Amazing overview of China’s space tourism ambitions! 2027 feels just around the corner, and your breakdown of the roadmap was exceptionally clear. Thanks for sharing awesome updates! 👏
VT2 - Vertical Takeoff on square. 😁 No worry, great video again, thanks! As for the question: there is definitely a stable market for space tourism, especially in China. And for the request of the customers, the participants of the flight, can remain unnamed, so that's not a problem.
12 minutes of space experience is definitely short... But if they can experience circumnavigating the earth, seeing day and night in a flash, it would be awesome!
You've got the clarity on the government push for social levity. An inclusive International actuation could move the needle, in many ways, and the mainland rich could invite 'out of town' friends for their suborbital ventures, once proven. And it would cost less than full orbital insertion.
I don't think their target is "super-rich" class people. Car builders sell many thousands of USD100k sport cars of limited real utility every year. Anyone who is wealthy enough to pay for that as a crazy "once in a life time" toy, can pay for a Space experience. they only need to be wealthy space nerds instead of wealthy car nerds. You need to be quite rich but not super-rich
Seems like a big financial risk, but it's also an opportunity to develop technology with an achievable goal, to increase know-how and reputation. As per RT yesterday, the Chinese Long March 2C successfully launched four PIESAT-2 remote sensing satellites into orbit, from China’s Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. Will you be talking about this kind of projects?
The space travel industry is almost non-commercial now, and it will take a long time for the ecological development to develop. It needs more capital investment, professional personnel training and service support, and more manufacturers, companies and industries to grow and develop.
Hey Jose, if I can find an interesting angle for the Piesat-2 launch (perhaps SAR satellites in general), this could a topic for a future video 🤔 About the financial risk, I fully agree, especially since Deep Blue Aerospace still needs a lot of funding to develop their heavier Nebula-2 rocket.
@@DongfangHouran interesting topic would be the sensors China has put in orbit or on space probes (SAR, IR, visible, multispectral, hyperspectral, slow neutrons for ice detection, etc). That might be too broad a category and drift too far away from rocket tech and more into satellite tech, but your audience might like it.
Looking for a better business plan than just launching millionaires into space … could this lead to offering a crew dragon type service? (I.e. transporting astronauts and tourists to China’s space station). Or will the government want to keep that part of space business in house?
There is propably a marked but not a big one. The companies would probably make a lot of money if they also ran a kind of lottery in which you win a flight into space instead of a few million
Interesting; don’t be surprised if they do that, if only to stimulate (hype?!) market interest originally. Or, work with advertisers for some popular, non-space brands somehow - in catalogs of luxury products, whatever. Their marketing folks will have plenty of incentive to get innovative. PLUS: there is the non-Chinese rocket as well. The first target of such appeals or advertising: Countries that have already signed on to China’s ILRS lunar program (showing that nation’s space interest). Having a couple of rich folks from each of those countries flying on a Chinese suborbital - in addition of, or, maybe, instead of, a US suborbital- would be painted as quite a coup, and something the PRC government would undoubtedly support. - Dave Huntsman
Good report; and thanks for flipping for the graphics- they help! Can’t really make an intelligent comment about internal-Chinese market prospects; as you imply, the money is clearly there, and it would only take a sliver of potential demand to feed one or two two players; still…….. Your point about Deep Blue biting off more than it can produce - at least on its own- is spot on, in my view; they’d need a Partner that brings the more “payload” - oriented expertise - as well as hopefully some yuan- to the table; as I think you also (indirectly) imply might or should (!) happen. Not sure the companies working on orbital commercial cargo services would necessarily have a leg up on that, tho, even if better capitalized and supported. if we use the US as an example- and it may Not be appropriate to do so- SpaceX and Orbital Sciences winning COTS/CRS (Commercial Orbital Transportation Services/Commercial Resupply Services) et al didn’t lead them to compete suborbitally at all. // All in all, lots happening in China with reusable space vehicle development- in a way, more than in the US, in terms of number of new starts. Thanks for covering it so well. - Dave Huntsman
Always a pleasure to read your insightful comments, Dave 🙂 Interesting point about none of the COTS/CRS companies going for suborbital applications. This suggests that adapting orbital spacecraft for suborbital use would require major modifications, possibly amounting to designing a new spacecraft. And with a potentially more limited business case compared to cargo/crew transportation.
A capsule carrying six humans at speeds of 16,000kmph, in a ballistic trajectory, to altitudes of up to 100kms to get into Space, and back to Earth again, safely, requires it to be shaped like a bullet: ballistic capsule designers have no choice in design. Unfortunately, SpaceX Fanboys are blinded by both their devoteeism and misguided nationalism to see this. Thank you, DongFang Hour, for another thoroughly well researched report. Hello from New Zealand. (Subscribed...but not devoted...) 🚀🇨🇳🇨🇦📡🌏👋👤🇳🇿🦎🌴☀️🌊
calling a rocket, even a reusable one "vertical takeoff vertical landing" is like calling an airliner a monoplane, its technically correct but not really necessary
VTVL is commonly used term used in Chinese aerospace industry writing. It's similar to VTOL (Vertical TakeOff/Landing) .. The emphasis for both being the vertical "landing" and reusability part. By/In the 2030's landings will become common and likely will just be called rockets. (火箭, huǒjiàn)
I believe it's because in Chinese "space" translates as 航天, but the literal translation of those two characters is "aerospace". This is why many Chinese space companies have "aerospace" in their names. For example, for China's main space conglomerate CASC: China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation.
not really competing with orbital flights, one cost tens of millions per person, the other is hundred thousand. both has issues with actual market, but since the chinese market is not reachable by the usa and other providers, even just a one to one copy could work, if they do better at any part (cost is an easy option), than they might get enough costumer. also a potential middle step with some utility for a later orbital version.
Copied? You mean, someone in China has copied our Elons brilliant idea of using a steel frame tower to launch rockets? Ahh, but that's not all, Rexona! Apparently, someone in China is claiming that it was China that invented the Rocket; when we SpaceX Fanboys all know that Elon Musk invented the Rocket ...and computers...and the InterNet... and Apartheid...and Viagra...and Beef Wellington ...and Eminem...and Zyklon B. We DO have a lot to thank Elon Musk for, don't we, Rexona! No wonder Elon is so cross (X). Poor fellow; what will they steal from him next...
If each of those billionaires took 5 of their workers with them I am sure the party would oblige that. In fact that's probably just a great way to promote "common prosperity" anyway for them.
I don't take a saguine view of Deep Blue' space tour plan to be realized in 2026. Since this company has only one product in development: Nebula-1 (or Xingyun-1), and the highest altitude it reach until now is only about 3000 meters during its failed VTVL test, while its competitor Landspace's VTVL prototype already flew to 10 km and succeed in landing. Its payload capacity is the lowest among the reusable rockets among Chinese private companies, and additionally, the propaganda and advertisement of this company was far more pompous. So I would rather trust Galatic Energy, CAS space, Oriental Space etc. if they advertise their space tour plan. Of course, I don' t mean Deep Blue will never succeed in space tourism, but maybe more time is needed.
@@soheiladam7510 You can watch the video of the 10 km VTVL tests of SAST and Landspace, and compare with Deep Blue's VTVL test video, then you will find out the difference, it's firmly that the Nebula-1 prototype did not reach 10 km altitude. I mean, their engineers who build rockets are working hard, but their propaganda department is habitatual to exaggerating.
2 tons is the capacity to LEO (orbital velocity). For suborbital flights, the payload needs much less velocity and therefore you can add more load to the rocket
It's going to be a grand slam. The first man in the moon is Chinese. The first woman in the moon is Chinese. The first pernament colony on the moon is Chinese. The first baby born on the moon is Chinese. The first flag planted in Martian soil will be red with the 5 stars.
Eh, no. With Musk in the US government, basically SpaceX can go to the Moon or Mars with or without NASA, since Musk will be part of the US government itself.
Interesting viewpoint. I think you are correct about them being the first to go back to the Moon. It's essentially an Apollo mission spending less than a day on the surface. Remarkable nonetheless. Artemis by the US is a bit of a mish mash kind of endeavour. It will be held up by Starship not being ready and it's ridiculous fuel requirements. The US are very likely to be the first to make any kind of base using Starships in about a decade. I'm sure the Chinese will be going to the moon for the glory of China, not for all mankind like Apollo. It is now time for exploitation, possession, legal agreements and treaties for the Moon. Flag planting and possession are likely to be nine-tenths of the law as usual. China wants the South Pole.
@@SeanPan-it3jm The American Space Shuttle launched 135 times, and had only one actual launch failure. The second lost shuttle occurred during reentry, due to failure of tile shielding. (not a failure mode that a suborbital launch would experience)
Don't really get why you would pay so much to be in microgravity for five minutes, and i'm a nerd for space exploration. I don't think theres any business case for it.
5 minutes is just the peak proof of alpha status which is worth millions, are all the years of bragging and schmoozing with elites and other sub alphas after that lol
In my opinion, neither poverty nor super rich people should prosper. There should be equality between people to some extent. At least I hope that China will not be like the USA and will take care of its citizens e.g. through taxation.
Copying Bezos is a dead-end. Better to have gone with SpaceX's model. After all these decades, Bezos still haven't reached orbit. He's a dilettante and not serious.
It's not easy to make a reusable rocket like spacex. However, chinese rocket company can produce far cheaper non-reusable rocket because their country have cheaper labor, cheap materials, low tax and without American bureaucracy like FAA, senate hearing, lawsuit and etc.
new glenn reusable 45 ton to LEO heavy lift just a few months from launch so will beat all the chinese competitors in reusability with a much bigger rocket than any of them
Who told you that China copied Bezos and space x or anything? How long has space x's moon landing contract expired? 🤣 China Aerospace has a complete technological ecological closed loop🧠
Bezos just inaugurated his next "New Sheppard" tourist spacecraft, And maybe this year "New Glenn" orbital reusable rocket will have its first test flight.
Cautious disagree on the suborbital tourism part on the overly display of wealth - the display of wealth not just depends on total value of the service provided, but also the meaning or necessity, and what that implies for China. For example, buying a flat in the urban area is not counted as flaunting of wealth, but buying a handbag that has nothing but losing money to the European snobby nobility count, despite the former can easily make people spend 100x than the latter. Likewise for buying indigenous designed indigenous made Chinese supercars compared to buying European luxury cars. Likewise is on people's attitude on smoking and tourism, where the people know that the former is unhealthy, but sure as hell that most of the profit would be put into country development, compared to going to mid tourist trap and spend a day doing nothing nor able to relax. Reminder that KMT was so corrupt that it forced the few Chinese capitalists/industrialists to stay neutral or even outright backing CPC during the final stages of the civil war, and the party is China first, and Communism second this but unironically, where the latter is just a means to rescue China from the century of humiliation.
Besides the concern over being too conspicuous with their wealth, I think the Chinese don't have the same attitude about space flight. People in America remember with fondness the Apollo days of people going to the moon. I don't think Chinese people have the same irrational desire to be "Astronauts" (even if it's kind a a pretend astronaut) as Americans. I don't think the Chinese place the same cultural importance on space travel as Americans. So this will limit the number of local (i.e. Chinese) customers for these space tourism ventures. As you suggest, I think Americans (and other westerners) will be willing to pay more to fly with the costlier but more mature (i.e. western) space tourism companies.
The Chinese want to go to the moon and that will definitely be exploited for propaganda purposes. If you could do something similar as a private individual, there would probably be more interest than there is currently
Space flight is an exciting aspect of space exploration, but it serves a limited role at the current stage in my view. The Chinese approach is more practical, emphasizing that the space industry must generate profits to be sustainable, so Chinese are interested in projects like Orbital Solar Farms. These are Chinese approaches...
@@gliang9406 I don't think flying tourists to space is a practical use of resources. There are lots of interesting and useful space projects going on right now. Communication satellites like Starlink is a project with a lot of potential. I'm sure the Chinese have lots of interesting and practical projects planned. Personally, I'm not convinced putting solar farms in space is a practical application but it would be great if they proved me wrong.
@@ddegn If it ends up being anything like Blue Origin's New Shepard, then it also has the use of an advanced & reusable scientific sounding rocket with protected & recoverable payloads. Something like that is very helpful.
Why does china copy the LOOK of american & russian rockets/spacecrafts so much? from the Falcon 9s to the Starship architecture, to even this. Even though they might function differently internally, why do they like to copy the look ? This isn't the case of reinventing the wheel. There are hundreds of potential and suitable aerodynamic outer mold geometries.
There is only so many ways you can design something defined by the laws of physics; and when the USA/Russia/EU designed them first it only makes sense the following designs will look similar even if they have subtle differences. China sees stuff that works, and uses that as the starting point; they bought a bunch of USSR/Russia space equipment & tech in 1996, and then updated & stretched those designs for their first generation of crew spacecraft & stations, with their 1st Gen "copies" being far better than what Russia has flying now lol.
It’s a sign they haven’t actually tried to build the vehicle yet, so they just use a picture of “something that works” for their promotional materials. When they actually try to engineer something to meet their requirements it will end up looking different by necessity.
Amazing overview of China’s space tourism ambitions! 2027 feels just around the corner, and your breakdown of the roadmap was exceptionally clear. Thanks for sharing awesome updates! 👏
perfect video!!!! Keep active and provide us with good videos!
Thank you for the update🙏👍🙏
Thanks for the update !
There is a small typo at 0:44 --> VTVL stands for Vertical Takeoff Vertical Landing (not Vertical Takeoff Vertical Takeoff 😅)
That's a very valuable and important difference!
VT2 - Vertical Takeoff on square. 😁
No worry, great video again, thanks!
As for the question: there is definitely a stable market for space tourism, especially in China. And for the request of the customers, the participants of the flight, can remain unnamed, so that's not a problem.
VT/VL (NOT Very Typical/Very Lackadaisical). All is forgiven!
@@jeechun Squared peg you are not, by Jeechun! You'll fit in a round hole, I'm sure!
Thank you for the coverage. Not easy to find complete china space news.
Nice Chinese from Tanzania watching ❤
12 minutes of space experience is definitely short...
But if they can experience circumnavigating the earth, seeing day and night in a flash, it would be awesome!
For sure. Wish I could experience it myself some day!
And only 3 minutes of weightlessness.
Great content as always!
If they sell it to almost everyone on earth, at that price point, yeah they'd have customers.
yah... let's ban using their stolen technology. Country of thieves
thanks for the quality updates, jean
Good and great news from your side.
You've got the clarity on the government push for social levity. An inclusive International actuation could move the needle, in many ways, and the mainland rich could invite 'out of town' friends for their suborbital ventures, once proven. And it would cost less than full orbital insertion.
I don't think their target is "super-rich" class people. Car builders sell many thousands of USD100k sport cars of limited real utility every year. Anyone who is wealthy enough to pay for that as a crazy "once in a life time" toy, can pay for a Space experience. they only need to be wealthy space nerds instead of wealthy car nerds. You need to be quite rich but not super-rich
Seems like a big financial risk, but it's also an opportunity to develop technology with an achievable goal, to increase know-how and reputation.
As per RT yesterday, the Chinese Long March 2C successfully launched four PIESAT-2 remote sensing satellites into orbit, from China’s Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. Will you be talking about this kind of projects?
The space travel industry is almost non-commercial now, and it will take a long time for the ecological development to develop. It needs more capital investment, professional personnel training and service support, and more manufacturers, companies and industries to grow and develop.
Hey Jose, if I can find an interesting angle for the Piesat-2 launch (perhaps SAR satellites in general), this could a topic for a future video 🤔
About the financial risk, I fully agree, especially since Deep Blue Aerospace still needs a lot of funding to develop their heavier Nebula-2 rocket.
@@DongfangHour Thanks for your comment!
@@UCt6PXDm-iFNvvc6t5r1YCgQ Yep, still very early stages for space travel, like it was for air travel, over a century ago.
@@DongfangHouran interesting topic would be the sensors China has put in orbit or on space probes (SAR, IR, visible, multispectral, hyperspectral, slow neutrons for ice detection, etc). That might be too broad a category and drift too far away from rocket tech and more into satellite tech, but your audience might like it.
Maybe the point of the space tourism thing by china is to make it cheap enough so that the average mid income family can take a space trip?
Looking for a better business plan than just launching millionaires into space … could this lead to offering a crew dragon type service? (I.e. transporting astronauts and tourists to China’s space station). Or will the government want to keep that part of space business in house?
good report.
Brics can be a part of this clients, a lot of countrys beyond China will buyng flight in this things!
For the Space Tourist comes along the infrastructure, I wonder what town or smaller city could benefit the enterprise.
Thank you very much!
There is propably a marked but not a big one. The companies would probably make a lot of money if they also ran a kind of lottery in which you win a flight into space instead of a few million
Interesting; don’t be surprised if they do that, if only to stimulate (hype?!) market interest originally. Or, work with advertisers for some popular, non-space brands somehow - in catalogs of luxury products, whatever. Their marketing folks will have plenty of incentive to get innovative. PLUS: there is the non-Chinese rocket as well. The first target of such appeals or advertising: Countries that have already signed on to China’s ILRS lunar program (showing that nation’s space interest). Having a couple of rich folks from each of those countries flying on a Chinese suborbital - in addition of, or, maybe, instead of, a US suborbital- would be painted as quite a coup, and something the PRC government would undoubtedly support. - Dave Huntsman
Good report; and thanks for flipping for the graphics- they help! Can’t really make an intelligent comment about internal-Chinese market prospects; as you imply, the money is clearly there, and it would only take a sliver of potential demand to feed one or two two players; still…….. Your point about Deep Blue biting off more than it can produce - at least on its own- is spot on, in my view; they’d need a Partner that brings the more “payload” - oriented expertise - as well as hopefully some yuan- to the table; as I think you also (indirectly) imply might or should (!) happen. Not sure the companies working on orbital commercial cargo services would necessarily have a leg up on that, tho, even if better capitalized and supported. if we use the US as an example- and it may Not be appropriate to do so- SpaceX and Orbital Sciences winning COTS/CRS (Commercial Orbital Transportation Services/Commercial Resupply Services) et al didn’t lead them to compete suborbitally at all. // All in all, lots happening in China with reusable space vehicle development- in a way, more than in the US, in terms of number of new starts. Thanks for covering it so well. - Dave Huntsman
Always a pleasure to read your insightful comments, Dave 🙂 Interesting point about none of the COTS/CRS companies going for suborbital applications. This suggests that adapting orbital spacecraft for suborbital use would require major modifications, possibly amounting to designing a new spacecraft. And with a potentially more limited business case compared to cargo/crew transportation.
A capsule carrying six humans at speeds of 16,000kmph, in a ballistic trajectory, to altitudes of up to 100kms to get into Space, and back to Earth again, safely, requires it to be shaped like a bullet: ballistic capsule designers have no choice in design.
Unfortunately, SpaceX Fanboys are blinded by both their devoteeism and misguided nationalism to see this.
Thank you, DongFang Hour, for another thoroughly well researched report. Hello from New Zealand.
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Should be docking with Tiengong station for few days before heading back to earth. Tiengong should have a visitor module.
It's to have a youtuber that tackels China's space sector.
Tofu Dreg rocket?
calling a rocket, even a reusable one "vertical takeoff vertical landing" is like calling an airliner a monoplane, its technically correct but not really necessary
VTVL is commonly used term used in Chinese aerospace industry writing. It's similar to VTOL (Vertical TakeOff/Landing) .. The emphasis for both being the vertical "landing" and reusability part. By/In the 2030's landings will become common and likely will just be called rockets. (火箭, huǒjiàn)
why call the company "air space" if you aim to go to space. Air is not the medium
I believe it's because in Chinese "space" translates as 航天, but the literal translation of those two characters is "aerospace". This is why many Chinese space companies have "aerospace" in their names.
For example, for China's main space conglomerate CASC: China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation.
Why would China copy a losing concept?
not really competing with orbital flights, one cost tens of millions per person, the other is hundred thousand. both has issues with actual market, but since the chinese market is not reachable by the usa and other providers, even just a one to one copy could work, if they do better at any part (cost is an easy option), than they might get enough costumer.
also a potential middle step with some utility for a later orbital version.
The best space Technology from China 👏👏👏🇨🇳
Stolen space technology 🇨🇳
£200K in 20 years will be £5k. As technology improves costs can be reduced.
I have seen yesterday that allegedly Chinese copied the starship tower? Is that true? If so, would be great to make a video about it
Copied? You mean, someone in China has copied our Elons brilliant idea of using a steel frame tower to launch rockets?
Ahh, but that's not all, Rexona!
Apparently, someone in China is claiming that it was China that invented the Rocket; when we SpaceX Fanboys all know that Elon Musk invented the Rocket
...and computers...and the InterNet... and Apartheid...and Viagra...and Beef Wellington
...and Eminem...and Zyklon B.
We DO have a lot to thank Elon Musk for, don't we, Rexona!
No wonder Elon is so cross (X). Poor fellow; what will they steal from him next...
Western media say?
China has so far preferred the cable method of capturing rockets
Western media say? China has so far preferred the cable method of capturing rockets
God bless CHINA AND ITS ALL CHINESE
God bless all your families too😊😊
Their Communist they don’t believe in God 🇨🇳
How well do you try to copy US approach? China : Yes
If each of those billionaires took 5 of their workers with them I am sure the party would oblige that. In fact that's probably just a great way to promote "common prosperity" anyway for them.
I don't take a saguine view of Deep Blue' space tour plan to be realized in 2026. Since this company has only one product in development: Nebula-1 (or Xingyun-1), and the highest altitude it reach until now is only about 3000 meters during its failed VTVL test, while its competitor Landspace's VTVL prototype already flew to 10 km and succeed in landing. Its payload capacity is the lowest among the reusable rockets among Chinese private companies, and additionally, the propaganda and advertisement of this company was far more pompous. So I would rather trust Galatic Energy, CAS space, Oriental Space etc. if they advertise their space tour plan. Of course, I don' t mean Deep Blue will never succeed in space tourism, but maybe more time is needed.
they reached 10km too not 3000 meters, get your facts right.
@@soheiladam7510 You can watch the video of the 10 km VTVL tests of SAST and Landspace, and compare with Deep Blue's VTVL test video, then you will find out the difference, it's firmly that the Nebula-1 prototype did not reach 10 km altitude. I mean, their engineers who build rockets are working hard, but their propaganda department is habitatual to exaggerating.
@@lyri-kyunero well they did reach it, you're the one who's spreading propaganda claiming they only reached 3000m which is wrong.
They should start copying spacex.
Dont think that China will subvert its own scientifically future driven space program to US Disneyland model!
The capsule weighs 7.5 tonnes, while the booster can only lift 2 tonnes????
2 tons is the capacity to LEO (orbital velocity). For suborbital flights, the payload needs much less velocity and therefore you can add more load to the rocket
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It's going to be a grand slam.
The first man in the moon is Chinese.
The first woman in the moon is Chinese.
The first pernament colony on the moon is Chinese.
The first baby born on the moon is Chinese.
The first flag planted in Martian soil will be red with the 5 stars.
Eh, no.
With Musk in the US government, basically SpaceX can go to the Moon or Mars with or without NASA, since Musk will be part of the US government itself.
you want to be "on" the moon not "in" the moon. but getting in the moon via failed landing is easier than being on the moon.
Interesting viewpoint. I think you are correct about them being the first to go back to the Moon. It's essentially an Apollo mission spending less than a day on the surface. Remarkable nonetheless.
Artemis by the US is a bit of a mish mash kind of endeavour. It will be held up by Starship not being ready and it's ridiculous fuel requirements.
The US are very likely to be the first to make any kind of base using Starships in about a decade. I'm sure the Chinese will be going to the moon for the glory of China, not for all mankind like Apollo.
It is now time for exploitation, possession, legal agreements and treaties for the Moon. Flag planting and possession are likely to be nine-tenths of the law as usual. China wants the South Pole.
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I wish they offered orbital tours.
All they would have to do is take a 4 seat capsule up for maybe 4 hours of weightlessness.
Hopefully, no xbox controls used to pilot the craft. 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Instead of blast off, taking off from runway of airport seemed safer
Negatron. You haven’t run the numbers, my son!- Dave Huntsman
@@dphuntsman Blasting off will face failure rate of once every 30 launches. It happened twice to American space shuttle.
@@SeanPan-it3jm I know; I was there, on console in Mission Control in Houston when it happened. - Dave Huntsman
@@SeanPan-it3jm The American Space Shuttle launched 135 times, and had only one actual launch failure. The second lost shuttle occurred during reentry, due to failure of tile shielding. (not a failure mode that a suborbital launch would experience)
Chinese can’t even build a commercial jet liner that can compete against Europe or the USA .
your microphone is too sharp and wet :( i cant listen because misophonia
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@@chasin699 some people are really bothered by specific sounds, its a brain thing
Stick some wet wipes in your ears....
they're copying dr. evil's shlong rocket 💀
Don't really get why you would pay so much to be in microgravity for five minutes, and i'm a nerd for space exploration. I don't think theres any business case for it.
5 minutes is just the peak proof of alpha status which is worth millions, are all the years of bragging and schmoozing with elites and other sub alphas after that lol
I think it would appeal to a much wider audience if prices for this kind of experience dropped below $50,000.
3 minutes, according to their literature.
This type of tourism is silly to me.
Not when you have the money.
In my opinion, neither poverty nor super rich people should prosper. There should be equality between people to some extent. At least I hope that China will not be like the USA and will take care of its citizens e.g. through taxation.
I Ain't getting in it, if you were to give me a million dollars.
I don't think this business model will succeed. They should focus their r&d on heavy lift reusable rockets.
if i trust it i will empty my accounts, write my will and buy a ticket.
No one is riding a MiC junk rocket. Invest now! 🤦♂️
Copying Bezos is a dead-end. Better to have gone with SpaceX's model. After all these decades, Bezos still haven't reached orbit. He's a dilettante and not serious.
It's not easy to make a reusable rocket like spacex. However, chinese rocket company can produce far cheaper non-reusable rocket because their country have cheaper labor, cheap materials, low tax and without American bureaucracy like FAA, senate hearing, lawsuit and etc.
new glenn reusable 45 ton to LEO heavy lift just a few months from launch so will beat all the chinese competitors in reusability with a much bigger rocket than any of them
Not 'copying', more like mimicing
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Who told you that China copied Bezos and space x or anything? How long has space x's moon landing contract expired? 🤣 China Aerospace has a complete technological ecological closed loop🧠
Bezos fallen behind again 😂😂😂
Bezos just inaugurated his next "New Sheppard" tourist spacecraft, And maybe this year "New Glenn" orbital reusable rocket will have its first test flight.
. It is funded by
Cautious disagree on the suborbital tourism part on the overly display of wealth - the display of wealth not just depends on total value of the service provided, but also the meaning or necessity, and what that implies for China. For example, buying a flat in the urban area is not counted as flaunting of wealth, but buying a handbag that has nothing but losing money to the European snobby nobility count, despite the former can easily make people spend 100x than the latter. Likewise for buying indigenous designed indigenous made Chinese supercars compared to buying European luxury cars.
Likewise is on people's attitude on smoking and tourism, where the people know that the former is unhealthy, but sure as hell that most of the profit would be put into country development, compared to going to mid tourist trap and spend a day doing nothing nor able to relax.
Reminder that KMT was so corrupt that it forced the few Chinese capitalists/industrialists to stay neutral or even outright backing CPC during the final stages of the civil war, and the party is China first, and Communism second this but unironically, where the latter is just a means to rescue China from the century of humiliation.
Besides the concern over being too conspicuous with their wealth, I think the Chinese don't have the same attitude about space flight. People in America remember with fondness the Apollo days of people going to the moon. I don't think Chinese people have the same irrational desire to be "Astronauts" (even if it's kind a a pretend astronaut) as Americans.
I don't think the Chinese place the same cultural importance on space travel as Americans.
So this will limit the number of local (i.e. Chinese) customers for these space tourism ventures. As you suggest, I think Americans (and other westerners) will be willing to pay more to fly with the costlier but more mature (i.e. western) space tourism companies.
The Chinese want to go to the moon and that will definitely be exploited for propaganda purposes. If you could do something similar as a private individual, there would probably be more interest than there is currently
Space flight is an exciting aspect of space exploration, but it serves a limited role at the current stage in my view. The Chinese approach is more practical, emphasizing that the space industry must generate profits to be sustainable, so Chinese are interested in projects like Orbital Solar Farms. These are Chinese approaches...
@@gliang9406 I don't think flying tourists to space is a practical use of resources. There are lots of interesting and useful space projects going on right now. Communication satellites like Starlink is a project with a lot of potential.
I'm sure the Chinese have lots of interesting and practical projects planned. Personally, I'm not convinced putting solar farms in space is a practical application but it would be great if they proved me wrong.
@@ddegn If it ends up being anything like Blue Origin's New Shepard, then it also has the use of an advanced & reusable scientific sounding rocket with protected & recoverable payloads. Something like that is very helpful.
@@dalel3608 "Something like that is very helpful."
Good point. Thanks.
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Why does china copy the LOOK of american & russian rockets/spacecrafts so much? from the Falcon 9s to the Starship architecture, to even this. Even though they might function differently internally, why do they like to copy the look ? This isn't the case of reinventing the wheel. There are hundreds of potential and suitable aerodynamic outer mold geometries.
There is only so many ways you can design something defined by the laws of physics; and when the USA/Russia/EU designed them first it only makes sense the following designs will look similar even if they have subtle differences. China sees stuff that works, and uses that as the starting point; they bought a bunch of USSR/Russia space equipment & tech in 1996, and then updated & stretched those designs for their first generation of crew spacecraft & stations, with their 1st Gen "copies" being far better than what Russia has flying now lol.
You can also plagiarize, so your country will definitely give you a lot of rewards.
It’s a sign they haven’t actually tried to build the vehicle yet, so they just use a picture of “something that works” for their promotional materials. When they actually try to engineer something to meet their requirements it will end up looking different by necessity.
To attract American customers...anything too novel would upset their little brains😂
@@dalel3608Yes, America did the same with Dr Brauns designs and ideas from the Third Reich space programme.😊