nice video as always, have something to say sometimes the form is drawn correctly and the wrong shading destroy the form especially when the core shadow is not flowing correctly , what i'm really looking forward to clarify the mystery of the shading statement on tracing the core shadow correctly especially when it is not clearly visible on the form and how the core shadow flow and connects through out various forms and where it breaks and when the core shadow edge is lost and diapers with clear examples , is really disappointing for me as a student when i understand anatomy and perspective and i can't express that knowledge due a leak of one important aspect like shading,
I wanna share a little tip that has helped me when working with references: make it black and white. If you only need to see the shapes and shadows it is easier to see and copy those when the colour is not distracting from the shading.
Mind blown! Your critique about the curve being roughly the same on the front and back of the finger helped me immensely. It was even better to see how you formed the fat padding after getting that initial form/shape. This has helped me with both my drawing and my 3D sculpting in Blender! Thank you!
Thank you thank you thank you for providing this amazing opportunity to so many people for free. Your videos have helped me so much. I’ll be sure to look into the premium version. :)
Cho Lin In psychology there is such thing as short term memory or long term memory. Thomas Frank did a video mentioning recall versus recognition. For artists memorizing something you want to draw. You need to practice and re draw your mistakes in order to get the most out of your practice for drawing hands.
No one should be able to remember everything from just 1 go in their entire life, therefore watch this again if you feel uncertain when drawing hands! Learning is a process that takes time to master and you shouldn't feel discouraged if you don't see improvements in a short period of time.
Nice channel with great overview over anatomy drawing. But the correction on the pinky finger on the first draw counters the nature of anatomy, the advice looks almost anime type, the finger will never naturaly bend like that, only if in pressure. The original was actualy more ocurate even if not completly correct.
I´d be very interested in you showing drawings from other artists that you really like, and explain what draws you to them. Would be much appreciated to watch you talk about drawings that are as perfect as possible. For me it might be stuff from Robert Liberace, Albrecht Dürer or John Howe perhaps :)
I think you misunderstood the original orientation of the hand model in 4:43. In yours the hand is fully extended with a straight wrist whereas the original has the hand slightly cupped with wrist also slightly extended out.
Just want to thank you for your content. Went thru all hand videos (including April fools one), filled sketchbook with tips and examples. I can draw hand better only 5 years more and I will be confident with it. Anyways THANK YOU FOR AWESOME vids! You are great teacher.
Thank you for yet another great video! I have gotten a lot better but I am avoiding you stylized swoop back of the finger tip. Yes it might look good, or cool or whatever. But it's not realistic.
I would like to see a callus/raised area on the 1st and 2nd fingers on you drawing, it would help define the area between the fingers and hand. I am enjoy/learning a lot from your videos, Thank you! (:
PROKO YOU NEED TO DO VIDEOS EXPLAINING HOW TO DRAW LEGS, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME. IF YOU DO I'M NOT GONNA BE SELFISH ANYMORE AND I'LL BE SHARING ALL YOUR VIDEOS EVEN WITH MY UNCLE'S DOG PLEASE
Wow, on the 1st one I can't even get my pinky to bend like that. I get that it looks more appealing (or dynamic), but the original was truthfully more accurate.
@@ProkoTV old video i'm looking at but that was my reaction too. your comments are helpful to be sure, but perhaps a little subjective and unfair to people who might be trying to capture the realistic form objectively. with the first one, my little finger looks something in between theirs and yours.
I am new to the world of art, a complete amateur. So a question kind off strike my mind. The hands drawn here are being corrected and adjusted for minute details so how important is it to go into details if I want to do concept art and characters. Do I have to go in depth into anatomy, or fundamentals are enough. Can someone guide me here or send any link to articles dealing with this.
Very nice video, I learned much from it BUT I think that those people, especially the last one (that thumb) was much fatter than in your re-draw, I would like to see some fatter hands from you :) because peole start thinking fat and THAT makes them draw the snowman effect, I find it very difficult myself and always mess up
I know this is a four year old video -- So, sue me for being laaaaaaate to the party, but all this info is top-notch! I've been reevaluating my art, lately. Just wanting to do more study and brush up on my anatomy and all your content on anatomy is spectacular! I am planning on paying for a full course, soon -- just broke at the moment, lol.
So sorry mr Porko, but 4:30 ring finger on your picture looks completely broken, even for my armature's point on view. It's proximal phalanx tries to take a different angle BUT it's 2nd and 3rd phalanges seems to be disagree. And they trying to keep same angle with the rest of fingers that makes whole finger to look broken. You can draw a circular cuts where phalanges connects to see that clearer.
You're actually right. I have skinny fingers and i couldn't make my hands look like that from any angle using my phone's camera. That's why i think it's better to look at hand while drawing to make it look more realistic
Your swoops are too much. Fingers don't swoop that much unless you force them to. It's not natural. Everything else is pretty accurate, however. If your saying it swoops because of the padding on each joint of the finger, then your not looking close enough and examining it. Fingers swoop at the very end of the tips. After the swoop it does the sausage for a moment before going straight or before going to the knuckle.
I'm sorry but the first finger, even tho you have the "gesture" there's no way that's a normal position for a pinky in the position the hand is. That just looks wrong if you put it back on the hand ... Edit : Wrote that before seeing all the comments. Yup, I'm not the only one...)
so just ignore the photo reference and greatly overexaggarate joints and shapes. got it, Proko. not everyone has perfect model hands so don't expect people to draw THEIR OWN HANDS as if they were perfect model hands.
hmm!...I'm really glad! Your videos have been very helpful to me sofar, since I can't afford to take a course. BUT sth. is wrong this time. Your drawing of the 2nd Improved-Hand is confusing and even IRRITATING me, ... somehow. - While I'm totally with you on all the Critiques, and on your 1st improvements, I'm quite unhappy with the entire improvement-drawing of the 2nd hand (04:28). I find the OVERLAPS on the pinkie weird looking. And on the ringfinger this sharp (lower)bend, it looks like a 'kink' (or a broken finger), and on the side of fingertip-segment, it looks like a ebone sticking out. To me this entire drawing seems wrong ... , not least because of the almost pointed fingers. Actually, the weirdlooking shadows, together with the large creases below the fingers 3, 4, 5, they give an impression as if this improved hand (05:57) is stuck in a kitchen-rubber-glove. ...
cool tutorial as always, but lets say i'm a master in anatomy, perspective, and know all human figure planes in perspective but there is no way with all of those info to make one decent depict for a complex form like the human figure with no idea about using edges correctly between light tones and dark tones "not only core shadow "by only knowing the basics of lightning over a sphere that everyone already knows :/ there are many things needs clarifying thx
Welcome hells kitchen But instead of gordan ramsey is proko And instead of kitchen its desk and paper And instead of hell its heavan And instead of yelling and offending its teachong you nicely Heavens desk and paper
You lost me when you started "designing" (a.k.a. changing) the features on an actual photograph because, apparently, reality was not "interesting" enough for you. Why bother using photo reference then if you're just going to draw whatever you want anyway? And why should anyone listen to your anatomy advice when you're willing to deform real fingers to make them look cooler?
Because that's important in art. To not follow it to seriously you can stylized and make a drawing much better by bending reality, as long as it still looks around anatomically correct. If you stick to close to realistic proportions. You will have stiff drawings and no originality or style.
Who’s ready for LEG ANATOMY???
Proko meeeeeeee!
Too late Proko. I already dissected my legs using my knife so I can see the bone and muscles.
Jennyliino mmmmmmee
Alright!!
nice video as always,
have something to say sometimes the form is drawn correctly and the wrong shading destroy the form especially when the core shadow is not flowing correctly , what i'm really looking forward to clarify the mystery of the shading statement on tracing the core shadow correctly especially when it is not clearly visible on the form and how the core shadow flow and connects through out various forms and where it breaks and when the core shadow edge is lost and diapers with clear examples , is really disappointing for me as a student when i understand anatomy and perspective and i can't express that knowledge due a leak of one important aspect like shading,
I wanna share a little tip that has helped me when working with references: make it black and white.
If you only need to see the shapes and shadows it is easier to see and copy those when the colour is not distracting from the shading.
Mind blown! Your critique about the curve being roughly the same on the front and back of the finger helped me immensely. It was even better to see how you formed the fat padding after getting that initial form/shape. This has helped me with both my drawing and my 3D sculpting in Blender! Thank you!
my fingers actually look like 5 sausages so I thought Nick's was perfect
I was about to say that. Ha ha.
@@109joiner he said that 4 years before you💀
@@iamkartvya29 I never noticed, I wonder if he’s still alive.
Thank you thank you thank you for providing this amazing opportunity to so many people for free. Your videos have helped me so much. I’ll be sure to look into the premium version. :)
Someone need to take proko from the thumbnail and draw the rest of him playing a guitar solo
Excellent critiques! Now, I will look at my own hand studies for similar mistakes.
I guess you could say these are some great *finger-tips*.
😂😂 good one
Underrated.
That's some solid Finger Tips right there...
Underrated comment
I wish I had better memory so I can memorize all these information.
Cho Lin The Subscribe and Notification buttons are great memory aides. You can create your favorite playlists too.
Here´s a short version: No snowmen with sausages! Thumbs are dogheads.
I find useful to have a notebook with me and just replicate his drawings, while also taking notes.
Cho Lin In psychology there is such thing as short term memory or long term memory.
Thomas Frank did a video mentioning recall versus recognition.
For artists memorizing something you want to draw. You need to practice and re draw your mistakes in order to get the most out of your practice for drawing hands.
No one should be able to remember everything from just 1 go in their entire life, therefore watch this again if you feel uncertain when drawing hands! Learning is a process that takes time to master and you shouldn't feel discouraged if you don't see improvements in a short period of time.
Nice channel with great overview over anatomy drawing. But the correction on the pinky finger on the first draw counters the nature of anatomy, the advice looks almost anime type, the finger will never naturaly bend like that, only if in pressure. The original was actualy more ocurate even if not completly correct.
I´d be very interested in you showing drawings from other artists that you really like, and explain what draws you to them.
Would be much appreciated to watch you talk about drawings that are as perfect as possible.
For me it might be stuff from Robert Liberace, Albrecht Dürer or John Howe perhaps :)
I need a hand with my work
was that I pun I saw
Rex Art Use your hand as reference. This is why beginner artists should draw from real life and photo references.
Ask kira
Proko, sir, youre a beast!. love your videos!
From my heart
Thx😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
I think you misunderstood the original orientation of the hand model in 4:43. In yours the hand is fully extended with a straight wrist whereas the original has the hand slightly cupped with wrist also slightly extended out.
They had the same reference image.
Unintentionally hilarious. "Sausage sausage sausage..."
Very informative 🎉
I love your teaching
Great video, thank you for those amazing advices !!
Cheers :D
Just want to thank you for your content. Went thru all hand videos (including April fools one), filled sketchbook with tips and examples. I can draw hand better only 5 years more and I will be confident with it. Anyways THANK YOU FOR AWESOME vids! You are great teacher.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I struggle the most with fingers!
4:15
Snowman effect 😂 that's funny
Thanks for your videos 💖✨✨✨✨✨just now, I must draw hands with fisch.
Thank you for yet another great video! I have gotten a lot better but I am avoiding you stylized swoop back of the finger tip. Yes it might look good, or cool or whatever. But it's not realistic.
Are you going to cover the legs this year?
it's beautiful tnx
thx for sharing
So glad i found you
The funny things about ☃️ effect is it's almost the opposite of correct work which the joints are tend to be out not in.
I would like to see a callus/raised area on the 1st and 2nd fingers on you drawing, it would help define the area between the fingers and hand. I am enjoy/learning a lot from your videos, Thank you! (:
Thank you
That is one big tablet
I'm painting on my wall, my wall ain't about to have a sausage finger drawing on it
PROKO YOU NEED TO DO VIDEOS EXPLAINING HOW TO DRAW LEGS, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME. IF YOU DO I'M NOT GONNA BE SELFISH ANYMORE AND I'LL BE SHARING ALL YOUR VIDEOS EVEN WITH MY UNCLE'S DOG PLEASE
Wow, on the 1st one I can't even get my pinky to bend like that. I get that it looks more appealing (or dynamic), but the original was truthfully more accurate.
+danure shoot for 80% accurate and 20% awesome
@@ProkoTV old video i'm looking at but that was my reaction too. your comments are helpful to be sure, but perhaps a little subjective and unfair to people who might be trying to capture the realistic form objectively. with the first one, my little finger looks something in between theirs and yours.
danure same I was sitting here seeing if my finger even bent that way but no
Ur videos are really nice😎👌
Thank you pal
I am new to the world of art, a complete amateur. So a question kind off strike my mind. The hands drawn here are being corrected and adjusted for minute details so how important is it to go into details if I want to do concept art and characters. Do I have to go in depth into anatomy, or fundamentals are enough. Can someone guide me here or send any link to articles dealing with this.
Can you teach us how to draw legs?
now i know, thanks!!
When you realize the first example is everyone losing the circle game.
Your a saviour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very nice video, I learned much from it
BUT I think that those people, especially the last one (that thumb) was much fatter than in your re-draw, I would like to see some fatter hands from you :)
because peole start thinking fat and THAT makes them draw the snowman effect, I find it very difficult myself and always mess up
perfect
Thanks
9:12 i cant help but think the ring finger looks broken...
The pinky finger and the others do not usually curve outwards that like a thumb does. This may be a little fantasy. Does Dorian do hands this way too?
hi thank you for useful information, where is your group for share drawing?how can i join there?
I don't have that S-curve at all on my fingers. Some people do have that snowman look for real.
+Dan Fors send me some pics of your hands. I wanna see! (Not weird at all)
@@ProkoTV That's him officer, that's that weirdo
Kira yoshikage vibes right here
@@ProkoTV HAND PICS NOW
thank you nice
Awesome
Top (*insert number*) videos Justin Y. Didn't watch
Btw i love your videos proko
This is extremely helpful! I can't believe I've been falling for these stupid mistakes for so long. Thank you, so absolutely much. =)
Honestly I’m learning more how to draw here than I did at college.
Nice....
Talk about an opening!
Hey Proko, what kind of chair is that?
Question how to draw wrinkles and fold in anatomy?
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Мне очень нравится как ты рисуешь руки))
Добрый день,
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I know this is a four year old video -- So, sue me for being laaaaaaate to the party, but all this info is top-notch! I've been reevaluating my art, lately. Just wanting to do more study and brush up on my anatomy and all your content on anatomy is spectacular! I am planning on paying for a full course, soon -- just broke at the moment, lol.
So sorry mr Porko, but 4:30 ring finger on your picture looks completely broken, even for my armature's point on view. It's proximal phalanx tries to take a different angle BUT it's 2nd and 3rd phalanges seems to be disagree. And they trying to keep same angle with the rest of fingers that makes whole finger to look broken. You can draw a circular cuts where phalanges connects to see that clearer.
You're actually right. I have skinny fingers and i couldn't make my hands look like that from any angle using my phone's camera. That's why i think it's better to look at hand while drawing to make it look more realistic
where can i find the group to submit my work?
It's at proko.com/groups
Sean Ramsey Thanks!
add cc pls
Usually the CC for critiques is added about a week later.
2:44 gotem
Your swoops are too much. Fingers don't swoop that much unless you force them to. It's not natural. Everything else is pretty accurate, however. If your saying it swoops because of the padding on each joint of the finger, then your not looking close enough and examining it. Fingers swoop at the very end of the tips. After the swoop it does the sausage for a moment before going straight or before going to the knuckle.
You’re so brillant. I love cows, they really love this planet
Modern day
Leonardo davinci
He’s better than Leonardo.
Tbh I gave up on drawing this is really fucking hard. I got myself a really bad headache doing this
I'm sorry but the first finger, even tho you have the "gesture" there's no way that's a normal position for a pinky in the position the hand is. That just looks wrong if you put it back on the hand ... Edit : Wrote that before seeing all the comments. Yup, I'm not the only one...)
Poor snowman ☃️
A pinky doesnt bent in that S way tho
Sausaaaage Effect😂😂😂😂
so i learned snow man effect and sausage ...
so just ignore the photo reference and greatly overexaggarate joints and shapes. got it, Proko.
not everyone has perfect model hands so don't expect people to draw THEIR OWN HANDS as if they were perfect model hands.
hmm!...I'm really glad! Your videos have been very helpful to me sofar, since I can't afford to take a course. BUT sth. is wrong this time. Your drawing of the 2nd Improved-Hand is confusing and even IRRITATING me, ... somehow. - While I'm totally with you on all the Critiques, and on your 1st improvements, I'm quite unhappy with the entire improvement-drawing of the 2nd hand (04:28). I find the OVERLAPS on the pinkie weird looking. And on the ringfinger this sharp (lower)bend, it looks like a 'kink' (or a broken finger), and on the side of fingertip-segment, it looks like a ebone sticking out. To me this entire drawing seems wrong ... , not least because of the almost pointed fingers. Actually, the weirdlooking shadows, together with the large creases below the fingers 3, 4, 5, they give an impression as if this improved hand (05:57) is stuck in a kitchen-rubber-glove. ...
I really can't draw hands like for real
one look to the thumbnail and i knew things gonna get "twisted" on this video ;P
cool tutorial as always, but lets say i'm a master in anatomy, perspective, and know all human figure planes in perspective but there is no way with all of those info to make one decent depict for a complex form like the human figure with no idea about using edges correctly between light tones and dark tones "not only core shadow "by only knowing the basics of lightning over a sphere that everyone already knows :/
there are many things needs clarifying thx
Half of what he said is true, half of what he said is preference and or opinion. Learn the basics and be your own artist.
we want turkish subtitles 😌
Gözde Ecem Çelik Who cares
Jadwiga Konieczna what ?🤔
Stan а ти пам'ятаєш українську мову, бо бачу що у тебе українське призвище і ім'я тво мабуть Стас?
pp
This man is the Shapiro of art
Welcome hells kitchen
But instead of gordan ramsey is proko
And instead of kitchen its desk and paper
And instead of hell its heavan
And instead of yelling and offending its teachong you nicely
Heavens desk and paper
You lost me when you started "designing" (a.k.a. changing) the features on an actual photograph because, apparently, reality was not "interesting" enough for you. Why bother using photo reference then if you're just going to draw whatever you want anyway? And why should anyone listen to your anatomy advice when you're willing to deform real fingers to make them look cooler?
Because that's important in art. To not follow it to seriously you can stylized and make a drawing much better by bending reality, as long as it still looks around anatomically correct. If you stick to close to realistic proportions. You will have stiff drawings and no originality or style.
Thanks