I haven't seen anyone saying railways being trash or anti armor and crit being worthless. All I heard is that railways got big nerfs compared to the live version because of the much lower firerate, higher AP cost and reload penalty on Quad, which are all true. The removal of damage reduction on raid bosses came with a big increase in damage resistance and hitpoints, so having any kind of armor penetration is now even more important. Crits are still important, although no longer more important than other damage boosts.
@@TheBuildMiner210thé point here is that it is no longer the best rifle. An Anti armour 25 15r elders mark will be the king hands down now, next to the EPF and I believe even a fixers 3rd best and the railway is 4th. Quad is no longer viable for dps. Before the patch a quad elders mark would be head of anti armour, now AA is the best.
The same rolls on live are still great on the railway in pts. Q50c still hits hard but if the fire rate is something you're not liking you can always use Faster fire rate which does a little less than the 50c but feels relatively close to the live server rails. Faster reload with lvl 2 ground pounder is great if you don't like the slow reload of a quad or you can go with any of the other rolls like 25lvc 15vcf reduced weight etc if want to use lvl 3 ground pounder
@@trentenfolland3982 Yeah anti armor is going to feel really nice with these changes. I really want to try other FFR weapons but unfortunately my PTS character isn't as geared as I'd like 😢
@@nickkehhtv same Ive been doing tons of math for the best ttk weapons and rn on the main server a holy fire can kill in around 14s but I can’t prove that without more gear :( new legendary system should make it easier but with triple the HP it’ll be closer to a 46-50s which is fine I don’t need to nuke him but it would la been cool
@@trentenfolland3982 damn that’s awesome 💪 I need to get my hands on a good holy fire, godd Howard and RNG have been against me and can’t hit a proper roll in live servers. I want to see how the heavy guns are going to fair in PTS. Rn my go to bossing heavies are an AA 50c GP and AA 50c Cremator. Unfortunately those are on my Xbox account
@@trentenfolland3982 honestly from a single shot damage aspect you arent wrong, but vamp explosive oh boy, gonna have a hard time getting me to get rid of this one
Uny armour is great at stealth because it gets your agility up and that lowers your detection radius, But when you are spotted you have no way other than escape artist to break there line of sight. Chameleons and escape artist is better in stealth than a full set of UnY. Angry turtle made a great video comparing it in detail to show exactly why chameleons is better stealth. Escape artist breaks line of sight and makes you very very invisible you need chameleons to keep the invisibility to keep the Line of soft broken or your just gonna gets spotted again or have to run far away to re stealth
@@games8ful live servers I haven’t had much problems but PTS it’s been a little rough with and without silenced weapons. If anything sneak can be finicky since light, agility and distance play a roll in holding sneak.
@@MrHathaway1337 It’s a bugged out suit! The spectacular outfit I think it may be called spectacular showman’s outfit? But the hat and body are bugged out 💪
@@nickkehhtv Does it always look like that? (Edit: I tried the spectacular performer's outfit and it did not cause this effect so it must be something different.)
The railway is still a working weapon but the fire rate nerf and quad nerf does not make it "op" sadly it pushes it from the best down to the 4th or lower with a much slower time to kill compared to an elders mark or EPF
Im sad because I had done a bunch of math for the best ttk and the holy fire should have been able to kill him perfectly in one mag (14s kill) faster than the railway and any kill that has been done on him(at the time there were ways to kill him faster in the past but those are patched, we’re talking legit world record time kill. But I won’t have time to make the build and test it)
no bro its a dead gun. even with my god roll q 25 25 railway its still not doing what it use to. i hate to admit it but its a dead gun. Time to move on.
@@Mr.House_ it’s still a solid weapon, but it’ll definitely open up a lot of interest to other weapons which will be great! Me personally I’ll probably be leaning more towards heavy guns 💪
I haven't seen anyone saying railways being trash or anti armor and crit being worthless. All I heard is that railways got big nerfs compared to the live version because of the much lower firerate, higher AP cost and reload penalty on Quad, which are all true. The removal of damage reduction on raid bosses came with a big increase in damage resistance and hitpoints, so having any kind of armor penetration is now even more important. Crits are still important, although no longer more important than other damage boosts.
I have been hearing people say the railway is unusable and nerfed into the ground etc. and its so annoying its still fucked up strong
@@TheBuildMiner210thé point here is that it is no longer the best rifle. An Anti armour 25 15r elders mark will be the king hands down now, next to the EPF and I believe even a fixers 3rd best and the railway is 4th. Quad is no longer viable for dps. Before the patch a quad elders mark would be head of anti armour, now AA is the best.
Don't tell people the weapons are still fine, I am enjoying the "the sky is falling" posts I'm seeing people do.
Damn... I didn't think of it this way. That's my fault D:
what would be the best roll for railway in the incoming update?
The same rolls on live are still great on the railway in pts. Q50c still hits hard but if the fire rate is something you're not liking you can always use Faster fire rate which does a little less than the 50c but feels relatively close to the live server rails. Faster reload with lvl 2 ground pounder is great if you don't like the slow reload of a quad or you can go with any of the other rolls like 25lvc 15vcf reduced weight etc if want to use lvl 3 ground pounder
AA2515r Will be the best boss killing roll on ANY weapon now.
@@trentenfolland3982 Yeah anti armor is going to feel really nice with these changes. I really want to try other FFR weapons but unfortunately my PTS character isn't as geared as I'd like 😢
@@nickkehhtv same Ive been doing tons of math for the best ttk weapons and rn on the main server a holy fire can kill in around 14s but I can’t prove that without more gear :( new legendary system should make it easier but with triple the HP it’ll be closer to a 46-50s which is fine I don’t need to nuke him but it would la been cool
@@trentenfolland3982 damn that’s awesome 💪 I need to get my hands on a good holy fire, godd Howard and RNG have been against me and can’t hit a proper roll in live servers. I want to see how the heavy guns are going to fair in PTS. Rn my go to bossing heavies are an AA 50c GP and AA 50c Cremator. Unfortunately those are on my Xbox account
I think the only major change for me is swapping from Q5025 to Q2525 as the fire rate now seems more important than the +50% crit.
Faster Fire Rate feels good on it and the damage difference between crit isn't too bad so it's good for all playstyles.
Quad railway is not worth it compared to AA
@@trentenfolland3982 honestly from a single shot damage aspect you arent wrong, but vamp explosive oh boy, gonna have a hard time getting me to get rid of this one
Uny armour is great at stealth because it gets your agility up and that lowers your detection radius, But when you are spotted you have no way other than escape artist to break there line of sight. Chameleons and escape artist is better in stealth than a full set of UnY. Angry turtle made a great video comparing it in detail to show exactly why chameleons is better stealth. Escape artist breaks line of sight and makes you very very invisible you need chameleons to keep the invisibility to keep the Line of soft broken or your just gonna gets spotted again or have to run far away to re stealth
How have you got an invisible body ?
@@lpeacefull8247 it’s a bugged outfit the spectacular something outfit i can’t remember the full name but the hat and suit are buggy :)
@@nickkehhtv pts only ?
@@lpeacefull8247 yes pts only, I hope it doesn't get fixed because its very fashionable I think :P
@@nickkehhtv yeah I would love this in the main game 😂 would be so fun to mess around with
is stealth fixed in pts beacuse i get defected quite fast in live servers
@@games8ful live servers I haven’t had much problems but PTS it’s been a little rough with and without silenced weapons. If anything sneak can be finicky since light, agility and distance play a roll in holding sneak.
Good stuff! Hopefully everyone will chill out now lol
They will. This nerf has nothing on the great legacy nerf. The same people were probably saying they were going to quit playing back then.
People be pissed off cause I kill off three stars like grated cheese within seconds with the railway and they kick me off groups
Not me on a plane watching Nick 😂
Safe travels my friend!
What happened to your character in the intro? Some Todd Howard magic?
@@MrHathaway1337 It’s a bugged out suit! The spectacular outfit I think it may be called spectacular showman’s outfit? But the hat and body are bugged out 💪
@@nickkehhtv It just works.
@@MrHathaway1337 in the best and most fashionable way haha
@@nickkehhtv Does it always look like that?
(Edit: I tried the spectacular performer's outfit and it did not cause this effect so it must be something different.)
@@Ryu_R. If you're using it in the live it wont work unfortunately, this is all on the pts
good video but... what are you wearing? :D
I think its called the spectacular Showmans outfit :D
The railway is still a working weapon but the fire rate nerf and quad nerf does not make it "op" sadly it pushes it from the best down to the 4th or lower with a much slower time to kill compared to an elders mark or EPF
Your crits didn’t crit every other shot because you were not in a team and had less than 33 luck due to herd mentality
yeahh I noticed too late like a dingus hahaha
Of course is good. People love to be dramatic without real reason.
Look reload at reload how reload much reload damage reload I'm reload doing reload with reload anti reload armour....reload.
@@benanantavara4272 oh no did I really say reload a bunch I didn’t even realize lmao 🤣
Ppl will still be mad at railway cause looking at this they can’t kill earl in few seconds anymore.😂
Im sad because I had done a bunch of math for the best ttk and the holy fire should have been able to kill him perfectly in one mag (14s kill) faster than the railway and any kill that has been done on him(at the time there were ways to kill him faster in the past but those are patched, we’re talking legit world record time kill. But I won’t have time to make the build and test it)
It is trash on pts still "op"😅
no bro its a dead gun. even with my god roll q 25 25 railway its still not doing what it use to. i hate to admit it but its a dead gun. Time to move on.
@@Mr.House_ it’s still a solid weapon, but it’ll definitely open up a lot of interest to other weapons which will be great! Me personally I’ll probably be leaning more towards heavy guns 💪
lol dead in the fact thats its nolonger so OP lol get a grip