As a real estate photographer…I LOVE the help AI lends via Photoshop’s “Generative Fill”. It’s a God-send. One of the worst things ever was when a house with an attached garage has a car in front of it that can’t be moved. For years trying to clone this out manually would be a multi-hour project that yielded substandard results. Those little squares on garage doors….adjusted for angular perspective and changing light…from one side of the garage door to the other was a nightmare. We are talking a 30 minute side quest……per photo. And there are 3 photos of the front of the house. In a niche that is low price and highly dependent on speed for it to pencil out as a business model. There is NOT an extra 1.5 hours to tweak 3 photos…esp when you are up at midnight and need to go to deliver the set and go to bed so you can get up at 5:30 and go to the gym. The new generative AI? It will correct it FLAWLESSLY. The first time. Every real estate photographer and architectural photographer I know LOVES this tech. It is one of the best things to hit our industry since the DSLR itself.
@@GrimdarkKing if you’re a photographer i don’t blame you for using photoshop since that’s what it was originally designed for. as an illustrator i’m in a different boat. unregulated uses of ai have had a negative impact in other fields
@@blearoyd but isn’t that like saying that the pushbutton elevator panel had negative results to thousands upon thousands of elevator ushers who used to stand in them and guide people to their floors manually? Every significant technology nukes some jobs from space and then creates more jobs of other types.
@@GrimdarkKing the difference is that there’s people currently profiting off of working artists’ labour without them seeing a single dime in royalties. it’s like if the skills of all those elevator ushers were somehow compiled into a “super” pushbutton that was then marketed as being even better than a regular pushbutton. not only are the ushers out of work but their labour is being exploited. the issue isn’t a few photoshop tools, it’s everything else surrounding AI.
Most surveillance cameras already use this technology to detect humans and animals. You can even purchase them from Amazon. Eufy's one example I can think of off the top of my head. We're cooked.
@@matmajthm3222 No AI is an established concept separate from machine learning. There are much more serious moral discussions to creating a real AI, than a neural network.
In my opinion, it's not that important, who or what made art, it's our ability to internalize a work of art (it"s themes, ideas and meanings) that makes it valuable. So AI art is as viable as human art
Thats a fair opinion as an enjoyer of art, the feelings felt or thoughts that come up are very rarely the same as the creator intended. Interpretation is the other half of expression, but problems start coming up when you ask about fair compensation/use, if these image generators didn't use human art to generate their images it wouldn't really be as big a deal besides all the ai shit posts. But I can totally understand the outrage of the people putting hard work and many hours into their projects only for it to be potentially outshined or for someone to cobble together an ai shit post and profit several times more than a real creator. The responsibility for sure falls on the companies developing these technologies, and not the shit poster. I think at this point there's no stopping whats happening, I don't see how any amount of outrage will really stop it, but I think its important, I think the work of 1000's of human creators is important, and I think fair compensation is important :P
i agree to an extent - it's not important. "art" is subjective and whether generative AI falls under that umbrella is the least pressing issue surrounding it right now. it still needs to be considered whether something made using that tech is a product of public domain material or the work of one or even several current, working artists.
I feel like something gets lost when i realize that whatever piece im looking at connects with me, not because someone actually made it, but instead its just the sample-id of a certain neural network. It just feels much more forgetable, and it wouldnt have inspired me to become an artist
Nobody gave a damn about premade characters, nobody would call their Mii a "work of art" or any other character editor avatar, it is now that shills want to undermine the efforts of countless people who don't even get the priviledge of being slaves to a shareholder that we suddenly care that a preset is a work of art, spare me the pretentiousness and admit that art means nothing unless you have a stake in the game of the failed thing we call "economy"
@@kenonerboy I like that point a lot. It's not inspiring, I know when it come to things I'm interested in it gets me hyped looking at what other people are doing, it makes me want to do my own shit.
As a real estate photographer…I LOVE the help AI lends via Photoshop’s “Generative Fill”. It’s a God-send.
One of the worst things ever was when a house with an attached garage has a car in front of it that can’t be moved. For years trying to clone this out manually would be a multi-hour project that yielded substandard results. Those little squares on garage doors….adjusted for angular perspective and changing light…from one side of the garage door to the other was a nightmare. We are talking a 30 minute side quest……per photo. And there are 3 photos of the front of the house. In a niche that is low price and highly dependent on speed for it to pencil out as a business model. There is NOT an extra 1.5 hours to tweak 3 photos…esp when you are up at midnight and need to go to deliver the set and go to bed so you can get up at 5:30 and go to the gym.
The new generative AI? It will correct it FLAWLESSLY. The first time.
Every real estate photographer and architectural photographer I know LOVES this tech. It is one of the best things to hit our industry since the DSLR itself.
@@GrimdarkKing if you’re a photographer i don’t blame you for using photoshop since that’s what it was originally designed for. as an illustrator i’m in a different boat. unregulated uses of ai have had a negative impact in other fields
@@blearoyd but isn’t that like saying that the pushbutton elevator panel had negative results to thousands upon thousands of elevator ushers who used to stand in them and guide people to their floors manually?
Every significant technology nukes some jobs from space and then creates more jobs of other types.
@@GrimdarkKing the difference is that there’s people currently profiting off of working artists’ labour without them seeing a single dime in royalties. it’s like if the skills of all those elevator ushers were somehow compiled into a “super” pushbutton that was then marketed as being even better than a regular pushbutton. not only are the ushers out of work but their labour is being exploited.
the issue isn’t a few photoshop tools, it’s everything else surrounding AI.
This is a really good perspective, I hope it gets more attention
There are no downsides to neural network systems. I see great potential in surveillance for governmental use.
Most surveillance cameras already use this technology to detect humans and animals. You can even purchase them from Amazon. Eufy's one example I can think of off the top of my head. We're cooked.
@@omnipenne9101 True, but this is just the beginning.
The day I start talking to my microwave is the day I go to therapy
conspiracy o.O O.o o.O
You can call them neural networks. Ai is what they're pursuing, not what theyve made
AI is synonymous with machine learning. Neural networks are a type of a model of machine learning.
@@matmajthm3222 No AI is an established concept separate from machine learning. There are much more serious moral discussions to creating a real AI, than a neural network.
@matmajthm3222 yea, and pretty much all the fancy ones are neural networks. Also Ai isnt synonymous with machine learning idk why you would say that.
In my opinion, it's not that important, who or what made art, it's our ability to internalize a work of art (it"s themes, ideas and meanings) that makes it valuable. So AI art is as viable as human art
Thats a fair opinion as an enjoyer of art, the feelings felt or thoughts that come up are very rarely the same as the creator intended. Interpretation is the other half of expression, but problems start coming up when you ask about fair compensation/use, if these image generators didn't use human art to generate their images it wouldn't really be as big a deal besides all the ai shit posts. But I can totally understand the outrage of the people putting hard work and many hours into their projects only for it to be potentially outshined or for someone to cobble together an ai shit post and profit several times more than a real creator. The responsibility for sure falls on the companies developing these technologies, and not the shit poster. I think at this point there's no stopping whats happening, I don't see how any amount of outrage will really stop it, but I think its important, I think the work of 1000's of human creators is important, and I think fair compensation is important :P
i agree to an extent - it's not important. "art" is subjective and whether generative AI falls under that umbrella is the least pressing issue surrounding it right now. it still needs to be considered whether something made using that tech is a product of public domain material or the work of one or even several current, working artists.
I feel like something gets lost when i realize that whatever piece im looking at connects with me, not because someone actually made it, but instead its just the sample-id of a certain neural network. It just feels much more forgetable, and it wouldnt have inspired me to become an artist
Nobody gave a damn about premade characters, nobody would call their Mii a "work of art" or any other character editor avatar, it is now that shills want to undermine the efforts of countless people who don't even get the priviledge of being slaves to a shareholder that we suddenly care that a preset is a work of art, spare me the pretentiousness and admit that art means nothing unless you have a stake in the game of the failed thing we call "economy"
@@kenonerboy I like that point a lot. It's not inspiring, I know when it come to things I'm interested in it gets me hyped looking at what other people are doing, it makes me want to do my own shit.