The rail Adventure company is German. They purchased these units for use all over Europe. Normally they are based in Munich. This particular train strated at the Stadler works in Altenrhein (Switzerland) and came through the Channel Tunnel.
The 'new' units being moved have their brakes disabled because there on-board systems are disabled (no power) To compensate the weighted flat cars and the Hblis coupling vans are used to provide train brakes. The hose through the unit window is the front to back train air brake hose passing through but not connected the new units. Most European RA trains have front/back locos for reversing moves so train or loco turning is not required.
It sounds like the rear pair of power cars were also running.. does anyone know if the brakes are through-piped or are the rear pair just on there to simplify reversing moves? Edit: ah at 02:05 we see a (brake?) pipe from the barrier vehicle going in through the cab window on the 777 unit. I think i’ve answered my own question 😁
i only know them by one name. the hs intercity125 or 4s not sure which one is right but anyhow its the first time i have seen them being used as freight locos. how odd they look without there accompanying carriages.
Warning! If you buy the Hornby model of the RA HST there are no cab end couplings. So you cannot (without modification run the locomotives back to back to train as shown in the video.
Interesting use of Class 43 power cars as a twin-unit locomotive. I have seen pictures of this before, but it seems more frequent now. Would they be allowed to pass through the Channel Tunnel under diesel power?
@@Keithbarber Most likely they'd be emptied of diesel and through using one of the Le Shuttle units or whatever they'd use to rescue them. I'm speculating of course but that would seem logical.
It's more common because most class 43 power cars have been withdrawn from passenger operations and they're available for whoever wants them, including the scrap dealers.
Seems rather overpowered with 4 locomotives assuming all 4 are powered up?I suppose that you couldn't have just two class 43's at each end as there's no way to link the locomotives although one should be ample to pull something like that.
@@ianpage2765 Remember the traction effort design principles and modern desires for A safety, B top and tail operations and C delivery of the Emu undamaged and unstressed to the customer. These sort of consists demand the braking effort delivered at the rail head and those ballast wagons each side full of concrete also demand effort to balance the the pulling and stopping power . These are in the calculations and it’s all maths and physics 101 and not simply slug a Emu behind a Class 37 and off we go .
yes on both, they are being phased out as the Class 777 are being introduced slowly into service. There are plans for a battery variant which means it might be possible in the future to travel on Merseyrail between Chester and Liverpool as well as Preston.
@@StuAnderson90 This one is the battery variant; unit 777140 seen @ 02:20. Class 777/0 are the standard replacements and class 777/1 have the enhanced battery package for running away from the third rail
The rail Adventure company is German. They purchased these units for use all over Europe. Normally they are based in Munich. This particular train strated at the Stadler works in Altenrhein (Switzerland) and came through the Channel Tunnel.
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The 'new' units being moved have their brakes disabled because there on-board systems are disabled (no power) To compensate the weighted flat cars and the Hblis coupling vans are used to provide train brakes. The hose through the unit window is the front to back train air brake hose passing through but not connected the new units. Most European RA trains have front/back locos for reversing moves so train or loco turning is not required.
I grew up in the 60s when a Black Five would be pulling new diesel units. These private railway company names are really silly.
The 43 power units look exceptionally good, but those new Merseyrail units must be the ugliest that have ever run along Britain's railways.
It sounds like the rear pair of power cars were also running.. does anyone know if the brakes are through-piped or are the rear pair just on there to simplify reversing moves?
Edit: ah at 02:05 we see a (brake?) pipe from the barrier vehicle going in through the cab window on the 777 unit. I think i’ve answered my own question 😁
i only know them by one name. the hs intercity125 or 4s not sure which one is right but anyhow its the first time i have seen them being used as freight locos. how odd they look without there accompanying carriages.
Warning! If you buy the Hornby model of the RA HST there are no cab end couplings. So you cannot (without modification run the locomotives back to back to train as shown in the video.
They're using 125's for freight and rolling stock movements now??
That just looks weird!
Class 43 power units used in this way😣😩
Interesting use of Class 43 power cars as a twin-unit locomotive. I have seen pictures of this before, but it seems more frequent now. Would they be allowed to pass through the Channel Tunnel under diesel power?
No, fire risk.
Not only a fire risk but how would they get the exhaust fumes dissipated?
@@Keithbarber Most likely they'd be emptied of diesel and through using one of the Le Shuttle units or whatever they'd use to rescue them. I'm speculating of course but that would seem logical.
@@EdgyNumber1 I think they’d use the le shuttle or maybe a battery backup loco to take them through the tunnel
It's more common because most class 43 power cars have been withdrawn from passenger operations and they're available for whoever wants them, including the scrap dealers.
are those class 43s being used as freight?
Those 197s accelerate fast!! Can't wait to see them here
What are you talking about?
@@dan_the_trainspotter8253 5:02 Class 197. Fast acceleration, important for commuter/regional trains.
And soon they should be on the Cardiff - Shrewsbury line which is the line I live on
4 class 43 locos to move a 777?
Seems rather overpowered with 4 locomotives assuming all 4 are powered up?I suppose that you couldn't have just two class 43's at each end as there's no way to link the locomotives although one should be ample to pull something like that.
Great timing.
Woow that,s a very powerfull locomotive !!
Nice bright contrasting doors for the visually impaired and a door step at knee height. ✨🤦😥
Not barrier units they are loaded with sheets of..?.could be some sort of board/steel.
I believe they're weighted (probably with concrete) for braking
@@Adam-jk5ql yes, concrete.
Ridiculous. 4 engines to move 1 unit, and why so many barrier vehicles
The EMU set has its brakes deactivated
@@keithdoherty8809 still does not need 4 locomotives
@@ianpage2765 Remember the traction effort design principles and modern desires for A safety, B top and tail operations and C delivery of the Emu undamaged and unstressed to the customer.
These sort of consists demand the braking effort delivered at the rail head and those ballast wagons each side full of concrete also demand effort to balance the the pulling and stopping power .
These are in the calculations and it’s all maths and physics 101 and not simply slug a Emu behind a Class 37 and off we go .
@@keithdoherty8809 Totally agree
These are the same desgin of the thamslink trains form london to peterebourgh
They are the new Merseyrail units, the existing 508 class are being phased out.
yes on both, they are being phased out as the Class 777 are being introduced slowly into service. There are plans for a battery variant which means it might be possible in the future to travel on Merseyrail between Chester and Liverpool as well as Preston.
@@StuAnderson90 Helsby not Chester. Chester is already on Merseyrail
The new Tyne and wear metro are starting about to start coming any time now from Switzerland
@@StuAnderson90 This one is the battery variant; unit 777140 seen @ 02:20. Class 777/0 are the standard replacements and class 777/1 have the enhanced battery package for running away from the third rail
Why so many barrier wagons?
What were those first yellow trains? Which operator will be using them?
Ye olde merseyrail