The Original Plans for Disneyland Australia
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- The 90s were a wild time for the relationship between Disney and Australia. The Disney Renaissance was in full effect and an almost unintended side effect was the growing Disney community in Australia. Up until this time, Disney had very little to do with Australia. There was no Disney stores, Disney channel, cruises or theme parks so the growth of this community was rather surprising.
And then a rumour of a possible Disneyland started floating around. And it would take almost 20 years for this rumour to surface as fact.
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Disney please come back to Australia. If we had a Disneyland here I would have the chance to be a proud Annual pass holder. I really miss visiting the Disney store also. Not having to get an expensive plane ticket would be such a relief. It's really difficult being a Disney fan in Australia.
There's the Disney Words promo at Woolworths
@@paulorocky Im not paying over $30 repeatly just for plastic tiles
paulorocky that sucks
I think they are losing kids in Australia since Saturday Disney was cancelled so it’s only on Foxtel which Barely anyone has
Elizabeth Falconer I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have foxtel
That was during Michael Eisner's bad idea era, Hong Kong isn't a bad park but I believe the culture and people of Australia would have made this park so much more successful!
In terms of strategy, Hong Kong was actually a far better location at that time. Of course we all know how this turned out today. But Hong Kong is far more impressive in numbers even today. A tiny and very rich city with only 7 million locals but with close to 58 million tourists per year, yeah 58 millions!!!. (Australia is only around 8 million tourists per year) But Disney actually killed the HK park themselves since there was a Tokyo and Shanghai park in close proximity. If I had to choose I would go to Tokyo every time.
HongKong is almost at the centre of Asia-Pacific region if one looks closely. The flight time from the extreme northeast of China to HK is about the same as people flying in from Java or India. HK Disney is seaside so if decades later Disney want to bring their cruise line to HK they have no problem(HK already have a sizeable cruise market). HK have complete law system prevents any food safety problem from happening. And from what the commies have promised, HK will remain automonous till 2047. By that time the only-child generation will be in charge, since the spoiled only-childs don't like to be ordered around they probabally would even democratize mainland. So don't have to worry about possibilities of trade wars jeopodizing the investments.
Shanghai Disney is just a bad idea c'est ça.
It may be cheaper and less crowded to go to China, and I would have done it, however by the time you put in everything that it takes to go to China, $300 just for a Visa, and all that, it is actually cheaper and easier to go to Tokyo.
HK Disney is seaside so if decades later Disney want to bring their cruise line to HK they have no problem(HK already have a sizeable cruise market). HK have complete law system prevents any food safety problem from happening. And from what the commies have promised, HK will remain automonous till 2047. By that time the only-child generation will be in charge, since the spoiled only-childs don't like to be ordered around they probabally would even democratize mainland. So don't have to worry about possibilities of trade wars jeopodizing the investments.
Hong Kong was a pilot program for the whole of China. Once the proof of concept was there, on to Shanghai.
Dang it Michael Eisner! I would love a Disney park in Australia! Plus I’ve always wanted to work at a Disney park!
I can't believe how well these videos are put together. Can't get enough!
Extremely well researched and well put-together video. As someone who has twice spent a full 24 hours on several planes to go to DisneyWorld Orlando from Aus it's so disappointing knowing that there could have been one in Aus.
I’m literally on one of those planes right now! Just 9 hours to go...
Unfortunately the long travel seems to be part of the Disney package for Australians. - Dom
@@ReviewTyme the 16 hour flight from LA to Melbourne does not get any faster each time you do it 😑
We have Disneyland HK and Tokyo Disneyland less than 10 hours away. LA itself is 14 hours away.
@@pavementpounder7502 Melbourne to La is 14 hours there 16 hours back. I should know I just did it a few weeks ago. For some reason it's longer on return.
Yeah I know, I've done Perth-Sydney to LA return (inc. New York to LA back). It usually takes longer going east to west than west to east because the jet stream moves west to east (Corriolis effect), and commercial aircraft ride the jet stream. The difference is large even going across Australia: Perth to Melbourne is usually 3 hours 40 mins, Melbourne to Perth about 4 hours 10 mins.
The population of Australia is about 25 million. WDW in Florida gets about 19 million guests a year.
You might see some Disney Cruise line doing a Australia/New Zealand run tho. Ships are much easier to theme and deploy than theme parks and the US based Disney Cruise Line has been very successful. A Disney Cruise on the gold coast with stop over for Semi-submersibles reef (Nemo) tours...would seem a natural.
Walt Disney World receives over 50 million visitors a year, not 19 million.
You’re assuming that each person would only visit once. You’re also not counting tourists. Many sites in Australia get just as many visitors annually.
Phaynes LMAO, no. Australia itself only receives 8 million visitors a year, that’s less than all 4 of the parks at Disney World.
i thought disney cruises already did do australian cruises?
You'd have to add in the NZ population too growing to 5million in the coming years. 30million+ pop Oceania would be the specific market Disney would target.
The least they could do is build an Australian Pavilion in World Showcase Epcot.
That will never happen too similar to the US.
Or an Australia addition to Animal Kingdom for a new land
@@joshberninger8355 yesss
@@dvferyance Nah, they have Canada.
@@joshberninger8355 Now that I could see happening.
Coming from someone who grew up in LA going to the original Disneyland I find the fact that they still don’t have a Disney theme park in Australia to be ridiculous :(
If Disney ever builds a 7th Disneyland, I hope it’s in Australia. Either Sydney or Melbourne.
It'll be in Adelaide just to piss everyone off
No more then likely they would put it in a northern part of the country probably Qld near the Great Barrier Reef (finding nemo) and it’s good for tourism if they move it away from a big city
@@binnimayunboxing makes sense
Probably the gold coast, that's where most parks are, but if not, it should be in Melbourne, we really need more than just Luna Park, since Sydney's got all the good stuff
@@TourbillonV16 other theme parks won’t be able to compete
Still waiting for Disneyland Antarctica.
Duston McCreary lol
Still waiting for Disneyland Texas
Actually that would be a great publicity stunt and just theme a science research station in Antarctica in Disney stuff and call it Disneyland Antarctic , it can also simultaneously be the smallest theme park in the world.
i personally get the vibes that Disney will come to either Thailand or Australia next. idk why but i have a feeling. if u think about it, Disney wanted to build in Tokyo since Disneyland opened (thats why Nara Dreamland happened) and in Shanghai since the 2000s and both happened. I truly believe that Australia is next.
why am i reading this is snapes voice 😅
Disneyland Singapore would be are more likely choice or Malaysia because of the fact that they are major halfway stop when travelling by plane around the world and they have the money to support it
@@binnimayunboxing No lol the Hong Kong park was originally a Singapore park before they moved to Hong Kong because the government in Singapore was a pain to deal with
i WANT Disney Australia. I don't want to spend a LOT of money to have a 16 hour flight and spend all my savings to go to America.
With the new Disney Cruise Line ships coming to the fleet I'd expect to see one home ported in Australia seasonally to test the demand in that region. It gives a lot of data about local interest and potential willingness of people to travel to that location for a Disney experience.
We have heard that rumour too, with one of the older ships being tested in Australia for a season. Let's hope it proves to be true! - Luke
This turned out to be accurate. I'd dare say they've seen quite a lot of interest. Enough to have the Wonder coming back until 2025/6 season at least (though not yet officially announced the Sydney port already has dates for the Wonder in that season).
Oooo I'd heard about Disney Wharf, but I didn't realise they'd planned a park on the Gold Coast too! Another great video :)
Maybe one day Australia would get either Disney or Universal. They deserve a main line theme park
It would have to be a small one but they do deserve a proper Disney or Universal.
Maybe if Australia’s population gets bigger
At least Australia didn't end up with Hong Kong's Disneyland. Michael Eisner tried to pay as little as possible on that park. He even tried to only build the front of the castle and not the back. 🙄 it's a lot better now though.
yeah but it would be way better themed than any of the shit we've got here (dreamworld switches theming every seven years or so)
A bad Disneyland is better than no Disneyland
With how much success Disey is have in recent years, maybe there will be a Disney theme park here in Australia
Let’s hope so, even though Disney’s current focus seems to mostly be on China, hopefully they haven’t forgotten about little old Australia down here! - Luke
ReviewTyme when it gets here I’ll be too old god dammit
For those who are in Melbourne, you may have heard that there's plans on making a $100 million dollar indoor waterpark.
I know it’s currently only a small city but if a small Disney park was built in Maryborough (birthplace of P.L. Travers) I think it would be really cool and boost their economy and tourists
👏🏼 brilliant work yet again
I'm from the uK and think Disney Australia would be perfect (as long as it's in the north and not the cold end)
Subscribed! Love your work! Can you please do a Paramount Studios video that was planned for Melbourne's Docklands.
To think Australia could've had a Disneyland open when I was 10 just broke my little heart hahahah
The next one's gotta be in Australia... please!
there will be in sydney
This is sad because I have to travel so damn far from Australia to other country for Disneyland
I can't help wondering if "The Rescuers Down Under" (1990) was part of their strategy.
You can add this to one of Michael Eisner worst move. If he didn’t step in then the Disney Park would be build.
Disney was borderline bankrupt in 1984 before Eisner took over.
At this point why isnt there a Disneyland in Australia yet like its getting to the point were it feels like Disney dosnt want eanything to do with Australia
Can't say I'd like a Disney wharf in Sydney Harbour, but a Disneyland park in Western Sydney would be great.
At this stage, we would love Disney to try anything in Australia! - Luke
Awsome video, I hope we get a disney here!!!
I want a Disneyland in Melbourne
Willby nah. Sad as it is for us. Queensland has a far better theme park environment. Better weather, near beachfront and more clear space!
Is there Disney land in Australia
If there is what like state?
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“Disneyland without Disney is just lame”
Yeah cause Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySeas suck huh? I mention them because they aren’t owned by Disney. They’re a franchise.
I believe he said "land"
My accent might make it hard to understand, but the line is “Disneyland without Disney is just land.”
We love the Tokyo parks! - Dom
Depends on what "Disneyland" really means. Shanghai DL is at best "China's Disney" - land rather than "Disneyland in China". The Disney Company knew that the Anaheim - based Americana called "Disneyland" is not going to cut in a country not connected or familiar with America so Shanghai DL was designed to be a "Disneyland" in an abstract sense with a dose of Chines culture in the mix...
Tard
i feel conflicted bc disneyland aus wouldve been so good but since im from perth i wouldve had to travel to qld. but also ive been to hk disneyland and it was AMAZING!! one of the best days of my life. im hoping to go to disneyland paris since i live in scotland now but its still quite far :(( still we have disney stores here but none anywhere near me
I’m still waiting for Disney Land in Vietnam for sure .... still haven’t lost hope yet
The Idea that Australia would have a Disney park isn’t smart from a business point of view.
Disney have 2 park in the US, 2 in China, 1 in France (to cover Europe) and 1 in japan.
All these countries have a population of over 100 millions (again we should consider the whole of Europe population regarding the France park).
Australia population is around 24 millions which hardly attractive in comparison to the others (and that’s why perhaps Disney didn’t accept Dubai’s offer to open a park there too)
china has 2 if u count hong kong
@@lol_909 Hong kong makes sense in the long run, as it is in VERY close proximity to Southeast Asia, which has around 655 million people in it.
I swear to God I saw more Filipinos in Tomorrowland than actual Hong kongers when I got there. Me included lmao.
The US has 6 parks
5 million guests a year? The park would have to be tiny to be finically viable. Disneyland Hong Kong wanted 5.6 in it’s opening year and only got 5.2, and at opening and was even smaller than it is now. It’s still the smallest Magic Kingdom style park and at 8-9 million visitors a year and still operates at a loss.
Rumours are that the plans for Disneyland Australia got morphed into the Hong Kong project, so it would have realistically only been about the same size as Hong Kong Disneyland on opening, which is dissapointingly small. - Luke
when are They go to have a Universal Studios Hollywood Australia?
i really hope that if they do decide to build a disney park here, that it is on the gold coast. i could, feasibly, work there, as i live about a two and a half hour drive away and am currently considering moving into the city which is about an hour's drive with good traffic.
the disappointment in your voice at 5:32, i feel you...
Awesome video!
This is sad when I was little I love Disneyland but I couldn't go because I have a phobia of planes so I don't think I'll be seeing Disneyland any time soon
Toyko Disneyland apart from World Bazaar replacing Main Street and Frontierland called Westernland isn’t that different from the Disneyland/Magic Kingdom parks
And it was a success from the beginning and still is.
Tokyo DL is different. Its backers want it to be as AMERICAN as it can be during the US -worship 1980's in Japan. It should be seen as an exception, not an example. Statistically, Disneyland (the Anaheim version) is not exportable: Paris and Hong Kong are examples of its non-success...
I knew it would be good the minute Eisner was brought up
Bro I know this sounds stupid but they should build one in Canada they would have to close it part of the year but it could be a smaller park, I just know it would be popular as hell
Do you think Disneyland’s next park would be in Australia? I feel like Australia maybe in a few decades could have Disney Harbor and Disneyland.
Probably not. Unfortunately these days it appears that the Asian market is far more lucrative. - Dom
Im Waiting for Disneyland Uranus
wait
The world embraced disney culture but will they embrace aussie culture?
Oz has the population of Los Angeles, its not big enough to support a Disney theme park. It doesn't have the ratio of profit needed.
Didnt know that his was actually a thing! just a shame that Eisner did make some bad moves in his last years..
On one hand it would certainly be cool, but I don't think Disneyland in Australia is feasible just yet. It seems a no brainer they expanded into China, first. Plus I dunno, to me there's something more magical about travelling abroad and visiting a Disneyland, though I realise it's not feasible for all. I've only been to the original in California, but it was kind of a fulfilment of a childhood dream lol.
If only Disney ACTUALLY had unlimited money...
Disneyland Down Under. Huzzah!!
Hong Kong Disneyland is not Australia’s Disneyland. It’s targeted towards the Chinese IN EVERY WAY!
Where is Disney Oz.
Euro Disneyland should of be on the Mediterranean coast instead of Paris.
Annnnnd Shanghai is a bad idea, should of spend the money in HongKong. HongKonger are a lot more professtional than mainlander, and they are pretty much all trilingual so people from english-speaking cuntries can enjoy HK Disney a lot more "at home".
It's literally not been called Euro Disney since 2002. Paris is the perfect location because 300 million people were only a 2 hour flight away
HK Disneyland is too much of a hassle to improve upon and being a copy-paste version of Anaheim with all the Americana cultural baggage doesn't help it. Shanghai DL is at best "China's Disney"land than a "Disneyland in China", a primer of the Disney brand to a country ignorant of it...
Because everything would fall to the sky!
Well as a Hong Kong citizen I appreciate their final decision, sorry Aussie. I did visit HK Disneyland once every month in honour of your lost. That is, until now I'm staying in Australia, wishing you have one here, wondering why you don't and came to RUclips for answers.
disgusting
If Disney comes back they should built at the Gold Coast not Sydney.
Like if you feel like Michael Eisner ruined your childhood
Without Michael Eisner, I wouldn’t have a Disney park I could visit (Disneyland Paris)
We definitely need a Disneyland here in Australia...
All the terrible decisions Disney ever made can be traced back to Eisner. It makes me so mad!
Iger is SO much worse
Australia’s population is 27 million now
Goddamit Michael!
Australia has a population of 24 ( very close to 25) million people living in it and you said 18 million thats from 1995!! I have no idea what your thinking.
It does seem pretty crazy but it’s definitely true! Source: www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/2f762f95845417aeca25706c00834efa/e2f62e625b7855bfca2570ec0073cdf6!OpenDocument
Hoping they would at least bring a Disney cruise ship down
Disneyland without Disney is just, land
What’s with the stupid music over the top, it’s so annoying on something that could have been an amazing subject
Please Let Australian Sydney's Disneyland Rise Again.
Tbh I don’t want Disney to come, it would literally kill every other theme park in Australia, which there already is ver few of
Why isn't there a Disneyland in Korea or Vietnam? Will there ever be?
Disney is always on the lookout for new locations but I feel their focus will be on the China region for the foreseeable future as far as Internation expansions are concerned! - Luke
Disneyland Korea is difficult due to the number of regional parks in the country like Lotte World and Everland; Vietnam will never have one - HK and Shanghai are too close to set one up, saturates the market...
Been to Disney Land Paris. I prefer Warner Bro's Movie World tbh
Why even have the silly background music? And if background music, does it have to be THIS loud??
Lol
Australia got Warner Bros
Which Disney Park in the world Australians visit the most you think?
Whilst I'm not 100% sure on numbers of visitors to each park, most advertising we see here in Australia is for the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim and is the resort most of my friends and family have visited. Whilst Hong Kong and Tokyo are closer, they aren't advertised to us quite as heavily, with Tokyo not really being advertised at all. - Luke
ReviewTyme Thank you for the reply.
It’s pretty much the same in Canada as well.
Many people don’t even know there is a Disney park in Tokyo, even they know other parks in France and Hong Kong.
I imagine Tokyo Disney resort is the park Australian works the most!
It will never happen.
Yes, China was a much better idea/investment.
Australia?
Australia cannot support a Disney park.
This is a long comment but I think it can if it was small and manageable, and not like Paris. Roughly 4 million people live within a 2 hours drive away from where the original resort was supposed to be, and that population is expected to almost double in 10-15 years. Sydney, with a population of 5 million is an hours flight way. The region receives over 7 million overnight tourists both from interstate and and internationally. The biggest theme park in the region receives roughly 2.5 million visitors, with hotel and annual pass options a Disney park could easily double that with 6 million, numbers that Hong Kong Disneyland is receiving currently. Also Australians make more money than any other groups who live near a Disney Resort, minimum wage alone is double that of any country with a Disney park, minus France. That means Australians have more cash to spend, and will be absolutely willing to spend it, heck we're already paying $100 to enter a theme park nowhere near the quality of Disney. Also, wherever a Disneyland opens, people will always be willing to travel to it. Tourism will also skyrocket is a Disney resort were to open.
JKalama Hong Kong Disneyland receives such a small amount of annual visitors because the park itself is small and highly regarded as the worst Disneyland park, not because the surrounding area population and tourists can’t support it. Disney has already tried the small park route and it failed, they aren’t going to do it again. Australia simply doesn’t have the tourism or population to support a Disney park, which is why those plans have never been looked into again.
GAYSMR Hong Kong failed because it had no rides, and the rides they did have were mediocre with no uniqueness or imagination. If you were to build a Hong Kong scale park with a much more diverse and unique array of attractions along with the 20 million Australians who’re only a 2 hour flight or less from the discussed location, I believe it’d do well. But you’re probably right there is indeed a high likelihood that won’t be financially viable, although Florida’s population was only 6 million and Orlando was non existent when Disney World opened.
JKalama Australia doesn’t have a good history with regional theme parks, two of them have closed. Disney isn’t looking at markets that are similar to Orlando or Florida almost 50 years ago. No Disney park is going to open in a country barely bigger than the state of Florida with 1/10th of the tourism numbers no matter how many unique attractions they could come up with.
Economically, unless Australia's economy can manage to pull $ 1 billion per year for the park, it is impossible to have one. Remember that a Disney park is worth $6 billion in capital the last two DL parks are all majority funded by the national government ( ie. Beijing in PRC). Having a Disney park is a POLITICAL move...
WHAT ABOUT CANADA
Too close to US.
Too cold and too close to the US parks...
Just cross the border. We have to fly for hours to get to a Disney land we do not have one in our continent. So stop complaining!
It’s just been cancelled :(((