Can every bass note go with every melody note in 31 TET?
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- We invited 31 notes, squeezed them all into one octave and just observed what would happen... Will they get along or will they clash in unbearable dissonance? You be the judge!
This is a very special episode to us and we are so happy to finally share it with you!
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A huge thank you to the amazing HOOU Team - especially Goran Lazarevic, Tam Thi Pham and Diego Muhr - for enabling us to make this content for you!
And warm hugs to our fun friends who will always be connected to "their" note in our minds and hearts 🙂
Special thanks go out to the one and only Mike Battaglia - without your music this dinner party would have been lacking atmosphere & style!
Check out his 31-TET arrangement of "Sweet Lorraine" on his channel @MikeBattagliaMusic
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00:00 Intro
00:23 Title Sequence
00:36 so many options
01:09 Enter: The Root note!
01:46 The Diatonic Gang & The Mean Tones
01:57 How To Save The Party?
02:23 1. If if works in 12, it works in 31?
02:42 Confusing #9 and b3
03:03 Overtonal Relationships
03:22 Aim For Strong Structures
03:45 CAN every bass note go with every melody note in 31 TET?
03:54 Diatonic
04:03 Root Note - Octave
04:10 Maj2 - C sus2
04:17 Maj3 - C major
04:24 P4 - C quartal
04:30 P5 - C Major
04:38 Maj6 - F maj / C
04:46 Maj7 - C maj7
04:52 Chromatic
05:01 #8 - Cdb7 #8
05:10 b9 - C7 susb9
05:19 #9 - Cdb7 #9
05:27 b3 - C min
05:36 #11 - C maj7 #11
05:48 b5 - C dim
05:57 #5 - C aug
06:06 b6 - F min
06:15 b7 - C min7 - C quartal
06:26 Over- & Undertonal
06:44 db7 - Cdb7
06:51 +11 - Cdb7 +11
07:01 d13 - Cdb7 +11 d13
07:11 +9 - C min +9 - D+dim / Cmaj
07:29 d5 - C min +9 d5 - Ad quartal / Cdb7 +11
07:42 Notes in Need of Stabilization
07:53 +8 or +15 - Cdb7 +11 +15
08:03 d9 - Cdb7 d9 - Ddmaj / Cdb7
08:14 d3 - Cdb7 +11 d13 d3
08:21 +3 - C dim bb7 b11 - A+maj / Cdim
08:34 d4 or d11 - C db7susd4?!
08:41 +5 - A+ quartal / Cdim
08:48 +6 or +13 - Cdim7 (in 31-EDO: bb7 = +6) - Cdb7+11 +13
09:01 d7 - I’m out… You come up with a chord name…
09:08 +7 - F dim / C
09:17 d8 - F+ dim / Cdb7
09:24 Outro
09:34 Group Picture: 31 Note-Clusterflarp
10:05 Credits 
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Thanks for all the support
Great way of presenting this. I picked up my guitar and started listening to each interval separately. I already understood but this video made me pick up my guitar and purposefully listen. It's the whole point of an instructional video and it worked. Well done.
really guys serving drinks to minors cmon
I commend the immense amount of effort that went into this
Thank you very much! Could you Re-commend it to others? ;)
@@HearBetweenTheLines I see what you did there :)
I would but none of my friends care about microtones lol
@@eboonei feel that
the fact that we both got this in our algorithms xD
-Ashton Creech
This is THE highest quality production I’ve ever seen put into a video about actual microtonal theory, and perhaps even harmonic theory in general. THIS CHANNEL NEEDS A MILLION MORE SUBSCRIBERS
Your comment made my day, thanks so much
@@HearBetweenTheLines
It’s true, dudes! Keep it up!
one more today
wohoooo!
I love the metaphor of harmonies in-between bottom notes and top notes being like people that cause the personalities to mesh in an overall setting.
Does anyone else hear that the piano music in the background slowly grow more and more microtonal/alternate-tuning as the “party” continues? (ie: from traditional 12-tone to equal temperament, etc)
You have exceptionally great ears, my friend! That's exactly the reason we chose the track! Check out @MikeBattagliaMusic 's Channel, he is a xenharmonic mastermind!
That's what usually happens when you drink more and more. Nothing mysterious
Google ‘Mike battaglia sweet lorraine’
Oooh i noticed it was microtonal but I didn’t notice that! So cool
This is probably the most creative video you've made so far. It was a great analogy, and you really got 31 different people to act all of this out. Plus hearing Mike Battaglia's Sweet Lorraine as the background music was a nice surprise, given that it's one of my favorite 31-EDO covers out there. I'm looking forward to what you have in the future!
Thanks so much!
Yeah, we were amazed by how our friends just trusted us with all of this haha, it was so much fun to record :D And yeah, @MikeBattagliaMusic is the real thing! Love his music so much!
I love thinking about the planning and the spreadsheets you guys must have had to make sure to film every combination of people and to make sure they act in the correct mood lmao
Thanks for getting the amount of effort that went into this haha :D
Holy moley the production value! the opening graphics at 0:30 👌👌👌👌👌
Glad you like it!! Yeah... 2 days of work right there, I'm NOT a motion graphic designer/animator hahaha
You quickly realise how much work goes into stuff like that when you have to do it yourself... I love it, because you appreciate the works of others so much more
I have to agree. You guys are genuinely multitalented, not only having mastered microtonal music, but also possessing the ability to create one hell of a spectacular audiovisual production.
Thank you so much, it's so humbling to read comments like these....
The thing I love most about the xenharmonic community on RUclips is that everybody knows each other
oh Hiiiii!
I know, right? It's great!
This touches multiple things at once, a video called “Chords as Emojis”, my overall OBSESSION of microtonal music that you have helped me build, and just the very creativeness you have made. You deserve every bit of my pleasure in watching this video.
This is probably the best ever music theory video i've ever seen in my life
Wow, thanks so much for that! Glad you liked it :D
Wow, this is amazing! Blows my mind where you went with this one in terms of production value, attention to detail, educational inventiveness…. Hats off, coming from a musical philistine who enjoyed every minute of it 😉👏🏽
Wow, thanks Ben, what a wonderful comment!
Wonderful. Great performance by all of the notes, especially Root. I appreciated their high fives with the folks they didn't get along with alone.
This is insane! I absolutely love how each person is their own note and has their own unique “personality”. It’s incredible how much effort went into this. You guys deserve way more subs! :)
Thank you so much!! Indeed, the effort was quite gargantuan, but it's so nice to see that people are enjoying it :D
@@HearBetweenTheLines Hahah I definitely enjoyed this, and I subscribed!
This is AMAZING. I have no words, this is a content about microtonality that manages to be fun, brilliant and instructive. I can barely imagine how much effort you put into this. Also, mike battaglia's sweet lorraine in the background fits perfectly, bringing more and more xenharmonic elements as the video goes on.
Proud to be like n° 1000!
Wow, thank you! I'm flustered by the response to be honest, it's beautiful to see the work pay off and, even more so, making all these people happy with the content db
this is absolutely going to blow up! such an incredible amount of effort!!
Thanks so much, Jade!! Really happy you like it! db
I'm speechless on the video quality. Congrats on the growth! You guys deserve it. If anyone reading this comment likes cool chords in 31, I recommend checking out my "What a Wonderful World" a cappella cover, entirely within 31-TET.
Let's name the d7 chord at 09:01. Since you have a chromatic cluster, you could maybe push the extensions a little farther, like Chris Bandy and Jacob Collier calling things a sharp-15, etc. How about C(db7) +11 d13 d14? That's what I did when labeling this chord in Wonderful World. Maybe some kind of label for "otonal chord" would be helpful for a harmonic series chord up to a certain point (my guess would be d13). So then you could say like "C otonal add d7" lol.
It warms my heart that you guys have a chord with a chromatic cluster 🥲
That's a great idea, naming chords with a shorthand for otonal.
When we write down ideas manually, we do it with
! for otonal and
i for utonal
(dot = the note; line = harmonic series above/below)
and then add the highest limit we use in it. So C!d13 for a 13-limit otonal chord, but a C!+11 for 11-limit and similarly for utonal chords. Doesn't work in Dorico though... -.-
@@HearBetweenTheLines why couldn’t you use exclamation points when engraving microtonal chords?
@@stephenweigel Cause i and ! don't look the same but flipped in chord symbols, or do they? If they do let's entertain the Xenharmonic Alliance with that :D
@@HearBetweenTheLines I don't know of anyone using exclamation points in microtonal chords. The only association that comes to mind is that copied scala files often use them
I know this is really old, but if the font supports it, U+00A1 INVERTED EXCLEMATION MARK (¡) is the glyph you are looking for. The aesthetics of it are somewhat different, resting below the baseline, but it should at least look better than a lowercase ‘i’ in serif fonts,
I just listened to "Time to Call My Friend". What an astounding use of microtonality. Thanks so much for the music.
Thank you so much, Tony! What a lovely comment!
That's a really good one. Top two diesis moments of mine are when Lumatone anticipates A shat major over B flarp, and Clara's penultimate high note being a B flarp over a B otonal chord
10:01 the fight you get into is top tier comedy
hahaha, we had to film it multiple times because we cracked up every take :D
Absolutely adore the music sync at 3:47 , y'all are hilarious
Good catch! Hahaha, yeah, that made me so happy when I realised that it ligned up almost perfectly, just had to cut a few frames here and there to make it work :D
Incredible. Amazing. Every music student needs to see this.
This was a visual, creative and story telling masterpiece. Im also jealous to see so many musically minded and intelligent individuals in one room together. This is the party i want to be at and have missed. There is harmony in absolutely anything . As white noise is the full spectrum, we pick a few notes to harmonise inside it, but truly there are infinite possible combinations and sequences and resonances to find
What a wonderful, humbling comment, so glad you enjoyed it so much! db
@@HearBetweenTheLines 🙏🙏🙏 full power to you guys. Can't wait for more.
This not only explains harmony really REALLY well, it explains relationship dynamics in a very clear way. 10/10
i love your guys channel. the way you use analogies like this to explain complex microtonal theory is amazing
I love comments like yours. The way you use precisely the right words to make me feel better about my work is amazing.
holy moly, this was so cool and such a fun representation. And not to mention the quality made me think this channel had 50x the amount of subscribers it does. Great work
Wow, thanks for your lovely comment! Glad to have you on board :)
I love that Mike Battaglia is DJing this party.
Absolutely, couldn't have done this without his tunes
wow, you guys have really upped your production value, jesus christ! lol, wonderful stuff
Wow, so much effort!! You deserve WAYYYY more views on your videos, simply amazing. The editing, the writing and of course the music material. One of the greatest music videos I've seen
Wow, thanks Yuval, what a humbling comment :O
Wow! This must have taken you a thousand hours to make! Great ideas about how to build chord voicings in 31-EDO. The idea about how certain intervals only sound good with various "stabilizers" added is great stuff. I think everyone should study this video pretty intently - looking forward to the next one!!
Wow, what high praise from the xenharmonic heavens! db!!
I mean, we do have similar in 12TET, at least until you've emancipated all your dissonances :P. A minor second (or major 7th), for example, is much nicer as part of a major 7th chord (i.e. with the 3rd and 5th in there as "stabilisers").
31TET just has a lot more of it, I guess.
@@klop4228 Sure, that's exactly why that works, I guess :)
This is insane, did not expect to EVER see a speakeasy art deco microtonal theory demonstration???
Love this video. How much love and effort went into the details! Even all the little side stories are so on point. Can't stop watching it over and over and find more hidden clues hahaha
This is one of the best made videos I’ve seen on micro tonal theory. Thanks for making this.
Thanks so much, Anthony! Doing our best :)
1:34 Oh my god. This is the best line ever.
Yesss, I’ve been waiting to see this release!! So happy to finally see it 😊
Glad you like it! Share it around, I'd love for as many people as possible to see this :D
this felt like watching a tv show in a language you're learning but don't really understand everything, only by context
Great that you watched it regardless*!
I feel like this osmotic/immersive way of learning is the best, especially if the thing you immerse yourself in is fun to be around :)
Anyway, thanks for your comment!
Such a great demonstration. Thanks for making this!
You're very welcome! Glad you liked it :)
This is the most brilliant representation of music theory I have ever seen.
This is great❤ I love it! So much information yet so much fun and entertaining!
So glad you like it, Jan!
It's amazing! Great work!
Thank you! Cheers!
This is phenomenal! Thank you so much for making this amazing video... and for putting it up for free!
Our pleasure, super glad you enjoyed it! We believe in free education :) If you want to support us, though, (and nerd out with us) you can become part of our Patreon-family! www.patreon.com/hearbetweenthelines/
such a madness!
thank you very much for your video
even though i have never experienced other TET systems but yet this was fascinating!
you all guys are like a real family not only musicaly :D
Soo great! I loved seeing it! ❤🎉
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. You've inspired me to explore 31 TET and microtonal music in general more.
Glad to hear it! That's exactly why we're doing it :)
I love how you depicted note relations as relations between people! It's so creative and informative! best microtonal channel so far. keep it up!
Thank you so much, trying very hard to keep it up :)
So so good guys, everything is possible!
Always, James! db!
Loved it!!! Amazing video, congrats!!
Thanks so much!! Glad you liked it!
This is such a creative way of showing these ideas! I also love the aesthetic
Glad you like it! Yeah, we tried our best Wes Anderson approximation. Would love to experiment further with colour palletes and such, fascinating stuff!
Brilliant, captivating, and so well made - absolutely wonderful job
Thank you so much! Glad you liked it! :))
Mannnnnnnnnn, I go crazy watching your videos, you are wonderful, all the examples, allegories, comparisons make me much more excited to study more and more the 31 TET. Sharing in 3,2,1...
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(Note) How beautiful it would be if the videos were more frequent hahaha, but I understand and respect your time.
Thanks so much, Daniel! I'm so glad you enjoy them as much as you do! Super excited to see (and hear!) where your guitar project is taking you!
This was an excellent video! Subscribed!
Welcome aboard! So glad you're joining the microtonal jazzolution!
Ouch, sorry for that one, please don't unsubscribe again haha
Wow. I adore this, thank you so much for sharing this.
You are so welcome! Glad you enjoyed it :D
So clever. And looks as if you enjoyed making thus as much as I enjoyed watching it. Great stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it! And yes, it was so much fun to record :D
I'm so happy you used Mike Battaglias cover of Sweet Lorrain.
I found it during lockdown and it blew me away, and it fits the mood you are going for perfectly!
Totally agree :D Glad you joined our party ;)
i've recently discovered this channel through this video and honestly, what an absolute gem!
I've recently discovered this comment under this video and honestly, what an absolute gem! db db db
this is a brilliant video and i must save it for later
This is so cleverly done
Inhumanly good, this must have been so much work and it turned out great!!
It definitely was a challenge, but I'm so glad you like it!
This is very original way to show such interesting relationships between the notes
Thanks so much, glad our metaphor seems to have worked!
This was really comforting to listen to in the background while I was/kinda still am feeling bummed out for almost no real reason. Thanks
Always a pleasure to be a vague source of comfort
the production level is crazy!!! actually the coolest music video ive ever seen. honestly.
So nice to hear that the effort is being appreciated! db
8:14 I like to put the middle third over a dom7 (0-10-18-26) chord while approaching it from the minor third, for a nice bluesy feel.
That totally works of course and I really like that sound, too, I was just approaching it more from structural point of view (stabilising note relationships to get the most concordance)
absolutely obsessed with your work. keep it up.
i personally would love to see more behind the scenes and teasers to your upcoming releases. you have found an amazing niche that all music nerds would love to get into and learn about. keep doing high quality productions such as this, and i know you guys will explode in the music community. we want to learn what you have to offer.
I love how you kept the metaphor of a party going through the entire video! Really fun to watch and such great effort put into this.
Thank you so much!! So glad you liked it! db
increadable work!!!
Thanks, Aaron!
phenomenal
great video, so interesting how some that clash as a double stop, sound great with more notes added.
Glad you liked it! Yeah, it's great how relationships of any kind have that in common!
incredible work
Ouff, so I can interpret your other comment as good? :D Thanks a lot in that case! ;)
such a cool and unique video!!
Amazing video... I watched all the relationship scenes twice to fully appreciate how the emotion qualities of the sound was acted out by all the friends. Brilliant stuff!
Yeah, we were blown away by our friends' acting haha
Wow! Leaving a comment for this amazing production to get further out there in the music world!
Your comment is greatly appreciated! Thanks! :)
This the highest effort meme I've ever seen in my life
Anything to please the meme-overlords
This was absolutely amazing. So we’ll written, directed, acted, edited, all of it!
Thanks so much, super happy you like it!
PLEASE bring these characters back I am in love with all of them
Would absolutely love to, let's see what the future holds!
@@HearBetweenTheLines Three weeks later I still can't get these characters out of my head lol. I need more of them.
This video is actually insane in how it conveys information about the topic. Not knowing much about music myself, I'm astonished at both the educational and entertainment value that can be found here.
At the start I thought you would do a fun little sketch but then the rest of the video just continued on like this, which still blows my mind. Good on ya boys!
Wow, thanks so much :))) We really tried our best!
Incredible
❤xentabulousssss!!!! would hate to see a 53-TET party in the next video !!
Reverse psychology? hahaha
This is one of the coolest videos I’ve ever seen in my entire life
This is one of the coolest comments I’ve ever seen in my entire life
That was awesome!
Glad you liked it :)
This is definitely one of your best videos! Executed brilliantly and so creatively. I would hate to see what a 24-TET party would look like. Probably a bit more divided.
Hahaha, totally! Thanks so much, Phil
This is a fantastic video! Im really impressed you got 31 people together for this (university students?) and almost more impressed by the very idea to represent notes by people. Genius.
Glad you enjoyed it! db
Ого, какой классный ролик. Мало того, что так хорошо снято, так ещё и о 31-TET. Причём мысленно всегда так и хотелось увидеть, как одни ноты дружат с другими. Эмоции прям переданы так как надо. Очень классно!
Prezioso. mi è piaciuto molto !
great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
cool presentation! You have earned a subscriber!
Welcome aboard!
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
this deserves more views omg
this video deserves an award
this comment does, too! db!
This is stupidly high quality production for such a small audience.
Even amongst musician I know most don't really enjoy exploring microtonality - so I must commend you for this exceptional video....
And I'll be sure to spread the word ;)
Cheers!
Awww, thanks so much for this supportive comment! Super glad to hear you liked it and especially that you're spreading it, too! db db db
This is such a fun way to think about harmonies. Though I don't know much about anything music theory related, so a lot probably went over my head.
I'm so glad you watched and enjoyed it anyway! If you do want to learn more about theory, there are great sources on RUclips, we basically learned most of it that way, too :)
This is so incredibly underrated and entertaining
Thanks, Peeedah ;) Glad you enjoyed it
I came back after at “least” used to 31 tet. I have to say that most of these sound very pretty.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat! You are better in each new video, congratulations. But that one? That's amazing!!!!!!!!!
Wow, thanks! Glad, you enjoyed it! :)
I just got here but I am very impressed, and I learned something too
Wohooo! Thanks :))
Another one of these videos that help me seeing clearer about 31-TET theory. Thank you people! And, great vidder! (12-TET musical noobie here hehe)
Also, 3:16 is a certified musical yuri moment X)
Glad you enjoyed it! For more clarity of vision you could check out my 31-TET rendition of "I can see clearly now" haha
By the way: What's a musical yuri moment? :D
@@HearBetweenTheLines Nah, that's just a random joke I completely made...
...I basically thought of this moment as like a musical version of a yuri (lesbian) relationship. Thought that was funny ...somewhat...
I cannot put into words how mutch I love this, I already love the concept of personification but with microtonal music theory is just beyond amaizing ! ❤❤❤
Wow, thank you! So glad you like it so much! db!
♯++
Wonderful video
Wonderful comment!
When I clicked on this video I thought Battaglia's Sweet Lorraine had somehow started playing in another tab lmao, since I listen to it a lot.
Anyways, this is something I've wondered about for a while. I suspected the answer was yes, but I lacked the chord vocabulary to know what chords would go with what notes. Awesome as always!
Yeah, I can't count the times I've listened to that song, still love it!
this concept is such new to me, especially the parallelism of chords to actual social dynamics!
also this is just me nitpicking in the thumbnail, but Ab appears twice while Bb is missing
(the real Bb is between F half-flat and F half-sharp)
8:01 made me realize you probably have hours and hours of blooper footage that is probably gold
Hahaha, so true! ;)
amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
This is art