Very nice job!! Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to share your video with us here on RUclips. Looks like it would make a great off grid tiny house or guest house instead of storage.
I understand that but, when I saw the video I could see a kitchen, living room and bedroom plus bathroom. I also saw a small home for elderly parents too.
You are extremely good A lot of people talk that talk but they cannot walk that talk but you walk your talk you are super good and what you do I don't know you from Adam to Eve but all I have to say I'm glad to see somebody with a good knowledge to do it themselves you look like the type of guy when you get old you were past all that knowledge to your kids One Love.
if you put 4×4's 4ft. apart underneath, cemented in and secured with large lag bolts at the top of each 4×4, directly at each corner and ajoining 2×4's across, the wooden structure will be able to hold and the foundation will be entirely sure without any issues of weight-bearing, on floors.
Beautiful job man. I'm building my own little barn. It is much simpler than yours, but I've never done something like this before so it's taking a good amount of time. I started six months ago and I only have a floor and three walls built. You def have some real ability!
Good job, looks nice. I built a 16x24 barn type 2 story garage about 3 years ago all by myself. Basically looks the same as your. But I did a few things different. For example my foundation, I used 6x16x8 cement blocks. I dug a trench the dimension of the garage 8" deep. Packed in 1" of gravel. Then I set 1 layer of the block in the trench. I pounded in every hole in the blocks a 3' peice of rebar. Then filled all the holes with cement. When I did that I also installed some bolts so I could attach the 2x6 bottom plate to the foundation. Cause I built the whole bottom floor with 2x6s . Then inside those blocks, for the garage floor I installed 12x12 cement pavers so I can drive on it. For the garage door I built 2, six foot swinging doors and and attached a garage door opener to them. It's pretty cool if I say so myself. Then the walk thru door I installed 2' back from the garage door so not to waste the whole wall. I wanted as much wall space as I could get. So I can still pull my truck in there. So I installed my stairs outside on the back 16' wall and built a 10'x6' deck with a 6' high fence around it. And installed a door for the second story. I used 2x12x16 floor joists for the upstairs floor. For the trusses I used gussets at the intersecting points. And for added support I added 2x2x6 peices attached inside the trusses from the top pitch to the side pitch of the roof. It took me about 5 months every day after work and every weekend. The best part is it saved me all kinds of money. I built the entire garage for $9800.00. The cheapest bid I got was $69000.00. But that would have been all up to code. Anyway enjoy and take care.
I did a somewhat similar upstairs deviation from the norm to add ceiling height in a garage I built for my father back in the 90's. I balloon framed it with a steel beam in the center due to span and width, but the balloon framing allows for added height upstairs...did the same on my brother in law's garage. Smart decision on your part...nothing worse than crouching in a storage area when you can elevate and make it actual useful for more than storage as you have done! Good job.
Nice job! I built my recording studio back in my music days, and I built my shop at my Mt. Cabin which turned out to be my first wood working video for youtube. And like you, I did all of it by my self except for the siding which was 4 x 8 siding and my son helped me with it on the studio, but I actually figured out a way to do even that by myself on the shop by using cleats screwed to the outside floor joists and just setting the siding on it until I could get a couple screws in it. All my ceilings etc in the studio I did with a lift I rented. My shop does not have a finished out ceiling, just a metal roof with exposed rafters and purlins so I did not need the lift there. My shop is also built on a much steeper slope than yours, but I made a grid of my joists and put in several supports in the corners that the grid formed in several places and I dug a 6" hole about a foot and a half deep that the supports went down into and then I poured concrete into that. I think there were about 20 of those. Took a while but It does not budge lol! But you did quite a good job with your build. I relate!
OUTSTANDING, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. MY HUSBAND AND I BUILT LIKE THAT BUT ONLY 1 STORY. LOOKS GREAT!!! START STORING FOOD AND WATER NOW FOR YOUR FAMILY!!!
Only someone who has done something like this can understand the feeling. Great job!!! Suggestions moving forward would be to use 10/3 UG wire from 30 amp house to 20 amp shed due to the run. Otherwise you will be tripping in the house on a hard draw like a compressor start while using other stuff in the shed. The 10/3 will allow you two 110 circuits. ........... Again, fine job.
Happy I came across this video I'm getting ready to build a 16x26 shed similar to what you have. Thanks for posting a video. Since this was three years ago I'll check to see if you have updated vids on the finished product. 👍
, garage, workshop, storage on first floor, apartment on second floor, all in one building, perfect. especially in colder weather, pull inside, go upstairs, without going outside, perfect !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice build. Like the height in the upper level. One thing you should take into consideration is the tree by the front door. Those pesky things have a habit of growing over time. I watched one, over time, push over a 1.5 foot square, concrete and stone fence pillar.
I am not in the construction industry nor am I a carpenter, I wanted a good guide to help with small projects such as small sheds and some remodeling around the house. So there’s a magic which is Shed Plan [ visit here *WoodBlueprints. Com* ]. This Shed Plan covers all my instructions from top to bottom in a step by step manner.
Sadly, I live in an area where city ordinances prohibit structures of that size. The largest i could build was 8x12 using the barn style roof similar to yours. Mine is simple storage. If had one like yours it would be dedicated to my full wood shop, now in 1/2 of my garage. I must move tools for each job. In your shed everything would be permanently set in place...it would be wonderful. Nicely done sir.
very nice,You've definitely swung a hammer before,looks like a professional job. I'm building a shop soon and am going to go big too.Barn roof looks nice, good job on the shingles
Beautiful! Would love to have one similar but with the walk in door opposite side. Looking forward to seeing it when you have all your tools, etc. and insulation done.
I love it man. Thank you for sharing. I've been wanting to do something very similar to this for some time now. This video is my inspiration to start this weekend. lol. Thanks again!
Keep meaning to, just been so busy with work and kids... Want to put out a compilation of photos and videos of when I built it... want to put out a what I would do differently if I built it again ...and also want to put out a "what it looks like now" video. Sneak peak, I have added insulation and a Minisplit heat pump... the first floor is more of a workshop and the kids have taken over the 2nd floor with a hangout place. I used plywood instead of drywall to close in the walls and keep a workshop/shed feeling. Thanks for the interest, I will try to get something out this summer (on vacation most of July right now).
This is pretty much exactly what I'm looking to build. Did you generate the plans for this shed or purchase? If you generated, how hard was it to get cleared with the city/county? Also if you don't mind saying, what was the approximate total build cost?
That would be fabulous for an art studio and the second floor I would have done it a bit higher as well as first floor for example instead of 9' a would go for 11' It is a very nice building indeed CONGRATULATION and enjoy it
Super nice shed though your french drain won't prevent surface water from entering the area under the shed. French drains are designed to move away water that stands in a location, not to deflect surface water. You'd need to build a swale to divert the surface water.
How is the floor engineered? Concrete piers or just on blocks? Spacing on the supports? What size lumber for floor joists and spacing, etc.? How has it held up? Given you put in a garage door, I would assume you have stored heavy equipment in there?
I am planning building something similar but with a skillion roof. Then attach another lean to shed 9x32 to the high side increasing square feet by 288 to 800 sqft total. Use it for retirement home.
I really want to spray foam our basement before I finish it, haven't decided if I will pay someone to do it or try to tackle it myself (that is my next project after the shed) ...never thought of foaming the shed for insulation... good suggestion, thanks.
(Just a suggestion) Instead of gutters put a strip of aluminum above the door to deflect the water away from the doorway and don't put gutters on the rest of the shed. That way you don't have to clean out the gutters. looks like you have a lot of trees. put a little gravel on the ground where the gutters drip.
Just a question if you are worried about the building moving down the slope (slipage as you say) why didnt you pour footings for the building to sit on?
I should have... one of the things I list that I wish I would have done differently is to pour a proper foundation. But with that said, the land is very stable (lots of sandstone, just below the surface) so even without a foundation it should be okay. The extra rocks should slow down the rain from washing away the dirt I piled up around the concrete blocks. ...but again, if I had to do it again, I would have poured a proper foundation.
Sorry if I sounded crass with my comment. I didn't know if there was a reason for it. I am building a small cabin myself and going to put it on blocks. I was asking so if there was a mistake I didn't make it also. thanks for the reply!
not crass at all, this is one of the more common comments (and rightly so). if you put it on blocks, put it high enough to be able to work under (be able to go under and jack it up if/when it starts to settle)... this will also allow more air under and prevent rot. I already jacked up my shed and put 2 more sets of blocks (so 8 inches higher).
Ryan what did the shed cost to build ? Your a wonderful carpenter. I want in my yard to live in and rent out my big house. Did you need a building permit or zoning issues ? Do you have to pay taxes on the shed.
Most of the two story barn style sheds I researched were around $10,000 and up. The most expensive are already built and delivered on site. A little less expensive are kits where everything is measured, cut and you get instructions. The cheapest way is going with your own plans, purchasing the lumber, measuring and building yourself from scratch. Building permits and zoning laws are different in every township/city.
@@usnva5638 I just saw one on RUclips cheaper then that, from $3,000.00 some odd, and it was a 10×21 or 24. You pick the building and they come out and build it.
I'd build a retaining wall off the back then back-fill it with soil to keep your crushed rock in place and prevent anything from washing down the hillside.
who paid for this shed the home center? it looks like an ad for the do it yourselfer, this is nice enough to live in. i like the hurricane clips upstairs.
What are the pitches of the roof?. How far do the eaves / soffit overhang? Garage door looks to be 8'x8' in the video, what is the actual size? By now I've looked at hundreds of buildings on line, yours is the closest to what I'd like to build for my needs. I like the soffit that's wide enough for ventilation and both stories are full height. I'm just fine with the wall braces upstairs, I'd intend to use upstairs for storage anyway. We live in NW FL; wind can be a problem. It looks like this design would stand up to wind. We bought a house recently that doesn't have a big shed/storage. At my last place I easily filled up a 16x20 that a local company built and set up on the lot. I also had a 10x14 tin building (Arrow) that kept the lawn tractor and mower/s. Filled it up too. Yours is 1024 sq. ft on a 16x32 foot print. I'd be excited to begin, finish and use something like this. BTW I ran a 240V 4 wire 60Amp service to my last shed/shop. That way I had enough for air compressor and big table saw; with 240 you can also have hot water if desired.
The roof is a perfect half octagon so all 4 rafter pieces are are the same length (73.5 inches long... if i remember correctly) and 22.5 degree angles cuts. Then the overhangs can be any length (I think I used ~18inches, maybe even 20"). Raising the roof with the mini-wall weakened the structure making the braces necessary. You can make a stronger roof by not adding a mini wall and changing the shape of the roof so that the lower sides are longer and steeper and the top part of the roof is flatter... which would change the angles and lengths so just play around with the math to do this. I had already made all the roof rafters then decided I wanted the 2nd story to be taller so I had to add the miniwall and braces to achieve this. Yes the garage door is 8x8 (best price was at Menards (not sure if you have those down in Florida... but cheaper then lowes and home depot. If I had to do it again, i would put the front door on the same wall as the garage door... this frees up a wall. My biggest "if i did it over again" wish is that i went ahead and put a better foundation in.. the blocks are holding level but eventually they will settle and I will to jack up the shed and put extra wood to re-level. Also, if you live in a windy place even more reason not to use blocks. The shed gets really hot in the summer so do yourself a favor and go with 2x6 instead of 2x4 for the walls and rafters to give yourself more space for more insulation against the hot roof. Keep in mind the bigger you go the harder it is to heat/cool... but you already have experience with your other shed so you likely know better than I do how to deal with the heat. For shed plans, you can go online and find some really cheep shed plans (can find some for ~$10) places like cheepsheds.com ...this will give you a good starting spot to base you shed on then you can deviate from there and make it however you want but nice to have some sort of plans for reference. The particular website I mentioned has a good outline of how to make the roof rafters using OSB gussets... I found that 16' wide is about as wide as I could go by doing it myself, any wider would have required more help. I still need to run electric so thanks for the tip on what you ran (240v 4 wire 60 service). Even though it took me a while, I very much enjoyed building the shed. ...good luck with your build!
Yes, I put 2" Extruded Polystyrene (XPS) Rigid Foam Insulation under the floor as I installed it... there are a few videos from others on youtube about how to do this. Works well, glad I did it
I started with the "tall barn style shed plans" from a website called cheapsheds.com then modified from there. I think the plans were only about $10 but well worth it to get you started. If you modify like i did, it will cause a structural problem and you will have to add the bracing in like I did.
Very nice building and video. Where did you obtain plans for the building (especially the roof and the structure for the 19” wall and roof on the second story)?
This shed has no official plan. I started by buying a basic shed plan for ~$10 online by googling "cheap shed plans". Then looked at various plans online and on youtube to get ideas and came up with this shed. I would not recommend using my idea for the 2nd floor 19" mini-wall since it created a weak structure causing me to have to add the "ugly" braces to save the structure. Instead I suggest either making it like a pole barn (using long poles that span the 1st and 2nd story walls instead of stacking the 2nd story mini-wall on top of the 1st story) or changing the roof shape so that the first part of the roof connects directly to the 2nd story base, is more vertically pitched, and is longer so that the roof itself acts like a 2nd story wall. ...But if you don't mind the braces and/or add interior walls inside the shed, the mini-wall works fine.
Nice shed. Btw, if you are going to insulate the roof, then you didn't need the soffit/ridge vents. The attic should be either insulated or vented, not both?
The way I was thinking about it is since the attic is cut open (with a large stairwell and windows) it is really no longer an attic but a 2nd story and that makes the ceiling more like a cathedral type ceiling. when i look at videos on insulating cathedral ceiling many of them use venting and insulation ...soffit vents, small air gap make with plastic or Styrofoam (covered by insulation) and then a ridge vent. As it is now the 2nd story gets way to hot in the summer so I feel like i need to do something. I haven't worked on the shed since I posted in November but when I start up again in a month or two I will have to address this so your advice/input is much appreciated.
I have a couple questions, assuming this is the same exact shed I have been looking at, at home depot, how sturdy is the "loft"? Also, the building aspect, with the kit provided, does the stairs have to back that specific wall? I was hoping to back the bottom stairs against the 16ft wall and the upper part against the 32ft wall.
Not a kit, bought all materials slowly over time as I built the shed. The 2nd floor is made of 2"x10"x16ft #1 southern yellow pine spaced at 16" OC.... the walls and rafters and first story floor is all 16" OC. I have no idea what the Home Depot shed specification are but the 2x10's I used were rated to span 16Ft for a residential room (but remember that is with #1 SYP ..other wood types will vary on rating). If you search the web for wood types and span ratings, you can find charts for this topic.
Awesome! Thank you! The Home Depot one is built with 2x8 with 24" OC. Definitely would not be as sturdy in my opinion. I am leaning toward buying my own materials as well after looking closer into the details of provided. Thank you. Wonderful work by the way!
Holy crap 2x4 rafters on a 16' wall to wall distance 8' span. With a gambrel roof you should have upped it to 2x6. As long as the city/county considers it a storage shed you're ok. If you make it into an apartment/dwelling later, that will probably never pass code.
Hi Max, I followed the plans for the gambrel roof from a website that sells shed plans and according to their plans they go up to this size (16') with 2x4 rafters. I also ran the plans by an architect and a building inspector and neither had a problem with it. Do you know for sure this is not enough support or do you just personally think it is not enough support? I am still learning so always appreciate when people point out if I have done something wrong.
Ed List From what I've read in rafter span tables southern yellow pine. (what's available where I live) Is ok for up to 10 foot span (20 foot wall to wall) with l/180 deflection 10-20 loads, but I live in the south with no snow load. Even though it's safe by the books all of the older (50 years plus) houses and sheds I've seen built with 2x4 rafters are still standing but the roof bends and deflects if you have to climb up on them for repairs. Double laying shingles in the future would also be out of the question because the roof couldn't hold the extra weight plus any wind or snow load. Let me reassure you that all storage sheds here (upstate SC) are built with 2x4 rafters as well, I just personally think it's pushing the limits. If it was approved by an engineer and inspector in your area you should be fine. Everything is relative, you must live in an area with even less snow load than me or lower wind loads. The shed looks great though I'm planning one myself.
really nice job! i have 2 questions for you, 1. do you find the floor sturdy enough with the 2x10x16s for that span? would you go the same route if you had to do it again? and 2. if you dont mind me asking how much did this run you? im gonna build a 16x20 so not as big, but just trying to get an idea of how much,any input is appreciated....oh and did you have a print or just go off the top of your head
1) Yes, very sturdy... Each wood has its own rating and each grade of wood has its own rating so you'll need to look up what you want to use. For mine, I looked up the span ratings on the web and for #1 Southern Yellow Pine at (40 PSF LIVE LOAD, 10 PSF DEAD LOAD, 360 DEFLECTION) ...and #1 SYP 2x10 can span 16'-1". If I recall correctly this was good enough for a typical residential bedroom so plenty strong for my shed. Now if you want to store things heavier than a typical bedroom rating (like an large aquarium or hot tub), you will need to upgrade. 2) No I don't mind telling you the cost (this is a very important question)... so far I have spent ~13K (what you see in the video).
nice vid! this would be a perfect platform to off grid with a tiny/temp living space. was it hard to get zoning/permits from your local municipality? did it add to your property taxes too, having another structure on the property? thanks Ed! this has 12 more sq ft than my current home lol.
For my city it was easy, I just contacted the city (I think it was code enforcement) and asked what I needed... all they needed from me was for me to provide a rough property map showing my property with location of my house and the proposed location of the shed and a $50 fee ...about 2 weeks later I got the okay and a building permit to build the shed. I think the main concerns were % of land the building would take up and how close it was to my neighbor's property. Keep in mind that this was to build a storage shed, so if I asked to build a dwelling, I would think that there would be different regulations. I haven't received any increase in property tax yet, but I can imagine that it will happen.
You shouldn't have an increase in your taxes for a "portable" building. Did you build it on a permanent foundation? if so then yes your taxes will go up.
Replying super late, but this is a class "S" building, meaning its only permitted for storage. You are talking about "living space". If no one finds out you're living in it, its no problem. If someone does find out, the government can request you get it up to code which will be hugely expensive as this isn't built to the very specific requirements about how the foundation is built, the roof attached, etc. If you can't get it to code, you'd think the government would just say "don't let us catch you living in it again", but often they just end up demolishing it instead to be sure. That can be a REALLY expensive learning curve. All said and done, its more economical, especially if you want to hook it up to plumbing/electric is to just get a smaller prefab home for a guesthouse/in-law house on your property.
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Very nice job!! Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to share your video with us here on RUclips. Looks like it would make a great off grid tiny house or guest house instead of storage.
Yvonne Luke I'm thinking about a man cave area
I understand that but, when I saw the video I could see a kitchen, living room and bedroom plus bathroom. I also saw a small home for elderly parents too.
Yvonne Luke..... perfect space for a cottage/cabin, for a couple. I did the same, laid out a floor plan. So cute!!!
Yvonne Luke..... perfect space for a cottage/cabin, for a couple. I did the same, laid out a floor plan. So cute!!!
I know right!
That's a great building. I admire your willingness to make it a long term project, presumably to keep cost and debt down.
Wow! You call that a shed? It could be a perfect permanent house for me. Thanks for showing : )
You are extremely good A lot of people talk that talk but they cannot walk that talk but you walk your talk you are super good and what you do I don't know you from Adam to Eve but all I have to say I'm glad to see somebody with a good knowledge to do it themselves you look like the type of guy when you get old you were past all that knowledge to your kids One Love.
if you put 4×4's 4ft. apart underneath, cemented in and secured with large lag bolts at the top of each 4×4, directly at each corner and ajoining 2×4's across, the wooden structure will be able to hold and the foundation will be entirely sure without any issues of weight-bearing, on floors.
Beautiful job man. I'm building my own little barn. It is much simpler than yours, but I've never done something like this before so it's taking a good amount of time. I started six months ago and I only have a floor and three walls built. You def have some real ability!
Good job, looks nice.
I built a 16x24 barn type 2 story garage about 3 years ago all by myself. Basically looks the same as your.
But I did a few things different. For example my foundation, I used 6x16x8 cement blocks. I dug a trench the dimension of the garage 8" deep. Packed in 1" of gravel. Then I set 1 layer of the block in the trench.
I pounded in every hole in the blocks a 3' peice of rebar. Then filled all the holes with cement. When I did that I also installed some bolts so I could attach the 2x6 bottom plate to the foundation. Cause I built the whole bottom floor with 2x6s . Then inside those blocks, for the garage floor I installed 12x12 cement pavers so I can drive on it.
For the garage door I built 2, six foot swinging doors and and attached a garage door opener to them. It's pretty cool if I say so myself.
Then the walk thru door I installed 2' back from the garage door so not to waste the whole wall.
I wanted as much wall space as I could get. So I can still pull my truck in there.
So I installed my stairs outside on the back 16' wall and built a 10'x6' deck with a 6' high fence around it. And installed a door for the second story.
I used 2x12x16 floor joists for the upstairs floor.
For the trusses I used gussets at the intersecting points. And for added support I added 2x2x6 peices attached inside the trusses from the top pitch to the side pitch of the roof.
It took me about 5 months every day after work and every weekend.
The best part is it saved me all kinds of money.
I built the entire garage for $9800.00.
The cheapest bid I got was $69000.00. But that would have been all up to code.
Anyway enjoy and take care.
I did a somewhat similar upstairs deviation from the norm to add ceiling height in a garage I built for my father back in the 90's. I balloon framed it with a steel beam in the center due to span and width, but the balloon framing allows for added height upstairs...did the same on my brother in law's garage. Smart decision on your part...nothing worse than crouching in a storage area when you can elevate and make it actual useful for more than storage as you have done! Good job.
Nice job! I built my recording studio back in my music days, and I built my shop at my Mt. Cabin which turned out to be my first wood working video for youtube. And like you, I did all of it by my self except for the siding which was 4 x 8 siding and my son helped me with it on the studio, but I actually figured out a way to do even that by myself on the shop by using cleats screwed to the outside floor joists and just setting the siding on it until I could get a couple screws in it. All my ceilings etc in the studio I did with a lift I rented. My shop does not have a finished out ceiling, just a metal roof with exposed rafters and purlins so I did not need the lift there. My shop is also built on a much steeper slope than yours, but I made a grid of my joists and put in several supports in the corners that the grid formed in several places and I dug a 6" hole about a foot and a half deep that the supports went down into and then I poured concrete into that. I think there were about 20 of those. Took a while but It does not budge lol! But you did quite a good job with your build. I relate!
Right on. Thank You Ernie.
OUTSTANDING, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. MY HUSBAND AND I BUILT LIKE THAT BUT ONLY 1 STORY. LOOKS GREAT!!! START STORING FOOD AND WATER NOW FOR YOUR FAMILY!!!
Thanks for using all caps so I could hear you better
OMG dude! You didn't skimp on anything on this project. I'll bet it was expensive. Nice work! 👍
I like the idea that its not a loft but a second floor
WOW what a great job. Eye to quality and it sure shows. I'd live in it comfortably.
Nice ! Some one could totally live in this building.
My uncle built a house with a hip roof, held square dancing classes. Love these types of roofs, had a little porch off of one end.
Only someone who has done something like this can understand the feeling. Great job!!!
Suggestions moving forward would be to use 10/3 UG wire from 30 amp house to 20 amp shed due to the run. Otherwise you will be tripping in the house on a hard draw like a compressor start while using other stuff in the shed. The 10/3 will allow you two 110 circuits. ........... Again, fine job.
Happy I came across this video I'm getting ready to build a 16x26 shed similar to what you have. Thanks for posting a video. Since this was three years ago I'll check to see if you have updated vids on the finished product. 👍
well done, very nice shed!!
I love this ! It would make a perfect guest house !
This is exactly what I need. Great garage space; then you have the 2nd level that would be great for a small office, craft shop, or storage.
, garage, workshop, storage on first floor, apartment on second floor, all in one building, perfect. especially in colder weather, pull inside, go upstairs, without going outside, perfect !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could live in it, nice job.
i could live in this...sweet job
Nice build. Like the height in the upper level. One thing you should take into consideration is the tree by the front door. Those pesky things have a habit of growing over time. I watched one, over time, push over a 1.5 foot square, concrete and stone fence pillar.
I wish you would build me one of these to live in. It's perfect!
I'd like you to build me one too .nice
@OleSnappy I'll just go out on a limb here and say that neither of you could live in a shed.
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Shed into home all day long on youtube.
I am not in the construction industry nor am I a carpenter, I wanted a good guide to help with small projects such as small sheds and some remodeling around the house. So there’s a magic which is Shed Plan [ visit here *WoodBlueprints. Com* ]. This Shed Plan covers all my instructions from top to bottom in a step by step manner.
Sadly, I live in an area where city ordinances prohibit structures of that size. The largest i could build was 8x12 using the barn style roof similar to yours. Mine is simple storage. If had one like yours it would be dedicated to my full wood shop, now in 1/2 of my garage. I must move tools for each job. In your shed everything would be permanently set in place...it would be wonderful. Nicely done sir.
very nice,You've definitely swung a hammer before,looks like a professional job. I'm building a shop soon and am going to go big too.Barn roof looks nice, good job on the shingles
Beautiful! Would love to have one similar but with the walk in door opposite side. Looking forward to seeing it when you have all your tools, etc. and insulation done.
I love it man. Thank you for sharing. I've been wanting to do something very similar to this for some time now. This video is my inspiration to start this weekend. lol. Thanks again!
A guy could live in that sucker, as a home. nice garage/shed!
This is the size/layout I'm looking to build to live in. Definitely well livable.
Great job, thus far. Thanx 4 sharing. Lol...let Michael have his fort. 😉
This is badass, and you did it by yourself even more badass, you are my new hero, how long did it take you and where did you get the plans
GREAT JOB ...i like this to live in, big enough for one person even two...tiny house
That's a fantastic job Ed
Awesome job, thanks for sharing it with us.
Impressive build. Congratulations!!!
that is one awesome shed, reailly nice job
Nice shed. Good size. Well done.
I like the plywood. Good choice.
Nice work.
I like your cabin it gives me alot of ideas on building my cabin here soon
Great job. Love the design
what was approx cost of the supplies needed to build this "shed" (honestly we shouldnt even be calling this a shed. )
That is awesome! Great work.
We need an update of how it looks now! My wife and I are wanting to build something similar. Love the way yours turned out.
Keep meaning to, just been so busy with work and kids... Want to put out a compilation of photos and videos of when I built it... want to put out a what I would do differently if I built it again ...and also want to put out a "what it looks like now" video. Sneak peak, I have added insulation and a Minisplit heat pump... the first floor is more of a workshop and the kids have taken over the 2nd floor with a hangout place. I used plywood instead of drywall to close in the walls and keep a workshop/shed feeling. Thanks for the interest, I will try to get something out this summer (on vacation most of July right now).
Ed List That sounds awesome! Enjoy the vacation and thanks for the reply.
Very nice job.
This is pretty much exactly what I'm looking to build. Did you generate the plans for this shed or purchase? If you generated, how hard was it to get cleared with the city/county? Also if you don't mind saying, what was the approximate total build cost?
Nice job on the shed, looks great. It's bigger then my house, really it is.
Looks terrific!
would make a great second home or cabin
That would be fabulous for an art studio and the second floor I would have done it a bit higher as well as first floor for example instead of 9' a would go for 11' It is a very nice building indeed CONGRATULATION and enjoy it
Super nice shed though your french drain won't prevent surface water from entering the area under the shed. French drains are designed to move away water that stands in a location, not to deflect surface water. You'd need to build a swale to divert the surface water.
Where did you get the floor plans.?? I want to do a 16 × 26. Just not sure where to find build plans.
same size as what im getting built, but i have the garage door moved over so i have room for a mandoor next to it + that goes straight into stairs.
How is the floor engineered? Concrete piers or just on blocks? Spacing on the supports? What size lumber for floor joists and spacing, etc.? How has it held up? Given you put in a garage door, I would assume you have stored heavy equipment in there?
Thank you for feedback
Excellent Video
I love the exterior
Thanks!
LOOKS GREAT DAD !! LOTS OF WORK ! YOU WEN'T ALL THE WAY !! HAT'S OFF TO YOU !
I am planning building something similar but with a skillion roof. Then attach another lean to shed 9x32 to the high side increasing square feet by 288 to 800 sqft total. Use it for retirement home.
Nice job, thank you for sharing !!
Nice job!! Looks good
You just need to spray foam it. No vents needed, air sealed, eliminates sweating, and way better R value
I really want to spray foam our basement before I finish it, haven't decided if I will pay someone to do it or try to tackle it myself (that is my next project after the shed) ...never thought of foaming the shed for insulation... good suggestion, thanks.
Spray foam has been known to create certain health hazards. Do your research before you pull the trigger.
(Just a suggestion) Instead of gutters put a strip of aluminum above the door to deflect the water away from the doorway and don't put gutters on the rest of the shed. That way you don't have to clean out the gutters. looks like you have a lot of trees. put a little gravel on the ground where the gutters drip.
Absolutely love it!!!
What was the price of everything?
Great job dude!!
Just a question if you are worried about the building moving down the slope (slipage as you say) why didnt you pour footings for the building to sit on?
I should have... one of the things I list that I wish I would have done differently is to pour a proper foundation. But with that said, the land is very stable (lots of sandstone, just below the surface) so even without a foundation it should be okay. The extra rocks should slow down the rain from washing away the dirt I piled up around the concrete blocks. ...but again, if I had to do it again, I would have poured a proper foundation.
Sorry if I sounded crass with my comment. I didn't know if there was a reason for it. I am building a small cabin myself and going to put it on blocks. I was asking so if there was a mistake I didn't make it also. thanks for the reply!
not crass at all, this is one of the more common comments (and rightly so). if you put it on blocks, put it high enough to be able to work under (be able to go under and jack it up if/when it starts to settle)... this will also allow more air under and prevent rot. I already jacked up my shed and put 2 more sets of blocks (so 8 inches higher).
Hello, great video! Who is the company that you got the material from? Was it a kit home?
Ryan what did the shed cost to build ? Your a wonderful carpenter.
I want in my yard to live in and rent out my big house. Did you need a building permit or zoning issues ?
Do you have to pay taxes on the shed.
Most of the two story barn style sheds I researched were around $10,000 and up. The most expensive are already built and delivered on site. A little less expensive are kits where everything is measured, cut and you get instructions. The cheapest way is going with your own plans, purchasing the lumber, measuring and building yourself from scratch.
Building permits and zoning laws are different in every township/city.
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I can't agree more. Except Loew's has one for $8,000.00 I remember seeing.
@@jmjrosary4697 That's a great deal! Does it come already assembled?
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I just saw one on RUclips cheaper then that, from $3,000.00 some odd, and it was a 10×21 or 24.
You pick the building and they come out and build it.
How did you install the stairs? Do you happen to have the video? I’m planning on remodeling my basement stairs to what you have done there
looks good . great job .
Really nice building
I'd build a retaining wall off the back then back-fill it with soil to keep your crushed rock in place and prevent anything from washing down the hillside.
who paid for this shed the home center? it looks like an ad for the do it yourselfer,
this is nice enough to live in. i like the hurricane clips upstairs.
Perhaps I missed it in the comments, but if you don't mind my asking, how much has this project set you back?
What are the pitches of the roof?. How far do the eaves / soffit overhang? Garage door looks to be 8'x8' in the video, what is the actual size? By now I've looked at hundreds of buildings on line, yours is the closest to what I'd like to build for my needs. I like the soffit that's wide enough for ventilation and both stories are full height. I'm just fine with the wall braces upstairs, I'd intend to use upstairs for storage anyway. We live in NW FL; wind can be a problem. It looks like this design would stand up to wind. We bought a house recently that doesn't have a big shed/storage. At my last place I easily filled up a 16x20 that a local company built and set up on the lot. I also had a 10x14 tin building (Arrow) that kept the lawn tractor and mower/s. Filled it up too. Yours is 1024 sq. ft on a 16x32 foot print. I'd be excited to begin, finish and use something like this. BTW I ran a 240V 4 wire 60Amp service to my last shed/shop. That way I had enough for air compressor and big table saw; with 240 you can also have hot water if desired.
The roof is a perfect half octagon so all 4 rafter pieces are are the same length (73.5 inches long... if i remember correctly) and 22.5 degree angles cuts. Then the overhangs can be any length (I think I used ~18inches, maybe even 20"). Raising the roof with the mini-wall weakened the structure making the braces necessary. You can make a stronger roof by not adding a mini wall and changing the shape of the roof so that the lower sides are longer and steeper and the top part of the roof is flatter... which would change the angles and lengths so just play around with the math to do this. I had already made all the roof rafters then decided I wanted the 2nd story to be taller so I had to add the miniwall and braces to achieve this. Yes the garage door is 8x8 (best price was at Menards (not sure if you have those down in Florida... but cheaper then lowes and home depot. If I had to do it again, i would put the front door on the same wall as the garage door... this frees up a wall. My biggest "if i did it over again" wish is that i went ahead and put a better foundation in.. the blocks are holding level but eventually they will settle and I will to jack up the shed and put extra wood to re-level. Also, if you live in a windy place even more reason not to use blocks. The shed gets really hot in the summer so do yourself a favor and go with 2x6 instead of 2x4 for the walls and rafters to give yourself more space for more insulation against the hot roof. Keep in mind the bigger you go the harder it is to heat/cool... but you already have experience with your other shed so you likely know better than I do how to deal with the heat. For shed plans, you can go online and find some really cheep shed plans (can find some for ~$10) places like cheepsheds.com ...this will give you a good starting spot to base you shed on then you can deviate from there and make it however you want but nice to have some sort of plans for reference. The particular website I mentioned has a good outline of how to make the roof rafters using OSB gussets... I found that 16' wide is about as wide as I could go by doing it myself, any wider would have required more help. I still need to run electric so thanks for the tip on what you ran (240v 4 wire 60 service). Even though it took me a while, I very much enjoyed building the shed. ...good luck with your build!
Nice build. I like the upstairs roof height. Is the flooring insulated with wet proof barrier?
Yes, I put 2" Extruded Polystyrene (XPS) Rigid Foam Insulation under the floor as I installed it... there are a few videos from others on youtube about how to do this. Works well, glad I did it
Hope u supported the upper stairs! Nice Barn shed.
Thanks, yes, upper stairs are supported the same way normal stairs (ie stairs with a signle run) are.
Very nice. You do good work. Much talent.
where did you get your lap siding and soffet material? Brand. I'm having trouble sourcing 3 in lap here in the Spokane, Wa area. thanks
siding mostly from Menards, soffet mainly from Lowes (I would think HD also has it)
This is great. Did you follow plans to build this? I haven’t found a loft shed with the extra height like you have here.
I started with the "tall barn style shed plans" from a website called cheapsheds.com then modified from there. I think the plans were only about $10 but well worth it to get you started. If you modify like i did, it will cause a structural problem and you will have to add the bracing in like I did.
What is the snow load rating on this building? Do you know? Awesome, I love it...
sorry have no idea what the snow load is, we dont get that much snow in southern ohio
Very nice building and video. Where did you obtain plans for the building (especially the roof and the structure for the 19” wall and roof on the second story)?
This shed has no official plan. I started by buying a basic shed plan for ~$10 online by googling "cheap shed plans". Then looked at various plans online and on youtube to get ideas and came up with this shed. I would not recommend using my idea for the 2nd floor 19" mini-wall since it created a weak structure causing me to have to add the "ugly" braces to save the structure. Instead I suggest either making it like a pole barn (using long poles that span the 1st and 2nd story walls instead of stacking the 2nd story mini-wall on top of the 1st story) or changing the roof shape so that the first part of the roof connects directly to the 2nd story base, is more vertically pitched, and is longer so that the roof itself acts like a 2nd story wall. ...But if you don't mind the braces and/or add interior walls inside the shed, the mini-wall works fine.
Great job good work very spacious, Bravo/...
It will be nice to see when you finish it
Nice shed. Btw, if you are going to insulate the roof, then you didn't need the soffit/ridge vents. The attic should be either insulated or vented, not both?
The way I was thinking about it is since the attic is cut open (with a large stairwell and windows) it is really no longer an attic but a 2nd story and that makes the ceiling more like a cathedral type ceiling. when i look at videos on insulating cathedral ceiling many of them use venting and insulation ...soffit vents, small air gap make with plastic or Styrofoam (covered by insulation) and then a ridge vent. As it is now the 2nd story gets way to hot in the summer so I feel like i need to do something. I haven't worked on the shed since I posted in November but when I start up again in a month or two I will have to address this so your advice/input is much appreciated.
In USA a large percentage of housing is made out of wood so how is a big shed any different?
Great shed/shop...
How did you hang the plywood for the roof and shingle? Did you use a lift or scaffolding?
homemade scaffolding
Hi. That looks great. Can you please let me know where you purchased this shed?
Didn't buy it built it myself
I have a couple questions, assuming this is the same exact shed I have been looking at, at home depot, how sturdy is the "loft"? Also, the building aspect, with the kit provided, does the stairs have to back that specific wall? I was hoping to back the bottom stairs against the 16ft wall and the upper part against the 32ft wall.
Not a kit, bought all materials slowly over time as I built the shed. The 2nd floor is made of 2"x10"x16ft #1 southern yellow pine spaced at 16" OC.... the walls and rafters and first story floor is all 16" OC. I have no idea what the Home Depot shed specification are but the 2x10's I used were rated to span 16Ft for a residential room (but remember that is with #1 SYP ..other wood types will vary on rating). If you search the web for wood types and span ratings, you can find charts for this topic.
Awesome! Thank you! The Home Depot one is built with 2x8 with 24" OC. Definitely would not be as sturdy in my opinion. I am leaning toward buying my own materials as well after looking closer into the details of provided. Thank you. Wonderful work by the way!
CAN WE MAKE A 16' x 32' Two Story GARAGE ON PRIVATE HOUSE IN GLEN COVE LONG ISLANG ?
IS ANY PROBLEM WITH THE TOW ?
Great job
Holy crap 2x4 rafters on a 16' wall to wall distance 8' span. With a gambrel roof you should have upped it to 2x6. As long as the city/county considers it a storage shed you're ok. If you make it into an apartment/dwelling later, that will probably never pass code.
Hi Max, I followed the plans for the gambrel roof from a website that sells shed plans and according to their plans they go up to this size (16') with 2x4 rafters. I also ran the plans by an architect and a building inspector and neither had a problem with it. Do you know for sure this is not enough support or do you just personally think it is not enough support? I am still learning so always appreciate when people point out if I have done something wrong.
Ed List From what I've read in rafter span tables southern yellow pine. (what's available where I live) Is ok for up to 10 foot span (20 foot wall to wall) with l/180 deflection 10-20 loads, but I live in the south with no snow load. Even though it's safe by the books all of the older (50 years plus) houses and sheds I've seen built with 2x4 rafters are still standing but the roof bends and deflects if you have to climb up on them for repairs. Double laying shingles in the future would also be out of the question because the roof couldn't hold the extra weight plus any wind or snow load. Let me reassure you that all storage sheds here (upstate SC) are built with 2x4 rafters as well, I just personally think it's pushing the limits. If it was approved by an engineer and inspector in your area you should be fine. Everything is relative, you must live in an area with even less snow load than me or lower wind loads. The shed looks great though I'm planning one myself.
really nice job! i have 2 questions for you, 1. do you find the floor sturdy enough with the 2x10x16s for that span? would you go the same route if you had to do it again? and 2. if you dont mind me asking how much did this run you? im gonna build a 16x20 so not as big, but just trying to get an idea of how much,any input is appreciated....oh and did you have a print or just go off the top of your head
1) Yes, very sturdy... Each wood has its own rating and each grade of wood has its own rating so you'll need to look up what you want to use. For mine, I looked up the span ratings on the web and for #1 Southern Yellow Pine at (40 PSF LIVE LOAD, 10 PSF DEAD LOAD, 360 DEFLECTION) ...and #1 SYP 2x10 can span 16'-1". If I recall correctly this was good enough for a typical residential bedroom so plenty strong for my shed. Now if you want to store things heavier than a typical bedroom rating (like an large aquarium or hot tub), you will need to upgrade.
2) No I don't mind telling you the cost (this is a very important question)... so far I have spent ~13K (what you see in the video).
Great TINY house
How much spent on each part. That would be a nice video
What angles did you make your roof? And also, how high is your short wall on the upper floor?
45 deg Angles on roof (so cut each peice of wood 22.5 deg ), and the little wall was 19" high.
@@edlist Thank you very much. Love the design
nice vid! this would be a perfect platform to off grid with a tiny/temp living space. was it hard to get zoning/permits from your local municipality? did it add to your property taxes too, having another structure on the property? thanks Ed! this has 12 more sq ft than my current home lol.
For my city it was easy, I just contacted the city (I think it was code enforcement) and asked what I needed... all they needed from me was for me to provide a rough property map showing my property with location of my house and the proposed location of the shed and a $50 fee ...about 2 weeks later I got the okay and a building permit to build the shed. I think the main concerns were % of land the building would take up and how close it was to my neighbor's property. Keep in mind that this was to build a storage shed, so if I asked to build a dwelling, I would think that there would be different regulations. I haven't received any increase in property tax yet, but I can imagine that it will happen.
You shouldn't have an increase in your taxes for a "portable" building. Did you build it on a permanent foundation? if so then yes your taxes will go up.
Replying super late, but this is a class "S" building, meaning its only permitted for storage. You are talking about "living space". If no one finds out you're living in it, its no problem. If someone does find out, the government can request you get it up to code which will be hugely expensive as this isn't built to the very specific requirements about how the foundation is built, the roof attached, etc. If you can't get it to code, you'd think the government would just say "don't let us catch you living in it again", but often they just end up demolishing it instead to be sure. That can be a REALLY expensive learning curve. All said and done, its more economical, especially if you want to hook it up to plumbing/electric is to just get a smaller prefab home for a guesthouse/in-law house on your property.