I've just watched this 4 yr old video and I do see the differences, Now in 2024 how does the P5000D compare to thr Hand Applied polish powered by Turtle wax that you now have on your web site. I've been using this polish for about a month now and really like the results. I am a 70yr old low rev low speed league bowler and your polish gives me a nice reaction backend.e
Traditionally, a “polish” is an abrasive cutting compound, basically the same thing as a fine sandpaper. Although it does leave residue, this should be completely cleaned off after polishing. A “wax” fills the pores and minor scratches and remains on the object. I’m from the automotive painting industry, and we typically use a polish to bring the paint back to a shine after sanding it with 1500-3000 grit. Unless a bowling specific “polish” is not a true polish but a wax product, I am confused by the use of the terminology.
It's because he's intentionally misleading people to sell his own products, which are typically just rebranded products from a supplier. The pads are from a company called Joest Abrasives, and he now sells ball polish as well. Ironically, it's made by Turtle Wax - if I had to guess, it's likely their Clean Finish Polishing Compound.
So I'm new when it comes to sanding. Whether I'm using a pearl or solid, if the ball is normally designed for 2,000 or 3,000 finish, your saying use the 5,000 pad to give more power on backend? I thought maybe going the other way using a 1,000 pad might give more teeth and power? Do I have it backwards? Also I thought when a ball gets near 5,000 that it woukd be the same as being considered lane shined? Which would reduce ball power too right?
If the ball is going too long at 5000 grit what would you do to make it a little sooner ? Eg. I have a Radical Conspiracy Theory that I take up to the 5000 D pad and let’s say it’s a little long.
Just got a black widow gold. Wondering, sense the factory finish is 500/1000 with powerhouse polish, if this pad would be the one to use when I resurface or if I should use a 1000 with polish. Thanks ron for another great vid.
@@Ctdbowling okay thanks my brotha. If I use the p5000d without the polish will it be more aggressive than factory ? I see that's the case with the storm polish but what about the turtle wax. (I have access to a ball spinner)
Hammer Pink Widow is 500/1000 then powerhouse factory polish. So to resurface it should work it from 500 to 1000 to 3000 to then the P5000D pad all on the spinner?
I always wondered why polish labels listed grit levels that the finished product grit would NOT be. What is the actual grit of the bowling ball that is polished with the Storm Step2? Label grit says abrasive1500, but we all know that's the material grit. What about the bowling ball surface?
So you are saying that the ball will scan at 5000 grit AND ALSO have the carrier liquid on the surface of the ball? There is no way to remove the carrier liquid off the ball? Cleaner? Only scuffing the cover with a pad will remove it?
@@ricerocket702 it depends on the carrier. Most bowling ball polishes you can't get it off other than sanding it. Some are made with animal fat. Which is good for cars not so much for bowling balls. We have lots of videos showing polish bowling ball scans. They are between 5000 and 5500 mostly. Just search the channel
@@Ctdbowling You are stating that a SANDED 5500 grit ball and a POLISHED 5500 grit ball will react differently because of the liquid carrier reside leftover on the surface of the ball. Even though the 5500 grit scratches are the same, the surface of the ball is different?
the fact that he just hit it with the pads and now adding that doesn't seem right if he had another ball that was the same in about the same condition would make more sense I would think
Very cool. This is why I refuse to let certain balls have polish on them. If I need a ball to get downlane, or for burn, I'll pick a ball that comes with polish from factory. Very rarely do I add polish do a ball that does NOT come with polish from factory, because it drastically reduces over all hook. Personally love the idea of a high grit finish without polish.
Actually you can do a simple test yourself. Take a new polish ball and wipe some oil on it. Watch it absorb, then go sand to a shine. Wipe oil on it again. You will see a big difference in absorbtion.
Absorption and surface performance are 2 different things. Your stating performance degrades when grit is applied with a carrier. What I think happens with friable grit polishes is they polish unevenly, your product the pad provides superior even sanding. The 3000 grit gets the peaks shaved off to provide a even 5500 grit sanded surface. There was a course in engineering 36 years ago, but it never discussed bowling ball refinishing
@@Ctdbowling Thanks man I'm really interested in your products which we lack here in Kuwait or not using at all. I already purchased some of your products TruCut Polished Ball Maintenance Kit and Back to League Kit - 4 oz That Wow Factor Ball Cleaner / 6" and will ship it to Kuwait where I live and can't hardly wait to spread these products here as I'm trying to arrange with my friend in the Pro shop. Thanks Bro
I’m confused, you say in the video that the P5000D pad is available October 1st, but it appears to have been in the 6 pack I ordered a few months back? If the video is old, you should probably overlay a graphic saying the pad is available now.
@@1steeler4life, I would personally rate it 7/10. A pro would definitely be the core and the weight of the ball, I have the 16 pound version which is the heaviest variation, so it hits the pins really hard and gets quite a bit if pin action due to core and weight. Another pro is the hook, it hooks pretty hard when the oil is gone, it is good for light to medium oil patterns, I have also done well playing edge with the ball. A con is the surface, and another one is 10 pins, it isnt impossible but I will probobaly only hit 7/10 10 pins, so I would recommend not using it as a spare ball when it comes to even the 6 and 10 pin.
I used the P5000 grit for my Storm Snap Lock to attack the 37’ Danny Pretaglia pattern and does create strong backend reaction. 819 4 game series
You've missed the cut my friend.
Thanks for creating the P5000D! It is literally a game changer.
I was thinking you could use a cleaner to remove the polish carrier before taking it to the lane.
✋🏾 for the 5 pin lol. Great knowledge
I've just watched this 4 yr old video and I do see the differences, Now in 2024 how does the P5000D compare to thr Hand Applied polish powered by Turtle wax that you now have on your web site. I've been using this polish for about a month now and really like the results. I am a 70yr old low rev low speed league bowler and your polish gives me a nice reaction backend.e
Roughly how many uses can I get from my P5000d pad. They work great!!
8 to 10
@@Ctdbowling Thank you Sir!!
I use it a lot
Traditionally, a “polish” is an abrasive cutting compound, basically the same thing as a fine sandpaper. Although it does leave residue, this should be completely cleaned off after polishing. A “wax” fills the pores and minor scratches and remains on the object. I’m from the automotive painting industry, and we typically use a polish to bring the paint back to a shine after sanding it with 1500-3000 grit. Unless a bowling specific “polish” is not a true polish but a wax product, I am confused by the use of the terminology.
It's because he's intentionally misleading people to sell his own products, which are typically just rebranded products from a supplier. The pads are from a company called Joest Abrasives, and he now sells ball polish as well. Ironically, it's made by Turtle Wax - if I had to guess, it's likely their Clean Finish Polishing Compound.
So I'm new when it comes to sanding. Whether I'm using a pearl or solid, if the ball is normally designed for 2,000 or 3,000 finish, your saying use the 5,000 pad to give more power on backend? I thought maybe going the other way using a 1,000 pad might give more teeth and power? Do I have it backwards? Also I thought when a ball gets near 5,000 that it woukd be the same as being considered lane shined? Which would reduce ball power too right?
6:45 he finally admits that it’s the bowling ball carrier that impedes the ball’s performance
Lol carrier...in the polish. Thanks for pointing that out.
Good Afternoon, how often do I use these TruCut Pads, after each game or every 60 games?
Every 3 to 6 games to freshen up your ball.
If the ball is going too long at 5000 grit what would you do to make it a little sooner ? Eg. I have a Radical Conspiracy Theory that I take up to the 5000 D pad and let’s say it’s a little long.
Just got a black widow gold. Wondering, sense the factory finish is 500/1000 with powerhouse polish, if this pad would be the one to use when I resurface or if I should use a 1000 with polish. Thanks ron for another great vid.
You should use P5000D then use TruCut hand Applied Polish to get it back to the factory finish.
@@Ctdbowling okay thanks my brotha. If I use the p5000d without the polish will it be more aggressive than factory ? I see that's the case with the storm polish but what about the turtle wax. (I have access to a ball spinner)
Hammer Pink Widow is 500/1000 then powerhouse factory polish. So to resurface it should work it from 500 to 1000 to 3000 to then the P5000D pad all on the spinner?
That is correct
I always wondered why polish labels listed grit levels that the finished product grit would NOT be.
What is the actual grit of the bowling ball that is polished with the Storm Step2? Label grit says abrasive1500, but we all know that's the material grit. What about the bowling ball surface?
It scans at 5000 grit
So you are saying that the ball will scan at 5000 grit AND ALSO have the carrier liquid on the surface of the ball?
There is no way to remove the carrier liquid off the ball? Cleaner? Only scuffing the cover with a pad will remove it?
@@ricerocket702 it depends on the carrier. Most bowling ball polishes you can't get it off other than sanding it. Some are made with animal fat. Which is good for cars not so much for bowling balls. We have lots of videos showing polish bowling ball scans. They are between 5000 and 5500 mostly. Just search the channel
@@Ctdbowling
You are stating that a SANDED 5500 grit ball and a POLISHED 5500 grit ball will react differently because of the liquid carrier reside leftover on the surface of the ball.
Even though the 5500 grit scratches are the same, the surface of the ball is different?
the fact that he just hit it with the pads and now adding that doesn't seem right if he had another ball that was the same in about the same condition would make more sense I would think
Great Video
Thank you
@@Ctdbowling See you at the Military Tournament?
Very cool. This is why I refuse to let certain balls have polish on them. If I need a ball to get downlane, or for burn, I'll pick a ball that comes with polish from factory. Very rarely do I add polish do a ball that does NOT come with polish from factory, because it drastically reduces over all hook. Personally love the idea of a high grit finish without polish.
I would need proof the carrier is actually degrades performance. Uneven finish with incorrectly applied polish is a problem
Actually you can do a simple test yourself. Take a new polish ball and wipe some oil on it. Watch it absorb, then go sand to a shine. Wipe oil on it again. You will see a big difference in absorbtion.
Absorption and surface performance are 2 different things. Your stating performance degrades when grit is applied with a carrier. What I think happens with friable grit polishes is they polish unevenly, your product the pad provides superior even sanding. The 3000 grit gets the peaks shaved off to provide a even 5500 grit sanded surface. There was a course in engineering 36 years ago, but it never discussed bowling ball refinishing
I wish the pads for alittle bit bigger as when you use them by hand and not a machine the pad slips out of the hand unless there wet ....
I think they make bigger pads now
By hand?
Why aren't you using ruCut Hand Applied Polish Powered by Turtle Wax ?
This video was shot more than a year ago. Before we had TruCut Hand Applied Polish Powered by Turtle Wax.
@@Ctdbowling Thanks man I'm really interested in your products which we lack here in Kuwait or not using at all. I already purchased some of your products TruCut Polished Ball Maintenance Kit and Back to League Kit - 4 oz That Wow Factor Ball Cleaner / 6" and will ship it to Kuwait where I live and can't hardly wait to spread these products here as I'm trying to arrange with my friend in the Pro shop. Thanks Bro
I appreciate the support and thank you for watching the video.
Do I still have to put the original oob surface on it before the p5000?
If is the ball is polished OOB then no you don't.
Where abouts can I buy some CT pads for my bowling ball's
Ctdbowling.com
I need to order some Avalon pads
@@Ctdbowling
Edwinburks81@gmail.com
I’m confused, you say in the video that the P5000D pad is available October 1st, but it appears to have been in the 6 pack I ordered a few months back?
If the video is old, you should probably overlay a graphic saying the pad is available now.
That video is a year old. The pad is available now
Is this what i should do to my halo pearl to help with performance?
It is definitely an option to try
For more length yes
What are your opinions on the spoiler alert, had it for a while and want an opinion on it.
I am not a fan of that ball. If you don't like the performance start with a surface change and see if that helps.
Ok
Was thinking of purchasing that ball. What's the pros and cons?
@@1steeler4life, I would personally rate it 7/10. A pro would definitely be the core and the weight of the ball, I have the 16 pound version which is the heaviest variation, so it hits the pins really hard and gets quite a bit if pin action due to core and weight. Another pro is the hook, it hooks pretty hard when the oil is gone, it is good for light to medium oil patterns, I have also done well playing edge with the ball. A con is the surface, and another one is 10 pins, it isnt impossible but I will probobaly only hit 7/10 10 pins, so I would recommend not using it as a spare ball when it comes to even the 6 and 10 pin.
@@dontknowchaas ok thanks
talk to fast.
How many the same videos you going to make
Lol Where have you seen this video on my channel before?
1st!