Thank you Kris. I'm trying to figure out how to do that testing. I feel like I'd need to buy some expensive equipment, like a spine tester and straightness tester, so that holds me back.
What can go wrong with this head other than the price ? A2 ? And 59 hardness ? This is a super head,not to mention titanium. Did well on the concrete. The only thing i'd say to improve on is to strop it more. 275 was not impressive to me. I'd like them to be under 200,especially a single bevel. You need that extra sharpness as they rotate. I like the bite over a 1.25 inch cut on a rotating sharp head ? All day long for me. Flew nice as well. Once again John a perfect test,and let me just say this, you are AMAZING @ bringing us archers unknown new start up heads. This one here has Iron Will make up,but i'd assume a bit less in price. Razor guys if you read this, just get them sharper somehow like the Iron Will and Crimson Talon Cleaver.
One awesome bone buster for sure. Out of a 70# bow this one has got to awesome. Would love to see it used on a huge boar. Gotta schedule a pig hunt John.
Any chance you would test Abowyer single bevels again with the new test setup? Another great Michigan company that's been in the single bevel game along time.
I tested them in the past, before I really had a regimen in place. I would love to test them again. Unfortunately I have all the broadheads I can handle for 2024. And I also have about 30 already for 2025. But if someone were to send me some of Aboyers, I would test them.
I think this is the same Company that Traditional Bowhunting and Outdoor Jason uses since this is from the state he was living in until very end of 2022 when he is moving to Georgia and knows the person, got the company to make a head for his needs at 250 grains. Before he had to take a glue on single bevel head at 125 grains and use a glue to screw on attachment at 125 grains as well to have the width he wanted, not using a 3:1 or 4:1 head size due to how skinny the modern brands want to make 175 grain and up heads in single bevel 2 blade. Now a few modern companies are seeing a gap for 200 and 250 grains in single bevel with a wider width then 1.25 inch so they are not a 3:1 size and then for single bevel at 175 grains.
What a nice 200 grain broadhead. Myself I have 200 gr XXL Overkills for my heavy setup 608 grain with I think 19% FOC then my lighter is a 540 grain with a 17% FOC that's with 240 grizzly stixs with heavy and 300s grizzly stixs with lighter. Depending on my situation and game both setups are very deadly. Thanks John...
Thanks for all of your testing. I like your sharing test, but wish u could yell us what steel is the easiest and quickest to get a razor sharp edge. After all sharpness is the vehicle that provides a quick humane kill.
Thanks Mike. The easiest to get sharp is always the opposite of the best to stay sharp. Cheap, soft steel gets sharp very easily. Harder, expensive steel is more difficult to sharpen, but holds its edge. Edge retention is more important than initial sharpness, cause the first impact on hide can dull a blade considerably.
Hey I don't know if anybody's ever told you but if your string on your bow is spun up clockwise your arrow is going to come off bear shaft without anything on it to the left and that you fletch it to the right and single bevel to the right a little ways trying to go to the left and it's Legends are going to overpower it and then spin it back the opposite way to the right they found that out on high-speed camera a lot of guys say they can't tell if it would affect it or not but a lot of guys say they feel like if that arrow is stopped spinning in mid-flight and it's going to hurt your accuracy I don't know I know a lot of people are worried about their broadheads coming off when it hits the animal I believe that's why they spend them to the right
Thanks Bernard. I do get asked that a lot. My challenge is: How would I test them? I'd have to get some serious equipment to measure straightness & spine...and I don't have the money for that at this point.
Well, the dimensions/geometry are quite different. The Razor has only one straight side going completely into the point, whereas the IW has 2 angles to each side, making a true tanto tip, which they have patented.
Thanks. Yeah, for top quality steel and all US made, you won’t beat that price. But for Chinese made or a less superior steel, there are a lot of cheaper options.
I didn't recognize that when I bought them the other day, now I'm a bit disturbed on if I want to use it, because like Dr Ashby sais that little step up will hinder Penetration its not wise to deviate from Dr Ashby 12 steps to arrow lethality.
A lot of the single bevel broadheads seem to look alike. I wonder if there are any patent infringements going on? Also John, have you done a review on the Kudu broadheads? They almost look identical except for the retainer screws
I don't think so on the infringement--there are so many difference in dimensions and ferrules that can allow for that. I've tested a couple Kudus. If you ever wonder if I've tested something just type in the name of the broadhead and Lusk to the RUclips Search bar--they will come up. Kudu Lusk for example.
Wow, very impressive, but the cost is up there.. I would love to see a company make something in the range of 10 to 15 buck a head, they'd sale more and have a huge customer bace..
Yeah-to use top quality steel and be all US, then this is going to be about the lowest you can find. But if you’re willing to go to China and less superior steel, then the price comes way down. For that, hard to beat the Crimson Talon Cleaver for a single bevel. And I have a discount code to make it even less. Alien also makes some good options, as does Kayuga and A2.
If you have a basic understanding of the cost of quality materials sourced in the USA and precision CNC-machining, you wouldn't even suggest a quality head being sold at retail for $10-15. Guys pay that for garbage mechanicals made in China that disenegrate after hitting a rib. Heads like this can be re-sharpened and used over and over again. It's crazy guys spend thousands on bowhunting rigs and skimp on the most important part of the arrow system.
@@PoeOutdoors Thanks, I do have a understanding, but thanks for the smartass remark. This is what is wrong, with this world, a bunch of keyboard warriors.. We could make quality USA made gear, but we have something called, Greed. Look at Origin, they make outstanding clothes at a fair price; how can they do this? I'll tell you, they aren't Greedy, they believe in America.. We, as consumers must send a clear message, that we will not buy, crap gear for China anymore. But until we do, we will always take it in the shorts.
The head is also not a tanto tip, that’s the patent iron will has. Also, with the Razor it’s the same blade angle all the way down for sharpening, no change in curvature?
Apparently, these guys just got called out an hour ago on the Ranch Fairy RUclips page For illegally, using his name on their website without his permission. It must’ve worked because his name is no longer there. Pretty bad when you go to poach somebody’s name in hopes that it will raise your sales revenue
Different blade dimensions, different hardening process of the steel, different angle of bevel, different price, different ferrule/bolt system, to name a few. But they are both 2 blade single bevels (Iron Will also makes double bevels) made out of A2 steel.
That's one simple, solid head. No bells and whistles necessary.
Yep.
As a fellow Michigander. Proud to see excellent products like this being made. Nice job.
Yes sir!
This is an impressive broadhead!
yep.
Great review thank you John, looks like a fantastic broadhead.
Thank you
Here we go! Best part of my Monday!
Awww. Thank you
Another awsome video. Still hoping to see some arrow shafts testing with the major market stuff.
Thank you Kris. I'm trying to figure out how to do that testing. I feel like I'd need to buy some expensive equipment, like a spine tester and straightness tester, so that holds me back.
Another quality single bevel!
Yep
Beautiful broadhead. Another great test.
Thank you
What can go wrong with this head other than the price ? A2 ? And 59 hardness ? This is a super head,not to mention titanium. Did well on the concrete. The only thing i'd say to improve on is to strop it more. 275 was not impressive to me. I'd like them to be under 200,especially a single bevel. You need that extra sharpness as they rotate. I like the bite over a 1.25 inch cut on a rotating sharp head ? All day long for me. Flew nice as well.
Once again John a perfect test,and let me just say this, you are AMAZING @ bringing us archers unknown new start up heads. This one here has Iron Will make up,but i'd assume a bit less in price.
Razor guys if you read this, just get them sharper somehow like the Iron Will and Crimson Talon Cleaver.
Thanks brother. Agreed.
You did it again, now have to get more arrows to put all these heads on.
:)
That's exactly what I thought this Head would do, the Concrete was No Surprise ... 😎👍
Yep.
Love that head I think I am going to step up the weight of my broadheads
:)
One awesome bone buster for sure. Out of a 70# bow this one has got to awesome. Would love to see it used on a huge boar. Gotta schedule a pig hunt John.
Pretty sure Jason samkowiak from traditional bow hunting and wilderness podcast shot one last year
Nice. Thanks Tim :)
Looks like a solid head!
Yep.
Real good looking head especially for trad shooters
Yep
Love watching your videos but you need to add the w.e.b. sight to get them
Thanks Terry. If you just type Razor Broadheads into any search engine, like Google or Yahoo, it will come right up.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thank you I found the site yesterday
Their website has for Left bevel, however you can't click on it. Guess they only have right bevel in production
Guessing they’re currently out of stock for left bevel. I seen them on their website earlier in the year.
Yeah, they will be making that in the future.
Now, That's how broadheads are supposed to be.
:)
Any chance you would test Abowyer single bevels again with the new test setup? Another great Michigan company that's been in the single bevel game along time.
I tested them in the past, before I really had a regimen in place. I would love to test them again. Unfortunately I have all the broadheads I can handle for 2024. And I also have about 30 already for 2025. But if someone were to send me some of Aboyers, I would test them.
I think this is the same Company that Traditional Bowhunting and Outdoor Jason uses since this is from the state he was living in until very end of 2022 when he is moving to Georgia and knows the person, got the company to make a head for his needs at 250 grains. Before he had to take a glue on single bevel head at 125 grains and use a glue to screw on attachment at 125 grains as well to have the width he wanted, not using a 3:1 or 4:1 head size due to how skinny the modern brands want to make 175 grain and up heads in single bevel 2 blade. Now a few modern companies are seeing a gap for 200 and 250 grains in single bevel with a wider width then 1.25 inch so they are not a 3:1 size and then for single bevel at 175 grains.
Thanks for the comment. Not sure if it’s the same or not. They just started in 2022. Great guys.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures it is the 200 or 250 grain from same exact company he uses.
It’s like you read my mind for what I was looking for 🤣
Haha. I test so many heads, one of them is bound to connect :)
What a nice 200 grain broadhead. Myself I have 200 gr XXL Overkills for my heavy setup 608 grain with I think 19% FOC then my lighter is a 540 grain with a 17% FOC that's with 240 grizzly stixs with heavy and 300s grizzly stixs with lighter. Depending on my situation and game both setups are very deadly. Thanks John...
Thank you Eric!
Thanks for all of your testing. I like your sharing test, but wish u could yell us what steel is the easiest and quickest to get a razor sharp edge. After all sharpness is the vehicle that provides a quick humane kill.
Thanks Mike. The easiest to get sharp is always the opposite of the best to stay sharp. Cheap, soft steel gets sharp very easily. Harder, expensive steel is more difficult to sharpen, but holds its edge. Edge retention is more important than initial sharpness, cause the first impact on hide can dull a blade considerably.
Hey I don't know if anybody's ever told you but if your string on your bow is spun up clockwise your arrow is going to come off bear shaft without anything on it to the left and that you fletch it to the right and single bevel to the right a little ways trying to go to the left and it's Legends are going to overpower it and then spin it back the opposite way to the right they found that out on high-speed camera a lot of guys say they can't tell if it would affect it or not but a lot of guys say they feel like if that arrow is stopped spinning in mid-flight and it's going to hurt your accuracy I don't know I know a lot of people are worried about their broadheads coming off when it hits the animal I believe that's why they spend them to the right
Thank you for the comment.
That is just a well made broadhead. It is a nice sb head that is tuff and will hold up if you hit bone.
Yep.
Awesome head!!
Yep.
looks like a winner to me. 👍
Yep.
Good job
Thank you
Would love to see some Wasp broadhead in your tests like the Boss and the Sharpshooter
Send him some. He doesn’t buy test heads
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@@timbow50 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
I've tested a number of Wasps, but not those two. If someone sends me a pack, I'll gladly test them.
Hey John
As another subscriber mentioned would be nice to see a few arrow tests?? What do you think
Thanks Bernard. I do get asked that a lot. My challenge is: How would I test them? I'd have to get some serious equipment to measure straightness & spine...and I don't have the money for that at this point.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Yeah I see what you mean.. Would be very daunting task... Stick with the Broadheads!!
Great job !
Looks exactly like Iron Will Broadhead I can post a picture if you like I mean even the feral the only thing that's different is they put two screws
Well, the dimensions/geometry are quite different. The Razor has only one straight side going completely into the point, whereas the IW has 2 angles to each side, making a true tanto tip, which they have patented.
WOW! That's a nice broadhead. No complaints on performance. However, the price is pretty steep for me
Thanks. Yeah, for top quality steel and all US made, you won’t beat that price. But for Chinese made or a less superior steel, there are a lot of cheaper options.
Superb John,will they shoot accurately from an x-bow?
It's hard to say, cause I don't know your set up. But I would imagine they would.
The only issue I have with this head (and yes I own it ) is the ferrule is narrow and doesn’t open a hole that allows the shaft to pass through easily
That's a good observation. Thank you for sharing that.
What size shaft. bc on a standard. 246 diameter arrow they are the same size as all my shafts
@@jhuntley575 .204 Apollo , they are not
I didn't recognize that when I bought them the other day, now I'm a bit disturbed on if I want to use it, because like Dr Ashby sais that little step up will hinder Penetration its not wise to deviate from Dr Ashby 12 steps to arrow lethality.
I knew it was gonna stick in the cinder block
:)
A lot of the single bevel broadheads seem to look alike. I wonder if there are any patent infringements going on? Also John, have you done a review on the Kudu broadheads? They almost look identical except for the retainer screws
Kudus are a concave blade design, nothing like these.
I don't think so on the infringement--there are so many difference in dimensions and ferrules that can allow for that. I've tested a couple Kudus. If you ever wonder if I've tested something just type in the name of the broadhead and Lusk to the RUclips Search bar--they will come up. Kudu Lusk for example.
Grizzly broadheads had single bevel heads years ago no patents and prior art makes it where you can’t patent it .
Looks like a good choice for my high FOC build
Yep
You should add the price point to all your test be nice to know what the expensive heads cost and what the cheap heads do
It's in his description. $31.66 per head
I always do. It's in the video description.
Wow, very impressive, but the cost is up there..
I would love to see a company make something in the range of 10 to 15 buck a head, they'd sale more and have a huge customer bace..
Yeah-to use top quality steel and be all US, then this is going to be about the lowest you can find. But if you’re willing to go to China and less superior steel, then the price comes way down. For that, hard to beat the Crimson Talon Cleaver for a single bevel. And I have a discount code to make it even less. Alien also makes some good options, as does Kayuga and A2.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I try hard to stay away from China products
If you have a basic understanding of the cost of quality materials sourced in the USA and precision CNC-machining, you wouldn't even suggest a quality head being sold at retail for $10-15. Guys pay that for garbage mechanicals made in China that disenegrate after hitting a rib. Heads like this can be re-sharpened and used over and over again. It's crazy guys spend thousands on bowhunting rigs and skimp on the most important part of the arrow system.
@@PoeOutdoors Thanks, I do have a understanding, but thanks for the smartass remark.
This is what is wrong, with this world, a bunch of keyboard warriors..
We could make quality USA made gear, but we have something called, Greed.
Look at Origin, they make outstanding clothes at a fair price; how can they do this?
I'll tell you, they aren't Greedy, they believe in America..
We, as consumers must send a clear message, that we will not buy, crap gear for China anymore.
But until we do, we will always take it in the shorts.
How does this head not violate the patent of the Iron Will heads?
I don’t think they’re similar at all other than the A2.
RAZOR has a wider cut, uses a titanium ferrule, double opposing screws for strength etc…
The head is also not a tanto tip, that’s the patent iron will has. Also, with the Razor it’s the same blade angle all the way down for sharpening, no change in curvature?
It has completely different blade geometries :) Look closely at the two. Iron Will does not have one continual straight edge like these do.
What’s a website I can find these?
I found them at RAZORbroadheads.com
Yep...just google Razor broadheads and they come right up.
👍
:)
Apparently, these guys just got called out an hour ago on the Ranch Fairy RUclips page For illegally, using his name on their website without his permission.
It must’ve worked because his name is no longer there.
Pretty bad when you go to poach somebody’s name in hopes that it will raise your sales revenue
I don't know anything about that.
It's hard to beat A2 tool steel.
It’s really good for broadheads-especially if it’s hardened well and machined.
Not bad at all
Yep
@@LuskArcheryAdventures do they make em in 100-125-150?
Looks a lot like a iron will
There are some similarities, but quite different blade dimensions/geometry.
Basically an ironwill
Well, both are A2 and IW makes a 2 blade head. But the dimensions and ferrule design are a bit different.
So what is the Difference between these and IRON WILLS?
Titanium ferrules, opposing screws for balance, wider cut, and cheaper to name a few.
Different blade dimensions, different hardening process of the steel, different angle of bevel, different price, different ferrule/bolt system, to name a few. But they are both 2 blade single bevels (Iron Will also makes double bevels) made out of A2 steel.