Apple has basically came out saying they have no focus on games, so any features you mentioned they added are likely designed for office/meetings, and I would temper expectations for anything more.
@@theMedicatedCitizen You can get a Mac mini for $599 with an M2 chip capable of running current gen titles like Resident Evil Village. That's become an outdated argument.
M2 in a standalone headset is kinda nuts. Definitely will have some decent performance. However, on the programming side, Unity will probably work just fine on it but im afraid if apple is going to make some mandatory toolkit and libraries for development that would make it difficult to make multi platform games like you can for Quest, Pico and pcvr. imagine if the apple headset uses airtags you put in your socks or something to track legs, that would be pretty funny
@cheddar07 its not porting thats an issue its the SDK or Source Development Kit. For example i can develop for quest, pico and index using openxr because steamvr and the standalone headsets support it. However if i wanted to utilise the passtrhough capabilities of quest, i would have to add the quest sdk and that wouldnt work on the pico. This is a decent tradeoff as most of the codeis still cross platform and i just need to write another bit of code for pico passthrough. However Apples headset will almost definitely run IOS or a flavour of it and this means that it will be significantly different architecture to quest. We dont know if theyre gonna support openxr and even if it does it will be a significant effort by them and if it doesnt, its a massive L to small and single developers.
Guys you don’t need a head strap with a battery, just take a 30 dollar portable battery and stick it in your pocket, string it through your shirt and bam 5-8 hours more of battery life. The kiwi elite only gives 2-3 extra hours so first purchase for a Quest should 100% be a battery pack.
I recently got a Reverb G2 while it was on sale and it completely blew me away and revived my love for VR. I hadn’t touched my quest in like 2 years and didn’t really enjoy using it because the resolution was so bad and it was insanely heavy and uncomfortable. But the G2 has way bigger FOV, crystal clear resolution, its light as a feather, and the audio system Is amazing. I will regularly use it for 4-5 hours and not even realize it, with the quest I could barely use it for an hour before my neck and face was in pain. It’s by far the best 300$ I’ve ever spent!
@@GBHorizon i had both and i dont like either of them, i recently gave away my quest 1 to a friend and i sold my quest 2, they are way too heavy for me and overall just not good in my opinion. Low resolution , small FOV, insanely heavy, controllers are tiny and feel cheap, oculus link is buggy and a pain in the ass sometimes, i dont trust Meta ect...
Yeah the Reverb G2 is amazing. The resolution by itself blows most headsets out of the water. I've also been using the kinect for full body and for what it's worth, I freakin' love it.
If anything, the razer headstrap looks reminiscent of the original Quest 1 headstrap. Which I really liked, so honestly surprised this is the first time anyone attempted anything similar
Super small headsets are ones I can't wait for every headset to evolve into. Having to carry around a heavy, big headset is a bit of a pain, so having a light weight headset is amazing. Can't wait until they get to the size of glasses 👀
Reverb g2 here. Not my favorite set up experience, especially when using space calibrations for lighthouse tracking needs, but it works great when it works ^^
@@Eskoxo freal -_- I'm looking forwards to micro-oleds and the like, especially if it is native steamvr (something like maganex when its more consumer price oriented). Lots to look forwards to sooomeday.
I'm using the reverb g2 and I really like it. I wanted something that had great graphics so the index and quest was out of the picture, but I couldn't spend 2 k on it either so I found a decent middle ground for about $350 ish. Now the only thing I don't like about the reverb g2 is the hand tracking. The hands will regularly loose tracking out of nowhere but all I need to do is shake it for a second and the tracking comes back. In the end I decided to go with the index knuckles because I wanted the finger tracking so that added an extra $600 making my total at about $1100. Still cheaper than most high end headset at the time ($1,500+)
1:1 what i did. but i have the problem, that my index knuckles aren't tracking correctly. so i must most of the time recalibrate it and its annoying and because of this reason, i dont spend much time in vr. still waiting for the deckard have a nice day! (sorry about my english)
@@makoto3471 what I ended up doing is separating the hardware so only my knuckles, lighthouses, and headset show up on steam VR. Not using the windows VR system but only using steam VR system. Should help with the knuckle tracking
I used an Acer WMR headset for two years until finally getting a quest2 last month In the beginning I only wanted VR for sim racing, for which the wmr platform is quite decent; but after getting interested in HL:A and VRC and whatnot, the general lack of polish and optimisation of the WMR ecosystem was very noticeable, and a huge quality of life upgrade when I switched to the quest2
I was at CES... it was bonkers!... I've been going every year for the past 20 years...lol... I tried the MeganeX and they were nice... but the nose piece was uncomfortable, and the sides leaked light (but both problems could be rectified by installing the eyecups, which were off because it's a prototype)... the Pimax Crystal was pretty stunning... and the Magic Leap AR device was pretty nice... I saw the XTal but I didn't get to try it...
Very excited for shiftall's vr tech. Very much geared towards vrchat users/entertainers (dancers with their fbt, and now musicians/djs with their new vr controllers)
There's really no point in having a refresh rate higher than 90hz on a standalone. I'd rather the extra power be spent on better visuals. Like i think it's absolutely dumb to have the Quest home environment run at high FPS with its crappy resolution.
I have the quest 2 and pro, but my first was a a WMR headset, the Dell Visor. It is super comfortable, but outside of seated VR, I won't go back to a tethered experience. That said, fresnel lenses and it's resolution are noticably lower than my Pro, so, I'm spoiled now, but TBH, it's still amazing.
finally, a headstrap that considers people with flat heads! I can't use the ones with the joint in the temple area, which is most of the third party ones 😥
i feel like the base head strap is just hated by people who dont know how to properly fit it. I have had no issues with the base head strap and have scenarios where its been better than the after markets that ive used. aside from no battery, its honestly not even bad
I think "external display" was a bit misunderstood. This does not mean external display support, but the front itself is a display where you can display probably some kind of eyes replacemeant I would guess.
I use wmr headset I got it for christmas because of the 300 dollars off sale (hp reverb g2) People make it seem like its tracking sucks (it doesn't) but still a BIG upgrade from my old vr (psvr)
I have HP Reverb G2. Got it for little over 1 year and well exept from tracking of controlers and cable (I am on my third) it is good. It has same speaker as Vive and mic is good and the resulotion is super. The most problem, exept cable, I have had was the binding in VRC for the controlers.
My solution for the whole battery thing not just for the quest 2 or razer headstrap but what I do is run a charger down my back into my pocket under my shirt or hoodie and the cheap 10 dollar battery keeps my headset charged mid game for well over 4 hours and then when the battery in my pocket dies my headset will be at no less than 98 percent and I charge the battery while playing and by the time my quest battery hits 30 percent my battery is charged giving me a extra 3-5 hours
I think people buy used WMR headsets, they go dirt cheap. Its the cheapest way to get into VR and there are tons of them out there. You can get a headsets for under 100$. And the Samsung Odyssey has quite nice OLED screens, so if you can get that for 100$ or less, its quite nice.
@@wraithdino1217 Majority of people don't have 300, if you look at steam charts.. what is the most common GPU? Majority of this globe are poor. Used WMR headsets is an opportunity to try out VR without basically any cost. As you can sell of off at the same price you bought it.
Kind of fun to see the quest pro, vive a bit cheaper, then psvr around the corner with similar specs but way lower price. (but proboly ps exlusive). well no battery&standalone. but then you compare it to Q2 having it all at 400 remove all exept cpu&battery.Si 600-900 is my assumed price point for 2,5 specs now (eye tracking).
7:57 High Resolution Passthrough refers OBVIOUSLY to the passthrough cameras (the cameras that allows you to see the "real world") and High Resolution means that this cameras will not be garbage like the quest 2
5:00 while the Vive XR lacks eye tracking out of the box, the module will probably be MUCH easier to set up on Social PCVR than Meta's offerings. Everyone i know that's tried to setup a Quest Pro face tracking on PC has only been met with walls. Same for the hand tracking. Vive XR ~might~ even have native hand tracking forwarding into Steam VR, which will be good for PCVR Social games like VRC/Neos/CVR
i very much doubt the Vive XR would have native handtracking forwarding to SteamVR, as the Vive Focus 3, which has the same capability and iirc uses the exact same streaming software, can't do it
I would not be surprised if most of the wmr headsets are gen 1 because I've seen them on sale as low as £80. It's a ridiculously cheap way of getting into PCVR
I've got the orginal HP WMR head set for my PC, it's still pretty goood. I also have a Quest 2 and admitadly use it more. I started off with a PSVR, which i still have and still use for certain games
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As far as comfort goes, PSVR has my vote. And with PSVR 2 coming next month, I'll be back in virtual reality soaking in all that glory. Man, I love VR 😁
I don't buy many Apple products either and my Oculus rift cable is damaged... It really bothers me that meta stop supporting their product. I need a new VR headset I don't know if I should wait for the quest 3 or what I should do. I don't mind being tethered to my PC.
6:28 ok now THAT might be what I got with over a quest pro or quest 3. I really generally dont want the quest pro, its expensive for what it is and seems uncomfortable for long play sessions. But that, well, its just glasses, cant get more comfortable than that. And a PC only headset with inside out tracking, just what ive been waiting for. I hope by the time it comes out they find a way to connect quest pro controllers directly to the PC so I dont have to worry about tracking issues.
im not gonna lie i was in google looking at vr news i saw razer head strap and like after 10 mins later a notification came from you about the razer headstrap right now...
Hey Mysticle, you say the XR Elite doesn't have eye tracking. You mean by default then right? Because I'm 90% certain that it'll have its own eye-tracking module.
Did anyone get the death message for the quest 1? No more joining parties, no more features, and bugfixes only until 2024... Still waiting for the quest 3 to upgrade so this is not good news
Is the vive xr elite meant for gaming or business? I've been watching videos on it and none of them say. Either that or i'm stupid. I don't wanna spend the money on a VR that isn't meant for gaming, because I know that's the only reason I get these headsets. I have enough for the vive xr so does anyone know?
So, 1100 for the XR Elite is better than 1500 lol sure but I'm still leaning it's overpriced and not worth it. That said, I also think the quest pro is SEVERELY overpriced and not worth 1500 so .... but the specs of it just don't wow me. Resolution 1920 x 1920? that's it??? and 90htz??? The FOV is interesting at 110 but then again, the Pico 4 has higher resolution at 2160 x 2160 and while the Pico 4's FOV is only 105 ish with the stock facecover, I think we can get that higher with some of these third party ones coming out (which I'm currently waiting on 2 to arrive) and the Pico 4 is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper so I'm really struggling to see how the XR Elite is worth 1100. Maybe 800. I guess if your trying to claim to compete with one overpriced headset with mediocre specs than ..... LMAO :)
@@nouns7504 yeah I usually just buy used, last year was the first time in a decade that I bought a new iPhone… but still you can get a MacBook pro and a quest pro / vive XR for 3000€. Just seems like a crazy price to me…
Honestly, I used to be excited for Apple's headset, but after learning more about it, it really doesn't seem interesting at all, and I feel like when it releases, nothing will change.
Apple's headset definitely will not have Micro OLED display. Samsung only makes that for their The Wall tv and they can't make it below 77 inch tv right now. Micro OLED is still years away from mass production. I could maybe see it having QD-OLED though. I wouldn't put much faith into this report on the Apple headset becuase of the obvious impossibility of it using Micro OLED, a tv tech that hasn't been mass produced yet.
Too much hardware with not enough good software. I feel that software needs to catch up. I hope beatsaber coming to psvr2 brings some good will with psvr2 games coming to PC via meta or hopefully the wider PC VR platform
Not true at all. There are many amazing VR games now (both VR mods and native.) 1. Resident Evil Franchise (2, 3, 7 and Village.) Outstanding, must play VR experiences all around. Just make sure to use the "smooth locomotion" mods for 2 and 3. 2. Half Life 2 VR mod. 3. Half Life: Alyx 4. Mother VR (Alien Isolation) 5. Subnautica. (The new 2.0 update that just released made the VR mode much better.) 6. Contractors 7. Every racing sim with VR support.
@@Skrenja most you named are community mods. I am aware of all on flat 2 VR modding discord and Luke Ross but official actual VR games is still light . Alyx is amazing yes but there are more new headsets than actual good official VR games you named.
i started with the hp windows mixed reality vr headset. the one looked like robo cop. lol. it was great. then i got rift s then one week later i got quest 2. had that ever sence
If they want to make a more comfortable vr headset, why not just use a full helmet design? Not only will this produce much better weight distribution, it will also mean the display doesn't have to touch any part of the face. Also for driving and pilot sim players it will add to the realism because racing drivers and pilots wear helmets.
The Razer headstrap looks bad for people with long hair imo. I tie my hair back when in VR; but it looks like that might not work with such a low ring pad thingy at the back
Game devs need more resources - there is just too many limitations with the current hardware from the GPU, RAM, and the CPU correctly in use. Increasing any of those numbers less battery life and thus more weight to improve that. People that want a cheap device are going to be limited to what cheap can afford them sadly.
There's tons of many amazing VR games now (both VR mods and native.) 1. "Praydog's" VR mods for the Resident Evil Franchise (2, 3, 7 and Village.) Outstanding, must play VR experiences all around. Just make sure to use the "smooth locomotion" mods for 2 and 3. RE 7 ON IT'S OWN makes VR worth it. 2. Half Life 2 VR mod. 3. Half Life: Alyx 4. Mother VR (Alien Isolation) 5. Subnautica. (The new 2.0 update that just released made the VR mode much better.) Probably the scariest game I've ever played and it's not even a "horror" game. 6. Contractors. Best VR multiplayer, for sure. 7. Every racing sim with VR support. (Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2, Automobilista 2, .etc) Seriously, sim racing is mind blowing in VR. Not to mention it was just announced pretty much EVERY game on the Unreal 4 engine will soon automatically work in VR.
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Apple has basically came out saying they have no focus on games, so any features you mentioned they added are likely designed for office/meetings, and I would temper expectations for anything more.
Glad someone else knows this
I don't get why Apple doesn't get into the gaming market. I know they've tried in the past but it's always been low-effort attempts.
@@theMedicatedCitizen You can get a Mac mini for $599 with an M2 chip capable of running current gen titles like Resident Evil Village. That's become an outdated argument.
M2 in a standalone headset is kinda nuts. Definitely will have some decent performance. However, on the programming side, Unity will probably work just fine on it but im afraid if apple is going to make some mandatory toolkit and libraries for development that would make it difficult to make multi platform games like you can for Quest, Pico and pcvr.
imagine if the apple headset uses airtags you put in your socks or something to track legs, that would be pretty funny
Isn't it all just ARM wouldn't that make it less difficult to port things?
@cheddar07 its not porting thats an issue its the SDK or Source Development Kit. For example i can develop for quest, pico and index using openxr because steamvr and the standalone headsets support it. However if i wanted to utilise the passtrhough capabilities of quest, i would have to add the quest sdk and that wouldnt work on the pico. This is a decent tradeoff as most of the codeis still cross platform and i just need to write another bit of code for pico passthrough.
However Apples headset will almost definitely run IOS or a flavour of it and this means that it will be significantly different architecture to quest. We dont know if theyre gonna support openxr and even if it does it will be a significant effort by them and if it doesnt, its a massive L to small and single developers.
If you use the pro controllers with quest two, you basically get perfect tracking.
...for almost the price of a whole new Quest 2
@@wittymchitty which together is still similar in price to or cheaper than pretty much any headset that uses lighthouse tracking.
@@michaelsondag6187 quest 3 period..I'll wait
@@wittymchitty yes, but for half the price of a full room setup
@@JaceEntertainment I plan to get quest 3 and I wouldn't be surprised if the pro controllers work with quest 3 as well.
Guys you don’t need a head strap with a battery, just take a 30 dollar portable battery and stick it in your pocket, string it through your shirt and bam 5-8 hours more of battery life. The kiwi elite only gives 2-3 extra hours so first purchase for a Quest should 100% be a battery pack.
I'm glad you're making these videos because I would have missed all of this! TYSM!!
I recently got a Reverb G2 while it was on sale and it completely blew me away and revived my love for VR. I hadn’t touched my quest in like 2 years and didn’t really enjoy using it because the resolution was so bad and it was insanely heavy and uncomfortable. But the G2 has way bigger FOV, crystal clear resolution, its light as a feather, and the audio system Is amazing. I will regularly use it for 4-5 hours and not even realize it, with the quest I could barely use it for an hour before my neck and face was in pain. It’s by far the best 300$ I’ve ever spent!
Quest 1 or 2?
@@GBHorizon i had both and i dont like either of them, i recently gave away my quest 1 to a friend and i sold my quest 2, they are way too heavy for me and overall just not good in my opinion. Low resolution , small FOV, insanely heavy, controllers are tiny and feel cheap, oculus link is buggy and a pain in the ass sometimes, i dont trust Meta ect...
Yeah the Reverb G2 is amazing. The resolution by itself blows most headsets out of the water. I've also been using the kinect for full body and for what it's worth, I freakin' love it.
omg about timeeeeeeeeeee, ive been waiting for this man, been checking every day for a CES video from you!
if the apple vr has a waist tethered battery that could mean there is some sort of hip/leg attachment which might be how they do leg tracking.
If anything, the razer headstrap looks reminiscent of the original Quest 1 headstrap. Which I really liked, so honestly surprised this is the first time anyone attempted anything similar
They have them on amazon
@@nouns7504 what do I search? I can't seem to find anything like it
does anyone know how much Razers headstraps would cost
Super small headsets are ones I can't wait for every headset to evolve into. Having to carry around a heavy, big headset is a bit of a pain, so having a light weight headset is amazing. Can't wait until they get to the size of glasses 👀
"The hallucinations 2"
cant wait to basically have a pane of glass thats 180 degrees in fov around my head rather than only 106 and janky tracking lol
I hope a company makes a facial interface for quest with cameras for eye and/or face tracking, so many people would buy that
Reverb g2 here. Not my favorite set up experience, especially when using space calibrations for lighthouse tracking needs, but it works great when it works ^^
I ended up only using it for my driving sims and the rest just stick to my index the resolution not worth messing with that janky software
@@Eskoxo freal -_- I'm looking forwards to micro-oleds and the like, especially if it is native steamvr (something like maganex when its more consumer price oriented). Lots to look forwards to sooomeday.
Used my Samsung Odyssey + until 2 days ago when i got the pico 4.
It still kicks ass with the best blacks ever.
The Bike Desk, hmm wasn't that a Black Mirror episode?
Literally what I was thinking!
I'm using the reverb g2 and I really like it. I wanted something that had great graphics so the index and quest was out of the picture, but I couldn't spend 2 k on it either so I found a decent middle ground for about $350 ish.
Now the only thing I don't like about the reverb g2 is the hand tracking. The hands will regularly loose tracking out of nowhere but all I need to do is shake it for a second and the tracking comes back.
In the end I decided to go with the index knuckles because I wanted the finger tracking so that added an extra $600 making my total at about $1100. Still cheaper than most high end headset at the time ($1,500+)
1:1 what i did. but i have the problem, that my index knuckles aren't tracking correctly. so i must most of the time recalibrate it and its annoying and because of this reason, i dont spend much time in vr.
still waiting for the deckard
have a nice day!
(sorry about my english)
@@makoto3471 what I ended up doing is separating the hardware so only my knuckles, lighthouses, and headset show up on steam VR. Not using the windows VR system but only using steam VR system. Should help with the knuckle tracking
For the battery you can add a little battery sized portal charger that just leeches on the side. Mine cost $13 on Amazon with 2 day shipping
I hope your doing great your videos are the light of my day when they go on my recomendation just wanted to say thank you.
I used an Acer WMR headset for two years until finally getting a quest2 last month
In the beginning I only wanted VR for sim racing, for which the wmr platform is quite decent; but after getting interested in HL:A and VRC and whatnot, the general lack of polish and optimisation of the WMR ecosystem was very noticeable, and a huge quality of life upgrade when I switched to the quest2
Waist strap battery? Sounds like a pain to put on every time you want to use the headset...
I have to agree. I don't understand how apple could go with something like that, I thought they were all about minimalism?
That razer strap looks like a solid choice, wish it had a battery but i guess ill solve that myself like i did with the default strap.
I was at CES... it was bonkers!... I've been going every year for the past 20 years...lol... I tried the MeganeX and they were nice... but the nose piece was uncomfortable, and the sides leaked light (but both problems could be rectified by installing the eyecups, which were off because it's a prototype)... the Pimax Crystal was pretty stunning... and the Magic Leap AR device was pretty nice... I saw the XTal but I didn't get to try it...
should i wait for quest 3?
Very excited for shiftall's vr tech. Very much geared towards vrchat users/entertainers (dancers with their fbt, and now musicians/djs with their new vr controllers)
@QuietlyLoud lol that's how I first read it too lmao
There's really no point in having a refresh rate higher than 90hz on a standalone. I'd rather the extra power be spent on better visuals. Like i think it's absolutely dumb to have the Quest home environment run at high FPS with its crappy resolution.
I have the quest 2 and pro, but my first was a a WMR headset, the Dell Visor. It is super comfortable, but outside of seated VR, I won't go back to a tethered experience. That said, fresnel lenses and it's resolution are noticably lower than my Pro, so, I'm spoiled now, but TBH, it's still amazing.
FYI Razer made the first customer attainable real 6dof headset before the rift, the OSVR HDK2.
I remember watching a video on this
Even in the promotional videos the desk on the bike wobbles crazy.
Thanks for these news updates!
mysticle you brighten my day every time you come up with a new video! ty!!
I'm guessing leg tracking from apple vr will be accomplished by tracking cameras on the waist belt.
finally, a headstrap that considers people with flat heads!
I can't use the ones with the joint in the temple area, which is most of the third party ones 😥
i feel like the base head strap is just hated by people who dont know how to properly fit it. I have had no issues with the base head strap and have scenarios where its been better than the after markets that ive used. aside from no battery, its honestly not even bad
I think "external display" was a bit misunderstood. This does not mean external display support, but the front itself is a display where you can display probably some kind of eyes replacemeant I would guess.
Apple's battery is waist thetered. So maybe they are using some kind of harness that also has sensors for leg tracking.
My quest 2 is lagging recently. storage isn't full and I rarely use it. Any ideas?
I use wmr headset I got it for christmas because of the 300 dollars off sale (hp reverb g2) People make it seem like its tracking sucks (it doesn't) but still a BIG upgrade from my old vr (psvr)
That's cap you're 100% a fake
I know that you can use quest pro controllers on quest 2 but there should be base stations for extra.
The razer headstrap design looks a lot like the rift cv1 headstrap as far as the mechanism for tightening it
7:26 lol.. i heard that bud. got me fresh coffee brewing atm too :)
From a quest user and razer fan, im soon to pre order a psvr2 to upgrade. Im really hoping razer makes some cool stuff for the quest killer
I have HP Reverb G2. Got it for little over 1 year and well exept from tracking of controlers and cable (I am on my third) it is good. It has same speaker as Vive and mic is good and the resulotion is super. The most problem, exept cable, I have had was the binding in VRC for the controlers.
My solution for the whole battery thing not just for the quest 2 or razer headstrap but what I do is run a charger down my back into my pocket under my shirt or hoodie and the cheap 10 dollar battery keeps my headset charged mid game for well over 4 hours and then when the battery in my pocket dies my headset will be at no less than 98 percent and I charge the battery while playing and by the time my quest battery hits 30 percent my battery is charged giving me a extra 3-5 hours
I think people buy used WMR headsets, they go dirt cheap. Its the cheapest way to get into VR and there are tons of them out there.
You can get a headsets for under 100$. And the Samsung Odyssey has quite nice OLED screens, so if you can get that for 100$ or less, its quite nice.
What are you losing though is the real question
Also I don't know if I'd want something used that been on someone's face and collected their sweat all over it
I dont know that 300 dollar reverb sale got me to upgrade from my og vive
@@thedoomslayer5863 I dont buy anything new, thats just stupid. This weird consumer fetish people have for new stuff.
@@wraithdino1217 Majority of people don't have 300, if you look at steam charts.. what is the most common GPU? Majority of this globe are poor. Used WMR headsets is an opportunity to try out VR without basically any cost. As you can sell of off at the same price you bought it.
I use the Quest most of the time in bed. Playing Xbox Game Pass with a controller lying down makes up for not using a mouse and a keyboard
Kind of fun to see the quest pro, vive a bit cheaper, then psvr around the corner with similar specs but way lower price. (but proboly ps exlusive).
well no battery&standalone. but then you compare it to Q2 having it all at 400 remove all exept cpu&battery.Si 600-900 is my assumed price point for 2,5 specs now (eye tracking).
7:57 High Resolution Passthrough refers OBVIOUSLY to the passthrough cameras (the cameras that allows you to see the "real world") and High Resolution means that this cameras will not be garbage like the quest 2
Yeah but different people might have a different opinion of what "High resolution" means.
My friends g2 cable broke after 7 months. You cant get those cables for another 2-4 months.... out of stock.
Just picked up my first VR headset. Guess which? HP Reverb G2. Used for $248!
5:00 while the Vive XR lacks eye tracking out of the box, the module will probably be MUCH easier to set up on Social PCVR than Meta's offerings. Everyone i know that's tried to setup a Quest Pro face tracking on PC has only been met with walls.
Same for the hand tracking. Vive XR ~might~ even have native hand tracking forwarding into Steam VR, which will be good for PCVR Social games like VRC/Neos/CVR
Might* well better to just wait for reviews but honestly at that price should already have eye tracking.
i very much doubt the Vive XR would have native handtracking forwarding to SteamVR, as the Vive Focus 3, which has the same capability and iirc uses the exact same streaming software, can't do it
You didnt mention new Vr Headset as well called "Somnium Vr1" at CES 2880x2880 Resolution
I think Apple will be using the waist mounted battery to track legs.
Regarding the bike desk - could you use it to charge an electric bike? If so, you literally have a bike-powered bicycle.
I like the look of that Megane X.
Hey are you able to run the quest default lying down as opposed to sitting up straight. ie watching RUclips lying down
Yes
so many awesome headsets coming out.. I'm just going to cruise on my quest 2 for a few more years. Can't wait to slap a 120+ fov headset on in 2025
The HP Reverb G2 is the best you can get for Simulation Gameplay
I would not be surprised if most of the wmr headsets are gen 1 because I've seen them on sale as low as £80. It's a ridiculously cheap way of getting into PCVR
Love your take on Apple being good for the VR space. Great vid as always. ✌
i was about to get Hp Reverb but it was out of stock in my country so i got quest 2 instead
10:29 did they use a micro usb phone for the demonstration? 😭
I've got the orginal HP WMR head set for my PC, it's still pretty goood. I also have a Quest 2 and admitadly use it more. I started off with a PSVR, which i still have and still use for certain games
I wish I could buy the Reverb controllers seperatly for my head set
@@rudechef1 HP does sell them separately.
My Bike Desk came from SportCheck. It was about $200. I use it to bike while I work. :)
My Gazelle is great for playing Demeo every morning. Rest in pieces, elliptical…
As far as comfort goes, PSVR has my vote. And with PSVR 2 coming next month, I'll be back in virtual reality soaking in all that glory. Man, I love VR 😁
Where is the rgb?
I don't buy many Apple products either and my Oculus rift cable is damaged... It really bothers me that meta stop supporting their product. I need a new VR headset I don't know if I should wait for the quest 3 or what I should do. I don't mind being tethered to my PC.
6:28 ok now THAT might be what I got with over a quest pro or quest 3. I really generally dont want the quest pro, its expensive for what it is and seems uncomfortable for long play sessions. But that, well, its just glasses, cant get more comfortable than that. And a PC only headset with inside out tracking, just what ive been waiting for. I hope by the time it comes out they find a way to connect quest pro controllers directly to the PC so I dont have to worry about tracking issues.
im not gonna lie i was in google looking at vr news i saw razer head strap and like after 10 mins later a notification came from you about the razer headstrap right now...
Hey Mysticle, you say the XR Elite doesn't have eye tracking.
You mean by default then right? Because I'm 90% certain that it'll have its own eye-tracking module.
Oh yeah I meant by default 🙂
My guess is leg tracking will be done using an iPhone with LIDAR
a v49 leak has mentioned "laying down mode" something to note for the future.
The Vive XR Elite Controller are just Quest 1 controllers with a vive logo lol
Did anyone get the death message for the quest 1? No more joining parties, no more features, and bugfixes only until 2024... Still waiting for the quest 3 to upgrade so this is not good news
Need that Quest 3 to come out already!
That vive with the eye tracker module attached looks like steampunk squidward.
one the reasons i hate the quest pro is that it is extremely difficult to use on a couch or laying down because the back of it is just too bulky.
For 3k they’re probably gonna have leg trackers I doubt their gonna have it done with cameras
I have no interest in the apple headset, but I'm excited for the attention it will bring to VR. Really hope they find some success in it
so razar decided to make a quest 1 strap for the quest 2.
Is the vive xr elite meant for gaming or business? I've been watching videos on it and none of them say. Either that or i'm stupid. I don't wanna spend the money on a VR that isn't meant for gaming, because I know that's the only reason I get these headsets. I have enough for the vive xr so does anyone know?
So, 1100 for the XR Elite is better than 1500 lol sure but I'm still leaning it's overpriced and not worth it. That said, I also think the quest pro is SEVERELY overpriced and not worth 1500 so .... but the specs of it just don't wow me. Resolution 1920 x 1920? that's it??? and 90htz??? The FOV is interesting at 110 but then again, the Pico 4 has higher resolution at 2160 x 2160 and while the Pico 4's FOV is only 105 ish with the stock facecover, I think we can get that higher with some of these third party ones coming out (which I'm currently waiting on 2 to arrive) and the Pico 4 is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper so I'm really struggling to see how the XR Elite is worth 1100. Maybe 800. I guess if your trying to claim to compete with one overpriced headset with mediocre specs than ..... LMAO :)
Pico 4's tethered performance is meh though and it also doesn't work with many modded VR games like Resident Evil Village.
Have not watched yet. Asking a pre question. Razer, as in the one with the snakes for the logo or no?
IT IS THE RAZER IM THINKING OF. I have two different versions of the kraken headphones, one wired, one wireless :)
Well I’m an Apple user but 3000$ is just too much in any circumstance, I guess its meant for companies rather than consumers but still…
As an apple consumer you should already know to wait till the second generation of apple technology
@@nouns7504 yeah I usually just buy used, last year was the first time in a decade that I bought a new iPhone… but still you can get a MacBook pro and a quest pro / vive XR for 3000€. Just seems like a crazy price to me…
Honestly, I used to be excited for Apple's headset, but after learning more about it, it really doesn't seem interesting at all, and I feel like when it releases, nothing will change.
Apple's headset definitely will not have Micro OLED display. Samsung only makes that for their The Wall tv and they can't make it below 77 inch tv right now. Micro OLED is still years away from mass production. I could maybe see it having QD-OLED though. I wouldn't put much faith into this report on the Apple headset becuase of the obvious impossibility of it using Micro OLED, a tv tech that hasn't been mass produced yet.
Razer should bring this year ago but now its almost time for Quest 3 so im skiping it. Hopefully theu bring it for Quest 3 version
WHY DON'T THEY ACHIEVE LEG TRACKING BY USING MIRRORS?
I just want more $100 headsets like the lenovo explorer. they've stopped being sold and i dont trust ebay
I remember the explorer. It was super cool
@@DiamondDepthYT lucky
Too much hardware with not enough good software. I feel that software needs to catch up. I hope beatsaber coming to psvr2 brings some good will with psvr2 games coming to PC via meta or hopefully the wider PC VR platform
Not true at all. There are many amazing VR games now (both VR mods and native.)
1. Resident Evil Franchise (2, 3, 7 and Village.) Outstanding, must play VR experiences all around. Just make sure to use the "smooth locomotion" mods for 2 and 3.
2. Half Life 2 VR mod.
3. Half Life: Alyx
4. Mother VR (Alien Isolation)
5. Subnautica. (The new 2.0 update that just released made the VR mode much better.)
6. Contractors
7. Every racing sim with VR support.
@@Skrenja most you named are community mods. I am aware of all on flat 2 VR modding discord and Luke Ross but official actual VR games is still light . Alyx is amazing yes but there are more new headsets than actual good official VR games you named.
i started with the hp windows mixed reality vr headset. the one looked like robo cop. lol. it was great. then i got rift s then one week later i got quest 2. had that ever sence
But what about battery?
Nvm 😅
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If they want to make a more comfortable vr headset, why not just use a full helmet design? Not only will this produce much better weight distribution, it will also mean the display doesn't have to touch any part of the face. Also for driving and pilot sim players it will add to the realism because racing drivers and pilots wear helmets.
WE NEED DISHONORED VR
Yes
I had a lenovo explorer for about a year before it died. best $250 i ever spent
Dont have and don't want Facebook, so cant have quest. Why don't you ever advertise this needed link?
The Razer headstrap looks bad for people with long hair imo. I tie my hair back when in VR; but it looks like that might not work with such a low ring pad thingy at the back
Yeah yeah laying down and watching some movies right. Lol 😏
2.5h charging, isn't that the same as using a cable? xD
it looks SOOO comfy
I wont spent anymore money on things for vr until they give us more games and games that are well optimised
Game devs need more resources - there is just too many limitations with the current hardware from the GPU, RAM, and the CPU correctly in use. Increasing any of those numbers less battery life and thus more weight to improve that. People that want a cheap device are going to be limited to what cheap can afford them sadly.
@@adr2t I know all of this. I'm talking more about the pc vr
There's tons of many amazing VR games now (both VR mods and native.)
1. "Praydog's" VR mods for the Resident Evil Franchise (2, 3, 7 and Village.) Outstanding, must play VR experiences all around. Just make sure to use the "smooth locomotion" mods for 2 and 3. RE 7 ON IT'S OWN makes VR worth it.
2. Half Life 2 VR mod.
3. Half Life: Alyx
4. Mother VR (Alien Isolation)
5. Subnautica. (The new 2.0 update that just released made the VR mode much better.) Probably the scariest game I've ever played and it's not even a "horror" game.
6. Contractors. Best VR multiplayer, for sure.
7. Every racing sim with VR support. (Assetto Corsa, Project Cars 2, Automobilista 2, .etc) Seriously, sim racing is mind blowing in VR.
Not to mention it was just announced pretty much EVERY game on the Unreal 4 engine will soon automatically work in VR.