Turkish football is mental.
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Turkish football is mental.
Turkish football is mental.
Turkish football is mental. 
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Lived in Turkey for years. Turkish football is a microcosm of how mental the country is. Most club owners have strong political affiliations and just like Turkish politics, the football is rife with corruption and scandals.
Argentina fans also mental, but the different their club are successful
@@harithdanial141I mean turkish clubs at least play in the Champions League and so on 🤷🏻♂️ would definitely consider the Turkish league and players more valuable/successful than argentinas 😅 not hating tho I like Boca Juniors
@@emr1nonlykanka arjantin takımları ucl de nasıl oynasın kendi kıtalarında çok başarılılar
@@ugurcantekin834 yok kanka üstteki yorum demişya iki taraftarda manyak tek fark var o da arjantinli takimlar daha başarılı demiş. Ben de dedim işte amk bizim takimlar en azindan avrupada oynuyor daha çok biliniyor bizim lig dedim
You are correct also clubs keep getting liquidated for the same reason
As a Turk, took the words outta my mouth. From the disgusting hooliganism, the hate and politicalisation that is supported by the clubs themseşves, to the awful incompetence of TFF..It sucks.
You think things can change soon?
@@Vizeh Im not sure. The TFF is awfully stubborn in everything and positive change has been pretty rare. Maybe if the Federation leader resigns we can find someone new to make things better and more equal.
Geçmiş Olsun @TheMarashian
@@karmababy5077 Teşekkürler:)
@@TheMarashianWell I hope it all gets fixed immediately kanka, every headline in the news in UK mentioning football keeps getting crazier and crazier 😅
our league and the WWE share the same core values 😂
You know what, if I just see Turkey as the WWE, everything now makes sense
I watched both Turkish Super Cup and Wrestlemania 40 last Sunday and even WWE could not come up with this type of storyline 😄
🤣🤣
Eyooo!
"Turkish football is Fake"😂
@@echarts3710I am a big wwe fan either😂 way
Can you imagine the scenes if they joined the Greek league 😭😭😭
Oh my dear god😂
Hopefully at least Greek football would get another chance to catch up with European football
Well by coincidence Fener is playing Olympiacos twice this week. Once in football and once in basketball 😂 it might actually work
@@TurquazCannabiz yeah and a lot of greek people that live or lived in Constantinople support fener is turkey. ITS PERFECT
@@hazztles7008 İSTANBUL from 1453 to infinity 😀😀😀
I am Turkish and it has become national news it was being talked about during the local elections
That doesn’t surprise me one bit😂
Ik
Haven’t even watched 40 seconds and I already agree with you
😂
I watched 39 seconds (surprise surprise I agree)
I watched 39 seconds (surprise surprise I agree)
Nice pic bro
make that 4 seconds
I agree (I only saw the Title)
That’s all you need
@@Vizehits not ali cock 🤣🤣🤣
As a Fenerbahçe fan who has been watching your content since about 2016 i would like to thabk you for covering everything that has happened and actually spending time researching unlike some other content creators .To answer your question about what the turkish fans think beşiktaş fans have been showing full support to Fenerbahçe and Trabzonspor fans sided with galatasaray fans as they always do
I want to do a Turkish Football Iceberg video if this video does well, hope you good mate!
@@Vizeh thanks man hope you and your family are doing well.
@@Vizeh Legend
@@Vizeh DO IT!
@@Vizeh great idea
As a Turkish fan this is like maybe the 10 percent of the madness
Foda-se 10% of the total madness ?
My Turkish friend says the same thing everytime I ask him why Turkey as a football nation can't get it together. Last time I saw him having a little bit of hope was the right before the last euros when Turkey had a convincing qualification round.
Youre a Galatasaray fan, the team supported by FETO and always using manipulative tactics to sway the people. 😂 its completely contradictory for you to even speak
@@SquirtleCODMit's people like you who are part of the reason why the league is so flawed. Let the man talk, ad hominem arguments wont get you far. Why is he not allowed to speak? Being a Galatasaray fan doesn't mean he has to like everything the club has done, just like you as a Fenerli don't have to agree with everything your club has done, because Fenerbahçe are just as guilty as every other big club when it comes to corruption and manipulation
@@chickenindabox3169gala fans are the most two faced people in whole of football
The problem is that the league is so bad that everyone thinks they are being treated unfairly.
The Premier League is the same right now too
@@Vizeh But while an event in the Premier League creates a controversy for a maximum of 2 weeks, it can be discussed for years in the Turkish League.
yes but not really,the way it works,referees,VAR(they dont show all the camera angles only show what works for them,or maybe who paid them) its all controlled and manipulated by the organization that does what works for them the best(not a fenerbahce or galatasary fan)
Yes, this is exactly it. It's a shitshow.
Some people don't understand the difference between passion and insanity
100%
To some they're one and the same
The reason is simple to be honest Turks consider football as a way of life and those club presidents use an absurd language towarda other teams for example Fener president called Galatasaray ter🟥🟥🟥ist the list will go on and on you might think these language won't affect the fans but they do fans run into the field they shot a fuckin team bus for fuck sake it has been like this for as long as i remember . It's not loooking like it will change any time soon
@@muhammetdythex2766 you're talking like Dursun Özbek didn't call Ali Koç "
@@ismailegeatalan7518 you missed my point bro almost every team every coach is uses this type of a language that is the main problem
President of Turkish Football Federation has a terrible run and did nothing to prevent all of these events you mentioned.
He will be a perfect FIFA President.
I absolutely agree!
😂
as a turkish person and a beşiktaş supporter i have things about to say lots of the things in this video.
1- all the problems in turkey coming from one and only one reason. i wont be saying his name but if you looking anything about turkey you can figure it out.
2- our football federation president was not elected as usual in last 20 years. normally all the clubs chairmans in first and second division get togetger and elect one of the canditates. Mehmet Büyükekşi was a shoemaker and no clue about football or how to manage it. he even said "i cant be adress which one of the ball in front of me as football ball". someone because of the politic agenda put him in charge of turkish football.
3-our referee's just bad. you can think about it this way for better understanding. if there's a mistake about a call in modern football you can go or ask to VAR to correct your decision right? they were not doing it because they afraid to VAR expose their incompetence.
4- lots of injustice happening in our football, because of the poor management and ignorance. like economic, corruption on every level, justice system, human rights, animal rights...
lmao scared to say his name? the main problem is people like you who stay silent :) you're the problem, not Erdogan. you put him in power, sit on it. :)
With fenerbache vs Galatasaray coinciding with the end of the prem season, combined with the FA charges scandal, we really are in for a banger last day.
I think it's going to be worse. Such a violent fans might end up in tragic events with so many deaths just like what happened in Indonesia 2 years ago.
Can’t wait for it😂
As a Turk, i hope the hooganism in football in our league will be over. I find our situtaion similar to UK football before Hillsborough (R.I.P). Maybe its time to completely change the things around in our league system and regulations.
you do know Hillsborough wasnt to do with Hooligans
Hooliganism/Ultra Culture is a problem but Hillsborough wasn’t to do with hooligans really
@@VizehYes but he used the Hillsborough incident as a time reference.
It was more of during Heysel era than Hillsborough.
@@Vizeh Their point was " disaster were waiting to happen. Federation was ignorant and didnt take any action before it happend"
This league is so unhinged
It’s glorious in the best and worst ways
i agree ( i havent watch turkish league all my life )
Main problem is Turkish Club presidents and Turkish Footbal Fedarations are businessmen.They don’t understand how to manage to football.They are rich but they don’t come from football. But also many of them are connect with Politicians. Government also manage to Turkish footbal federation.One man decide to everythings Economy,Foreign policy ,Football etc….
Thanks for finally bringing some eyes on this situation
Been really interested about it
I am a Turkish person as well supporting Besiktas, there are many controversies in our league as well and football seems not the same as the older times. Back then we were all so passionate and genuinely enjoyed and loved football and things were at least more professional, nowadays it's just insanity everywhere and even some of the clubs that had a great reputation just lost it's fame.
This is absolutely fascinating. How have I never heard of this as an avid football fan? Thanks for the coverage!
Ashley Barnes in the background.. already a Norwich legend, awesome that you appreciate him!
Just watched FNG's video on this yesterday and my mouth became a gaping hole so I'm glad to see you covering it too.
that REF is refereeing Liverpool’s europa league game tonight. it’s your chance to bully him guys 😂
Yeah, and didn't realize that Atalanta won 3-0!
I didn’t realise it went so deep with issues. I had a laugh about the 1 minute stoppage in the cup and watched this to see what was up but damn there’s so much deep rooted issue
As a Gala fan, what Fenerbahçe fans say is true, but it's true for the whole country. The standard of refereeing is appalling in Turkey in general and many of what Fenerbahçe deem to be 'bias' happens to nearly every team in the league, especially the big three.
I can see similar things in Prem too, everyone things the league is corrupt to them but in reality everyone is shit
But isn't it odd how so many of those incidents benefit you? Lets not pretend if we ask fans of every team in the league who the errors benefit they won't all say Galatasaray. It's nice that you can mix us genuine errors and play the victim, but it's also expected. Just saying I hold no affiliation to any Turkish team, but I have a lot of friends who do, and the name Galatasary comes up an awful lot where corruption and manipulation is involved.
Bet my house you win the league this season!
The referee level in the bundesliga is bad aswell but all of that has to do with there being too little referees overall in basically every country. The overall quality has sunk significantly and if a referee does poorly he wont get punished because there simply arent enough qualified referees to replace them (by qualified I dont even mean good necessarily but just referess that are allowed to host matches in the first league). There are also referees, definitely not a majority, but some that seem to be more in the job for the power that they can obtain. There is a certain amount of arrogance with which they carry themselves.
@@helvete983there is nothing benefitial to galatsaray fenerbahce has a shitty attitude and has an embaressing management i hope they leave the ligue
@@helvete983 they literally got 9 points in these last matches thanks to penalties near 90th minute if the referees wanted to help us they wouldnt have given those
Never actually knew how interesting Turkish football is, great video. Also, when is that saarbrucken video coming out now that sadly their historical run is over?
it really isn't so interesting.
gala most the cry baby match fixer club
When you live in Turkey like me, events like these are always just classic newspapers that are published every day.
Bro, the worst thing is that ex corrupted referees now have a television program on Bein Sports where they judge the current referees games. And they burned them to the ground. Everyone thinks that their truth is the only truth. I am not sure when this will end…
Thank you for covering this. The corruption is so rampant and the evidence behind it is too much to overlook. This whole season has been a fiasco for the league.
The Trabzonspor bans have been lowered by the Turkish Football Federation since the initial bans that were announced. Thought it would be important to clarify that
Another great video mate
Thank you pal
Thanks for a great creative topic. Spot on
stretching games to +7 min and end right after game equal is mental. that ref definitely got another things bigger than that those punches for him.
The moment i finished zealands video on this your video came up,might be a sign that I should watch some turkish football
Go for a run mate
Especially consider Galatasarays matches.They are always more challenging and a pretty good Football is played
this shit will never end because we as turkish football fans talk more about outside of the field
In the 3rd german division there is a ex-Referee which does a game analysis for every played game and counts the big errors. He does that for the whole league and for a non club-binded website. It would be interesting to see which of these desicions done in Turkey are acually false and not just unjust acusations and also who profits from it the most.
There's no need for an expert or anything, Its way too obvious for anyone watching both gala and fenerbahce games here. Gala player does a gesture towards the opposite fans. Gets suspended for 1 match, instantly. Fener player makes gestures towards opposite coach and players, swears at opposite fans, fights with his own teammate and THREATENS the ref all in the same game and doesnt get a red card or a suspension. This alone is enough to see the difference. Dont even need to talk about how many red cards, penalties, goals were gifted to fenerbahce to secure their points. Dont even need to talk about how fenerbahce manipulates other teams in the league and make every away match a home match basicly. Getting all of the opposite fans seats to themselves. Filling the whole stadium with their fans. And doing the exact same on Gala games. Filling the whole stadium with Fenerbahce fans while Gala is playing away. Its really simple to someone thats willing to see.
do yo know the name of the show? i'll appreciate it if you share with us, thanks
Its just the general situation in turkey rn tbh, not just football
im a BIG Fenerbahce fan and I want to say that you are REALLY RIGHT.Even Turkey doesn't even talk about it.
Seems pretty exciting, I had a nice holiday there in Türkiye once
As a Turk, i can confirm that our legaue isn’t really normal. It’s just mental, and also unpredictable.
I love how this is just a regular month of chaos, absolutely nothing extraordinary
Greetings from turkey love the vid as a besiktas fan
I now have an urge to watch Turkish Football
Loving the retro England top. Is that the Euro 96, Gazza chipping over Colin Hendry and scoring a volley against Scotland, jersey?
Good job my friend!!! Do also a video about Greek football! Love to see it. You came in the past if i am not mistaken (olympiacos Burnley 2018)
If as a referee you feel like you could be assaulted its no wonder they make so many atrocious calls especially towards home sides.
I am a Turkish Fenerbahçe fan. First off, I would like to thank you for your video. It really summarizes how insane the Turkish football has become. My personal take is management of organizations in general are not in competent hands. Fairness in any competition already requires high standards and I do not see this happening in the near future in Turkiye.
not just football mate. everything is mental here :D
Should do a video on Bayer leverkusen next u could do good insight into there history and season
Will love too!
Much love for Turkish fans from Bulgaria 😂
One more point as a Fener fan maybe not under the sporlight,in first half of a season just before fener gala derby Fred fener player was given a red card for saying a bad word to the ref that has not been proven yet.He is the key player for fener and just like that he was suspended from a turkish ref that apperently understands portuguese
Depends on what word it is, some swear words are commonly known in different languages
@@Vizeh the referee who gave the red card did not speak any other language than turkish and he also isnt qualified to take place in european competetions due to his lack of english. fred only spoke portuguese and english yet the referee somehow "understood" those words and gave him a red card. allegidly fred said something like "this is stupid" and the referee took his card out because he tought it was a swear word. and this event taking place at the end of the match that was right before the derby against galatasaray (who are objectively the team that has benefited the most from the corruption) . this event also made fener basically park the bus , the game had barely any shots taken and it was generally boring all because fener failed to play attacking football because of the fact that fred is a key player that is holding the structure of the both the midfield and the entirity of the team itself.
Here's an added bonus: Fred was sent off and punished right before the game of Fenerbahçe v. Galatasaray in the first semiseason of the league for saying "why are you giving this stupid foul", as stated. This position was a grey foul right outside the box against Fenerbahçe, in the game's last minutes where Fenerbahçe was in the lead 1-0.
But weeks later Carlo Vinicius, a Galatasaray player, literally got in the face of an assistant referee and said "fuck off" three times in a row, in the game right before Galatasaray v. Beşiktaş. FOR A THROW-IN.
Dude you fenerbace fans really mental. He literally Said fuck you and it is as clear as fucking sky lmao
This is a detailed x-ray to the sad reality of Turkish football in this season. Good work, thank you for shedding some light on that situation.
This will be a sad thing to say, but as in many areas in the country, if the ruling party would just take their hands off the federation, that would improve things dramatically by itself. But the members and key supporters of the ruling party in here are so greedy, they just want to control everything they can profit off of. You should look into the bet industry in Türkiye and how betting and gambling ads made their way to many, many websites where there's illegal streams of the Super League or other TV&film content. That money flow ties to the key supporters of the people in power in here, and I don't want to talk further about that as it's where things get dangerous but you get the point.
So, the thing we should do is not allowing politics in the football federation and the pitch. Easier said than done though, there's too much money changing hands to even allow that to happen.
The funny part is there are much less money and fame in the basketball and volleyball teams in Türkiye, yet Turkish teams are so successful in international events, even dominating some of the competitions they're in. This also reflects to the national side of things, we're the #1 in women's volleyball because it's just our women competing at the highest level. It makes me feel hopeful to see what happens when no political influence nor corruption has made its way into the federation and the clubs.
When something outside the pitch and the game is being talked in football, football is not football. The game has to stay within the 90 minutes and nothing outside these minutes have to influence what happens in there...
Nice video mate.
they’ve dodged match fixing scandal just because their calls been listened illegally, not because they were innocent. even their president admitted that.
Love your videos
Thank you man
@@Vizeh me and my brother watch your new video every time one comes out
Love the vids keep it up
Cheers pal
I'm a Fenerbahçe fan and i can say that with proud i'm glad to be a Fenerbahçe fan. Fenerbahçe is a big team with 25-30 millions fans and it representing Turkey in nearly every branch of the sport. Yesterday woman basketball team won the euroleague, man basketball team tries to win the euroleague also. We also one of the best teams in europe in mans and womans volleyball too. We are active and one of the good teams in table tennis, box, sailing and etc. As you said in the video we are good at football in europa league and conference league. Now think about by our perspective, Fenerbahçe is the first team that collects points in Turkish league in the last 10 seasons and we have 0 title. It is a bit awkward situation. Terorist group claimed that Fenerbahce made matchfixing we banned from europa for 3 seasons we lost a lot of money. When we are very close to championship our bus is shoted and we still don't know who it was and our player afraid and we lost the league again. Think about a team that has a great victories and trophies in all the branches but not in football. How many teams in the world gone through shit like this? In trabzonspor match trabzon fans throw thousands of waters and coins and hit a lot of player of us. They throw a burning material and when this material in the pitch ref gave trabzon a foul and trabzon equalise the match 2-2. We were ahead 2-0 before that. Also they attacked our players and our players defend themselves and TFF gave our players penalties. It is very hard to be a Fenerbahce fan. We couldn't be successfull in Superleague because football is a mess in Turkey. And politicians are also involved in. We have to fight against all of them.
Props To you and Galatasaray for not playing the Turkish Cup In arabia
You guys are really stupid
Womp womp
Puts into perceptive when comparing it to the other leagues
Seeming as they've just dropped into the Championship relegation zone, I'd be interested to hear your opinion on Birmingham city.
The fact that their protests weren't even taken seriously is sad to see.
Interested to see what happens next with this, the season ending may be insane
the real reason about the protests is tha match fixture thats why nobody cares, Gala had even a harder match fixture when they were in 17th in the league, they played against Barça 3 days later Beşiktaş (İstanbul derby) than 3 days later Barça again. We didn't cried. And if you watch Süperlig you know that Fener always does matchfixing and gets Penalties at the 90th minutes usually if they are losing/draw. The only true thing they say is about the Trabzon match.
@@xdem1r because you guys had no chance to win the league or the champions league anyways, we actually have a chance to represent Turkiye as a country against Greece
@@xdem1rGalatasaray Fan complaining about match fixing is ironic asf
usually tantrums are not to be taken seriously, especially the tantrums of a billionaire. The more Ali Koc cries, the more Galatasaray will expose his incompetence
I’m a beşiktaş fan and you are right by saying that turkish football is mental.
Watching the turkish league as someone who does not support any of the Teams may be the Most entertaining thing you‘ll ever See. But for someone who supports any of the Clubs it may be the Most nerve wrecking and painful thing ever. As someone who has been following the league and watching games for the past 13 years I can say that some of the things happening in this league are so predictable. You can just tell that match fixing and helping certain Teams is a thing. E.g. if you look up the derbys that have been played in the last 5 Seasons you can tell that one Derby was always played either on the second to last Matchday oder third last Matchday to keep it exciting until the end. Another example: Besiktas has played 8 from the last 9 Games against Sivasspor in Sivas in Winter and one during summer and it is known for a fact that winters in Sivas are very cold and tough to handle. Just tells me that the Championship is artificially being kept exciting, especially because the top 2-3 Teams always fight up to a certain point in the Season. The Referees themselves confirm wrong decision makings because of pressure put on them and you cannot even blame them because if they don’t bow to pressure they either get attacked by Fans or club staff or even club presidents.
Great job broh
7:15 bit of background information: Trabzonspor felt earlier robbed of a championship agaisnt Fenerbahce and the TFF. This is why Trabzonspor feels an intense hatred towards Fenerbahce these days.
Trabzonspor really tries too spin this as if they are the victim of these riots and are punished way too harshly. Theyre mainly using "whataboutism" arguments towards Fenerbahce players, who granted, also misbehaved. With Jayden Oosterwolde kicking a fan in the head while that fan already was downed on the ground. It really seems now Fenerbahce is responding with more whataboutism, they felt like they where being wronged for the last 20 years
If you ask me, the relationship between both clubs are damaged beyond repair. Its too dangerous, also with the reputation of Turkish fans in mind, too allow fans anymore of both clubs at matches. All Fenerbahce and Trabzonspor fans should stay at home when the sides play eachother
You are right in some of what you say, but just because a fan with a knife and a stick is on the field and on the ground does not mean he will not get kicked. If someone is attacking you and your team, it is their natural right to respond. Yes, this is not the right thing, but first of all, they need to think about their own lives. There is no football federation developed enough to talk about what the players do, we must first solve the fan problem.
I’m sure Aston Villa can’t wait to travel to Turkey if they end up playing fenerbache
The higher the euro rises, the smaller teams income diminishes. Over the last three years, many popular small-town teams have gone bankrupt, and many others are waiting for their turn. Not many care about the economic situation of these teams. There is a 33-point difference between the second and third teams, and with five more matches remaining, this divide will likely widen further. It's worse than any 'farmers league'.
*I'm a Turkish guy born in Stuttgart, Germany where football is also an important thing*
*In **#Türkiye**, they take football way too serious…*
*_A common example are graves at the cemetery of the deceased ones painted in the club's colours & logo_*
*_Loyalty even after death…!_*
*And Ive seen that more than once…it's not even an oddity but quite common…maybe the lead levels of the big cities are too high*
Impressive stuff. How do you follow all of that without knowing Turkish
Team bus being shot is crazy
it surely was. if the driver of the bus, who got injured and was bleeding, didnt manage to hit the brake and bring the bus to safety the bus wouldve fell into a viaduct and likely the whole team wouldve been killed. till this day the guilty one(s) havent been caught.
we fener fans will never forget and will never forgive
We can not judge ,
We have refs that let var ref ,
Had a English ref issue 3 yellow cards in a world cup game to the same player ,
Goal line tech failed at villa park the year they just stopped up & diaz even using var was deemed offside at spurs ,
Var say's sorry doesn't put points on the table
Visualy
Are
Rigging
Lets not forgot even a ghost goal in the ucl between two English clubs
When the Club President becomes Ertugrul and the footballers Janissaries
Regardless of what might've been told on Turkish media Fenerbahce did actually fixed matches during 2010-2011 season. Aziz Yildirim (Fenerbahce President at that time) accepted the proofs such as records of phone calls and videos of Fenerbahce opponents receiving bags full of money in public. Even on the case held by the Court of Arbitration for Sports (An independent Swiss court) Aziz Yildirim didn't deny the allegations. Moreover, current president of Turkey (was prime minister then) Recep Tayyip Erdogan who also is a Fenerbahce Club member and Servet Yardimci (Turkish Football Federation member then and Fenerbahce Board member. Also running for president for this year's Turkish Football Federation election) changed the law so that Fenerbahce wasn't relegated after that season. After all these Aziz Yildirim served a year in prison.
In 2016 the parallel structure in Turkish government attempted and failed a coup so a lot of people related to the organization were penalized and were let go. The problem started here. The Turkish courts decided that the proofs, tapes and videos were obtained in an illegal way, so the case was closed. And now Fenerbahce is claiming they didn't fixed matches and it was all a plot against them by the terrorists.
Ludogorets vs Fenerbahce is going to be mental next year 🔥🔥
Welcome to the Süper Lig where chaotic is normal.
love the videos
im saying these as a Turkish person
1- you spelled most of the names right other than Ankaragücü whcih is said as Ankaragükü and the name ''Koca'' which is Koga in english more like
2- Fenerbahçe is actually more on the referees side as they haven't been winning any championships and for worse losing some non stop things like winning all the Beşiktaş derbies inside as 14 to losing one or more so they want more and more every season
3-Trabzonspor actually got less money to pay for their fans than Beşiktaş fans which threw bottles at Galatasaray players heads and made one named Berkan Kutlu actually get injured and not play for at least 5 games
4-this video is mostly on the bad sides but there are good things like Karagümrük giving Kasımpaşa a place to train which Kasımpaşa normally uses the national team's training places which was cleaned and Karagümrük with Kasımpaşa are like Galatasaray with Fenerbahçe normally
(pin this or dont but more people should know about these things too so please make him see the comment to maybe do more about their football)
Im a fenerbahce fan and im turkish so this season has been hella crazy for me 💀💀💀💀
Also note Josef came back to the league. And plays for basaksehir now 😂
hi there, i'm a Besiktas fan for 20 years and I am not that much of a fanatic in respect to other teams in Turkey, I support them if I see a team play better than my own.
With that being said, I personally feel like Galatasaray has so much power and influence in the decision-making systems in Turkish football regulations and they can put lots of pressure in decision-making processes, both on the pitch and off the pitch due to their fan numbers being higher than Fenerbahce and Besiktas and also because they have more influential people both in politics and also business(yet the almighty president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is a Fenerbahce supporter). However, most of the ongoing discussion in Turkey does not carry truth in them and are almost fully speculations, like Galatasaray being the sole reason for Bein Sports to stream Turkish league.
As a Turkish football enjoyer, I should state that this present chaotic environment does put me off from watching my own national competitions and lessens my sympathy towards the culture behind all of the clubs and even the national team. And I think I am not the only one in this situation, mostly young generations are watching European leagues and describe themselves as fans of non-Turkish clubs(mostly English ones like Liverpool and City). I really believed the current Fenerbahce president Ali Koc and some previous presidents at Besiktas and Galatasaray could put an end to this chaotic environment but they are and were not able to end it, or shift the Turkish insanity to a positive path. Fans are also responsible for a better atmosphere. Rather than a sport, most see football as a battle. Even though they have close friends and relatives supporting a rival team, most can swear heavily towards the rival supporters. Aggression and violence can sometimes come into play and even people from an intelectual background can lose their mind.
Football is a great way of bringing people together and in my childhood it was quite successful in that. I remember celebrating the Galatasaray victory in UEFA final and cheering for Fenerbahce when they had beaten Sevilla in Champions League round of 16. Most of the people did so back then. But nowadays, it is as if these teams are the chief enemies, especially with social media, a toxic environment and hostility grows bigger day by day, some injustice applications by the Football Federation, or some decisions that are seemingly unfair for a particular fan group just add heat to the ongoing tension.
I think with better and autonomous decision-makers, clear-minded administrators in clubs and well-educated fans Turkish football can hit its potential and become a top league in Europe after the top 5 leagues. Yet, I don't think this will happen in the near future.
As a Turkish Fan, I'm living in Giresun so I support my team Giresunspor. Our city is next to Trabzonspor's and I can't say we have good history. Trabzonspor fans is just can't accept losing, being selfish for no reason. And that's how they react when they got defeated.
as a turkish beşiktaş fan, i believe that this league is so corrupted that everybody thinks the refs are, sadly, shite and this is just 5 or 6 issues that youve covered, if you watch the league for a while youll start growling for foul play
I've heard more about this league this season than in the past decade.
the english accent for the first minute just reloaded my brain lol, idk why
I been meaning to start following the Turkish league more, it sucks what it's going thru although I did laugh at the Galatasaray "game" on Sunday
Simply look at VAR goals overturned of galatasaray opponents versus fener goals overturned by VAR. Or the fact that the weekend before the derby, fener got their home game rescheduled to play in Kayseri, while galatasaray got their Sivas away game rescheduled to be at home. No point in playing when outcomes are decided before the season even starts
TFF President Mehmet Büyükekşi is a Galatasaray Club Congress Member. This explains most of what you said in the video. Also, Trabzonspor's ban that they received after attacking the fener players is lowered upon Trabzonspor's application. complete madness
As an admirer of football and being a Fener fan, I can only say this video is spot on in many regards. Yet, there are still a lot missing points this gracious commentary missed as one would expect. Fener and Gala are the leading European clubs if they were managed by well-minded managers. However, Gala and Trabzon are too embedded in an established politics that have been trying to confiscate Fener since FB has always been run by anti-establisment secular bourgeois. If we are to beat establishment, we'd at least become a regular in Europe League as we do in basketball.
Everything is mental in Türkiye not just the football everything every single thing.
It was planned and public before the match, right? My dad told me that they planned It (he said in detail what they did and exactly that happened) a day before the match.
as a gala fan i respect every teams
I love how you pronounce turkish word😁😂😂
Love you Liam😁😁
As a Turk (and Fenerbahce fan) this was a good and fair summary
I'm CRAMIAN TATAR for UKRAINIAN but I like (Beşiktaş)
Bro I loved the video, so many informations in a short time very well done. I want to help out with some names because it is really funny if pronounced in English. As example the c or ç you can say like tsh e.g: Ali Koç = Ali kotsh. I hope that helps.
Loved the video but the decision of withdrawing from the superlig was postponed after the league ended
The crazy fan bases are what make football
so true
As a Turkish and also as a FENERBAHÇE fan, football here is insane. One team rules the whole league because it's an unfair competition. We just want fair, during this scandals.
It’s never boring in the Super Lig 😂
Great Entertainment as ALWAYS LOL
I’m a Galatasaray fan and this league gets more insane and mental everyday