Enjoyed seeing you dig in on this one, Bob! Great tutorial on an important concept. I remember figuring out and analyzing the chords to "Can't Wait for Perfect" way back when and applying the learnings to my own music. Keeping a common tone on top while changing the chords is still one of my favorite ways to compose and write chord progressions.
The human memory for music is so fascinating. I can honestly say I have not heard "Everything In It's Right Place" for YEARS. At least 10. But as soon as you played the lick at 0:12 I had one of those "gaahh! What is that song again??" moments. I love it!
In Jacob Collier's "You and I" there's a brilliant moment where Gb is held and a huge number of chords are played underneath (a lot of #11 13's). Recommend it to anyone interested in Common Tone harmonic movements/modulations!
Thanks for this video I saw the video That Jacob did and was blown away with what he said about "every melody....." Etc and now i am able To understand it better with this video you just made. I wanted him to explain it slowly like you just did . I can go to sleep now that it makes better sense. Thanks again. Keep up this blogs !
Excellent! Thank you for your explanation. I saw it in Jacobs video and kept thinking of it but you took the time to walk through it. New subscriber here.
Instead of listing the chords I was missing (like D7#9 would've been nice to mention), I want to thank you for the minor 11th idea. I've been a big fan of m9 chords for years and never miss a chance to add the 9th to a minor chord (it's so cosy!), but hadn't thought of adding the 11th - the guitar has its limitations and it's sometimes tricky to add extra flavour without losing the core/functionality of the chord. Absolutely love the voicing at 10:40! Wasn't expecting to learn anything when I opened this video (just came here hoping for warm fuzzy feelings caused by lovely chords - which you didn't fail to deliver!), but I'll definitely keep that m11 gem with me. Cheers!
For guitarists check out this video by Spanky Alford. There he explains the same concept starting at around 1:30. Contains some really cool voicings. ruclips.net/video/VLE27TXtGH0/видео.html
A simple chromatic descent + a common tone like in your ''Can't wait for perfect'' is one of my favorite things, I find myself using these things a lot separately from each other
Saw the same Jacob Collier video last week and immediately grabbed my real book to find a melody for a tune (I ended up going with Naima) to reharmonize. I really enjoy going more in depth and approaching it a little differently by keeping the melody note the same. Great video!
Oh, there's another great one, of course: One Note Samba, by Antonio Carlos Jobim, with half the song revolving around two notes in the melody. EDIT: oh well, already pointed out :)
The last two bars of Ladybird go something like Cmaj7 Ebmaj7 Abmaj7 Dbmaj7, with a G in the melody, which is the fifth, then the major third, then the major seventh, then the sharp 11. It's really cool, besides being a perfect example of extended tritonic substition. So there's that :)
Hubert Cumberdale Yeah, of course, that makes sense, simple tritonic substition. I believe some versions actually are all maj7, and it's fun to play that way. It's also how it's written in the first Real Book, although those sometimes are not the most accurate ;) Cheers!
yeah just checked it out again and i see theres all maj7 versions as well as the dominants. my piano teacher hit me on the head for playing all maj7 last week saying the correct one was with dominants. haha gotta go back to him with all maj7's version.
When you played the first chord progressions or riff I was sure it was the theme og bass riff from Shofukan with Snarky Puppy. Way to get tricked in to Radiohead :) Thank you for taking the time to explain this!
This is not an example where the bassline is chromatic with a common tone somewhere above it, but I think you'd like J Dilla - Get Dis Money just for how awesome that chromatic descent in the vocal sample and the subtle droning strings on top sound along with the rest of the harmony and groove
Kurt Elling's version of Nature Boy uses this. The intro/interlude section has a constant B at the top, with the chords Emin, Db7, Cmaj7, Fmaj7#11 cycling underneath
I seem to remember that "Seven steps to Heaven" by Miles has a very nice cadence at the end of it's main phrase that has the tonic note as the melod, while Bass line starts at the bVII, then goes to the VII (kind of a wierd "functional chord") and then resolves to the I chord, keeping the melody as a common tone for those 3 chords. I always liked that. I also liked very much the voicings and the melody of "Killer Joe" by Benny Golson. Keeping the tonic on the top of the voicing as a way of "connecting" those two chords And finally the "super classic "One note samba" by Tom Jobim. I guess no explanation here is requiered. Jobim must be one of the best composer to be considered for these kind of tecnique, my guess. Thank you Bob!!
The first time I read about that concept was in The Jazz Theory Book by Mark Levine, maybe 15 years ago. He demonstrated how one can reharmonize the "I Hear a Rhapsody" standard (if I'm not mistaken), by either going in half-step upwards or downwards and just creating chords that fit the corresponding bass and melody note. I can't find enough words to praise this book, it's nothing short of fantastic and eye-opening. But to be honest after so many years listening to so many jazz and concepts like that, I grew a bit tired by all these artificial and synthetic chords. It's exciting initially but when you overuse it it gets kind of as an end it itself. For the last few years I have been listening mostly to classical music (I've been doing that whole my life anyway) and I really appreciate functional harmony. Having to fit into functional harmony yet create interesting music is what makes classical music so great. Moving into artificial concepts like "let's find all the chords that fit into this bass and this melody" is IMO more having to do with mathematics rather than intuitive music.
Man I really wish I couldn’t understood a lot of what you were doing with the chords but what I did take away was that there are so many variations to harmony! I would like to know how to incorporate it once I learn it to Sax
Where was this vlog when I was at university! I did a whole composition/transcription presentation on this idea - called it 'inverted pedal notes'. Examples included Aaron Parks - Nemesis and of course - Rise and Fall! (Which I thought was going to be the example at the end of this video.)
Hi Bob, I'm a guitarist and often play with sax players and currently setting up an instrumental band with sax players along with myself and a trumpet player. Do you have any tips for a guitarist playing with sax players like things that you like guitarists to do when playing with them/ tips for the band I'm setting up which is a funk jazz fusion style jam band!! Love your content and music!! Toby!!
The most common approach is to play staccato rhythmic chords behind them but you can definitely play single note lines with the horns in some cases, either playing the melody in unison with a horn (or harmonizing with them- e.g., Frankenstein by Edgar Winter). I would just be wary of playing in unison on high notes as you can run into intonation issues.
Very nice concept, thanks for sharing. Songs like the Radiohead everything in place are often played on guitar, in normal or open tunings, but the thing is some strings stay and on some strings you change the tones. On Piano it sounds very surprising, on guitar its quite common. But them "pedals" give a good feeling of eternity and wide space.
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Oh wow! Music video clip from VIVA. That takes me way back...
I swore the first song you were played was "How Much a Dollar Cost" by Robert Glasper/Kendrick Lamar I also thought the second song was a Snarky song that I can't remember the name of It's how many songs have a similar progression
Vultures by John Mayer. You could play an e through the whole song. So in the first chord (F#7sus4) ist would be a minor 7 And Aftersun by Bill Laurance
Who needs a music degree when you can just study vlogs like this! “Somebody this video might be useful to”...how about any aspiring musician! I feel like a syllabus of BR vlogs should be mandatory in colleges! Thanks as always Bob!
cláudio martinelli I made that comment being a music post grad and current masters student in jazz! Times change and mediums of education are ever evolving. RUclips is such an under estimated method of education it works in tandem with the tried and tested methods for me anyway. Shedding, listening etc...Hopefully you'll see my point of view, if not I'll live! Just enjoy the journey instead of spending time commenting on RUclips comments 😉
cláudio martinelli What I'm saying is that RUclips videos, especially informative ones like these serve as a more concise method of music education. Instead of a broad spectrum of topics, each video is stand alone. Not like a one size fits all curriculum you find in most conservatories. Anyway I'm not here to argue my point, as the world would be a boring place if we all agreed. Enjoy the process, take your own advice and spend less time on RUclips perhaps and I'll see you at the finish line. (Albeit a proverbial one that nobody ever reaches haha)!
cláudio martinelli Very true...haha! If only there were an extra 11 hours a day to do so! But for now the sax takes priority. On that I'm sure we can agree! Great chat 🎷
Hey bob when I ever watch other sax videos I always get ads for legere synthetic reeds and the people in the ads say it plays like a cane reed I don’t personally believe this but I would love to see you try them out and your reaction
Some say they have less dynamic range, some say they have less attack or warmth. In the end, it's all about if you're willing to accept cons in order to benefit from the pros
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Enjoyed seeing you dig in on this one, Bob! Great tutorial on an important concept. I remember figuring out and analyzing the chords to "Can't Wait for Perfect" way back when and applying the learnings to my own music. Keeping a common tone on top while changing the chords is still one of my favorite ways to compose and write chord progressions.
Jeff Schneider yeah I agree.That sort of thing gives you a feeling that your slowly moving but not going anywhere at the same time.
Jeff Schneider by the way i love your videos
Nice one... As a drummer, harmony is one of the things I´ll be focusing on this year! Thanks!
JulianFernandez lol. I think Dave wekl actually does actually use notes. He also usually plays a 50 piece set
The human memory for music is so fascinating. I can honestly say I have not heard "Everything In It's Right Place" for YEARS. At least 10. But as soon as you played the lick at 0:12 I had one of those "gaahh! What is that song again??" moments. I love it!
Everything in its right place
My fanboy's senses are awaken
In Jacob Collier's "You and I" there's a brilliant moment where Gb is held and a huge number of chords are played underneath (a lot of #11 13's). Recommend it to anyone interested in Common Tone harmonic movements/modulations!
Those harmonic movements are KILLER. Absolutely amazing
Thanks so much, I find something in every Vlog that motivates me to shed...
I love the knowledge you're dropping. I'm getting back into playing sax, and your channel will be a huge resource for me. Thank you!
Thanks for this video
I saw the video
That Jacob did and was blown away with what he said about "every melody....."
Etc and now i am able
To understand it better with this video you just made. I wanted him to explain it slowly like you just did . I can go to sleep now that it makes better sense. Thanks again. Keep up this blogs !
Excellent! Thank you for your explanation. I saw it in Jacobs video and kept thinking of it but you took the time to walk through it. New subscriber here.
I love how you did the little drum hit when you were doing the demonstration with Can't Wait For Perfect
I love Can't Wait For Perfect and that piano bass line. This is an awesome video
Instead of listing the chords I was missing (like D7#9 would've been nice to mention), I want to thank you for the minor 11th idea. I've been a big fan of m9 chords for years and never miss a chance to add the 9th to a minor chord (it's so cosy!), but hadn't thought of adding the 11th - the guitar has its limitations and it's sometimes tricky to add extra flavour without losing the core/functionality of the chord. Absolutely love the voicing at 10:40! Wasn't expecting to learn anything when I opened this video (just came here hoping for warm fuzzy feelings caused by lovely chords - which you didn't fail to deliver!), but I'll definitely keep that m11 gem with me. Cheers!
Know a song that utilizes this concept? Drop it in the comments!
one note samba
Pretty much any robert glasper. The mans a genius at this stuff
Stolen Moments
For guitarists check out this video by Spanky Alford. There he explains the same concept starting at around 1:30. Contains some really cool voicings.
ruclips.net/video/VLE27TXtGH0/видео.html
I'm pretty sure Kendrick Lamar's "How Much A Dollar Cost" utilizes it.
A simple chromatic descent + a common tone like in your ''Can't wait for perfect'' is one of my favorite things, I find myself using these things a lot separately from each other
This is my kind of content. Thank you Bob!
Great job! Saw Jacob’s video and was hoping for further explanation. Thanks!
Saw the same Jacob Collier video last week and immediately grabbed my real book to find a melody for a tune (I ended up going with Naima) to reharmonize. I really enjoy going more in depth and approaching it a little differently by keeping the melody note the same. Great video!
Great video! Inspiring and clear. Wonderful tune yours. thank you!!
This is so cool! Thanks for the explanation.
Thanks so much g I've been looking at that Herbie video for ages and didn't fully understand it
As a synesthete, this video gave me chills!!! I love it!
thank you so much bob!
"What I wanna show you here...F..." Hilarious but extremely informative! Thanks Bob!
Great one, Bob! Saving for later repeat viewings!
This is great! More harmony/piano videos please! :)
wow how am i only finding your channel now... so good
Oh, there's another great one, of course: One Note Samba, by Antonio Carlos Jobim, with half the song revolving around two notes in the melody.
EDIT: oh well, already pointed out :)
The last two bars of Ladybird go something like Cmaj7 Ebmaj7 Abmaj7 Dbmaj7, with a G in the melody, which is the fifth, then the major third, then the major seventh, then the sharp 11. It's really cool, besides being a perfect example of extended tritonic substition. So there's that :)
Cmaj7 Eb7 Abmaj7 Db7. Imaj secV to bVImaj subV Imaj
Hubert Cumberdale Yeah, of course, that makes sense, simple tritonic substition. I believe some versions actually are all maj7, and it's fun to play that way. It's also how it's written in the first Real Book, although those sometimes are not the most accurate ;)
Cheers!
yeah just checked it out again and i see theres all maj7 versions as well as the dominants. my piano teacher hit me on the head for playing all maj7 last week saying the correct one was with dominants. haha gotta go back to him with all maj7's version.
Hubert Cumberdale "Everyday, music students are hit on the head when they play dominant chords. Things have to change.
#RealChordsHaveMajorSevenths "
When I saw the title, I knew you'd talk about Jacob Collier !
Such a great video, cheers
Great video mate, would love to see more like this :)
Every piano player that hears radio head everything in its right place understands exactly how that chord progression made you feel.
When you played the first chord progressions or riff I was sure it was the theme og bass riff from Shofukan with Snarky Puppy. Way to get tricked in to Radiohead :)
Thank you for taking the time to explain this!
Frederik Simonsen absolutely the same thought
I thought it was Sleeper. Defenitely got a We Like It Here vibe.
I am pretty sure it was Tainted by Slum Village.
I heard that Radiohead tune right from the beginning of this video! Rick Beato did a good analysis on that tune also.
I subscribed right before even watching video cuz I knew it would be awesome
An eye-opener, thanks.
This is not an example where the bassline is chromatic with a common tone somewhere above it, but I think you'd like J Dilla - Get Dis Money just for how awesome that chromatic descent in the vocal sample and the subtle droning strings on top sound along with the rest of the harmony and groove
Tainted , I love that song !
Sick vid! Thank you! Giving me idea on my composition.
your music and your videos are fantastic!
Very good man , Gbu.
thank you for the explanation!
How does implement such a concept in their improvisation/composition?
Kurt Elling's version of Nature Boy uses this. The intro/interlude section has a constant B at the top, with the chords Emin, Db7, Cmaj7, Fmaj7#11 cycling underneath
Awesome vid. And dope taste in music
I seem to remember that "Seven steps to Heaven" by Miles has a very nice cadence at the end of it's main phrase that has the tonic note as the melod, while Bass line starts at the bVII, then goes to the VII (kind of a wierd "functional chord") and then resolves to the I chord, keeping the melody as a common tone for those 3 chords. I always liked that.
I also liked very much the voicings and the melody of "Killer Joe" by Benny Golson. Keeping the tonic on the top of the voicing as a way of "connecting" those two chords
And finally the "super classic "One note samba" by Tom Jobim. I guess no explanation here is requiered. Jobim must be one of the best composer to be considered for these kind of tecnique, my guess.
Thank you Bob!!
Lovely Video! Does anyone have the pdf of the Aebersold progressions that he is showing? Thanks!
Wooooahhh, I just watched that Jacob Collier video yesterday and then you posted this today......universe you're doing weird things again
Wes same here ejejejen crazy
I hear tainted, I like. I hear everything in its right place I like. Reference to Jacob Collier I like.
How do I triple like on RUclips?
The first time I read about that concept was in The Jazz Theory Book by Mark Levine, maybe 15 years ago. He demonstrated how one can reharmonize the "I Hear a Rhapsody" standard (if I'm not mistaken), by either going in half-step upwards or downwards and just creating chords that fit the corresponding bass and melody note. I can't find enough words to praise this book, it's nothing short of fantastic and eye-opening. But to be honest after so many years listening to so many jazz and concepts like that, I grew a bit tired by all these artificial and synthetic chords. It's exciting initially but when you overuse it it gets kind of as an end it itself. For the last few years I have been listening mostly to classical music (I've been doing that whole my life anyway) and I really appreciate functional harmony. Having to fit into functional harmony yet create interesting music is what makes classical music so great. Moving into artificial concepts like "let's find all the chords that fit into this bass and this melody" is IMO more having to do with mathematics rather than intuitive music.
This is jolly useful! Thanks :)))
Man I really wish I couldn’t understood a lot of what you were doing with the chords but what I did take away was that there are so many variations to harmony! I would like to know how to incorporate it once I learn it to Sax
I couldn't find the book that you recommended.
Where was this vlog when I was at university! I did a whole composition/transcription presentation on this idea - called it 'inverted pedal notes'. Examples included Aaron Parks - Nemesis and of course - Rise and Fall! (Which I thought was going to be the example at the end of this video.)
what was the name of the book n teacher you mentioned in your video? Jimmy abel?
First time checking out your challenge and the song choice of Slum Village and Dwele caught me off-guard.
Hey! Great video!
Can you tell me which book are you talking about at 13:05? I cannot find it.
Snarky Puppy live at Casa da Música, Porto was amazing!
Anyone know how to get that virtual keyboard he is using to show the notes?
Probably been mentioned already, but I'm too lazy to look too far down: "Overjoyed" by Stevie Wonder.
That's a Hewitt lot 440 pure right there on the left😂😂😂😂❤🔥
So would the G and D in an Emin7 - Ebmaj7 shift be the same concept?
Hi Bob,
I'm a guitarist and often play with sax players and currently setting up an instrumental band with sax players along with myself and a trumpet player.
Do you have any tips for a guitarist playing with sax players like things that you like guitarists to do when playing with them/ tips for the band I'm setting up which is a funk jazz fusion style jam band!!
Love your content and music!!
Toby!!
Leave the extensions for the horn players to use, if everyone's doing extensions it gets hairy!
The most common approach is to play staccato rhythmic chords behind them but you can definitely play single note lines with the horns in some cases, either playing the melody in unison with a horn (or harmonizing with them- e.g., Frankenstein by Edgar Winter). I would just be wary of playing in unison on high notes as you can run into intonation issues.
Nice video, thanks! Just a question, the Abersold volume 3's exercises was interesting, how do they differ from "traditional" 2/5 exercises?
Very nice concept, thanks for sharing. Songs like the Radiohead everything in place are often played on guitar, in normal or open tunings, but the thing is some strings stay and on some strings you change the tones.
On Piano it sounds very surprising, on guitar its quite common. But them "pedals" give a good feeling of eternity and wide space.
Oh wow! Music video clip from VIVA. That takes me way back...
Hey Bob, what software do you use for the onscreen piano? / Does anyone know what software he's using?
what's the name of the author and the book he mentioned in the video?
Paul Davids did a video on Pedal notes, this concept seems similar, Bob. What do you think?
I swore the first song you were played was "How Much a Dollar Cost" by Robert Glasper/Kendrick Lamar
I also thought the second song was a Snarky song that I can't remember the name of
It's how many songs have a similar progression
Vultures by John Mayer.
You could play an e through the whole song.
So in the first chord (F#7sus4) ist would be a minor 7
And Aftersun by Bill Laurance
In Poland these 7:30 chords we call "Chopin's Harmony" ;)
Who needs a music degree when you can just study vlogs like this! “Somebody this video might be useful to”...how about any aspiring musician! I feel like a syllabus of BR vlogs should be mandatory in colleges! Thanks as always Bob!
cláudio martinelli I made that comment being a music post grad and current masters student in jazz! Times change and mediums of education are ever evolving. RUclips is such an under estimated method of education it works in tandem with the tried and tested methods for me anyway. Shedding, listening etc...Hopefully you'll see my point of view, if not I'll live! Just enjoy the journey instead of spending time commenting on RUclips comments 😉
cláudio martinelli What I'm saying is that RUclips videos, especially informative ones like these serve as a more concise method of music education. Instead of a broad spectrum of topics, each video is stand alone. Not like a one size fits all curriculum you find in most conservatories. Anyway I'm not here to argue my point, as the world would be a boring place if we all agreed. Enjoy the process, take your own advice and spend less time on RUclips perhaps and I'll see you at the finish line. (Albeit a proverbial one that nobody ever reaches haha)!
cláudio martinelli Very true...haha! If only there were an extra 11 hours a day to do so! But for now the sax takes priority. On that I'm sure we can agree! Great chat 🎷
Aaron Parks tune called “Nemesis” is worth to check it out.
Cool Bob
What's really crazy for me is I always assumed this to be common sense, but then I was really surprised to see this.
0:14 Sick! :D
Is Pyramid Song a good example?
Great 👍
Is there any other chord that would work for E in the bass with F on top? (besides E7b9)
A in second inversion with flat 13th (A7b13)
Bb/E
E quartal (E-a-d-g-c-f)
Or like F#M7/EM7(E-g#-b-d#-f#-a#-c#-f)
Or C#/E (E-g#-c#-f)
Pete That is a reference. Don't worry about it. And no, it wouldn't always be a b9 since color and tone can change quite drastically.
Pete.. and I just said why it isn't always wise to say b9 instead of #15.
rachmaninof concerto nos 3 opening. theres many chords hammered under one melody note. Rachmaninof was a master at this.
love me some radiohead!!
Song: Can’t take my eyes off of you
...I guess the bass note stays the same in the example I gave
Hey bob when I ever watch other sax videos I always get ads for legere synthetic reeds and the people in the ads say it plays like a cane reed I don’t personally believe this but I would love to see you try them out and your reaction
IDK if he will but I play tenor and I highly recommend them. I've had the same one for a year and it's superb.
They don't. That being said, they are often awesome products. Watch a ton of videos and try them out!
Cheers
Some say they have less dynamic range, some say they have less attack or warmth. In the end, it's all about if you're willing to accept cons in order to benefit from the pros
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Dizzy Gillespie provided a beautiful example of this concept in the A sections of his tune "Con Alma".
Is it also never too late to get started? ;)
I would hope not… I’m over 40 and I started doing drums and now music theory and harmony. More power to us old geezers! :P
MacBook in the back living dangerous xD😆😫
Blackbird
Omg! I thought that this radiohead's song was "shofukan" from Snarky Puppy! Haha
Esbjörn Svensson Trio (Seven Days Of Falling/Elevation of Love) ;)
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I love Herbie Hancock in the video.
When i see Bob i see that WW2 german sniperist ed harris
chris thile is vasily zaytsev
Anyway...
Respect Bob Reynolds
Stranger in Moscow- Michael Jackson it has a great progession
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For all musicians
Listen carefully to what he says
My humble opinion
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Hey this is called counterpoint. There are hundreds of books written on it. Have you heard of Bach. ?
I used a G and D under the chord changes all the way through this... ruclips.net/video/aSnTJ7qIjVw/видео.html
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