Let's be honest...she wasn't an attractive woman from a youthful age...what was important about her was her love for her husband, children, and country
I was led to believe Queen Victoria was not embalmed. I thought she made her wishes clear. It was even recorded that pallbearers, despite her being laid to rest inside a lead-lined coffin, were aware she was not embalmed. I won’t make that more graphic as I’m sure you can understand that. So I’m amazed to hear of an embalming process taking place after her death. I understand that she did not want her death mask to be made which went ahead despite this. But the embalming wasn’t forced in the same way. Maybe someone could clarify?
Alot of meanish comments on this video! I like your titles, even if they are "click bait," dont let them get you down! I also like hearing about Queen Victoria, I've read a bit about her troubled childhood, and how she encouraged the decoration and celebration of certain holidays. I dont think her mask was "grotesque" per se but probably not how she would want to be remembered.
She was just an old lady. Of course she was cognisant of her place in history. As having been a rather pretty young woman, it was natural that she would not have wanted to be immortalised as some bloated old lady. That Kaiser, her grandson, had an obsession with her: seat of the power HE wished for himself. Had she known that Wilhelm was about to engender a war just over a decade later which would shatter the Europe she and her husband had hoped to bring about, she would never have uttered a word to him, or even looked at him. We all know, from her writings and water-colours, that she was a rather sensitive nice person. Old-fashioned. Stuck in her ways. A victim of her birth and circumstances. She was at the back and call of her politicians - principally Gladstone and Disraeli - but liked to imagine she as Queen could wield influence. She could not, and never did.
The Kaiser had wished to have a death mask of his grandmother created, but her daughters refused, so only a photograph and a drawing of Victoria on her deathbed were permitted. If one compares the photograph, the bone structure of the face and the shape of the mouth clearly show that the above death mask is not that of Victoria.
Embalming wouldn’t take place in a bedroom. It involves a lot of fluids and is normally done in a room that can be sluiced out afterwards. The family would not be there for any of that. Possibly a close retainer might have been there as a witness, since the orderly succession of power would be important, and there would be concern that the body not be tampered with or disrespected in any way. Also, as we know from the recent death of Queen Elizabeth II, the heir to the throne immediately becomes the monarch, whether they’re aware of the death at that moment or not. If they decide they don’t want the throne, they must formally abdicate. There’s no process of “accepting the crown” that needs to take place at the moment of death. I don’t think the death mask is “horrific.” I do think it’s unfortunate that her wishes were not respected.
The next king/queen are not asked if they accept the crown - it's completely automatic. We are never without a monarch in the UK. For example King Charles knew the Queen had died as he received a message on his phone and was addressed as "Your majesty" - before being told.
Her death mask was NOT grotesque! It showed an elderly woman and the mask is smooth and even though she had a double chin and a not attractive woman it also does record the passing of a Queen and so is of interest. This video is grotesque because of you making it so.
I think that her and Albert’s memorial tomb is the most beautiful I’ve ever seen. It’s absolutely lovely. Her making hers when he died, so sweet. However, I’m not really sure how Kaiser Wilhelm could have demanded this, and overrode King Edward VII, the KING of England, and her son. AT ALL. I do know he was present when she died, but that’s not her. Even Albert didn’t have one. Edit. I did read in reputable “ History Extra”, by BBC History Magazine, that this happened. But I still cannot believe that the Kaiser, that Edward pretty much hated, would let this happen. I also have read many books about Victoria, and haven’t seen this took place.. So..🤷♀️. It could be a rumor taken for true, but I just can’t see how the ruler of Germany could make that decision without anybody knowing. And honestly, even with the weight, whatever, the nose doesn’t look like hers at all.
Edward VII was never a mere 'King of England'. He was King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and the British Dominions Beyond the Seas, Emperor of India, Defender of the Faith. Queen Victoria's effigy above her tomb was made at the same time as that of Albert.
In every portrait taken if her, she always looked so sad. Why is that? Were they not allowed to smile? I guess & hope she's at peace. Like her, I wouldn't want a death mask, or my picture taken in death. It's morbid. Remember me as I was in life. The rest is too much.🤨🥴🤨😒
There are very few Victorian era photographs wherein the subject is smiling. Exposure time took nearly a half hour. Also, death portraits were fairly common in that era.
Queen Victoria died on the 22nd of January on the 22nd anniversary of Isandlwana and Rorke’s Drift?? I did not know that until now. Interesting coincidence.
But seems like any final wishes expressed is no guarantee. Hopefully the next monarch will honor them. That seems to be the reality of it. If accounts of King George 5 are true (being given a hot shot) they wises are simply disregarded.
I know you had to show the death mask for views, and it’s probably posted in a million other places, but I’d have a lot more respect for you if you hadn’t. Disappointing how negativity feeds. Bah
It was difficult for me to understand the woman narrator. Eventually, I was able to discern what she was saying and I found it very interesting. I'm sorry but people who speak as if they have marbles in their mouths should not be allowed to do this type of presentation.
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She was a Queen and nobody should have changed her last wishes.
Let's be honest...she wasn't an attractive woman from a youthful age...what was important about her was her love for her husband, children, and country
Her death mask reminded me of Benjamin Franklin.
Quite understandable not to want a caste of one's face as an elderly woman. I wouldn't either.
I was led to believe Queen Victoria was not embalmed. I thought she made her wishes clear. It was even recorded that pallbearers, despite her being laid to rest inside a lead-lined coffin, were aware she was not embalmed. I won’t make that more graphic as I’m sure you can understand that. So I’m amazed to hear of an embalming process taking place after her death. I understand that she did not want her death mask to be made which went ahead despite this. But the embalming wasn’t forced in the same way. Maybe someone could clarify?
Alot of meanish comments on this video! I like your titles, even if they are "click bait," dont let them get you down! I also like hearing about Queen Victoria, I've read a bit about her troubled childhood, and how she encouraged the decoration and celebration of certain holidays. I dont think her mask was "grotesque" per se but probably not how she would want to be remembered.
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She was just an old lady. Of course she was cognisant of her place in history. As having been a rather pretty young woman, it was natural that she would not have wanted to be immortalised as some bloated old lady. That Kaiser, her grandson, had an obsession with her: seat of the power HE wished for himself. Had she known that Wilhelm was about to engender a war just over a decade later which would shatter the Europe she and her husband had hoped to bring about, she would never have uttered a word to him, or even looked at him. We all know, from her writings and water-colours, that she was a rather sensitive nice person. Old-fashioned. Stuck in her ways. A victim of her birth and circumstances. She was at the back and call of her politicians - principally Gladstone and Disraeli - but liked to imagine she as Queen could wield influence. She could not, and never did.
She was never pretty
@@michelles2299 When younger she was...pics of her and Prince Albert at her wedding show that...
They looked better on canvas than in photographs.
It was her idea to marry her children off into all the royal houses of Europe. She knew what she was doing.
@@margaretflounders8510 portraits flattered her. There were no photographs of her when she was young. They only emerged in 1850s.
To implicate the Kaiser at being at fault for ww1 displays a lack of understanding in regards to historical context
I don't blame her. I'm getting old, and I even hate it when people take photos of me.
The future you will be older, and would have wished to have had more photos of when you were that age ❤
The weight of the plaster on her face, while she's lying down, would distort her features. The cast should never have been made.
It was a tradition
@@michelles2299so was a royal bride vowing to obey until Diana came along. Your argument is invalid.
It was a man
I enjoyed the video 👍🏼
Seriously, was it necessary to describe her death mask as grotesque? Give the woman some respect for God's sake.
The Kaiser had wished to have a death mask of his grandmother created, but her daughters refused, so only a photograph and a drawing of Victoria on her deathbed were permitted. If one compares the photograph, the bone structure of the face and the shape of the mouth clearly show that the above death mask is not that of Victoria.
Embalming wouldn’t take place in a bedroom. It involves a lot of fluids and is normally done in a room that can be sluiced out afterwards. The family would not be there for any of that. Possibly a close retainer might have been there as a witness, since the orderly succession of power would be important, and there would be concern that the body not be tampered with or disrespected in any way.
Also, as we know from the recent death of Queen Elizabeth II, the heir to the throne immediately becomes the monarch, whether they’re aware of the death at that moment or not. If they decide they don’t want the throne, they must formally abdicate. There’s no process of “accepting the crown” that needs to take place at the moment of death.
I don’t think the death mask is “horrific.” I do think it’s unfortunate that her wishes were not respected.
Embalming did take place in the bedroom. As to whether Victoria was embalmed that is a different matter.
She was the granddaughter of king George III.
Who died in 1820. The woman had a remarkable lineage.
Well, she was OLD. And DEAD. Who expects the poor woman to look like a supermodel?
POOR?!
@@Adam-ix2sn Hahaha! Well, she's dead.
She was very well fed compared to lots of her citizens, meant subjects.
@@Adam-ix2sn poor as in bad health.
Does anyone know what she died from!?
Old age. She lived an amazingly long time for back then. But no, not cancer, nothing like that.
Among other things she had had a stroke.
That looks nothing like Victoria imo.
The next king/queen are not asked if they accept the crown - it's completely automatic. We are never without a monarch in the UK. For example King Charles knew the Queen had died as he received a message on his phone and was addressed as "Your majesty" - before being told.
Indeed, as the old cry reportedly went, "The Queen is dead; long live the King.!"
Charles was with his mother when she died!
Her death mask was NOT grotesque! It showed an elderly woman and the mask is smooth and even though she had a double chin and a not attractive woman it also does record the passing of a Queen and so is of interest. This video is grotesque because of you making it so.
I’m sad her wishes were not honored. That is heartless and disrespectful.
Well, she was definitely not a beauty, even when young!
I really couldn't tell.
So did she want a deathmask done of herself, or not?
She didn't want one.
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Can anyone please identify the young woman seen alone with The Queen in several photographs? Thank you!
Victoria Eugenie ('Ena') of Battenberg, future Queen Consorte of Spain.
@@stephengraham5099Many thanks! 😀
I think that her and Albert’s memorial tomb is the most beautiful I’ve ever seen. It’s absolutely lovely. Her making hers when he died, so sweet. However, I’m not really sure how Kaiser Wilhelm could have demanded this, and overrode King Edward VII, the KING of England, and her son. AT ALL. I do know he was present when she died, but that’s not her. Even Albert didn’t have one. Edit. I did read in reputable “ History Extra”, by BBC History Magazine, that this happened. But I still cannot believe that the Kaiser, that Edward pretty much hated, would let this happen. I also have read many books about Victoria, and haven’t seen this took place.. So..🤷♀️. It could be a rumor taken for true, but I just can’t see how the ruler of Germany could make that decision without anybody knowing. And honestly, even with the weight, whatever, the nose doesn’t look like hers at all.
Edward VII was never a mere 'King of England'. He was King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and the British Dominions Beyond the Seas, Emperor of India, Defender of the Faith. Queen Victoria's effigy above her tomb was made at the same time as that of Albert.
In every portrait taken if her, she always looked so sad. Why is that? Were they not allowed to smile?
I guess & hope she's at peace. Like her, I wouldn't want a death mask, or my picture taken in death. It's morbid. Remember me as I was in life. The rest is too much.🤨🥴🤨😒
She did not take her husband’s death well. She spent the rest of her life in mourning - probably very depressed.
The love of her life, Albert, died
There are very few Victorian era photographs wherein the subject is smiling. Exposure time took nearly a half hour. Also, death portraits were fairly common in that era.
If a person moved at all in a photo the image blurred.
Look at the nose and the mouth. I don't think that was made off her face.
What is the white veil she always wore?
Her window’s veil. She wore that from the time he died until she did.
Your clickbait titles always make me laugh.
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Shut Up Meg 🤫
I was thinking it, but elected not to say it because who tf cares?
@@Guitcad1 I care.
@@SwanRonsonDonnyJepp No.
Queen Victoria died on the 22nd of January on the 22nd anniversary of Isandlwana and Rorke’s Drift?? I did not know that until now. Interesting coincidence.
Her death mask looks like Ben Franklin.
But seems like any final wishes expressed is no guarantee. Hopefully the next monarch will honor them. That seems to be the reality of it. If accounts of King George 5 are true (being given a hot shot) they wises are simply disregarded.
I know you had to show the death mask for views, and it’s probably posted in a million other places, but I’d have a lot more respect for you if you hadn’t. Disappointing how negativity feeds. Bah
Oh, the death mask is not grotesque, and I’m not sure that’s Victoria at all. WTF. Seems like I’ve seen it before, and it was the mask of a male.
I can see her facial features now in the current RF
One of Andy daughters same eyes nose shape of face,the other daughter looks like Queen Elizabeth's younger mother.
They have receeding chins, like her, and those bulky eyes.
No death mask. Nor was it grotesque. Click bated to get you to watch. Died of old age.
She had a stroke.
Never trust a Jerry!
which is why sailors still pull the carriage....as with ElizabethII
The horses failed hence sailors pulling the carriage.
Her face wasnt that fat when she died,she was really guant looking.
Oh! And you were there taking pictures, I presume. Do enlighten us on what you saw. 🙄
She was morbidly obese.
The Famine Queen.
The potato crop failed. Queen Victoria actually gave a lot of money to the people of Ireland. Get your facts right.
She really wasn't pretty.
Her eldest daughter had SPINAL cancer and NOT Breast cancer. DO YOUR RESEARCH!
Not my favorite, spoiled, demanding and odd.
Agreed! Face it, she was at best plain and not a beauty.
It was difficult for me to understand the woman narrator. Eventually, I was able to discern what she was saying and I found it very interesting. I'm sorry but people who speak as if they have marbles in their mouths should not be allowed to do this type of presentation.
Her diction is perfectly clear. Maybe you should clean out your ears?
That's interesting. I'm German and had no problems understanding her at all. As for me she has a very clear diction.
@@JulianaBlewett Perfectly clear? Maybe you should participate in my enunciation classes.
The mask looks nothing like her.
Mask isn't horrific at all.
Yes it was, because she didn't WANT it.