up--it makes you wonder. He says that the excuse is that it's nearly impossible to find good talent nowadays.
i was under the assumption that the bathroom light fitting doesnt require an earth as it is double insulated ? as indicated by the 2 squares on the label?
Don't those remodels require a building code inspection by the local township or city? I'd bet the owner could get all of their money back if the work was done outside code regulations.
Just for new homes not remodels
There's no legal requirement to tell the authorities you are having electrical work done and they probably wouldn't have the qualified staff and resources to carry out these inspections. Many homes are death traps but of course it will never happen to them.
She needs to request builder to rectify all, if he refuses, then start small claims case for cost.
I was expecting hidden cameras, ref for TV program.
no, no small claims is not enough for that kind of danger you can go directly to the high court for anything over £1000 don't fucking mess with county court they are useless. in this case there is more than material damages for the cost of replacing the wiring you have to include that the property was put at risk of fire and any occupants safety was put at risk
They'll just declare bankruptcy and get a new person to run the company. A shit company we last had problems with it was the blokes wife officially in charge because the last time he got taken to court he declared bankruptcy. You won't get a penny back from them.
keep up the good work mate
Name and shame the builders if the client knows there name. Another great video Chris.
Chris, any chance you can let us know what happened what the tennant said etc?
James Foley I’ve got to quote for a full Rewire etc
@James Foley i she wants him to send her a quote for a full chased in Rewire, new consumer unit, rest of the ceilings batten down and over boarded.
Wow poor woman, but it’s got to be done. Needs some sort of reimbursement from the builder. I’ve see some installs in my time but this has got to be the worst, absolute polished turd!
@@James_scott86, you can't polish a turd, only roll it in glitter! 😉
14.48 the name of the screws your after are 2BAs. God I'm old.
What also screws in there nicely are No 8 screws. I never use it as an earth though, just for holding lights up.
Pyro does last a very long time and I've had to use existing bits in the past (even though it wasn't my choice). But it much rather put new cable in anyday.
I have seen worse wiring but the shocking thing with this is it is everything!
All looks good, part P qualification working well Bodge It And Scarper Builders INC. Read it and weep this happens all the time and there is nothing anyone can do about it. You can have all the rules and regulations you want, but when they are ignored and then not enforced what is a person supposed to do! The best thing you can do in this situation is to make out the certificate as unsatisfactory and call the supply company and have the supply disconnected for safety as the installation is in such a bad state it could cause death by electrocution and or a catastrophic fire
I messaged Chris the other day on Instagram, I think it'd be good if he set up and email address just so people of the trade can send him good/bad jobs. He could then do a series on here where he reacts to them? Anyone else think it'd be a good and different series?
He’d have a lot of material!!
DaC27 96 thecjrshop@gmail.com
Thanks for listening mate! Look forward to it
Top idea mate! Be very interesting to see.
We could also have one showcasing our top work, mind you it will take a while getting though my back catalogue
Bloody hell, you know he's bad when he couldn't even put a grommet on the back box!
“Going off on a tandem” please dont fall off! 😭
Love the vids Chris, why would a missing earth cause 170v between line and neutral tho?
Because the right person costs more than the "wrong" person, all down to money.
Not really, "wrong" people cost pretty much the same. It's actually a problem of finding proper technicians to do that kind of job, it's not like going to the shop and selecting a thing - until someone tells you that this particular person does good job or not, you really don't know.
wow i was surprised when you found 167V at that socket that means with the full line voltage at 247v there is an 80V drop that is a serious fire hazard i hope you told this lady its a tinder box
daniel little it’ll be a poorly terminated neutral
2 ba me old son, I used to dred old installs like this in flats re-furbished by " yea no probs we can do all that love"
Hi guy, I see you have the usual helpful comments from the quality service providers, just one question when you say mineral insulated cable do you mean what I would call PYRO? I find it interesting that that would have been used on a domestic install even 40 years ago? well maybe more worrying than interesting. keep up the good work its a great job if you can stand the constant pointless changes in practice, you remember rip out the metal C.U.s cause they are dangerous, must have plastic, no sooner done then, rip out the plastic and replace with metal so they don't catch fire! I remember a song by Flanders and Swann from years ago the chorus was "It all makes work for the working man to do" I am retired now because I am to old to get insurance even though I was up to edition and had completed and passed the inspection and test . even better the water board and gas board all supply in plastic so why is there even more obsession with bonding? good luck. and keep smiling
Cowboy electrician that is bad workmanship and needs to be accountable for is actions