So true I used to think military men were a bunch of jarhead protein junkie savages, Wow did this sidekick me in the face, the lessons, eloquence, and humility, from some goliath has really shattered these false narratives in my head, and transcend to grasping new and greater rungs. Started using some kettlebells and felt fucking amazing. Whenever I get bored or unmotivated working from home. I pick up that kettlebell and say, this is your procrastination, buckle up. Makes me feel incredible after a work out, going back to data tables.
Same. I dismissed Jocko because of his muscles until I saw him with Jordan Peterson. Now that I’ve listened to Jocko I’m grateful. I like that 1) he is easy to understand, 2) he’s practical, and 3) he has real world experience in a high level organization so the strategies are trustworthy.
The Modern Stoic - GOOD. If my humiliation far surpasses yours, then I have scored higher on the Humble score board than you. Therefore my humility must be off the charts! Your humility on the other hand is not even fit to be here!
The Modern Stoic - Haaa I was laughing in class after looking at your reply! Glad to know you posses was the power of good humor as well. Have a good one and stay humble my friend!
The first half of the question immediately made me think of Bill Burr's bit about how women argue. Basically if they know they're right they'll stick to the point and hammer it home until you're begging for forgiveness. If they're in the wrong though they go rogue, dredging up personal stuff they know you're sensitive about. So if they start doing the latter, don't rise to it. Just weather the storm because you've won at that point.
Sw33ts These women are the Karen 2.0’s. They are the updated & graduated versions of Karen. The Karen 2.0’s are the millennials who evolved from the original baby boomer Karen. Despite what HolyCodzta said, there is no winning against a Karen 2.0. They’ve mastered the art of deception. It’s impossible to know they are weak & insecure until it’s too late. The Karen 2.0’s are the most advanced versions in the field right now. This is all apart of their grand master plan to destroy the world. We must warn others of the Karen 2.0 before it’s too late.
Unless you are holding a gun. Though if the guy holding the knife is Jocko, the gun scenario only works if there is sufficient space between you and him.
That first point is so right; who cares if they're wrong? I work in the service industry as a Barista and have customers telling me I'm wrong all day sunrise to sunset. And these are objective statements, not agree to disagree moments. And you know what I do? I politely inform them of what should be corrected, and if they won't acknowledge that I nod my head, say 'sorry about that, I'l sort it', and fix the stated problem. If possible, I try and take steps to prevent it from happening again. To summarise, I do the best thing I can possibly do, because it is not my responsibility to educate those who don't want to learn. I try to inform and if that isn't wanted I let it go and move on. Cause you know, those customers have to live their lives being wrong about some very basic things, ordering coffees and constantly not getting what they want, for instance (which sounds like a special hell). That's THEIR hell, and if they don't want my help I will simply keep living the best I can enjoying making good coffee. There's no reason I should be affected whatsoever.
Jacko - you really broke down that question brilliantly into the three core issues. I admire your clear thinking and very simple examples that I can relate to easily. Thankyou!
I've never had the privilege of serving our country, but I've always been intrigued by the soldier mindset and how they live their lives, make decisions, rationalize things, etc. Everything always seems to be under control at all times, everything is structured and organized. It's very fascinating to me and something I've spent a lot of time watching and trying to learn. I appreciate channels like this and I thank you Jocko, for sharing your insights.
Love ,absolutely LOVE !!!!! Getting notifications of a New Jocko vide being published just as I’m waked out dazed of a days labor, family time and just as I’m about to rest my head flat onto my bed for a 4am shift ....BAM💥 Some insight and knowledge gets dropped and becomes a must watch 👊🤟🏻
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I honestly waited and waited and thought, dang Jocko isn't going to relate this back to Jiu-jitsu? What's going on??? Sure as the sun sets, 7:19 and there it is, almost brought a tear to my non-shooting eye...
on question number one, there are people that won't take back responsibility and will keep attacking you. If you keep taking responsibility you will eventually be their slave, doing everything for them, since they enjoy watching you work and do nothing themselves.
How do you deal with people ganging up on you all while taking advantage of your skills and work? I was just an intern and another intern misinformed me about something. An employee attacked me about it and I said the truth that I was given wrong schedule from the other intern. The employee immediately said that I am basically lying (took the other intern's side cause they're of the same ethnicity and frequently talking in their own language) and complained to the boss. I was always doing lots of work for the boss and yet the boss kept me on the phone for 2 hours trying to humiliate me and blame me, the intern for everything wrong in the office. AND yet the boss also had the nerve to ask me to do more incredibly time consuming work for her to be delivered that same day outside working hours!!! couldn't even end that awful call. The situation was very heavy for almost 2 months and I felt like all the employees knew and wondered about all this. I left because my internship ended but what can one do if thats their actual job? No HR to turn to, it felt quite a stupid but helpless situation to be involved in
Either you fucked up more than you realised or you were in a toxic workplace.... in really toxic workplaces the staff and management have a way of coming together to gang up on the newest easiest to malign member, especially if you expose a giant flaw in how they do things.... you're making them ALL feel inept so they will ALL come together to get you the fuck outta there before they acknowledge how inept they ALL are. You have to either play the game on their terms or get the fuck out of there.... and if you have any integrity at all you are not going to be able to play on their terms. Good news for you is that it hurts and is confusing but it means you dodged a bullet.... the only thing worse than being ostracized from a toxic workplace, is being trapped in one.
@@adamimberti6948 I am pretty sure that the main problem was me being too competent. Actually when the new boss came in, people were nodding towards me whenever something difficult needed to be done. I wasnt the newest one in the office but the new intern whom they dared not pick on cause then it'd make them look bad to our sending organization. They were trying to promote a story that I was the 1 with the problem. Plus the new intern they clearly pitied- they didnt know what tasks to give her because of her limited skills, she has just a high school education, always tries to make excuses and avoid work and they seemed to feed her insecurity esp. against me. Heck just yesterday I was told that apparently I was nearly fired because there was gossip about me that I supposedly slept with some colleague from *another* company during a work event. Poor guy had made the mistake to visit my hotel to bring me aspirin cause noone else was answering my call and there was no receptionist available (no comment on that but it's fact). Ofc I hadnt slept with the poor guy that I had just met! And even if I had, I dont see how thats "illegal" considering we have a couple within our very office where the girl moved in because of her bf. I still cant understand them and they scared me to the point Im now reading psychology stuff just to be sure I know how to deal with this sort of people.
I recommend seeing this through a lense of humility and objectiveness. Yes the circumstances are against you and you have done what you need to do which is telling the truth yet they don't accept fine...good now you know where your persuasion ability is at and your inter social standing. But what you need to do is basically be better, but then again you said you are too competent and they probably don't see that maybe they do and thatd why they gang up on you, either way it's fine cause you are in a environment that is like that and you can't really control that but the way I see it is either stand your ground and strive or leave both have their advantages and disadvantages but from I learned from personal experience also from Jocko is to stand my ground and fight on with competence despite others clearly hating on me. Their character is clearly flawed and that's okay because that is not our responsibility.
@Otenismygod Thank you very much for your reply! Yes, that's what I did. I stayed until the end of my contract. The horrible boss even presented me a recommendation letter that I had never asked for. The Director of the organisation really liked me and maybe that's why that new boss was fighting me. In any case I left and that office was financially mismanaged so it is now closed. It barely lasted 2-3 years after that new boss came despite the fact she had full support from the organisation as a whole to keep it going.
@Otenismygod To this day, I don't know what one can do when working with lazy and not very competent people in high positions. Strangely last year, I got another very incompetent and lazy supervisor. He was literally trying to make me do everything as a trainee (entry level position) even though I got Covid and then presented the work as his and the other team member's (only one part of the work was slightly edited and the majority was untouched). I had tried following Jockos advice to build rapport but it wasn't working. The guy made it clear he just cares about me doing all the work. Lol So after he stole my work, I refused to do further as I was getting increasingly overworked and sick. He kept harassing me so I asked him to share the last few pages of the document between all of us and he kept refusing. His excuse? That he's a different kind of lawyer implying that I've studied the right kind of law we needed (I'm not a lawyer) so I should do it. I'd give him the relevant legal texts but he wouldn't read them. He spent most of his time on calls learning from others what he needs to know rather than studying. Soon it became apparent he had forgotten basic stuff that any law student would know. His position was administrative and mainly working with writing a very specific kind of texts in a team. I bet the team were unwittingly doing all the work while he'd repeat the stuff he learned from one to the other. When it came time for him to write something on his own, it was bad. An external lawyer had to rewrite his part- it was that bad. Still he has a permanent contract so those who don't, tiptoe around him and the boss wouldn't confront him. I dont know what one can do with such people as I couldn't muster the courage to tell our boss that the stolen work was mine (the boss interrupted me way before I reached that point). Later this supervisor was insulting me eg talking about me calling me names as though I'm not there. I was so embarrassed to be in that situation. I couldn't make myself continue working in that entire organisation although its very well known and the work can be very meaningful. I got PTSD like symptoms from what transpired there. Again I'm embarrassed to admit that and I wish I become more like Jocko. I'm a young woman so it's not easy "hanging out with the guys to become part of the team" and I sometimes can get targeted like that no matter what I do. It seems convenient for ppl to designate a slave if they can get away with it. Sorry for the length but that's what I learned as a whole.
I agree with his colleague.... Plenty of times people claim something hasn't been done when it has...for example following process etc, Purely as an attempt to undermine.
Nah, it’s my fault. I should’ve learned better leadership and discipline so I could teach others and make sure everyone including our surgeons stay on point.
I work in a union and there is no resolving things between peers. Every damn one of them run to our supervisor's supervisor to sort things. Drives me freaking NUTS.
That go tell the teacher mentality drives me nuts aswell, keep it simple. This is a big reason why people are so willing to let the government's run our lives when we are perfectly capable of doing it ourselves.
@Michael Ward He clearly hasn't been keeping up with TeachMeGrappling with Coach Brian Peterson or else he'd know the expression - and a whole helluva lotta awesome grappling!
Re: the first question and wondering why you keep them around: one difficulty is that it’s not quite as black and white as “keep your job or get fired”. Some people effectively get a certain amount of latitude to palm their responsibilities off onto others, because their superiors will turn a blind eye as long as they do their job reasonably well in other areas or they do other things that curry favour with the boss or with clients. For example, an experienced and well-known but lazy and rusty lawyer might get away with not doing very much work, and/or behaving inappropriately, on the basis that he is a “rainmaker” who brings lots of clients in.
This was my question it think. I kind of answered it below. ID like to add Jocko was on point when he said "replace in extreme case" I will admit that my dept sometimes takes shortcuts because we get so much business.(which is no excuse) and we are in process of fixing it by hiring more people. We have a 5 star review on google but that doesnt mean we are perfect. Our business keeps going up every year because of outside sales Landlord business is going down because of competition to internet sales i think. I have another realestate company and I will admit I need to focus on this company I dont want to mention on here. It is really difficult to put everything on here but Ive taken ownership and there are things I could have done to mitigate a somewhat proken standard operating procedure on both my company and the one we service.
thats exactly what women/man/people who suffer from domsatic abuse do - find how somehow they are to blame for their partners anger. i love jocko always and his wisdom - but taking blame is not accountability and it never will be.
I imagine Echo is compelled to agree with Jocko when Jocko is waving a blade around. Lol....I do not know if it was intentional but I liked Echo had the pen and Jocko had the sword. Lol
...that "Who is responsible to press record?" question would be a scary position if he was your dad. That look was as sharp as the knife he was holding. *Double Cut* Jui-Jitsu of the Mind.
I went to my boss about people doing the wrong thing.....that's what they are there for....if the boss is unaware of someone being hurt..they should know..this is where leadership is most needed...
I believe this was my Question. Weord having it on here and honored. The outcome was almost my lease not getting renewed. Landlord sells merch in which I alter under same roof. My quality controle was called into question. Landlord has subirdinates in which blames my dept for issues that falls in lap of sales team and their standard operation procedures. I have put more quality control and more disclisures to consumer and owned it after I was told they would find another in store dept to service their product. Im being ambiguous because its an on going issue and landlord is family owned. There is a great deal of nepitism and favoratism gling on. I want everyone to know that my dept definitely needs improvement and I am making adjustments. However they may not be enough. I wish i could say more but .. its an on going thing. Thank yiu so much Jocko for snswering answering my quest. I have ameeting on Wednesday and depending on changes of SOP, I may stay or not.
What is the bosses actual job if your job is never to bother the boss with anything? In my experience of office politics, bosses like to feel like they are relevant in the workplace even when they work very hard at not having to work much.
I think the claim would be " you never told me I had to press record" when I did he did in fact tell him. That would be a false claim. I could be wrong. As always good advice from Jocko though.
this reminds me of that one sakomoto episode where this gang abducts the MC and recruit him as like a personal assistant to the gang boss, but he's so good at everything that everyone stops listening to the gang boss because he's not doing anything for anyone anymore
Hello Jocko, love your work. I saw that you ran out of the discipline equals freedom poster on your website. Hope you get more soon. Keep up the good work, and love your podcast.
Thank you Jocko , well its 11:21am and have a great chance in the future "interview psyche' ward next Wednesday and am prep ping for and I can climb back on ...the psychotherapy train, but for now I'm listening ", Jocko the world needs men like you . If only my dad had been accountable he would have been a great man ! No he f..d around , drank , petty crime and ended up fencing cheap stolen diamonds from a heist and then 6 months in Ford But what did he do , you would have made him smile Jocko , he ran the fr ...betting ring and came out with a sun tan trim from good plain food he probably , even officers in the army deferred to him , why because he wasn't f... afraid of anything that walked crept or came at him . The enemy can only make you piss in your pants if you are afraid , then they set about torturing and when they are finished , look at Mc Gregor's last fight it was horrible outside of the ring what's his name would have crippled him for life and then ... God knows , so this is what these callous souls do this is how they operate , before they go in for the kill , so when he said to a officer , he was a sergeant Major in Burma do this they did it when he said no , no movement . When he had to... yes sadly he did .....Kill, because he knew like you if you gave the enemy a chance then they would come after you , there was no choice , the Japanese were skilled at hunting men down in the forests, they were skilled at booby traps and torture and long range sniping , it was "us" or "them"! But you have not fallen into this trap ! Your are lucky many survive only to come back to civilian life and end up like my dad did or worse , and yes I did love him , I will always remember those Tarzan stories with me as a small child nestled with my head on that hairy giant torso and him taking me out drinking and saying in the pub this is my big son to all the hard men who also used this pub , I was only aged about 14 thewn , mostly stayed in the car whilst he conducted business deals . I felt so safe with him and yes he never laid a finger on me and yes he straitened me out a few times and so on and yes I still miss him and wished I could give him a hug right now , not that he would want that . No man ever frightened him , one put him in hospital by wielding a bar stool to beat him senseless , but he recovered and just shrugged it off , but he's dead jocko , died the way he lived no big fuss , a "warrior" to the last you and he would have gotten along like a house on fire, you probably exasperated trying to tell him and he just telling you to ... a man's man Jocko. But I am no9t him , I am a sensitive soul, I can be courageous and "mad" at times but I am not him . God bless R
Thank you for your words , for some reason they ring true to me making numbers and memories flood back from the year 1999. Thank you again R for evening things out for me today and Jocko's team for the past few months, troupers all of you . From one sensitive soul to another having good times being, all part of one.
thats so nice to here how you gone let somebody talk shit about you when this person self shit to thanks for that i need to think about that when somebody try to get inside my head
Oh I've gone to my boss...isn't that what bosses suppose to know how the team is doing...because it's the boss being unaware of the team is doing....if someone is being aggressive and rude...
I have to re think my approach to conflict. your program is very helpful. How do you deal with someone lying about you, saying you did things you did not. Recently, a security guard refused me entrance to the job site. He would not even speak to my colleague in a room 5 feet away for confirmation. Lucky for me, an event organizer saw me and escorted me in. This same person then told my boss I snuck in to the venue and smelled strongly of alcohol. What I did was deny it and express my shock, my boss said he believed me, but the damage was done, and I lost a shift the following day. What could I have done to prevent this?
Observe first,then ask yourself , what is it i am projecting on the others around me to initiate this reaction, as the other persons actions were simply pointing to the faults you were experiencing with yourself. The other sensitive one was picking that up from you, that's what security guards are there for or so i think.
@@scottishrestorian1999 good points to consider, but how does that relate to the person who escorted me in telling my boss that i snuck in? illegal entry, whilst he himself shook my hand and opened the gate to escort me in. confused here. i do not comprehend how i projected him to outright lie. what am i missing? teach me.
@@jen3800 please ask your escort as it was them that was pulling you leg , no?, can you teach me the lesson now ? ass it was me who entered the con verse at a late on point.
Yes, it is important. And you can alert the boss, though the approach should be as if you are asking for advice. Like Jocko said, first you sort out the situation with your teammate. If it didn't work, prepare a proposal/s for solution/s. Then "reach out" to boss and present your options. What he means in that topic is don't alert your boss right away without any facts/data or exerting effort to fix it as it may come across as you're just complaining and don't want to own responsibilities. And if you talked your options to boss and it looks like what you have may not become affective, then he'll do the decision and action.
Jocko just wondering what happens when there’s a situation just like you explained in the video where the other person makes a false claim and blames you but doesn’t tell you to your face. So they make that claim to everyone you know, but when you go to ask them what’s wrong because they are not speaking with you anymore they just say that everything is fine and there’s nothing to worry about. So the situation just keeps on building for months on end but you don’t have a clear answer for what their false claim is and when you finally do they just say they never made that claim. How do you move forward? Especially when you find out it’s something you didn’t do but since it’s been so many months your reputation has been ruined.
Did Jocko really just roast Echo up to 2:50...by answering a question with what sounds like a not-so-hypothetical situation, while he just sat there and took it? That sounds kind of petty and off-putting. Kind of ruins the buddy energy and dynamic they usually have in responding to these questions (even though it is more Jocko who answers and Echo just well... "echoes" him more often than not.)
Echo fucked up and it was his job. If you've ever been in the military, a CO will never let you forget a mistake, no matter how long ago. It seems brutal, but its a lesson in humility,
I think Echo is doing more than just pressing record, he has more value than that. He is asking questions and presenting some more insight and different views. This sometimes represents the thinking of the viewers and gives Jocko more things to talk about or let's him know when some things aren't clear and need more explanation. Also is he really only pressing a button? Isn't he also making sure the equipment is there up and running? Like a technician? So saying he has only one purpose and if he forgets that he is of no value is questionable, isn't it?
I think he was making the situation up as an example. Echo has a lot of responsibilities, like you said, including editing and so on. I am sure Jocko is aware of that :)
Echo brings a LOT to the table, Jocko. He brings the relief, sweet and mighty guy, very chill vibe, always a different viewpoint to offer.
Echo never reads my letters 🤦♀️
Never in a million years did I think I would be rabidly digesting short "self help" videos from a jacked dude named Jocko
Always nice to soak in positive knowledge, even if you are a good path already 👍🏻
So true I used to think military men were a bunch of jarhead protein junkie savages,
Wow did this sidekick me in the face, the lessons, eloquence, and humility,
from some goliath has really shattered these false narratives in my head,
and transcend to grasping new and greater rungs.
Started using some kettlebells and felt fucking amazing.
Whenever I get bored or unmotivated working from home.
I pick up that kettlebell and say, this is your procrastination, buckle up.
Makes me feel incredible after a work out, going back to data tables.
And here we are...
Same. I dismissed Jocko because of his muscles until I saw him with Jordan Peterson. Now that I’ve listened to Jocko I’m grateful. I like that 1) he is easy to understand, 2) he’s practical, and 3) he has real world experience in a high level organization so the strategies are trustworthy.
I completely agree sir same here
Humility is the key to learning. If you can’t admit you need to learn you never will.
The Modern Stoic - Haa are you joking...I am sooo much more infused with humility than you. 😂
The Modern Stoic - Too late for a humility match. My humility far surpasses yours so much that it’s extremely humiliating.
The Modern Stoic - GOOD. If my humiliation far surpasses yours, then I have scored higher on the Humble score board than you. Therefore my humility must be off the charts! Your humility on the other hand is not even fit to be here!
The Modern Stoic - Haaa I was laughing in class after looking at your reply! Glad to know you posses was the power of good humor as well. Have a good one and stay humble my friend!
I absolutely admire the bond between Jocko and Echo.
Well that's nice
The first half of the question immediately made me think of Bill Burr's bit about how women argue. Basically if they know they're right they'll stick to the point and hammer it home until you're begging for forgiveness. If they're in the wrong though they go rogue, dredging up personal stuff they know you're sensitive about. So if they start doing the latter, don't rise to it. Just weather the storm because you've won at that point.
The psychological term for it is called deflecting.
Not relevant to your post, but nice Oddworld profile pic!
Wtf kind of weak insecure woman are you guys finding?
Sw33ts These women are the Karen 2.0’s. They are the updated & graduated versions of Karen. The Karen 2.0’s are the millennials who evolved from the original baby boomer Karen.
Despite what HolyCodzta said, there is no winning against a Karen 2.0. They’ve mastered the art of deception. It’s impossible to know they are weak & insecure until it’s too late.
The Karen 2.0’s are the most advanced versions in the field right now. This is all apart of their grand master plan to destroy the world. We must warn others of the Karen 2.0 before it’s too late.
Sw33ts - Exactly. Whose getting after it?
Key is to say I’ll take ownership while holding a knife in your hand 😆
😂
"You can't disrespect me if you have no respect for yourself". Fantastic and very succulent point! 👍
These guys are becoming part of my daily routine. Love it.
“Yes sir I do” 😂😂😂 first few minutes sounded like echo was getting told off 😂😂😂😂
I was looking for this comment :D
freedom jay same bro but couldn’t find it so wrote my own one haha
Am I sensing correctly that the whole "record button" situation actually happen? Probably with different outcome tho ;)
I was thinking that too 😂🤙🏾
Echo forgot to press record, the internet knows!
Echo looked like a guilty dog during that part so probably
Watch the knife for the truth
😂😂😂
Rule (1) Never disagree with a man holding a knife 😂 😂 😂
Especially with a name like jocko
Unless you are holding a gun. Though if the guy holding the knife is Jocko, the gun scenario only works if there is sufficient space between you and him.
That first point is so right; who cares if they're wrong? I work in the service industry as a Barista and have customers telling me I'm wrong all day sunrise to sunset. And these are objective statements, not agree to disagree moments.
And you know what I do? I politely inform them of what should be corrected, and if they won't acknowledge that I nod my head, say 'sorry about that, I'l sort it', and fix the stated problem. If possible, I try and take steps to prevent it from happening again.
To summarise, I do the best thing I can possibly do, because it is not my responsibility to educate those who don't want to learn. I try to inform and if that isn't wanted I let it go and move on.
Cause you know, those customers have to live their lives being wrong about some very basic things, ordering coffees and constantly not getting what they want, for instance (which sounds like a special hell).
That's THEIR hell, and if they don't want my help I will simply keep living the best I can enjoying making good coffee. There's no reason I should be affected whatsoever.
Imaging being Echo in this video and having to sit with jocko pointing a knife at you
Whoa I just noticed that
Well, he's never forgotten to press that record button has he ?
Echo has a pen in his hand so it's fine, as the pen is mightier than the knife
Jacko - you really broke down that question brilliantly into the three core issues. I admire your clear thinking and very simple examples that I can relate to easily. Thankyou!
Yes SiR !
Yeah, Jacko is the best...
I've never had the privilege of serving our country, but I've always been intrigued by the soldier mindset and how they live their lives, make decisions, rationalize things, etc. Everything always seems to be under control at all times, everything is structured and organized. It's very fascinating to me and something I've spent a lot of time watching and trying to learn. I appreciate channels like this and I thank you Jocko, for sharing your insights.
Love ,absolutely LOVE !!!!! Getting notifications of a New Jocko vide being published just as I’m waked out dazed of a days labor, family time and just as I’m about to rest my head flat onto my bed for a 4am shift ....BAM💥 Some insight and knowledge gets dropped and becomes a must watch 👊🤟🏻
Yes!!! Same here!
Ex Zac to me hear tae...Sorry , i meant to say, in my excitement,,,YES me TOO !! thanks @zaky an @SorrowJoy too.
You guys are not only speaking truth but cracking me up while doing it. Awesome chemistry yall have developed
Lions don't often concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.
Lions have no concept of what an opinion even is
sgtslaughter54 you get that off a cereal box?
GearZNet Na from GOT
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@@GearZNet that was a bit frosty !
I’ve never seen a non-pumped bicep with some many fucking striations before. Goddamn Echo.
I honestly waited and waited and thought, dang Jocko isn't going to relate this back to Jiu-jitsu? What's going on??? Sure as the sun sets, 7:19 and there it is, almost brought a tear to my non-shooting eye...
It sounds like Joko does his therapy with echo on the podcast. Smart man 😊love the boldness and honesty. Great material
When Jocko talks with a knife in his hand😂. Man I will be intimidated talking with him.
Can you imagine Jocko as president, sitting at a round table full of politicians, with that knife in his hand, discussing national security issues?
on question number one, there are people that won't take back responsibility and will keep attacking you. If you keep taking responsibility you will eventually be their slave, doing everything for them, since they enjoy watching you work and do nothing themselves.
How do you deal with people ganging up on you all while taking advantage of your skills and work?
I was just an intern and another intern misinformed me about something. An employee attacked me about it and I said the truth that I was given wrong schedule from the other intern. The employee immediately said that I am basically lying (took the other intern's side cause they're of the same ethnicity and frequently talking in their own language) and complained to the boss.
I was always doing lots of work for the boss and yet the boss kept me on the phone for 2 hours trying to humiliate me and blame me, the intern for everything wrong in the office. AND yet the boss also had the nerve to ask me to do more incredibly time consuming work for her to be delivered that same day outside working hours!!! couldn't even end that awful call. The situation was very heavy for almost 2 months and I felt like all the employees knew and wondered about all this.
I left because my internship ended but what can one do if thats their actual job? No HR to turn to, it felt quite a stupid but helpless situation to be involved in
Either you fucked up more than you realised or you were in a toxic workplace.... in really toxic workplaces the staff and management have a way of coming together to gang up on the newest easiest to malign member, especially if you expose a giant flaw in how they do things.... you're making them ALL feel inept so they will ALL come together to get you the fuck outta there before they acknowledge how inept they ALL are.
You have to either play the game on their terms or get the fuck out of there.... and if you have any integrity at all you are not going to be able to play on their terms.
Good news for you is that it hurts and is confusing but it means you dodged a bullet.... the only thing worse than being ostracized from a toxic workplace, is being trapped in one.
@@adamimberti6948 I am pretty sure that the main problem was me being too competent. Actually when the new boss came in, people were nodding towards me whenever something difficult needed to be done.
I wasnt the newest one in the office but the new intern whom they dared not pick on cause then it'd make them look bad to our sending organization. They were trying to promote a story that I was the 1 with the problem. Plus the new intern they clearly pitied- they didnt know what tasks to give her because of her limited skills, she has just a high school education, always tries to make excuses and avoid work and they seemed to feed her insecurity esp. against me.
Heck just yesterday I was told that apparently I was nearly fired because there was gossip about me that I supposedly slept with some colleague from *another* company during a work event. Poor guy had made the mistake to visit my hotel to bring me aspirin cause noone else was answering my call and there was no receptionist available (no comment on that but it's fact). Ofc I hadnt slept with the poor guy that I had just met! And even if I had, I dont see how thats "illegal" considering we have a couple within our very office where the girl moved in because of her bf.
I still cant understand them and they scared me to the point Im now reading psychology stuff just to be sure I know how to deal with this sort of people.
I recommend seeing this through a lense of humility and objectiveness. Yes the circumstances are against you and you have done what you need to do which is telling the truth yet they don't accept fine...good now you know where your persuasion ability is at and your inter social standing. But what you need to do is basically be better, but then again you said you are too competent and they probably don't see that maybe they do and thatd why they gang up on you, either way it's fine cause you are in a environment that is like that and you can't really control that but the way I see it is either stand your ground and strive or leave both have their advantages and disadvantages but from I learned from personal experience also from Jocko is to stand my ground and fight on with competence despite others clearly hating on me. Their character is clearly flawed and that's okay because that is not our responsibility.
@Otenismygod Thank you very much for your reply! Yes, that's what I did. I stayed until the end of my contract. The horrible boss even presented me a recommendation letter that I had never asked for. The Director of the organisation really liked me and maybe that's why that new boss was fighting me.
In any case I left and that office was financially mismanaged so it is now closed. It barely lasted 2-3 years after that new boss came despite the fact she had full support from the organisation as a whole to keep it going.
@Otenismygod To this day, I don't know what one can do when working with lazy and not very competent people in high positions.
Strangely last year, I got another very incompetent and lazy supervisor. He was literally trying to make me do everything as a trainee (entry level position) even though I got Covid and then presented the work as his and the other team member's (only one part of the work was slightly edited and the majority was untouched). I had tried following Jockos advice to build rapport but it wasn't working. The guy made it clear he just cares about me doing all the work. Lol
So after he stole my work, I refused to do further as I was getting increasingly overworked and sick. He kept harassing me so I asked him to share the last few pages of the document between all of us and he kept refusing.
His excuse? That he's a different kind of lawyer implying that I've studied the right kind of law we needed (I'm not a lawyer) so I should do it. I'd give him the relevant legal texts but he wouldn't read them. He spent most of his time on calls learning from others what he needs to know rather than studying. Soon it became apparent he had forgotten basic stuff that any law student would know. His position was administrative and mainly working with writing a very specific kind of texts in a team. I bet the team were unwittingly doing all the work while he'd repeat the stuff he learned from one to the other.
When it came time for him to write something on his own, it was bad. An external lawyer had to rewrite his part- it was that bad. Still he has a permanent contract so those who don't, tiptoe around him and the boss wouldn't confront him.
I dont know what one can do with such people as I couldn't muster the courage to tell our boss that the stolen work was mine (the boss interrupted me way before I reached that point). Later this supervisor was insulting me eg talking about me calling me names as though I'm not there. I was so embarrassed to be in that situation.
I couldn't make myself continue working in that entire organisation although its very well known and the work can be very meaningful. I got PTSD like symptoms from what transpired there. Again I'm embarrassed to admit that and I wish I become more like Jocko. I'm a young woman so it's not easy "hanging out with the guys to become part of the team" and I sometimes can get targeted like that no matter what I do. It seems convenient for ppl to designate a slave if they can get away with it. Sorry for the length but that's what I learned as a whole.
The "Lead from the back technique" has it's own set of challenges, such as reeling in the monster that you created before he consumes you...
I agree with his colleague.... Plenty of times people claim something hasn't been done when it has...for example following process etc, Purely as an attempt to undermine.
The not hitting record thing get's brought up a lot. Makes me wonder how often it's actually happened.
these excerpts are amazing. i would listen to jocko respond to people's questions all day long. plus knife in hand, lol im dying laughing
He does have biceps that go on for days though. Brings that to the table.
I love how this man just casually gestures with a knife 😂
Echo doesn’t seem to enjoy that knife 🔪 and the scenario set up. #layers 🤣😏🤣
"Doctor, I was asleep and you amputated the wrong leg. but you know what, it was my fault." So I'm going to pay you double for that.
Are u serious or sarcastic
Nah, it’s my fault. I should’ve learned better leadership and discipline so I could teach others and make sure everyone including our surgeons stay on point.
I work in a union and there is no resolving things between peers. Every damn one of them run to our supervisor's supervisor to sort things. Drives me freaking NUTS.
That go tell the teacher mentality drives me nuts aswell, keep it simple. This is a big reason why people are so willing to let the government's run our lives when we are perfectly capable of doing it ourselves.
This dude Echo has more striation than Piccolo.
Michael Ward you could’ve just said like a brick house, but okay, a brick shithouse it is 😂
@Michael Ward He clearly hasn't been keeping up with TeachMeGrappling with Coach Brian Peterson or else he'd know the expression - and a whole helluva lotta awesome grappling!
Your Piccolo reference made me nostalgic. Echo would fit right in with the Nameks though, wouldn't he?
feels like Goku and Vegeta podcast 😂
Echo's biceps are ridiculous
Re: the first question and wondering why you keep them around: one difficulty is that it’s not quite as black and white as “keep your job or get fired”. Some people effectively get a certain amount of latitude to palm their responsibilities off onto others, because their superiors will turn a blind eye as long as they do their job reasonably well in other areas or they do other things that curry favour with the boss or with clients. For example, an experienced and well-known but lazy and rusty lawyer might get away with not doing very much work, and/or behaving inappropriately, on the basis that he is a “rainmaker” who brings lots of clients in.
LOL...My man describing how to deal with people personally attacking him whilst holding a knife!
1:07 O.o
Silent Echo is Guilty Echo.
That brief pause AND the shifting eyes?
Jocko got him good, didn't he?
This was my question it think. I kind of answered it below. ID like to add Jocko was on point when he said "replace in extreme case" I will admit that my dept sometimes takes shortcuts because we get so much business.(which is no excuse) and we are in process of fixing it by hiring more people. We have a 5 star review on google but that doesnt mean we are perfect. Our business keeps going up every year because of outside sales Landlord business is going down because of competition to internet sales i think. I have another realestate company and I will admit I need to focus on this company I dont want to mention on here. It is really difficult to put everything on here but Ive taken ownership and there are things I could have done to mitigate a somewhat proken standard operating procedure on both my company and the one we service.
thats exactly what women/man/people who suffer from domsatic abuse do - find how somehow they are to blame for their partners anger. i love jocko always and his wisdom - but taking blame is not accountability and it never will be.
Jocko for President 2024!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Wish I had a friend like Echo C
Echo- ” I dont believe I’ve been a corporate scenario “. Lucky lucky man...
I find it hilarious that Jocko is waiving a knife around during this conversation.
Anyways, CONGRATULATIONS on the Black Belt Echo!
I love these podcast
I imagine Echo is compelled to agree with Jocko when Jocko is waving a blade around. Lol....I do not know if it was intentional but I liked Echo had the pen and Jocko had the sword. Lol
...that "Who is responsible to press record?" question would be a scary position if he was your dad. That look was as sharp as the knife he was holding. *Double Cut* Jui-Jitsu of the Mind.
I went to my boss about people doing the wrong thing.....that's what they are there for....if the boss is unaware of someone being hurt..they should know..this is where leadership is most needed...
If you blame others the other has already won or maybe not , whatever, i am just an auld elder git who knows not,sorry.
Kinda lit up echo for a sec lol. Awesome
0:23 What should you do if you're being personally attacked? Jocko says, "Always carry a knife" lol
I love watching Jocko speaking normally with the knife in the hand, he is a real bastard xd
Whoa speaking truth. Figuring out how to execute plans. Not easy.
I believe this was my Question. Weord having it on here and honored. The outcome was almost my lease not getting renewed. Landlord sells merch in which I alter under same roof. My quality controle was called into question. Landlord has subirdinates in which blames my dept for issues that falls in lap of sales team and their standard operation procedures. I have put more quality control and more disclisures to consumer and owned it after I was told they would find another in store dept to service their product. Im being ambiguous because its an on going issue and landlord is family owned. There is a great deal of nepitism and favoratism gling on. I want everyone to know that my dept definitely needs improvement and I am making adjustments. However they may not be enough. I wish i could say more but .. its an on going thing. Thank yiu so much Jocko for snswering answering my quest. I have ameeting on Wednesday and depending on changes of SOP, I may stay or not.
You cannot learn what you think you know
What is the bosses actual job if your job is never to bother the boss with anything? In my experience of office politics, bosses like to feel like they are relevant in the workplace even when they work very hard at not having to work much.
I think the claim would be " you never told me I had to press record" when I did he did in fact tell him. That would be a false claim. I could be wrong. As always good advice from Jocko though.
Shoot the double, get side control, go for arm bar. Simple
2:49 Seemed like a lowkey flex right there.
Was made in jest, and funny. But.... subtle.
this reminds me of that one sakomoto episode where this gang abducts the MC and recruit him as like a personal assistant to the gang boss, but he's so good at everything that everyone stops listening to the gang boss because he's not doing anything for anyone anymore
Love you Echo
I HAVE TO DEAL WITH PERSONAL ATTACKS ERRYDAY YO!!!
I GOT DEM SKINNY KNEES WHILE WEARING SKINNY JEANS
Hello Jocko, love your work. I saw that you ran out of the discipline equals freedom poster on your website. Hope you get more soon. Keep up the good work, and love your podcast.
Thank you Jocko , well its 11:21am and have a great chance in the future "interview psyche' ward next Wednesday and am prep ping for and I can climb back on ...the psychotherapy train, but for now I'm listening ", Jocko the world needs men like you .
If only my dad had been accountable he would have been a great man ! No he f..d around , drank , petty crime and ended up fencing cheap stolen diamonds from a heist and then 6 months in Ford But what did he do , you would have made him smile Jocko , he ran the fr ...betting ring and came out with a sun tan trim from good plain food he probably , even officers in the army deferred to him , why because he wasn't f... afraid of anything that walked crept or came at him .
The enemy can only make you piss in your pants if you are afraid , then they set about torturing and when they are finished , look at Mc Gregor's last fight it was horrible outside of the ring what's his name would have crippled him for life and then ... God knows , so this is what these callous souls do this is how they operate , before they go in for the kill , so when he said to a officer , he was a sergeant Major in Burma do this they did it when he said no , no movement .
When he had to... yes sadly he did .....Kill, because he knew like you if you gave the enemy a chance then they would come after you , there was no choice , the Japanese were skilled at hunting men down in the forests, they were skilled at booby traps and torture and long range sniping , it was "us" or "them"!
But you have not fallen into this trap !
Your are lucky many survive only to come back to civilian life and end up like my dad did or worse , and yes I did love him , I will always remember those Tarzan stories with me as a small child nestled with my head on that hairy giant torso and him taking me out drinking and saying in the pub this is my big son to all the hard men who also used this pub , I was only aged about 14 thewn , mostly stayed in the car whilst he conducted business deals .
I felt so safe with him and yes he never laid a finger on me and yes he straitened me out a few times and so on and yes I still miss him and wished I could give him a hug right now , not that he would want that . No man ever frightened him , one put him in hospital by wielding a bar stool to beat him senseless , but he recovered and just shrugged it off , but he's dead jocko , died the way he lived no big fuss , a "warrior" to the last you and he would have gotten along like a house on fire, you probably exasperated trying to tell him and he just telling you to ... a man's man Jocko.
But I am no9t him , I am a sensitive soul, I can be courageous and "mad" at times but I am not him .
God bless R
Thank you for your words , for some reason they ring true to me making numbers and memories flood back from the year 1999.
Thank you again R for evening things out for me today and Jocko's team for the past few months, troupers all of you .
From one sensitive soul to another having good times being, all part of one.
@@scottishrestorian1999 Thats Ok .
@@richardprice9730 people say i'm a dreamer , well for sure i am , a joker of a drummer!
kid od pa
How to I address when it may seem like I'm attacking when I'm really just challenging to greatness.
4:30 love that laugh 😂
Jocko is like the most evil good person ever
Jocko:who didn't press record
Echo:ok put the knife down then we can talk
Many thxs.
How close a friendship do you need to have with Jocko that you are perfectly fine sitting opposite him when he's got a knife in his hand?? 😝
I realize whereever i go or whatever i do people bully me 😢
thats so nice to here how you gone let somebody talk shit about you when this person self shit to thanks for that i need to think about that when somebody try to get inside my head
Love the advice,thanks guys 💪
i still think it's funny how he's always waving a knife around
Smoke a massive, massive spliff. Works for me. 👍
Oh I've gone to my boss...isn't that what bosses suppose to know how the team is doing...because it's the boss being unaware of the team is doing....if someone is being aggressive and rude...
Is that not just your internal voice , or ego,telling you how you are feeling inside yourself and it's not the other one .
I have to re think my approach to conflict. your program is very helpful. How do you deal with someone lying about you, saying you did things you did not. Recently, a security guard refused me entrance to the job site. He would not even speak to my colleague in a room 5 feet away for confirmation. Lucky for me, an event organizer saw me and escorted me in.
This same person then told my boss I snuck in to the venue and smelled strongly of alcohol.
What I did was deny it and express my shock, my boss said he believed me, but the damage was done, and I lost a shift the following day.
What could I have done to prevent this?
Observe first,then ask yourself , what is it i am projecting on the others around me to initiate this reaction, as the other persons actions were simply pointing to the faults you were experiencing with yourself.
The other sensitive one was picking that up from you, that's what security guards are there for or so i think.
@@scottishrestorian1999 good points to consider, but how does that relate to the person who escorted me in telling my boss that i snuck in? illegal entry, whilst he himself shook my hand and opened the gate to escort me in. confused here.
i do not comprehend how i projected him to outright lie. what am i missing? teach me.
@@jen3800 please ask your escort as it was them that was pulling you leg , no?, can you teach me the lesson now ?
ass it was me who entered the con verse at a late on point.
I disagree with the team question. When is it okay to alert the boss? Isn't his leadership important?
Yes, it is important. And you can alert the boss, though the approach should be as if you are asking for advice.
Like Jocko said, first you sort out the situation with your teammate. If it didn't work, prepare a proposal/s for solution/s. Then "reach out" to boss and present your options.
What he means in that topic is don't alert your boss right away without any facts/data or exerting effort to fix it as it may come across as you're just complaining and don't want to own responsibilities.
And if you talked your options to boss and it looks like what you have may not become affective, then he'll do the decision and action.
its like a guy at work talks sh*t about you to your face and then runs to the manager to talk sh*t about you behind your back.
Thank you, Jocko. I literally just got assaulted in the gym locker room today
Who is in charge of pressing record?
...... Me
Jocko just wondering what happens when there’s a situation just like you explained in the video where the other person makes a false claim and blames you but doesn’t tell you to your face. So they make that claim to everyone you know, but when you go to ask them what’s wrong because they are not speaking with you anymore they just say that everything is fine and there’s nothing to worry about. So the situation just keeps on building for months on end but you don’t have a clear answer for what their false claim is and when you finally do they just say they never made that claim. How do you move forward? Especially when you find out it’s something you didn’t do but since it’s been so many months your reputation has been ruined.
Hopefully my question is pretty clear and concise, trying to shorten it as much as possible
Why is he holding a knife?
Psychological warfare😂 The knife is doing the talking.
I think Jocko should start taking phone calls. Some folks have to explain their questions better.
Did Jocko really just roast Echo up to 2:50...by answering a question with what sounds like a not-so-hypothetical situation, while he just sat there and took it?
That sounds kind of petty and off-putting. Kind of ruins the buddy energy and dynamic they usually have in responding to these questions (even though it is more Jocko who answers and Echo just well... "echoes" him more often than not.)
It was the reality though
Echo fucked up and it was his job.
If you've ever been in the military,
a CO will never let you forget a mistake,
no matter how long ago.
It seems brutal, but its a lesson in humility,
1:08 sounded like echo was in trouble and getting scolded like a little kid😂
Amazing
Echo looking jaaaaaaaaaacked
Another Episode of "Knife Chat".
Damm, why you do Echo like that lol
He's scapegoating
Wielding a knife
What’s the story behind Jocko holding a knife? Is there a purpose or is it because he’s just that cool
I jus wanted to see if there was an answer...
G,WEN have i your ear ?
Why the knife?
Yup.
I think Echo is doing more than just pressing record, he has more value than that. He is asking questions and presenting some more insight and different views. This sometimes represents the thinking of the viewers and gives Jocko more things to talk about or let's him know when some things aren't clear and need more explanation. Also is he really only pressing a button? Isn't he also making sure the equipment is there up and running? Like a technician? So saying he has only one purpose and if he forgets that he is of no value is questionable, isn't it?
I think he was making the situation up as an example. Echo has a lot of responsibilities, like you said, including editing and so on. I am sure Jocko is aware of that :)
I didn't understand a thing that went on here. I just heard two muscle heads arguing over who gets to bench press 1st.