How To Write Chord Progressions With NEGATIVE HARMONY [Simple Explanation]

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  • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
    @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад +180

    By popular request: here are a few practical examples on how to use Negative Harmony when you write a song. They also explain the (important) difference between Negative Harmony and Modal Exchange: ruclips.net/video/heISdRNnEnw/видео.html

    • @pashabiswas8216
      @pashabiswas8216 4 года назад +5

      Could not comprehend how G negative harmony became Fm and also how G7 became Dm7b5...???

    • @JoseRodriguez-pi8cx
      @JoseRodriguez-pi8cx 4 года назад +13

      pasha biswas When you make a “negative” chord, you find the inverse of every note in that chord. For G, you have G B D, which invert to C Ab F respectively, aka Fm. For G7, it inverts to Dø7 because you add F, which inverts to D, giving you the notes C Ab F D.
      Another way of looking it is inverting the root, and then finding the notes with the same intervalic relationships DOWN from that root. So a G7 chord looks like G-M3>B-m3>D-m3>F, so the negative chord should start with a top note of C and go DOWN those same intervals: C-M3>Ab-m3>F-m3>D

    • @freecitizen2760
      @freecitizen2760 4 года назад +1

      José Rodriguez : I like your “other way of looking at it”.
      Good explanation.

    • @Hekaamy1
      @Hekaamy1 4 года назад

      MusicTheoryForGuitar ii

    • @Hekaamy1
      @Hekaamy1 4 года назад

      MusicTheoryForGuitar ii

  • @XalphYT
    @XalphYT 4 года назад +919

    You have musical fingers. When I write notes on a whiteboard and then point to them, nothing happens.

  • @cwade3198
    @cwade3198 4 года назад +559

    For the first time in my almost 64 years, I'm beginning to grasp the logic of music theory. Many thanks for your great instruction.

    • @Короткоіясно-ь8р
      @Короткоіясно-ь8р 4 года назад +5

      It’s not a “music theory”. It’s one more stupid attempt to replace education and practice with “one more simple magic formula which explains everything and requires no effort to understand”.

    • @Studentafmail
      @Studentafmail 4 года назад +24

      Yikes...

    • @Matthew-dr1un
      @Matthew-dr1un 4 года назад +4

      Коротко і ясно nerd

    • @mcaeln7268
      @mcaeln7268 4 года назад +11

      Коротко і ясно are you ok?

    • @AbdulAziz-fg7mr
      @AbdulAziz-fg7mr 4 года назад +13

      @@Короткоіясно-ь8р If he has a hypothesis and can be proven it can be called a theory

  • @cpia2002
    @cpia2002 3 года назад +79

    Easy way to think of it - Going Up the C Major (or whatever) scale, is equivalent to going DOWN the C (or same) NATURAL Minor Scale. This also works for the chord relationship. So C becomes C Minor , D minor becomes Bb, and say, A minor (6th up in the scale of C Major) becomes Eb (6th Down in the Natural Minor Scale).
    Try playing your C major scale up , then your C Minor Scale Down. Think about what number you are on (either going up Major, or Going Down Minor) and then that number becomes is the Negative Harmony of the other one :)
    So SCALE UP C, Dm, Em, F ,G ,Am, B dim ,C (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) Becomes = Natural Minor Scale
    DOWN Cm ,Bb ,Ab ,Gm, Fm, Eb, D dim ,Cm (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
    Just match the numbers and substitute the chord!

    • @sadiqqq
      @sadiqqq 2 года назад +2

      Great explanation, so simplified and easy to understand. Thank you

    • @whysolittlemoney
      @whysolittlemoney Год назад +2

      Hey
      Do you have an idea How the f does G7 becomes Dm7/B5 ?

    • @willwang22
      @willwang22 Год назад +2

      @@whysolittlemoney write down all G7 notes and do negative harmony - it becomes Dm7/b5

    • @whysolittlemoney
      @whysolittlemoney Год назад

      @@willwang22 thx m8

    • @cs16331
      @cs16331 9 месяцев назад

      The hero we all needed thanks

  • @emmawynter5366
    @emmawynter5366 4 года назад +25

    7:17 gave me an eargasm... so beautiful

  • @eblackbrook
    @eblackbrook 5 лет назад +623

    Well explained. One criticism though: In a video like this where your audience is trying to keep the chord progression you just played in memory to compare it with the next (negative) chord progression, having music playing in the background is very unhelpful.

    • @donpirla
      @donpirla 5 лет назад +24

      I always had to rewind and reaply every step, that fucking music kept distracting my brain again and again, how am i suppose to concentrate on a lesson if I have music in my hears

    • @Imagineyourmusiccom
      @Imagineyourmusiccom 5 лет назад +6

      soooooo true, wandering what they think when they do these tutorials...even if this one is very easy to understand and helpful

    • @ryanpetty8843
      @ryanpetty8843 5 лет назад +12

      From the perspective of someone who knows minimal theory and learns everything by ear, I found the music absolutely essential to be able to put it in perspective.

    • @IroAppe
      @IroAppe 5 лет назад +2

      It was a good brain exercise.

    • @oscarfernandogarciagallego4612
      @oscarfernandogarciagallego4612 5 лет назад +79

      I did not notice the background music until I read this comment...

  • @renejohnkerkdyk5006
    @renejohnkerkdyk5006 5 лет назад +669

    This is the best explanation about why and how negative harmony works that I have seen. Thank you, Tommaso!

    • @beregeer
      @beregeer 5 лет назад +1

      @@mcfahk beeing negative disharmonious? :-D

    • @malcolmbryant
      @malcolmbryant 5 лет назад +3

      @@mcfahk I found it very confusing. I am left puzzled as to what negative harmony actually is. Maybe further views will clarify.

    • @Padraigcoelfir
      @Padraigcoelfir 5 лет назад +2

      I concur!

    • @OrbiliusMagister
      @OrbiliusMagister 5 лет назад +15

      I learned about negative harmony for m Jacob Collier, and after some serious research I can say that this video is the best "for the rest of us" who are more inclined towards comprehension than performance: Simple, straight and with many answers.

    • @friskidinggo8780
      @friskidinggo8780 5 лет назад +7

      Not gonna lie, the accent helped keep my attention.

  • @candythiefmusic
    @candythiefmusic 5 лет назад +30

    When I started out writing songs, I wrote totally anarchic non diatonic progressions, and in the intervening decade it has transpired that there was a name for everything I did. It’s fascinating how any sound you can be drawn to has a relational logic. Who knew country music with a minor IV chord could actually be describe in terms of negative harmony? :)

    • @candythiefmusic
      @candythiefmusic 5 лет назад +4

      Also explains why I have always loved a I - bIII sound.

    • @nobnobnobnob
      @nobnobnobnob 10 месяцев назад

      Four minor to One Major is plagueal cadence.

    • @jackhunt9725
      @jackhunt9725 8 месяцев назад +1

      I think a lot of times people just write music that they think sounds good, then someone will analyze it later on and create terms for everything. I took music theory in college and I'm pretty sure that's what my teacher told us about the course, that Beethoven and Mozart and other composers kind of did whatever and someone analyzed it later on to create "music theory"

    • @深夜-l9f
      @深夜-l9f 8 месяцев назад

      @@jackhunt9725 no they didn't do whatever lol they also studied hard a lot. it was just called music. music theory tries to explain how music works, as it is a theory it's always developed to match what humans are doing. music theory is not just beethoven or mozart obviously

    • @jackhunt9725
      @jackhunt9725 8 месяцев назад

      @@深夜-l9f you're right, they studied hard a lot. They also wrote their own music based on whatever they felt sounded good. Mozart wrote the first version of "minuet and trio in G major" when he was 5 years old; I don't imagine he studied a whole lot before that, at least not consciously.
      My point was that the creation of music usually precedes the development of the theory that explains it. Innovation in music usually comes before explanation. Inspiration plays a big role in all works of art. I think we both agree there.
      I also said "Beethoven and Mozart and _other composers_ " in my original comment.

  • @adamedison6831
    @adamedison6831 3 года назад +21

    I'm a lifelong pianist, and I found this explanation very useful - that's the beauty of music theory taught well! Really nice job!

  • @kingdicelille
    @kingdicelille 4 месяца назад +1

    The clearest explanation of negative harmony I've seen. A belated thank you.

  • @tomorama223
    @tomorama223 5 лет назад +9

    i love how this video explains the dominant function of a borrowed minor IV chord, like in all those Beatles songs.
    you could think of that Dm7/b5 as an inversion of the usual seventh chord of C.

    • @AEHcycling
      @AEHcycling 2 года назад

      the Dm7/b5 could also be seen as an inversion of a G7alt in a 2-5-1 in C major

  • @49Ibanez
    @49Ibanez 3 года назад +8

    I've been playing Don't Look Back in Anger for 15 years and I always wondered how the Fmaj to Fmin worked within the C major key, and now I know, great vid, thank you

  • @goodbeans
    @goodbeans 4 года назад +8

    A while ago I found the chord progression C-G-Fm-C and I couldn't figure out why it sounded so good, but this explains it so beautifully! Thank you for the video!

  • @eriknestaas2270
    @eriknestaas2270 3 года назад +5

    so negative harmony is kind of like borrowing chords from the parallel minor key?

  • @JohnnyAGraves
    @JohnnyAGraves 4 года назад +142

    Am I seeing a pattern? Always take the 1and 5 and switch position, flatten the third, switch the 2&4, and switch the 6&7 then flatten to make the minor scale?

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  4 года назад +48

      Yes!

    • @omarlopezrincon
      @omarlopezrincon 4 года назад +18

      @ricky gervais My same question... an example with a different key tone would close the deal to understand this... more so because am writing my thesis on artificial intelligence that learns to compose music

    • @sholohhh
      @sholohhh 4 года назад +12

      omar lopez thats fucking dope dude

    • @faselblaDer3te
      @faselblaDer3te 4 года назад +6

      @ricky gervais
      If I got it right, it works with any scale (western tonal system seven notes scale at least) by just writing down your scale in a circle like in the video and draw the axis (perpendicular to a line connecting your I and your V) and exchange your notes as shown. Instead of starting with a C, you start with any other note, and instead of using the intervals of the major scale, you can use dorian, phrygian, harmonic minor, and so forth...

    • @Nexando
      @Nexando 4 года назад

      Noted. Thanks

  • @hanstaagen2066
    @hanstaagen2066 9 месяцев назад +2

    I hesitated to watch another video trying to explain it in a simple way. Im glad i clicked on the video. Good job

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks! If you're interested, I have also a playlist where I show some application + some advanced concepts on Negative Harmony ruclips.net/video/qHH8siNm3ts/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB

  • @birgerbjessen
    @birgerbjessen 5 лет назад +712

    Nice explanation but PLEASE KILL that
    background muzak......

    • @budriley4807
      @budriley4807 5 лет назад +14

      yessss!

    • @larslundheim7606
      @larslundheim7606 5 лет назад +12

      Absolutely. The excellent explanation of the topic deserves attention!

    • @analogyouth
      @analogyouth 5 лет назад +8

      yes, I don't know if I can finish this because of the muzak.

    • @axelgschaider3227
      @axelgschaider3227 5 лет назад +1

      @@Qwerty-ks8dn it's italian flavored english

    • @gautamasakyamuni6688
      @gautamasakyamuni6688 5 лет назад +7

      @@Qwerty-ks8dn You know idiots are idiots no matter what,we're waiting for your Italian course,come please.

  • @Hide_and_Tweak
    @Hide_and_Tweak 8 месяцев назад +4

    The only thing with that is if you want to apply it in another key than C major, you have to replace the axis according to the relative major key. For example, in D major, the axis would separate the top one: C, Db, D, Eb, E, F, from the bottom one: Gb, G, Ab, A, Bb, B. So the A7 chord would become Em7b5. It's interesting, cause you could explain these subs with other musical theory concepts and it would come to about the same results, but it makes me think of it a different way, and this is always inspiring.

    • @fromchomleystreet
      @fromchomleystreet 2 месяца назад

      Yes, that was one thing he didn’t make clear. The REASON you place the axis there on the circle is because it’s exactly half way between the C (the root) and the G (the fifth or dominant) You just have to work out what the root and the fifth are of whatever key you’re in and place your axis exactly half way between them.

  • @TheProletariat.
    @TheProletariat. 2 года назад +3

    I hear this when I play but totally NEVER thought of the musical science behind what I was hearing! I would not like ending on certain notes.. but this totally explains it.
    Now if I can just stop being "blown away" with amazement and focus on what he's teaching me... lol!! This channel opened up a whole new world to me! Thank you!

  • @wilsonramosguitar
    @wilsonramosguitar 2 года назад +2

    I've been playing the guitar for over 40 years and studying musical theory. And I have never met such a didactic person like you. Thank you!

  • @thechoripankiller
    @thechoripankiller 4 года назад +7

    Quick tip for memorizing this on any scale: The tonic are the same, but with negative harmony the chords pairs opposite ways (I with I, ii with VIIb, iii with VIb, VI with v, V with iv, vi with IIIb, and vii° with ii°. Or for those who don't know about roman numerals, 1st with 7th, 2nd with 6th, 3rd with 5th and so on)
    It is _negative_ in every single way lol

    • @commonpike
      @commonpike 4 года назад +2

      Edu Cabrera 1 with 1, 2 with 7, etc. You.made a typo.

  • @3rg3
    @3rg3 5 лет назад +180

    Usually I don't comment on videos.
    But this video was so didactic and easy to understand that it deserves to be commented.
    I did not know about negative harmony, but it was really good to learn about, because it allows you to give a different color (sound) to any composition.
    Thanks again for sharing this with us.
    Best regards!

    • @theofanmahmuti1053
      @theofanmahmuti1053 5 лет назад +6

      wow dude, you hear that. You're video was soo god that you got EDUARDO ROCA to comment. His comments are as rare as a pregnant female seahorse

    • @3rg3
      @3rg3 5 лет назад +1

      Hahahahaha, I nor understand nor know what was the point of your comment. 0_0
      In fact, you beat me. That was a rare comment...

    • @theofanmahmuti1053
      @theofanmahmuti1053 5 лет назад +4

      @@3rg3 as rare as my dad showing effection

    • @Kottesque
      @Kottesque 5 лет назад

      Whole heartedly agree...Ben fatto signore!

  • @SelfPropelledDestiny
    @SelfPropelledDestiny 3 года назад +6

    I made this for myself and thought others might benefit from this more universal info for transposition:
    All chromatic major/minor chord possibilities should be covered but make sure to remember symmetric property (i.e. if looking for VI remember to read right to left as well)
    Major and Minor Scales Diatonic Chords
    I = i
    ii = bVII
    iii = bVI
    IV = v
    V = iv
    vi = bIII
    vii* = ii*
    Nondiatonic chords
    bII = vii
    bii = VII
    II = bvii
    biii = VI
    III = bvi
    #IV = #iv
    #iv = #IV

  • @jamesdobrovnik
    @jamesdobrovnik 3 года назад +4

    This ones over my head presently sir. I’m still working on the fretboard note mastery instruction. Your lectures are by far the most understandable. I recently rediscovered my interest in the instrument. And obtained some nice gear as a mid life reward. 51 in a few days. Slowly things are starting to piece together. My goal is the sound and harmonies never heard before and really enjoy your content. Have a great day.

  • @yoemichelp_yoe
    @yoemichelp_yoe 6 месяцев назад +1

    Most accurate and comprehensive explanation of negative harmony. Everybody else fall short. Thank you a lot!

  • @MsRobinbyrd
    @MsRobinbyrd 5 лет назад +9

    Wow! Thanks. I always just called it "The Beatles thing"
    You learn something old everyday

    • @Adventrium
      @Adventrium 5 лет назад

      lol, I was thinking the same thing

  • @apurvhellstinger
    @apurvhellstinger 4 года назад +4

    Something I was trying to learn for months , figured it out in minutes, even took notes

  • @inyourfaceicity5604
    @inyourfaceicity5604 5 лет назад +4

    I didn't even know the term “negative harmony,” but it makes so much sense in terms of what I keep hearing when I listen to music. BOOM! New knowledge module plugged in. (subscribed)

  • @nirangasithara
    @nirangasithara 5 лет назад +4

    I did not fully understand this. But now I need to learn those 7th and major 7th flat 5th chords. They do resolve amazingly !!

  • @matsa2620
    @matsa2620 4 года назад +1

    Easily the best explanation of negative harmony that I have seen anywhere.

  • @sgoseofnbakansks
    @sgoseofnbakansks 5 лет назад +9

    your accent makes this even better i love listening to your voice

  • @Hecatonicosachoron
    @Hecatonicosachoron 5 лет назад +8

    Nice explanation. I like to think of it as inverting about the tonic and transposing up a fifth.
    I also like to show that it works visually with the circle of fifths as well.

  • @sunnymittal1906
    @sunnymittal1906 4 года назад +8

    What an insanely amazing way to look at borrowed chords! I've been learning about parallel modes but this puts into a different perspective as to why it works other than just saying "the root note's the same." Love all your videos and you are quickly becoming my #1 youtube channel. Many thanks

  • @eldjennemo2122
    @eldjennemo2122 3 года назад +2

    You were right !
    Negative harmony is very simple... when your teacher is good as you are !
    Un grand merci !

  • @SamirPatnaik
    @SamirPatnaik 4 года назад +1

    Senor, I have been watching circle of fifth videos , on and off, for five years but I have never seen it being demystified before this video. Take a bow, sir. You are a genius.

  • @roderickgorby1234567
    @roderickgorby1234567 5 лет назад +5

    This is the best explanation of "Negative Harmony" I've seen. I think "Negative Harmony" is probably a useful shorthand term, but the term is not descriptive, and the concept described isn't an alternative system of harmony, so it's a little misleading. While the following is more wordy, I believe it describes the process and effect a little better "micro-tonal axis derived chord and melody substitution system". Melody substitution system might be a little generous, since any "negative melody" will simply be an inversion. As a chord substitution system, it's not that far removed from mode mixture, and I'd dare say you might get more adventurous results by handing music to an undergrad and asking them to go crazy reharmonizing something. It is interesting that at the E 1/2 b axis that the relative stability of the tones is maintained, though I would say that phenomenon is more a coincidence in aligning the inversion axis so that nonstable tones map onto each other. The biggest problem with this system comes in hearing the process after the fact. Can someone, even someone knowledgeable about "negative harmony" determine from hearing alone that a negative harmony has been used, or that a iv chord has been used as a substitute for V? I've seen some extremely confusing videos where people who allegedly use this system, and allegedly understand it try to to explain it. Again, this is the best explanation of this idea I've seen. Thanks!

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад +2

      Thank you Roderick. I agree with every single statement you make. And yes, at the end of the day Negative Harmony is simply an inversion that preserves the stability of the tones. For me it's just a tool among many others that you can use in your harmonic toolbox.

  • @MegaNerds1000
    @MegaNerds1000 5 лет назад +9

    7:54 i actually loved this chord progression, i dont know why

  • @riffsfromtheabyss666
    @riffsfromtheabyss666 5 лет назад +5

    I like how his accent helps me focus more. Great content brother.

  • @vincentmarcos4791
    @vincentmarcos4791 Год назад +1

    Tommaso nailed it, as the level of engagement with other viewers
    confirms , kudos facilitating discovery and understanding to your
    audience(a quick google)mentions to Ernst Levy in 1985, and Jacob Collier
    as revivalist since now this
    some findings after the first few hours of watching
    -
    the chromatic circle / graphical presentation aid is very helpful and considers going outside of the key which is embraced in jazz, the half dim in key C's diatonic chords is B I believed until now
    -
    This appears to convert as a Cminor aeolian scale: C D Eb F G Ab Bb scale
    notes resorted
    A Bb
    B Ab
    C G
    D F
    E Eb
    F D
    G C
    -
    diatonic 7 chord interpretative using excel data mining of big data
    CM7 Cm6 (w min 6)
    Dm7 Gm7
    Em7 Fm7
    FM7 Gm6 (w min 6)
    G7 Fm6 (w maj6)
    Am7 Cm7
    Bb5-7 Bb7
    3 note voicings, and then with characteristic chord note coloring will get added to practicing this so far cerebral process , time to get the ears out :)

  • @dr.guyshkolnik_composer
    @dr.guyshkolnik_composer 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great job explaining this concept! Thank you!

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! If you're interested, I have also a playlist where I show some application + some advanced concepts on Negative Harmony ruclips.net/video/qHH8siNm3ts/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB

  • @8cbr
    @8cbr 5 лет назад +46

    I like your style of teaching!!

  • @GiuseppeGavazzaAmbient
    @GiuseppeGavazzaAmbient 5 лет назад +14

    Brilliant presentation on this aspect of music fundamentals, much easier to understand than my college professor, thank you!

  • @EduardoGarcia-yr7er
    @EduardoGarcia-yr7er 5 лет назад +4

    6:44 "D half diminished", Great video! Thank you!

  • @firosuke
    @firosuke 3 года назад

    I found one quick way to "invert" the C major scale notes visually (which may be helpful for inverting chords with 6,7,9 etc...) is this: the nth note counting up(/down) from C, along the C major scale, goes to the nth note counting down(/up) from G, along the C minor scale.
    (You can also do n steps away from G, along the C major scale, going to (-n) steps from C, along the C minor scale)
    More generally, you can do this for all twelve notes if you count in semitones e.g. F#, which is 5 semitones above C, goes to 5 semitones below G, which is C#.
    So for example, D is one step up from C (on the C major scale), so it goes to F, which is one step down from G (on the C minor scale). The sixth note up on the C major scale, A, goes to Bb which is six steps down from G on the C minor scale. It may be easier to see this on the piano keyboard.
    As the video shows, going up the major scale in triads (C major = C E G, D minor = D F A, E minor = E G B, ...) inverts and becomes going down the C minor scale in triads (G Eb C = C minor, F D Bb = Bb major, Eb C Ab = Ab major...) You can see it like this: "going up in thirds on the C major scale --> going down in thirds on the C minor scale". I also find these recipes helpful for chords with more notes.
    For dealing with extensions, one possible slogan is, "adding extensions above a chord (e.g. stacking thirds up from C, along major scale: major, C major 7, C major 9), inverts and becomes adding 'extensions' below the chord, like more bass notes (stacking thirds down from G, along minor scale: C minor, Ab major 7, F minor 9)"
    More explicitly, to invert a C major 7, for example, I can see quickly that C major 7 = C E G B inverts to G Eb C Ab = Ab major 7 (going up in thirds starting from C on C major scale -> going down in thirds starting from G on C minor scale).... And similarly that C major 9, C E G B D, inverts to G Eb C Ab F, which is F minor 9.
    The chromatic version is also useful. For example, the common substitution of the third chord, E minor -> E major (7), becomes E G# B (D) -> Eb B Ab (F), i.e. Ab minor, or F half-diminished (if you also invert the seventh in E major 7: D -> F). Because G#, one semitone above G, inverts to one semitone below C, i.e. B.
    Well, at least studying maths was good for something... ^^;

  • @barryschwarz
    @barryschwarz 10 месяцев назад +1

    I did grade 1 music theory 46 years ago, and can play a bit by ear. You have made negative harmony quite clear to me. Thanks.
    I really wanted you to play that melody and then the negative melody.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  10 месяцев назад +1

      If you check out the playlist, I play many more examples in different contexts (melodies included): ruclips.net/video/qHH8siNm3ts/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB

    • @barryschwarz
      @barryschwarz 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@MusicTheoryForGuitar Thanks very much! I'll check that out.

  • @RoseCadenza
    @RoseCadenza 3 года назад +3

    This negative harmony idea is very interesting and makes a lot of chords that I hear in songs and pieces more sense. Thank you for going into depth on this. I took 6 quarters of music theory, and we never learned about negative harmony.

    • @ELLIOT8209
      @ELLIOT8209 3 года назад

      Just get the relative major minor and then replace the notes using the formula below.
      1 = 5
      2 = 4
      3 = 3
      4 = 2
      3 = 3
      5 = 1
      6 = 7
      7 = 6
      In major the first chord is
      C E G or 1 3 5
      In minor the first chord is
      C Eb 5 or 1 3 5
      In major the second chord is
      D F A or 2 4 6
      In minor the second chord is
      D F Bb or 2 4 7
      Just like with the normal change from major to minor the only notes that truly change are the 3, 6 and 7
      If your melody in major is
      1 3 5 or C, E, G
      In negative harmony the melody is
      5 3 1 or G, Eb, C
      With melody you retain the order of notes but with chords you rearrange into root note structure and then make your preferred inversions.

  • @BVR-fc9sn
    @BVR-fc9sn 5 лет назад +4

    I had 2 years of formal music study. In the years since, I've read countless books and watched countless videos. And now I just stumbled across one of the best music theory lessons I've ever seen! Your ability to present this material in a way that is easy to learn and use is the mark of a great teacher. Excellent job, and thanks for posting this!

  • @GeneAkimoff
    @GeneAkimoff 5 лет назад +5

    Dude! I haven't seen more concise explanation of that topic. Seven thumbs up! Loving your videos

  • @alexanderzieschang2664
    @alexanderzieschang2664 4 года назад +3

    6:37 is the exact chord progression of 'All I want for Christmas' in the key of C.

  • @sicssor8586
    @sicssor8586 3 года назад +5

    I don't why I'm here and what I'm supposed to understand. I don't even play piano or guitar but I like your accent.

  • @RobertIsMusic
    @RobertIsMusic 5 лет назад +4

    I been using negative harmonies for years without even knowing the name of the theory behind it, btw Killer lesson!! New sub

  • @roderickstaples127
    @roderickstaples127 5 лет назад +39

    Fascinating and brilliant presentation. Never heard of it before though. Thanks

  • @keithcourneyea1609
    @keithcourneyea1609 5 лет назад +4

    Pure gold Tommaso! Sounds very natural to my ear. Now to digest and internalize.

  • @aayushsagar6898
    @aayushsagar6898 3 года назад +2

    Omg! Where were you all this time? I am gonna take notes! Thanks, this makes so much sense now.

  • @lauriehallcolemandowns7364
    @lauriehallcolemandowns7364 3 года назад +2

    I must say this was a much better explanation than I ever got from a Music Theory professor!

  • @xzp
    @xzp 4 года назад +3

    At this point I don’t even care what he’s saying, I just wanna keep hearing his voice😍😍😍

  • @ryank6771
    @ryank6771 5 лет назад +274

    The thing about the 'negative harmony' trend is that it actually isn't accomplishing anything new in terms of harmony. These kinds of chord progressions have been popping up for hundreds of years as the result of voice leading and melodic motifs like appogiaturas, inversions, etc. and mode mixture and tonicization.
    The negative harmony wheel is basically just a simple tool to generate chord substitutions for those who don't really have a deep grasp on theory, but the substitutions it produces are not any different or more varied than what has been around for ages. Anyone with enough background in theory can tell you why all of these substitutions work without resorting to any kind of 'negative harmony' theory. I have nothing against it as a simple tool for those who are interested, but I'm a bit puzzled that everyone seems to think its a major revolution in music theory or harmonization.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад +95

      I share your puzzlement, and I agree with your observations. I did this video because people asked me to do it, and because I was tired of seeing Negative Harmony explained like it was some complex, mystical, all-powerful theory.
      To be fair though, while Negative harmony is similar to mode mixture, since they both access the parallel minor harmonies, they are not the same. As procedures, modal borrowing and negative harmony create different results.
      This is easier to see if you apply it to melodies than to chords. If you apply a melody and you 'negative harmony' it, you obtain a specific inverse of the original melody. If you instead proceed as modal borrowing, you would simply alter some scale degrees (the 3rd for sure, the 6th and 7th if appropriate) but the melody would not be inverted.
      This can be generalized to 4-part (or n-part) voice-led progressions: the difference is not in the harmonic progression but in how the voices are led. (It's a bit more complex than that, of course)

    • @martin_lane
      @martin_lane 5 лет назад +12

      True. Realize all useful theory are explanations of what has gone on before. And multiple theories can exist, some float others’ boats.

    • @johnmorrison5812
      @johnmorrison5812 5 лет назад

      Yes

    • @michaelcorcoran3942
      @michaelcorcoran3942 5 лет назад +9

      So how would you explain it without the wheel?. I dont like this wants to resolve stuff either. Its music after a while it can really just be anyway you like.

    • @DagaanGalakticos
      @DagaanGalakticos 5 лет назад +3

      rykirk algiz - I believe that calling this method of substitutions 'dark harmony' is simply to make it fun and mysterious, as one aspect of substitutions.. it's an interesting visual way of remembering the process. Funny how your comment matches your name.

  • @rustyjames2202
    @rustyjames2202 5 лет назад +6

    Wow. I stumble onto this sometimes but never knew the principle.

  • @brendonceccato9663
    @brendonceccato9663 Год назад +1

    Thank you brother! Good energies from Brasil! 🇧🇷

  • @ShellyManne1
    @ShellyManne1 Год назад

    I absolutely love this video. I am a self taught musician who understands music theory. It took years of being highly focused and at times seemed an absolute impossible mystery but I eventually broke the code and I have an extremely solid understanding of theory and I have the guitar/chords/scales/modes etc. completely mapped in my mind.
    The biggest challenge I find on RUclips is finding a video that is at my level of understanding and yet allows me to expand my knowledge. I could easily apply this to writing chord arrangements. Especially since I love to write chord arrangements that move all over and allow interesting melodies. I wonder how often I’ve used some of these negative harmony chords.

  • @bcmarcos03
    @bcmarcos03 5 лет назад +7

    The sounds of the chords helps a lot! thank you man! nice work

  • @LafayetteLeSaint
    @LafayetteLeSaint 5 лет назад +3

    Until recently I've never heard of negative harmony. I can't say I understand it all, but it sounds interesting. I'll have to play this video again and again. Thank you.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад

      If it can help you, here are some more practical examples: ruclips.net/video/heISdRNnEnw/видео.html

  • @lohyibang5134
    @lohyibang5134 5 лет назад +10

    I am so happy that I took the time to click on this video. Now I finally see in a clearly defined and crystallised layout what I have "known" instinctively for a long time but have been unable to explain to others or myself.

  • @zachtaylor1939
    @zachtaylor1939 5 лет назад +17

    so the negative substitutions come from the parallel minor scale backwards.
    1 = 1 (from minor scale)
    2 = 7 (from minor scale)
    3 = 6 (from minor scale)
    4 = 5 (from minor scale)
    5 = 4 (from minor scale)
    3 = 2 (from minor scale)
    1 = 1 (from minor scale)

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 5 лет назад

      Oh wow, that just clicked! That's maybe an even easier way to remember this.

    • @artistwintersong7343
      @artistwintersong7343 5 лет назад

      I am trying to think (me?) if the same would be true in the reverse, too. Like, instead of C major start with C natural minor, then line up C major, start on the fifth and descend. OR am I loosing my mind but minor or major; thinking parallel (staying natural minor) and go in opposite directions, but the root of the first = the fifth of the second for its starting point. One goes up and the other goes down, not sure: C D Eb F G Ab Bb C (upward) would maybe = G F E D C B A G (downward)

    • @johnwilloug2717
      @johnwilloug2717 5 лет назад

      By my reckoning, not quite the parallel scale backwards, but please tell me where I'm wrong, if I'm wrong...
      1 = 5 (from minor scale)
      5 = 1 (from minor scale)
      2 = 4 (from minor scale)
      4 = 2 (from minor scale)
      3 = 3 (from minor scale)
      6 = 7 (from minor scale)
      7 = 6 (from minor scale)

    • @zachtaylor1939
      @zachtaylor1939 5 лет назад +1

      @@johnwilloug2717 i see where you got confused. you're comparing one note to one note. i'm comparing a full chord to a full chord. the negative harmony chords are spelled backwards if you do them note by note, but the triads are still clear. G Eb C for example is still C minor even though it's spelled backwards if you substitute one note at a time.
      C E G becomes G Eb C. in other words 1 (major) becomes 1 (from the parallel minor).
      D F A becomes F D Bb. in other words 1 (major) becomes 7 (from the parallel minor).
      etc etc for the rest of my chart.
      I hope that's helpful.

    • @johnwilloug2717
      @johnwilloug2717 5 лет назад

      @@zachtaylor1939 It is helpful, but I had to sit down and think about it a bit more. Thank you!
      OK, got it - but my non-musical brain means that as I change every chord note by note, I have no idea what the substitution chord will be called, and have to search around for a name for it. Oh well, a surprise every time.
      Just to check I got it right, in the example above, Fmaj -> Gmin, and Em -> Ab min ?
      If you have time to answer this, tell me where to send the tuition fee... : )

  • @The482075
    @The482075 4 года назад +2

    There is a guy on RUclips transforming pop tunes into negative harmony. I was wondering what on Earth was going on so I came here. Nice explanation.

  • @davewebb3847
    @davewebb3847 5 лет назад +4

    Wow. Excellent explanation. The mathematics of music fascinates me. It ties it to an absolute that frees it to be anything. It is the stuff of the universe.

  • @ortanchibiri
    @ortanchibiri 5 лет назад +16

    OMFG!! you just opened a portal to another world for me!!
    Thank you SO MUCH!!!!
    (I didn't have the slightest idea about negative harmony, even the name is new for me)

    • @nagiiboo
      @nagiiboo 5 лет назад +1

      Same here.

    • @philschroeder
      @philschroeder 5 лет назад +1

      Juanjo Abad It’s new because he’s totally making it up! Total rubbish. There is no such thing as negative harmony.

    • @ortanchibiri
      @ortanchibiri 5 лет назад

      @@philschroeder Could you, please, point me in the direction of some tutorial, site or any other resource where I could find a more plausible explanation of the reasons why those chord substitutions do in fact work?

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад +2

      First, I'm not making it up: Negative Harmony is not my theory, it's been invented/discovered by Ernst Levy, and musicians like Jacob Collier and Steve Coleman popularized it. I'm just explaining it.
      Second, yes, there are other explanations for those chords( like modal borrowing). I am making a video where I explain the difference and show how to use those tools too.
      The fact that there is more than one explanation does not necessarily mean that one is right and the others are wrong, especially if the two explanations bring different tools to the table.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад +1

      Here are some practical examples that show how to apply Negative Harmony and how it is different from the standard modal exchange: ruclips.net/video/heISdRNnEnw/видео.html

  • @dhaneshs131
    @dhaneshs131 5 лет назад +5

    This is so exciting and not scary anymore... Thanks Tommaso

  • @moreorlesslikeso
    @moreorlesslikeso 3 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot! I think I'm actually beginning to understand the concept...

  • @fromchomleystreet
    @fromchomleystreet 2 месяца назад

    It should be pointed out that this is just one of twelve different ways you can symmetrically dissect the octave, any one of which will produce the same negative reflection of your overall harmony, just transposed to different keys. Depending on your purposes, another division may serve better.
    The particular division described in the video (putting the dissection precisely halfway between the tonic and the dominant) will produce negative harmony in the parallel major/minor key (eg, C becomes Cm), which is particularly useful for chord substitution. But if, instead, you simply want to hear what the negative version of a given passage of music would sound like, any division will do. And if, as I have, you want to use it as a tool in composition, it can also be useful to produce negative harmony in the RELATIVE major/minor key (eg, C becomes Am). I’ve used this to create a B section that literally “reflects” the A section, and doesn’t require a fancy modulation to link them together because they’re already, essentially, in modes of the “same” key.
    For that, you take the major second above the root (eg, D in the key of C) and make that one end of your axis. The other end will then automatically be the minor sixth - exactly half an octave, or a tri-tone, above the major second (in key of C your axis runs between D and G#)
    When your axis runs between two notes, rather than from one gap BETWEEN notes to another as with the parallel key version, those two notes remain themselves in the negative harmony, while all the others swap with the note opposite them on the other side of the axis. Doing this in the key of C is especially intuitive on a piano keyboard, because it corresponds to the symmetrical layout of the piano keys. Start at D (which remains itself) and move outwards in both directions simultaneously, and you’re playing the matched pairs of notes that will swap with each other, until you reach G# from both directions, which, again, remains itself.

  • @rafaelunplugged
    @rafaelunplugged 4 года назад +11

    Wow mind-blowing stuff delivered easily digestible.

  • @Mr.kobemane
    @Mr.kobemane 5 лет назад +19

    Every beginner musician out there needs to watch this

    • @LowEndStrings
      @LowEndStrings 5 лет назад +2

      And probably no beginner will fully understand this. I think it’s more for advanced musicians.

  • @wege8409
    @wege8409 4 года назад +3

    Fun fact: if you draw out negative harmony on the circle of 5ths instead of the chromatic wheel, it still makes the same shape! Whoa man!
    Sort of reminds me of how a tritone is always straight across on both the chromatic wheel and the circle of 5ths.

    • @commonpike
      @commonpike 4 года назад

      Brock Brown indeed ! nice. And, the line across which you mirror the circle of 5ths is between the tonic and the first fifth, which is much nicer.

  • @Z781-y2r
    @Z781-y2r 2 года назад +2

    You're a great music teacher,
    Im a keyboardist and i have learned many music theory from your channel ❤️

  • @kapresovsk
    @kapresovsk 4 года назад +1

    nice and inspiring. my understanding of this transforms is that they are elaborations and experiments around standard blues: when you go C7 -> F7 -> C7, which is a common starting blues phrase, you get the change from major to minor scale ... in root of C. and then you just apply various substitutions. but there are so many possibilities that you really need a lot of experience to use it nicely, or you just pick one limited rule, or you do your homework, prepare a specific chord progression and play over it. thanks, keep up

  • @jamesruscio6536
    @jamesruscio6536 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for the ingenuity of simplicity in your explanation! I would love to see a video on chordal melody. The rules for proper harmonization with a single line melody. And if certain inversions are required for guitar? Thank you.

  • @lickstoburn
    @lickstoburn 4 года назад +5

    All I can say is that this professor is a Genius. You don't have to know anything about music theory but with a very little i know i can notice hired points others theory teachers don't teach on their videos.probably they don't know.

  • @Niamreg888
    @Niamreg888 5 лет назад +4

    Interesting concept, but the presentation steals the show!! Amazing!!!

  • @Wind-nj5xz
    @Wind-nj5xz 4 года назад +7

    I love how RUclips translated the title as "how to write chord progressions with harmonic harmony"

  • @faridrosero6040
    @faridrosero6040 3 года назад +1

    Oh, now I understand so many things I thought were random creativity, thank you!

  • @Vanolo999
    @Vanolo999 5 лет назад +2

    Oh wow, finally someone that makes things simple!

  • @luderz4490
    @luderz4490 5 лет назад +25

    This is cool, I've never heard of this or learned anything about it in school or anywhere else. Thanks for this!

    • @letBIGGIErest
      @letBIGGIErest 5 лет назад +2

      because it's not real music theory. this just some pretentious bullshit for modal mixture and borrowed chords.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад +16

      That's a good observation, platinum Diamond. Negative harmony is indeed similar to modal borrowing, since they both access the parallel minor harmonies, but they are not the same. As procedures, modal borrowing and negative harmony create different results.
      This is easier to see if you apply it to melodies than to chords. If you apply a melody and you 'negative harmony' it, you obtain a specific inverse of the original melody. If you instead proceed as modal borrowing, you would simply alter some scale degrees (the 3rd for sure, the 6th and 7th if appropriate) but the melody would not be inverted.
      This can be generalized to 4-part (or n-part) voice-led progressions: the difference is not in the harmonic progression but in how the voices are led. (It's a bit more complex than that, of course)

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад +4

      Here's a better explanation of the difference, with practical examples: ruclips.net/video/heISdRNnEnw/видео.html

  • @youri76000
    @youri76000 5 лет назад +4

    Amazingly clear and inspiring ! 🙏

  • @pyrotas
    @pyrotas 5 лет назад +5

    What I find intriguing in the negative harmony way of seeing these substitutions is that it makes particularly clear fixed points in a transformation. Even more, I wonder how far one could stretch the concept of "stable" notes as some kind of (topological? not so sure) invariant and the "active" ones as defects that pop out/are created and just wander about unless they can finally relax onto the stable modes of the theory.
    Or I may just be too much of a physicist blabbering at a time when I'd be supposed to sleep :D

    • @littlefishbigmountain
      @littlefishbigmountain 4 года назад

      Hey, man! That sounds cool to me! A ton of really useful ideas come from some off-hand thought like this, even when people are tired or... otherwise impaired, haha. You’ll never know if it’s actually a good idea until you try to work with it
      Really, even then it may take someone else with an outside perspective to help you kick it around and see it in a new way

  • @jerrycordato3489
    @jerrycordato3489 3 года назад +2

    You are an excellent instructor! Thank you for your clear, concise explanations! It would be easier for me to concentrate without the unrelated music playing in the background. I always love your instruction and explanations.

  • @technoguyx
    @technoguyx 4 года назад +1

    Wow, up until now I did this sort of thing intuitively on my (attempts at) songs, and also noticed it being done on other people's tracks. This video helped me understand what was actually going on.

  • @vortexlegend101
    @vortexlegend101 3 года назад +3

    Lol this is the first vid I have seen on this channel and I am greeted with HELLO INTERNET lmao, great vid man

  • @cable_n
    @cable_n 5 лет назад +4

    At 8:29 if you change the G7 to a Gm7 (G minor seventh) it sounds realllly dope

    • @zachtaylor1939
      @zachtaylor1939 5 лет назад +1

      at that point it's just a simple diatonic progression in F major

  • @markcorradetti
    @markcorradetti 5 лет назад +3

    Wow ! Great content ! I love the way you explained this. I thoroughly understand it now. It's not a big mystery at all. Thanks for the new tools in my toolbox. You teach very well, and resonates perfectly with me. I really enjoyed your video !

  • @mikescofield
    @mikescofield 2 месяца назад +1

    This is extremely interesting and very helpful. Thanks!

  • @alexraulcastellvi4118
    @alexraulcastellvi4118 5 лет назад

    Hi Tommaso , hoping you doing well , I´ve studied classical guitar during my childhood , and nowadays I´m studying electric bass; and let me tell you that your point is truly shocking for me!! No one told me before about negative harmony! It´s fantastic!!! Now I'm subscribed tou your channel looking for more!! Congratulations!!! Greetings from Santa Fe, Argentina!

  • @DieZweiOldies
    @DieZweiOldies 5 лет назад +9

    Bravo!
    A very good explanation which explains to me some chord changes, which I usually identify more with the ears, in an understandable context, which now makes the application much easier.

  • @gabrielleyton2262
    @gabrielleyton2262 5 лет назад +4

    ¡Maestro! Muy buena explicación.

  • @joaquin3768
    @joaquin3768 5 лет назад +40

    Great video. The backgroud tech music its a little bit annoying. Saludos

    • @andylec5879
      @andylec5879 5 лет назад +5

      I would say it's very annoying. But great explanation, thanks.

    • @nigelmagoo
      @nigelmagoo 5 лет назад +2

      For me it's merely distracting.

    • @modusmongo
      @modusmongo 5 лет назад +3

      For me, it completely colored the guitar every time it played. It serves NO purpose, and is melodic interference. Needs to go!!! I liked and subscribed anyway ;-)

    • @donnas62
      @donnas62 5 лет назад +2

      Never put music over speech in a video. Especially busy music.

    • @jebbishop3
      @jebbishop3 5 лет назад +1

      yes, there is absolutely no reason for there to be background music in a video like this, baffling and unhelpful

  • @colinb.4236
    @colinb.4236 4 года назад +2

    Wow, this is awesome. I never thought about Harmonics this way!

  • @기타선생
    @기타선생 4 года назад +1

    Nice explanation, very helpful. Thanks!

  • @BeyondtheRecord
    @BeyondtheRecord 5 лет назад +5

    FINALMENTE!!!! mannaggia, dopo 3000 video, rick beato non è riuscito a spiegarla bene quanto te. grazie mille!! un giorno ti dovrò offrire una birra per questo video

  • @jemsophia
    @jemsophia 5 лет назад +4

    completely mindblowing, thank you so much. let me pick my jaw up off the floor and write some songs with these principles!

  • @iopvixens
    @iopvixens 5 лет назад +85

    7:54 "it isn't sounded good"
    my J A Z Z brain: I don't think so.

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  5 лет назад +19

      That's great! I just said that *I* don't like it, but I have no pretense to tell anybody what *they* like or not like :)

    • @t0ad_
      @t0ad_ 3 года назад +8

      @@MusicTheoryForGuitar you’re so nice

    • @MrSamuel1438
      @MrSamuel1438 3 года назад +1

      @@MusicTheoryForGuitar please do not confuse "not sounding good" with "less tonal". The tonal feeling is weakened, but it does not at all sound less good.

    • @MrSamuel1438
      @MrSamuel1438 3 года назад +1

      @@MusicTheoryForGuitar plus at this point, using negative harmony for some chords only is just a chord substitution with minor degrees...

    • @MusicTheoryForGuitar
      @MusicTheoryForGuitar  3 года назад +1

      @@MrSamuel1438 these are similar, but not the same: ruclips.net/video/heISdRNnEnw/видео.html

  • @kieranunsworth3102
    @kieranunsworth3102 Год назад +1

    This for me is the best explanation of the theory and application of negative harmony. Great video, thanks for making this sir!