I actually love the irony of how the Kensington Method/System was supposed to break Victoria when it, in fact, made her stronger. The only thing that ever really broke Victoria was losing her beloved Albert.
I mean.... I deffo wouldn't say it made her stronger - In fact it made her notoriously damaged and flawed. I'm torn between empathy for what we would consequentially today identify as a personality disorder and trauma, vs. disapproval that she didn't want better for her own children....who she treat with such disdain and retaliation. Even today, people have children without thoroughly contemplating whether they're fit enough. I can personally attest.
@Alex-zs7gw Both can be true. Conroy’s influence was meant to create a weak timid personality who always deferred to her mother, who deferred to Conroy. Instead, Victoria developed an independent personality who could be persuaded against her own interests and what she believed to be right.
I’m glad we’re finally getting to learn about Victoria’s older half siblings. It’s known Victoria was close to her sister. She was even a bridesmaid in Feodora’s wedding.
Am I the only one that finds Victoria's sister really interesting? At twelve she was dragged away from her home and seperated from her brother. Her stepdad was kind to her, but he died soon after. She became a victim to the Kensington system that revolved her golden-child sister. Atleast it had a happy ending with her marrying a nice man.
Conroy really shot himself in the head with the Kensington system. He was the only male figure in Victoria's life, he could have easily slid into the father role for Victoria without much trouble as she wasn't even 1 year old to remember her father. And then there's Feodora. She was much older, left when Victoria was still a child, and she had so much influence on her decades later, Victoria's children wrote to her so she can basically tell Victoria "I think this is dumb, you shouldn't be like this" and Victoria *listened*.
I also noted how Victoria hated her mother, and there was no excuse. Loving or not, her mother was a weakling in both inteligence and will that failed to protect her daughter and enabled Conroy's child abuse.
How dare Victoria and Conroy make a little girl question her intelligence. A child should be able to trust their parent. They shouldn't be belittled and bullied.
Yeah! It is the natural order of things for children to make the lives of their parents miserable, but it is a despicable thing for a parent to make the life of their child miserable.
@@cameronmoore2713 Children are difficult to raise, yes, but people know that going into it. If children are a misery maybe don't have them, or use the resources out there to figure out how to not let parenting be a misery. Again, I'm not saying it's easy or fun process. No child should be made to feel they are hated in the one structure society provides to support them, family is supposed to be a support not a drain.
@@cameronmoore2713 Also if you remember what it feels like to be a child treated this way, why wouldn't you go out of your way to try and make sure that as a parent you don't treat them that way? Why resent the children You chose to have and then get mad they're resentful of you? It's not right, and I am sorry people in your life (children or not) made you feel that way (now and maybe then).
That was pretty much his only mission in life by the time he gave his famous speech, and he died knowing he had succeeded in living past Victoria's 18th birthday. I wonder what he thought on the day of Victoria's 18th birthday, although I'd guess that he would have felt joy knowing that his niece would be able to sit the throne without a regency once he was gone
6:29 Carl actually stopped being a sovereign prince in 1806, when the principality was abolished. He was however, still the owner of many lands throughout Germany, topped by the beautiful Amorbach Abbey which the Leiningens still own today 10:24 Ernest Augustus may have actually been projecting. His own son became blind in one eye due to an illness in 1828 and lost sight in his other eye due to an accident in 1833. By starting rumours about the precarity of Victoria’s health, he may have been trying to distract from the potential incapacity of his own son (who actually turned out fine, marrying and having three children) 10:15 I think it’s supposed to be second husband here. Frederica was actually married thrice, and had children by all of her marriages. However, there nothing suspicious about the death of her first husband, Prince Louis Charles of Prussia in 1796, because he died of diphtheria. It’s her second husband Prince Frederick William of Solms-Braunfels that attracted notoriety, because Frederica was in the process of divorcing him so she could marry Ernest Augustus when he suddenly died in April 1814, removing the need and necessitating the Prince Regent’s begrudging consent to the match as he had no ground to oppose it.
@@heindlwest It would’ve been nigh on impossible to get away with murdering your niece. It doesn’t help that we don’t actually know how much validity there was to the accusations against Ernest as he had many political enemies who had every reason to tarnish his reputation, as he was very active in the House of Lords. So I suppose we’ll never know
@@ravenzyblack Funny enough, those names have nothing to do with previous Ernest Augustus’s in the royal family. August gets his name from Prince Albert (Victoria’s husband), who’s second given name was August, and Ernest gets his name from George V, who’s third given name was Ernest.
Thank you for this wonderful episode. I feel great compassion for poor Victoria who had to grow up under the cruel Kensington System and Conroy's bullying. However, what a magnificent and courageous queen she turned out to be. Human like us all who always tried and endeavoured 'to be good'.
Thank God for young Victoria's strong, intelligent, compassionate & very loyal governess! Much admiration for her that she stood firm and didn't allow Conroy to bully her out of her protective position of the future Queen.
An interesting fact is that the last surviving relative of Queen Victoria's generation was Arthur von Eppinghoven, son born out of wedlock by her loved uncle Leopold of Belgium and Arcadie Claret: He was born in 1852 and died in 1940 (at 88 years old) during the nazist occupation of Belgium, after a life of strong links with the Belgian royal family.
I know fedora from the Victoria series, and I also knew her mother married and has two children before her father, thanks for the story about her older siblings.
Not Jeff here. I always wondered what the reign of Queen Charlotte would have been like. By all accounts she was intelligent, generous, and open hearted. Also she was a bit hoydenish when young and not afraid to be unconventional. She and Leopold were deeply in love. Perhaps her reign would have been an era of social changes without the excesses of the Regency and the social rigidity of the later Victorian.
It would've been amazing to see a Carolinian era with her with the crown and her son as heir, but we have Charles now, so I guess there's our Carolinian era
She was NOT "Open hearted" LoL! Maybe as a child but not as an adult and she was a particularly awful, controlling and cold Mother. She treated her children horribly. She rarely saw them when they were children.
Charlotte died giving birth to her first child, who was stillborn. How could she had been awful mother, when she never had a living child? Are you by any change mixing Charlotte and Victoria here?
I visited Kensington Palace in December 2019 and thoroughly enjoyed the tour as you did. Loved seeing your footage of you walking thru the rooms. One of my favorite moments was seeing her diamond and emerald tiara on display that Albert gifted to her, seeing it in person was priceless. This video was fantastic, as I knew about the Kensington System but didn’t know much about her older siblings. Great job!!!
I think some of the paintings for little Victoria shown near were actually portraits of her daughters Vicky and Alice. In one of the portraits, the little girl holds a pocket watch-like object with a picture of what looks like Albert.
The monarchy in the early 1800s before Victoria was pretty ridiculous. This added to Victoria's popularity, because she wasn't as bad as the ones that came before her. Most biographies of Victoria never mention these half siblings, making her out to be a lonely child locked up in a palace.
Thanks I did not know that she had anyone else. It is good to know at least for part of her youth she had others around even if older than her. Enjoy the Holidays.🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊
I like reading about Victoria's relationships with her half-siblings. My grandpa also had 2 older half-siblings (who were 18 & 17 years his senior) from their mother's first marriage; however, my grandpa's relationship to his half-siblings were extremely distant for reasons I don't know. He did grow up knowing of their existence, but the relationships fluctuated year-by-year. My mom didn't know of them until she was already an adult. There were small reconciliations made, but there was still no strong relationship. My great-aunt was a guest at my parents wedding and my baptism, but she died shortly after; and my great-uncle died before I was born. My grandpa doesn't even have any pictures of them (that I know of), and all but 1 of his nephews have passed away; he also has no interest in reconnecting with that branch, and neither does my mom, even though I've matched with 2 of my half-2nd cousins on Ancestry. It's sad that my family was so disconnected, but there's really nothing that can be done now.
Yes, it happens so much, that many people do not know much about their heritage. It is fascinating to learn about family trees. I would love to step back in time to meet so many, and hear their life stories.
I'm sorry, I just have to say that court painters really were the Snapchat filters of their day 😂 Knowing what Victoria and Albert actually looked like vs. How they were portrayed in paintings makes me laugh every time 😂😂
To be honest, Albert’s paintings were accurate. He was very handsome, great body and tall if you see photographs of him as a young man. There’s around two or three floating around the internet. People often commented about his good looks in letters as well. The only thing was he aged very quickly due to being sickly, so he lost his looks at an early age (around mid 30s). People commented on that too. How he looked much older than his age, once he started approaching his 40s. That was probably because he was basically slowly dying at that point. I agree that Victoria wasn’t much of a looker though and her paintings were flattering.
Because photographs of a 50-year-old woman who had borne nine children without competent medical care are so very likely to represent exactly what she looked like at nineteen. 🙄
@mehere8299 There are actually numerous photographs of her from even when she was young. The first ever photograph of Victoria was taken when she was 23. Her paintings portray her to look like a cherubic, fairytale princess's but in reality.... she clearly wasn't.
Queen Victoria def had RBF lol so I don’t blame the court painters for giving her a softer look, they got her bone structure and chubby cheeks right usually though
Victoria had to fight for some semblance of self determination all her young life and she did not waste her time on fripperies. By the time she ascended the throne she was a seasonned warrior with a plan.
I'm a flight attendant and they changed our layover hotel to one that's at the end of the park from Kensington! So I'm probably going to pick up a LHR to visit !
I would like to know more of the funerals of the Monarchs that weren't well loved. Like the Georges, William IV his brothers and the minor royals, like Victoria and Albert's extended family. Fascinating to hear of their lives, but also fascinating to hear of their send off's.
Amazing video as always! You're an inspiration and a master story teller! I swear that i could hear you talk about paint drying and still be entertained! Keep going! You're the Best!😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Unfortunately, it was the normal perspective at the time that the right way to parent children was to install genuine fear into them. They believed that was what made children good, respectable God-fearing Christians. Never give then room or an opportunity to make a single mistake that may not only ruin their lives but send them to hell for all eternity. That's what, and still, what some people, believe about raising children. Unfortunately, some people and current trends have taking it too far the other way. Giving children no rules, no standards, no boundaries, no morals, no protection. I've been working with children for most of my life and finally about to become a parent myself. I don't believe in being drill sergeant strict with no exceptions, but I don't believe in being loosey goosey either. I have to protect my children from unnecessary things, but I can't shelter my child either. I can teach my child right and wrong and about Jesus, but I can't expect my child to so-called perfect. I do want my child to develop his or her own mind and own person, while hopefully knowing right and wrong, which isn't always black and right, even from person to person. I want my child to behave well and not give teachers and others too much grief (good luck on that one), but I also don't want my child to be robot oriented and be easily mowed over by others. There's a perfect balance to everything. We're going to make mistakes as parents, but we can learn from those mistakes and learn how to work together as a family, just like our families do. Love, guidance, some discipline, support, and respect are the basics.
I generally really like ITV's show Victoria, but on the third season they decided to present Feodora as a cartoon villain that resented her sister and made everything in her power to ruin her marriage and relationships with her children. It was pretty painful to watch because it didn't serve any real purpose, and I didn't understand why show yet another tumoltuous relationship of Victoria with a family member, since this one was so good and healthy in real life.
I’ve never really liked queen Vicky but she did have an interesting long life and her diaries are interesting. Often there is much information about the childhoods of monarchs especially those you were not the original heir.
Considering Earnst Augustus likely r4ped his sister Sophia (my name!) they were right to protect her from him, and the harsh Kensington method likely did keep little Victoria safe, but it was terrible nonetheless.
@@valr1260 The Haemophilia originated from Victoria's maternal line. She could have married anyone else and her offspring would still have inherited Haemophilia or become carriers. My parents are not related and I still inherited Porphyria. My sister married a man from another country, a different gene pool and her children have two inherited disorders from both parents.
Love English/British history and your videos on it are my favorites! Victoria loved her sister dearly and one of her youngest daughters (beatrice) names was feodore in her honor.🇯🇪🇯🇪🇯🇪🇯🇪🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤❤❤
Queens of the World requests Mihrimah Sultana Charlotte of Wales (not the current one) Amonute Maire Laveau, Voodoo queen of New Orleans (spooky video for Halloween maybe?)
If anything, Conroy got off easy. Queen Victoria could have easily have sentenced him to death for all the pain and suffering she went through at the hands of him and her mother. And it's not just the abuse she endured, it was the money laundering he did towards the Royal family.
And their descendant (granddaughter, Frederika) became mother of King Constantine [of Greece], his sister Queen Sophia of Spain, and princess Irene (unm.).
Yes. According to The Royal Diaries Victoria May Blossom of Brittania England, 1829, her mother really struggled with her English, if she learned it at all. Sir John Conroy, Victoria's father's comptroller, would roar at Victoria's mum for speaking German and not English.
Thank you for providing information about the much overlooked siblings of Queen Victoria. I know how great separations in age and distance can be obstacles to closeness. If anyone cares to read on, I will share my own family situation. I am not a queen 😅 but I have half siblings. I am the youngest of five. My father's first wife died tragically of a brain hemorrhage at only 36, leaving him three teenagers to raise. Within two years he married my mother. My oldest sister was already 20 years old when I was born, followed by my brother who was 17, and another sister who was 15. My only full sister is 3 years older than me. She and I grew up very close and remain close to this day. Understandably, I was not able to be as close to my half sisters and brother, as they were so much older, and then they all moved out of the house, went to college and got married. I get why Victoria felt like an only child. Her much older half brother and sister didn't even live in the same country. It wasn't that they didn't love each other. They just didn't have enough opportunity to know one another. In her case, being heir to the throne and then queen of Great Britain was also a special barrier. It is good to know Feodora and Karl had prosperous lives in their own right, and that they all stayed in touch through correspondence and visits through the years. When you all reach middle age, those differences in years hardly matter. In my family's case, there are only three of us left. My parents are both long gone. My eldest sister and one brother also passed away. I am very, very grateful to still have my two, dear sisters. I am especially glad to have grown much closer to the sister who is 15 years older than me. I think she finally understands that I am no longer 8 years old. And she doesn't have to babysit me anymore. 😊
I feel like I have just been hit by the Mandela Effect. I have NEVER heard of Victoria's brother and sister in any movie, tv series or documentary. Wtf?
@@livingincaptivityIII not gonna lie it was very unfair. And inaccurate. Feodora and Victoria were known to be close so to have her estranged and jealous of her sister was absurd.
Hello Lindsay, i learned something new today about Queen Victoria’s Half sister. What are your main sources for each vidéo? Merry chrismas and enjoy the last day’s of the year.🎉
I wonder if there’s info on the non royal children the brothers had. A few were mentioned but there had to be a few that were well known enough to end up as a general or something
I seriously want the producers and writers of The Crown to make a prequel about Queen Victoria and King Edward VII. I know there's a series called Victoria, but it didn't really speak to me. It was really bland, and Jenna Colman lacked charisma. Hope that they make it someday.
I agree, and I feel like Jenna Colman was a terrible choice to portray Victoria, considering she looks absolutely nothing like her. Victoria had pretty distinct facial features, and it can't have been that hard to find a good actress who at least somewhat resembles her.
@@kendracrispin5327 That one focuses more on Edward rather then Victoria, Victoria just seemed overly grouchy in that series when in reality she wasn't *that* miserable.
Lindsay, I love mostly all of your video so much ❤ could you make a video about royal assassination. Most royal around the world either europe or asia ahve experience assassination
I actually love the irony of how the Kensington Method/System was supposed to break Victoria when it, in fact, made her stronger. The only thing that ever really broke Victoria was losing her beloved Albert.
Seems so logical that they would’ve had much more influence had they been kind and insured they she would want them to stay around.
I mean.... I deffo wouldn't say it made her stronger - In fact it made her notoriously damaged and flawed.
I'm torn between empathy for what we would consequentially today identify as a personality disorder and trauma, vs. disapproval that she didn't want better for her own children....who she treat with such disdain and retaliation.
Even today, people have children without thoroughly contemplating whether they're fit enough. I can personally attest.
So true
@Alex-zs7gw
Both can be true.
Conroy’s influence was meant to create a weak timid personality who always deferred to her mother, who deferred to Conroy. Instead, Victoria developed an independent personality who could be persuaded against her own interests and what she believed to be right.
Never knew Edward was a good stepfather to Victoria's other children. That's sweet. 🥺
Merry Christmas, Lindsay 😊
I never knew Victoria had siblings. Thank you for this history lesson.
@@lilbatz I knew she had a sister but forgot abiut the brother
If only he lived longer 🥺🥺 Because istg if he found out what his wife and conroy were doing to his daughter, he would defend her.
@lilbatz
Facts. I figured I'd she had a brother, he would've been King
I’m glad we’re finally getting to learn about Victoria’s older half siblings. It’s known Victoria was close to her sister. She was even a bridesmaid in Feodora’s wedding.
Am I the only one that finds Victoria's sister really interesting? At twelve she was dragged away from her home and seperated from her brother. Her stepdad was kind to her, but he died soon after. She became a victim to the Kensington system that revolved her golden-child sister.
Atleast it had a happy ending with her marrying a nice man.
True
Feodora accompanied her mother and stepfather to England. Her brother Karl stayed in Germany to continue his education.
i love that you're highlighting siblings of important monarchs!! could we get a video on henrietta of england??
Oh yeah, she was a wild one, love her!
@@LindsayHolidayyes can't wait
Conroy really shot himself in the head with the Kensington system. He was the only male figure in Victoria's life, he could have easily slid into the father role for Victoria without much trouble as she wasn't even 1 year old to remember her father.
And then there's Feodora. She was much older, left when Victoria was still a child, and she had so much influence on her decades later, Victoria's children wrote to her so she can basically tell Victoria "I think this is dumb, you shouldn't be like this" and Victoria *listened*.
I also noted how Victoria hated her mother, and there was no excuse. Loving or not, her mother was a weakling in both inteligence and will that failed to protect her daughter and enabled Conroy's child abuse.
How dare Victoria and Conroy make a little girl question her intelligence. A child should be able to trust their parent. They shouldn't be belittled and bullied.
Victoria was just as bad or worse to her own children
I mean I bully my children but not like that. I also encourage their intelligence and will to learn
Yeah! It is the natural order of things for children to make the lives of their parents miserable, but it is a despicable thing for a parent to make the life of their child miserable.
@@cameronmoore2713 Children are difficult to raise, yes, but people know that going into it. If children are a misery maybe don't have them, or use the resources out there to figure out how to not let parenting be a misery.
Again, I'm not saying it's easy or fun process. No child should be made to feel they are hated in the one structure society provides to support them, family is supposed to be a support not a drain.
@@cameronmoore2713 Also if you remember what it feels like to be a child treated this way, why wouldn't you go out of your way to try and make sure that as a parent you don't treat them that way? Why resent the children You chose to have and then get mad they're resentful of you? It's not right, and I am sorry people in your life (children or not) made you feel that way (now and maybe then).
I am pretty sure William lived long enough for Victoria to make it to eighteen out of spite towards her mother.
In this alone he was absolutely correct. And actually did what was best for the kingdom.
1000%
Large part of the credit for it goes to wife Adelaide. She got him to sober up, exercise more and eat healthier during their marriage.
That was pretty much his only mission in life by the time he gave his famous speech, and he died knowing he had succeeded in living past Victoria's 18th birthday. I wonder what he thought on the day of Victoria's 18th birthday, although I'd guess that he would have felt joy knowing that his niece would be able to sit the throne without a regency once he was gone
He did just out of spite
Victoria looked like a little baby doll as a child
6:29 Carl actually stopped being a sovereign prince in 1806, when the principality was abolished. He was however, still the owner of many lands throughout Germany, topped by the beautiful Amorbach Abbey which the Leiningens still own today
10:24 Ernest Augustus may have actually been projecting. His own son became blind in one eye due to an illness in 1828 and lost sight in his other eye due to an accident in 1833. By starting rumours about the precarity of Victoria’s health, he may have been trying to distract from the potential incapacity of his own son (who actually turned out fine, marrying and having three children)
10:15 I think it’s supposed to be second husband here. Frederica was actually married thrice, and had children by all of her marriages. However, there nothing suspicious about the death of her first husband, Prince Louis Charles of Prussia in 1796, because he died of diphtheria. It’s her second husband Prince Frederick William of Solms-Braunfels that attracted notoriety, because Frederica was in the process of divorcing him so she could marry Ernest Augustus when he suddenly died in April 1814, removing the need and necessitating the Prince Regent’s begrudging consent to the match as he had no ground to oppose it.
That is really cool information thank you 😊 🙏
@@heindlwest It would’ve been nigh on impossible to get away with murdering your niece. It doesn’t help that we don’t actually know how much validity there was to the accusations against Ernest as he had many political enemies who had every reason to tarnish his reputation, as he was very active in the House of Lords. So I suppose we’ll never know
I think it’s really interesting that princess Eugenie named her sons August and Ernest.
@@ravenzyblack Funny enough, those names have nothing to do with previous Ernest Augustus’s in the royal family. August gets his name from Prince Albert (Victoria’s husband), who’s second given name was August, and Ernest gets his name from George V, who’s third given name was Ernest.
Up until a few years ago I didn't even know that Queen Victoria had any siblings.
I’ve always heard that she had 2 half siblings, but no one ever mentioned them, so I thought they died young, like most young kids those days.
Same!!🤗
Same
I always thought she was an only child! I'm very happy to hear she had such a delightful relationship with her sister
Thank you for this wonderful episode.
I feel great compassion for poor Victoria who had to grow up under the cruel Kensington System and Conroy's bullying. However, what a magnificent and courageous queen she turned out to be. Human like us all who always tried and endeavoured 'to be good'.
Thank God for young Victoria's strong, intelligent, compassionate & very loyal governess! Much admiration for her that she stood firm and didn't allow Conroy to bully her out of her protective position of the future Queen.
An interesting fact is that the last surviving relative of Queen Victoria's generation was Arthur von Eppinghoven, son born out of wedlock by her loved uncle Leopold of Belgium and Arcadie Claret: He was born in 1852 and died in 1940 (at 88 years old) during the nazist occupation of Belgium, after a life of strong links with the Belgian royal family.
I know fedora from the Victoria series, and I also knew her mother married and has two children before her father, thanks for the story about her older siblings.
Not Jeff here. I always wondered what the reign of Queen Charlotte would have been like. By all accounts she was intelligent, generous, and open hearted. Also she was a bit hoydenish when young and not afraid to be unconventional. She and Leopold were deeply in love. Perhaps her reign would have been an era of social changes without the excesses of the Regency and the social rigidity of the later Victorian.
It would've been amazing to see a Carolinian era with her with the crown and her son as heir, but we have Charles now, so I guess there's our Carolinian era
She was NOT "Open hearted" LoL! Maybe as a child but not as an adult and she was a particularly awful, controlling and cold Mother. She treated her children horribly. She rarely saw them when they were children.
Charlotte died giving birth to her first child, who was stillborn. How could she had been awful mother, when she never had a living child? Are you by any change mixing Charlotte and Victoria here?
@@SlimKeith11 theyre talking about charlotte not victoria
@@SlimKeith11
Charlotte as princess of wales not Queen Charlotte as her grandmother
I visited Kensington Palace in December 2019 and thoroughly enjoyed the tour as you did. Loved seeing your footage of you walking thru the rooms. One of my favorite moments was seeing her diamond and emerald tiara on display that Albert gifted to her, seeing it in person was priceless. This video was fantastic, as I knew about the Kensington System but didn’t know much about her older siblings. Great job!!!
Your video made me rewatch 'The Young Victoria' movie, it's amazing that it's so accurate to what you've explained 👏
Like Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Victoria proved that being a princess isn't all that's cracked up to be. Even a palace can be a prison.
A video on royal governesses and tutors would be interesting
Nice one I never even knew Victoria had siblings and I thought I had watched all the history videos imaginable.
William IV cleared tf out of Duchess victoria with that line 😂 even I was having my timbers quite shivered 🥶
Seen my workplace there for a brief moment. I work as a tour guide at Ehrenburg Palace in Coburg 😊 Thus I enjoy your videos very much.
I think some of the paintings for little Victoria shown near were actually portraits of her daughters Vicky and Alice. In one of the portraits, the little girl holds a pocket watch-like object with a picture of what looks like Albert.
The monarchy in the early 1800s before Victoria was pretty ridiculous. This added to Victoria's popularity, because she wasn't as bad as the ones that came before her. Most biographies of Victoria never mention these half siblings, making her out to be a lonely child locked up in a palace.
movies too...
Thanks I did not know that she had anyone else. It is good to know at least for part of her
youth she had others around even if older than her. Enjoy the Holidays.🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊
I like reading about Victoria's relationships with her half-siblings. My grandpa also had 2 older half-siblings (who were 18 & 17 years his senior) from their mother's first marriage; however, my grandpa's relationship to his half-siblings were extremely distant for reasons I don't know. He did grow up knowing of their existence, but the relationships fluctuated year-by-year. My mom didn't know of them until she was already an adult. There were small reconciliations made, but there was still no strong relationship. My great-aunt was a guest at my parents wedding and my baptism, but she died shortly after; and my great-uncle died before I was born. My grandpa doesn't even have any pictures of them (that I know of), and all but 1 of his nephews have passed away; he also has no interest in reconnecting with that branch, and neither does my mom, even though I've matched with 2 of my half-2nd cousins on Ancestry. It's sad that my family was so disconnected, but there's really nothing that can be done now.
Yes, it happens so much, that many people do not know much about their heritage. It is fascinating to learn about family trees. I would love to step back in time to meet so many, and hear their life stories.
I would love to see a series about her childhood. I’d definitely enjoy it
Wow !! I didn't knew that queen Victoria had half brothers!!! Like always i love your videos!!! Hugs from San Francisco California
Your videos are always so well written and presented, love them
I loved how loyal Victoria and Feodora were to each other! Imagine if Feodora had been queen before Victoria, could that have changed something? . . .
Feodora was not in the Hanoverian line of succession.
I looove your videos! I always learn more, Queen Victoria life is really interesting!
Great video Lindsay :) I was very lucky to attend an event at Frogmore, Queen Victoria's Mother's mausoleum is stunning
I'm sorry, I just have to say that court painters really were the Snapchat filters of their day 😂 Knowing what Victoria and Albert actually looked like vs. How they were portrayed in paintings makes me laugh every time 😂😂
To be honest, Albert’s paintings were accurate. He was very handsome, great body and tall if you see photographs of him as a young man. There’s around two or three floating around the internet. People often commented about his good looks in letters as well. The only thing was he aged very quickly due to being sickly, so he lost his looks at an early age (around mid 30s). People commented on that too. How he looked much older than his age, once he started approaching his 40s. That was probably because he was basically slowly dying at that point. I agree that Victoria wasn’t much of a looker though and her paintings were flattering.
Because photographs of a 50-year-old woman who had borne nine children without competent medical care are so very likely to represent exactly what she looked like at nineteen. 🙄
@mehere8299 There are actually numerous photographs of her from even when she was young. The first ever photograph of Victoria was taken when she was 23. Her paintings portray her to look like a cherubic, fairytale princess's but in reality.... she clearly wasn't.
Queen Victoria def had RBF lol so I don’t blame the court painters for giving her a softer look, they got her bone structure and chubby cheeks right usually though
Rbf?
Thank-you Lindsay. This is an interesting, informative & exceptional video!
Great video. I enjoyed listening on my way home from work.
Victoria had to fight for some semblance of self determination all her young life and she did not waste her time on fripperies. By the time she ascended the throne she was a seasonned warrior with a plan.
Thank you for the videos of the British family. They are my favorite
You German royal family. They certainly weren't that british back then.
Another Awesome Video as I CANT wait to know about Queen’s Siblings
Hey Lindsey! How about a video on Feodora’s female descents including the Kings of Sweden and Spain? What do you think caused those relationships?
Outstanding ~ as usual! Thanks so very much. So interesting.
Her first name was a lot prettier imo. Georgiana in general is a beautiful name. Thank you Lindsay!❤
I'm a flight attendant and they changed our layover hotel to one that's at the end of the park from Kensington! So I'm probably going to pick up a LHR to visit !
Love this . I am a decedent and love family history. ❤ Thank you for sharing.
Wonderful documentary know a fair bit about Victoria but learned a lot here thank you
I would like to know more of the funerals of the Monarchs that weren't well loved. Like the Georges, William IV his brothers and the minor royals, like Victoria and Albert's extended family. Fascinating to hear of their lives, but also fascinating to hear of their send off's.
Amazing video as always! You're an inspiration and a master story teller! I swear that i could hear you talk about paint drying and still be entertained! Keep going! You're the Best!😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Happy Holidays,Miss Holiday! I really like it. Thank you❤
Her live would made a perfect soap opera or telenovela
I love learning about British history
Poor Adelaide, can't imagine losing al those children. 😢
OMG I love this channel soo much!!
Hope you had an amazing Christmas lindsay! This is a great late gift! You're amazing! 🎅🎅🎅🎁🎁🎁🎄🎄🎄🎄
I had a childhood similar to Queen Victoria, it was lonely and I'm always paranoid....😅😅😅
Unfortunately, it was the normal perspective at the time that the right way to parent children was to install genuine fear into them. They believed that was what made children good, respectable God-fearing Christians. Never give then room or an opportunity to make a single mistake that may not only ruin their lives but send them to hell for all eternity. That's what, and still, what some people, believe about raising children. Unfortunately, some people and current trends have taking it too far the other way. Giving children no rules, no standards, no boundaries, no morals, no protection. I've been working with children for most of my life and finally about to become a parent myself. I don't believe in being drill sergeant strict with no exceptions, but I don't believe in being loosey goosey either. I have to protect my children from unnecessary things, but I can't shelter my child either. I can teach my child right and wrong and about Jesus, but I can't expect my child to so-called perfect. I do want my child to develop his or her own mind and own person, while hopefully knowing right and wrong, which isn't always black and right, even from person to person. I want my child to behave well and not give teachers and others too much grief (good luck on that one), but I also don't want my child to be robot oriented and be easily mowed over by others. There's a perfect balance to everything. We're going to make mistakes as parents, but we can learn from those mistakes and learn how to work together as a family, just like our families do. Love, guidance, some discipline, support, and respect are the basics.
merry christmas, ms. lindsay! thanks for putting out this informative video even during the holidays :3 💟
Actually got a notification for a new video for once!
Hope you had a good holiday! 🎄❤️💚
I generally really like ITV's show Victoria, but on the third season they decided to present Feodora as a cartoon villain that resented her sister and made everything in her power to ruin her marriage and relationships with her children. It was pretty painful to watch because it didn't serve any real purpose, and I didn't understand why show yet another tumoltuous relationship of Victoria with a family member, since this one was so good and healthy in real life.
12:12 is actually a picture of Louise(a), Victoria's daughter. Just for reference!
I was wondering why that hair looked so distinctly 1840's lol
The picture at 18:45 is a spitting image of Princess Beatrice
I’ve never really liked queen Vicky but she did have an interesting long life and her diaries are interesting. Often there is much information about the childhoods of monarchs especially those you were not the original heir.
Make a video about Vitoria's friendship with Maria II from Portugal
Considering Earnst Augustus likely r4ped his sister Sophia (my name!) they were right to protect her from him, and the harsh Kensington method likely did keep little Victoria safe, but it was terrible nonetheless.
This makes me wonder what his son was like
It may have kept her safe, but at the cost of her mental and social health deteriorating.
Simply excellent, I learned so much from your teaching. Thank you.
i feel that Conroy was the reason behind Victoria's later treatment of Ireland, but thats just me
Nah that’s just a British thing
stop talking nonsense. What treatment of Ireland?
@@glen7318 the famine, obviously
I can not imagine having the hots for my first cousin, many of them are like my brothers.
You grew up with them. Victoria and Albert did not.
@@livingincaptivityIII whether they grew up together or not they’re still related. And we all know how that ended up.
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The Haemophilia originated from Victoria's maternal line. She could have married anyone else and her offspring would still have inherited Haemophilia or become carriers.
My parents are not related and I still inherited Porphyria. My sister married a man from another country, a different gene pool and her children have two inherited disorders from both parents.
@@livingincaptivityIII incest is great for producing offspring, I’ll let you have that 👍🏽
A truly amazing story.
Love English/British history and your videos on it are my favorites! Victoria loved her sister dearly and one of her youngest daughters (beatrice) names was feodore in her honor.🇯🇪🇯🇪🇯🇪🇯🇪🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤❤❤
Ha... you mean German history.
According to that TV series Victoria, her nickname was Drina
Queen Victoria has always been my favorite. This show was very informative. TFS
First time viewer of this channel, and I thoroughly enjoyed this! Extremely well done. I will be watching for more content. Thank you!
Queens of the World requests
Mihrimah Sultana
Charlotte of Wales (not the current one)
Amonute
Maire Laveau, Voodoo queen of New Orleans (spooky video for Halloween maybe?)
If anything, Conroy got off easy. Queen Victoria could have easily have sentenced him to death for all the pain and suffering she went through at the hands of him and her mother. And it's not just the abuse she endured, it was the money laundering he did towards the Royal family.
Yes, he was a pos. He stole money from queen Victoria's elderly aunt, princess Sophia.
No
He knew too much. He was essentially bribed with another knighthood and an annuity to keep quiet.
dont talk such absolute rot.
Well said
Is it me or does conroy looks like Mr. Wickham from the BBC Pride and Prejudice version
Another wonderful video Lindsay! Your British monarchy videos always hit just the right spot for an anglophile monarchist such as myself
love your videos, from the uk
Great video!
Few might know that Victoria's grandson Kaiser Willhelm II married Feodora's granddaughter Auguste Victoria, making them secon-cousins.
And their descendant (granddaughter, Frederika) became mother of King Constantine [of Greece], his sister Queen Sophia of Spain, and princess Irene (unm.).
Are you saying Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld lived more than 40 years in the United Kingdom and never learned English? 🧐 🤔
Yes. According to The Royal Diaries Victoria May Blossom of Brittania England, 1829, her mother really struggled with her English, if she learned it at all. Sir John Conroy, Victoria's father's comptroller, would roar at Victoria's mum for speaking German and not English.
@@ChibiProwl I love that book series I have all 20 of them
Very informative. Nicely done. Thank you!
59 seconds ago? I've never been this early 😂😂 so excited for another video ❤
Sorrows, sorrows, prayers
27:12 as a texan of german descent whose family has been in the state for ~200 years this is very interesting to me
Victoria look just like her father
Queen Margethe II of Denmark will abdicate on the 14th of January.
Merry Late Christmas! Ngl, Victoria has major only child energy😭
That tends to happen when one is the youngest, with elder siblings, from a previous marriage.
This is much more about Victoria than her siblings.
Thank you for providing information about the much overlooked siblings of Queen Victoria. I know how great separations in age and distance can be obstacles to closeness. If anyone cares to read on, I will share my own family situation.
I am not a queen 😅 but I have half siblings. I am the youngest of five. My father's first wife died tragically of a brain hemorrhage at only 36, leaving him three teenagers to raise. Within two years he married my mother. My oldest sister was already 20 years old when I was born, followed by my brother who was 17, and another sister who was 15. My only full sister is 3 years older than me. She and I grew up very close and remain close to this day. Understandably, I was not able to be as close to my half sisters and brother, as they were so much older, and then they all moved out of the house, went to college and got married.
I get why Victoria felt like an only child. Her much older half brother and sister didn't even live in the same country. It wasn't that they didn't love each other. They just didn't have enough opportunity to know one another. In her case, being heir to the throne and then queen of Great Britain was also a special barrier. It is good to know Feodora and Karl had prosperous lives in their own right, and that they all stayed in touch through correspondence and visits through the years. When you all reach middle age, those differences in years hardly matter.
In my family's case, there are only three of us left. My parents are both long gone. My eldest sister and one brother also passed away. I am very, very grateful to still have my two, dear sisters. I am especially glad to have grown much closer to the sister who is 15 years older than me. I think she finally understands that I am no longer 8 years old. And she doesn't have to babysit me anymore. 😊
And here I thought Victoria was an only child.
I feel like I have just been hit by the Mandela Effect. I have NEVER heard of Victoria's brother and sister in any movie, tv series or documentary. Wtf?
Feodora was actually in the TV series.
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A very unfair portrayal.
@@livingincaptivityIII not gonna lie it was very unfair. And inaccurate. Feodora and Victoria were known to be close so to have her estranged and jealous of her sister was absurd.
@@damonika09 Precisely.
Can you do a video on Queen Margrethe of Denmark’s family please? And maybe more videos on Black American or black European history
When the scene that feodora and victoria seperated that made me cry that made me think of losing my sister😢😢😢
Hello Lindsay, i learned something new today about Queen Victoria’s Half sister. What are your main sources for each vidéo? Merry chrismas and enjoy the last day’s of the year.🎉
Would love to know more about Theadora. I believe her descendants are on the Spanish throne.
Watched The Young Victoria many years ago and they did not show her half siblings. Can you do St. Elizabeth of Hungary soon Lindsey?
Do one on the house of wittelsbach
I wonder if there’s info on the non royal children the brothers had. A few were mentioned but there had to be a few that were well known enough to end up as a general or something
I seriously want the producers and writers of The Crown to make a prequel about Queen Victoria and King Edward VII. I know there's a series called Victoria, but it didn't really speak to me. It was really bland, and Jenna Colman lacked charisma. Hope that they make it someday.
I miss Victoria. So mad they canceled it.
There was a 13-part series from the 70s titled Edward VII. Worth watching, and may still be on RUclips
I agree, and I feel like Jenna Colman was a terrible choice to portray Victoria, considering she looks absolutely nothing like her. Victoria had pretty distinct facial features, and it can't have been that hard to find a good actress who at least somewhat resembles her.
@@kendracrispin5327 That one focuses more on Edward rather then Victoria, Victoria just seemed overly grouchy in that series when in reality she wasn't *that* miserable.
BBC miniseries Edward VII is fantastic! It’s a 1970s gem but great nonetheless 👍🏼
Lindsay, I love mostly all of your video so much ❤ could you make a video about royal assassination. Most royal around the world either europe or asia ahve experience assassination
Happy new year. Can you please do a video on Cleopatra?