The Obsession with Female Rage in Media
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"Men look at women. Women watch themselves being looked at." this...
Is false.
@@IkesPimpHand what makes you think you can judge this?
@@verenasantl962 what makes you think you can stop me?
I would say it’s becoming more relatable for man as well the idea you’re the “main character” is something that envelops man I think even more than woman
@@IkesPimpHand what's their to stop? A wet napkin?
It'd be nice if Black women were allowed to express female rage without being demonized or dismissed as "stereotypes" in media.
Victim pose. Usual.
@@linap5832 😐
@@linap5832 Way to prove her point.
You certainly don't help yourselves
@Artair Yes...because we're all a monolith. How magnanimous of you. 🙄
It’s so weird that black women are expected to be angry and sassy but we’re also demonized and dehumanized for it, and when we’re soft spoken and shy we’re told we’re acting “white” and that we don’t act like a real black girl. Like what am I supposed to do atp
LORD OF DARKNESS
Have you seen the movie death proof? have you seen the movie Queen of the d*mned? have you seen the movie vamp 1986?
It's not a matter of race it's a matter of movie selection you just have to broaden your horizon and choices.
There's a lot out there and those are the first 3 that came to my mind. The 1980s though is the best place to start because that's where all of the angry feminine rage films are at. ❤
What about the movie "Us"? Thats one of my favorites. ❤
Do what the f you want jeez you have issues
As a BM who has also been accused of "acting white", the solution is simple:
Be white.
The fact that tomie was created by the fear of women(beauty, manipulation, anger. Etc) and men still fantasize her
If you're trying to push that old trope "Men are masochistic and like women to hurt them, so it's okay (even good) to hurt men" then please peddle that 💩elsewhere. Because that's the same as saying "because women have 'rape-fantasies', it makes it okay to rape women". Both are bull💩 but the former seems to be accepted as "fact", while the latter does not.
Lastly, the so-called *"female rage"* film is just an excuse for women's porn. Wherein things like "The mAlE gAzE" is used as an excuse for female "protagonists" to torture men (often in a sexual manner) beat the 💩 out of men, sexually degrade men, dehumanize men and rice, slice & dice men all for a sexualized female power-fantasy. Women who consume these films are nearly always misandrists who are sexually aroused by things like tying men up and mutilating them (notice the woman *ALWAYS* goes for the man's dick in these situations) and always there's some "justification" or excuses made as to why it's "okay" for these women to do horrendous things to men. These female "protagonists" are nearly always portrayed as heroic and just, while male characters that harm women (for whatever reason) are *ALWAYS* portrayed as the "villain". Now why do you think that is, hmmm?
And the fact that I *WILL* be attacked for daring to voice such "blasphemy" will prove my point.
Junji Ito made this manga very well and Tomie's character is explained.
Tomie was a usual girl until one day she discovered she's not human and she can never die. She gains popularity quickly but every man she meets does very, very bad things to her. She was tortured and killed many times, imagine what's like to experience such pain and not even receiving proper death. Tomie started hating men and became very sociopathic because everyone around her treated her like a garbage. Only few people treated Tomie with true kindness but Tomie cannot believe them since she wants humanity to be destroyed. Tomie manipulates men and kills them because it's what men did with her and she pays the same.
"Tomie" manga for me is a good example how horrible humans can be and how young and specially beautiful girls are abused by men every day. Tomie is not a personification of gynophobia, she's a personification of rage and want of revenge for all the suffering she had experienced. She would be completely normal if the male centric society didn't abuse her.
OMG MY MOM USED TO WATCH YOUR SHOW HIIII
just goes on to show how smart they are
Tomie isn't 'unsual girl until one day she discovers she can't die'. She was a highschool girl who was groomed and got pregnant from her teacher. Upon hearing this, she was beaten by her boyfriend and falls to her death where her teacher decides to cut her up to several pieces and gave one to each on his students and they all remained silent. That is until she joined them in class the next day. Every part of her body can regenerate into a new Tomie. She is a perfect depiction on how a victim became the predator. Also, all her death stories are based on real crimes committed against women. Just like how women are blamed for their crimes, Tomie is always blamed for the men killing her "I just loved her too much" , "she made me do it" , "it wasn't my fault, it's hers" etc. Both women and men and even the readers equally blame her for her death.
The way feminine rage is also fetishized and praised but only for white women. There’s so many racial stereotypes about “fiery latinas” and “angry black women” that anger from non-white women is simply expected. The way female rage is perpetrated onscreen is entirely from a white perspective. If we were to see a movie with black female rage or just non-white female rage, would it even register as feminine in nature? Of course it is feminine, but does it fit in with the general themes we see in these movies? Just thinking out loud. Very cool video, thank you for making it and giving me another thing to think about in the endless journey of being a women in a “society”.
Well I made that comment literally right before I watched that part of your video. Lol
I was wondering if you made it to that point in the video haha! Yes it is definitely important to acknowledge the intersections of identity and how that impacts our experiences as women, as we are of course not a monolith. I completely agree with your comment! ☺️
Yep, pretty much. When a white woman acts angry she's badass, empowered and relatable. When a POC woman does it, we're just being crazy, difficult and dramatic.
Why do so many ppl keep making the mistakes to write "women" when they mean "woman". what's ur first language? 😭
Diary of a mad Black women
Society tends to see female rage as being separate from intelligence. If she expresses rage, she's deemed as crazy or unstable. Rather than seeing that women too can have perfectly logical reasons to exhibit rage. Meanwhile bottling up anger is seen as intelligent and collected for women
In all fairness, males expressing rage is not a good thing in its own right. It's often very destructive and harmful of innocent people. Why would other women want that for themselves is beyond me.
@@MegaMilencheexactly
@@MegaMilenche that’s what I was thinking
@@MegaMilenche it’s not even that, rage or anger can be expressed in non destructive ways. It just seems that women aren’t even allowed to draw boundaries or even express irritation without being called a bitch. While when men are assertive, they’re called assertive. Look at the attitude between male bosses vs female bosses
@@stripedpolkadots8692 Just who are this people who say ashole men are assertive?
I found that I couldnt relate to this because I'm black . I have no problem expressing anger BUT I have to toe the line. We can be angry but not too angry...otherwise you're the angry black girl. I do love female rage movies/books. When I heard about Gone Girl, when it came out, I immediately bought it because I love a female villain. We need more unlikable female character....and perhaps some who are not white.
Yess I agree completely! I talk about this closer to the end of the video. I hope we can see a rise in the depiction of rage in women of varying intersections, not just conventionally attractive white women holding a knife.
@@FinalGirlStudios lol I paused the video for a meeting. I'm sure i'll get to that part soon.
Idk if it fits that much into female rage,but there's a really good horror movie called bones and all that came out recently.The main character is a cannibal black girl and there's a lot of deep dives into her mind and emotions,highly recommend it
The 90's sitcom Moesha allowed Moesha to be a spoiled brat instead of making her be a perfect model minority. That was pretty cool in retrospect.
It makes me wonder how many people turned off the video when it came to the 3 minute Black women section...at the end.
It’s funny that male anger isn’t considered dangerous, even though it’s usually quite the opposite. How often do women go out of their way to not provoke men’s anger. I think female rage is considered dangerous because it’s a silent way of acknowledging that men’s rage is also dangerous too. Men are afraid that women will do the same horrific things they do when they do to us.
I’ve been in quite a few abusive relationships with women I can tell you women will do a lot to provoke a man’s anger for the smallest of reasons
How is ''male anger'' not considered dangerous? How many ''angry men'' get shot immediately at legal confrontations while ''angry women'' just get restrained?
@@savage7882 -- Yes. *THANK* you!
what are you on about?
Society at large looks at man as disgusting monsters, rapists and pedophiles.
we are always perceived as a threat by women who don't know us, even other men perceive each other as threats, the only difference between men and women is that men have the confidence, be it real or misplaced, that they can protect themselves against another man. the majority of guys I know, get anxiety when they are out and about late at night and a women is anywhere near them, because they don't want to make her feel scared or unsafe.
I know several women personally who say women generalizing every man as a threat, because they can't tell the good from the bad is okay, because it's for their own protection.
if someone told you to visualize any kind of criminal, who has done any kind of crime. 9 out of 10 times you will have made that made up criminal a man.
This exactly, they will try to manipulate people into not believing this, as we are seeing in your comments. But countless men vent their feelings online admitting they’re afraid of women treating them in the same way men have been treating women for centuries.
woc, like myself, love female rage bc i can live through them. i don’t get called aggressive or manish while i watch them live out my rage.
This reads like a little poem.
Well said
A woman's rage film that doesn't get a lot of recognition is Belladonna of Sadness. I highly reccomend it! It's so ahead of its time being made in the early 70s
Ah yes I’ve been meaning to watch Belladonna of Sadness for so long! Thank you for reminding me, the animation is so stunning.
@@FinalGirlStudios You're welcome I hope you like it 😊!
Also the movie She-Devil 1989
its such a pretty film!
YES
Women feel shame when they are angry, so they cry.
Men feel shame when they cry, so they get mad.
Both are defaulting to the "correct" emotion to their gender.
This video explains kind of the inverse of "men can only express two feelings, anger and lust".
This realization is mind-blowing to me, is connected. Patriarchy assigned gender to emotions, and make us feel shame for not sticking to that.
When you describe the man inside your head judging how feminine you are I couldn't avoid thinking that I as a man also have a man in my head judging how manly I am, how I talk, how I dress, how I move. Women have it worst, don't take me wrong, but patriarchy lives rent free in all of us apparently.
I wish we could be free to express the whole range of our inner lives without this constant need to perform.
I feel shame when I do both, I try not to embody any negative emotions. I don't even know why lmao
I would definitely agree that most men operate with a secondary man inside their head judging them (I think this is extremely evident and well-explored in American Psycho). I think that is a fundamental aspect in the experience of womanhood vs manhood. Whilst women have been taught to perceive themselves through the gaze of men, the “opposite” gender (forgive me for speaking in binaries); men have also been taught to perform for the gaze and validation of men, their same gender. Because in a patriarchal society the opinion of and gaze of women is traditionally not considered, nor cared about.
The “male gaze” inside our head that we speak of is ultimately our internalization of the patriarchy, as you said. I definitely think men, women, and people of all genders, experience negative repercussions to this internalization. I think the experience you’re highlighting is completely valid and common amongst men! I certainly believe that men are harmed by the patriarchy. It’s incredibly nuanced. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! ☺️
Exactly.
@@FinalGirlStudios People of all genders, and sexualities.
@@tcrijwanachoudhuryBecause you don't want to show the emotion?
I also wish desperately that ugly women would get to star in these roles more often. Women who have Never been able to preform for the male gaze, who have tried to work out, use makeup, dress the right way just to be looked at by their male peers but can't manage to get it right. I want more angry women who men will look at in disgust instead of fetishized fear because while I LOVE movies like Jennifers Body the women in them aren't allowed to be ugly on the outside. Ugliness in women are only allowed to exist within, otherwise our stories don't deserve to be told. The personality and journey of a female protagonist can be bloody, murderous, messy and ugly, but only if her appearence is pretty to look at, and I personally just can't find solace in that.
I want women to be allowed physical flaws that aren't easily removed like glasses and such. Idk I just, I want to see my experience on the big screen. Even if I don't personally identify as a woman I was born and raised as one and the emotions that build up in you when you physically can't adhere to the perfect image of femininity it just feels like you don't fit in anywhere, because ugly girls are not allowed to be ugly on the inside and whenever we're showed on screen we have to be the nice one, or the shy one, or the boring one just to have an excuse for our appearence.
Idk if this made sense of was very coherent lol
I agree! I wish I would have remembered to touch on Monster (2003)!
The Life and Loves of a She Devil on BBC. I watched it on YT and read the novel back in the 80s.
The protagonist is not conventionally attractive.
society is still far away from accepting unattractive women to play the roles, just look at how much Hailey been trashed and mocked not so long ago for playing as Ariel and she's not even ugly
@@Qwerty-lq2op i know, but that doesn't change my point. it's literally the main reason i'm so pissed in the first place
Correct it's only okay if men think it's okay. As long as at the end of the day they can get their kicks. We can do so with their permission.
A recent non white female rage portrayal I enjoyed, was the series, The Glory. A well done revenge story, with both the main antagonist and protaganist being women.
And to add a thought to the discussion. I always thought that women were dangerous because we are trained to be patient, and not reveal our thoughts and emotions, to wear a mask. Which makes for optimized strategists.
To be honest,The Glory was actually one of the few revenge series i enjoyed not only with its depiction of female rage but also the way it had made the characters quite complex without leaning into any common tropes unlike alot others.
I could also add that i’m surprised that neither Yeon-jin or Dong-eun aren’t mentioned as examples for female rage to begin with.
I remember what my high school sociology teacher had said to us about male versus female rulers/soldiers. He said were like High School kids. The men seemed to puff up their chest, and fight in public, hoping they'd be separated by others before things got too bad. Meanwhile? Women would wait in the shadows to jump their opponents when nobody was around, in order to inflict maximum damage, with no chance of anyone stopping them. Men, he'd said, we're wimps when compared to a truly lethal woman bent on dishing up damage. And that was echoed in many moments in history.
I remember thinking "yeah, that tracks."
So by that logic Women would be responsible for All the violent crimes and murders committed in the world... I think he was just trying to make you feel better.
@@thehills1042 i don't see how this relates to that
Women are no threat to anyone. The only way a woman can hurt a man is by killing him from laughter. I guess your teacher was just trying to cheer the women in your class. I'll be depressed too if I was a cow who gets m*lested by 65 years old grandpa's on daily basis
@@thehills1042 great strawman
@@thehills1042 great job not responding the the statement that was said whatsoever. Are you off some meds?
I still remember when the movie Gone Girl came out and people were tripping over themselves to call it an anti-feminist movie and that if you liked it you were evil. I was just happy to see a female villain that wasn't secretly a 'sad weepy girl'. We need more female characters who are allowed to be messy and complicated and not cater to our ideals of what a 'nice' woman is. Every time I see a film or tv show or game that has a female character be messy or mean or wrong, they get so much hate while the male characters that are just like them get loved and justified. Here's hoping that one day that trend dies.
I've watched a lot of videos on female rage lately, and thought that it might be a sign for me to try being angry myself. I've always been a classic good girl. I've been raised like I'm a kind cute princess, and therefore haven't developed any boundaries, didn't know how to protect myself from unfairness, how to stand my ground.
I decided to try and incorporate a little stubbornness and anger in my day to day life: from not letting people push me out of my place on a public transport to cussing people out when they upset me with their actions. Honestly, it works wonders. Now I feel more confident, more strong, I'm not afraid of the world around me anymore. And this power inside me just keeps getting stronger and stronger. To develop and express anger was one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life.
Exactly! But the sad thing is that we’re inevitably called rude, when in fact we’re vocally and boldly standing up for ourselves and creating boundaries. We shouldn’t have to take shit and expect to either ignore it or respond ‘sweetly’.
expressing your emotions, whether they are negative or positive, is so so important
@@Ella-cz4yl You are rude if you're cussing people out for pushing you. The ideal action is to simply ignore them and move on.
please, try to be careful about the cussing out people that upset you. Anger is often a cover up emotion for sadness and hurt, lashing out at people is mostly just damaging and a revenge impulse in my experience. Honest comunication should always be the way to go! esp. with people who you actually want to keep in your life.
I had an ex that went down a (i imagine) similar path of trying out anger, and that just made them vile and cruel and critic-resistant. And as a chronic pushover and people pleaser myself, i see the same trend in me. Ofc negative emotions need to be allowed space, but that is never an excuse to make other people suffer too
@@StoneAgeWarfare i think you’ve missed my point (but I wasn’t very clear). What I mean is that, if someone is obviously and actively trying to push our buttons/intimidate us, we should vocally stick up for ourselves if we feel safe (no one else is gonna do it) - we shouldn’t have to feel like we must be polite about it or try to ignore it. I of course do not believe in cussing people out if they accidentally push me, for example, what they did was a complete mistake and confronting them would be pointless and rude when they clearly didn’t mean it. But I think if someone’s deliberately trying to intimidate us, we shouldn’t just take their shit and accept it.
It's so funny you uploaded this! I just finished my thesis on how physically violent women can only ever be protagonists. A woman being threatening to the audience surrogate is incredibly uncomfortable for most people. Any violence committed by a woman on screen has to be passed through the veneer of empowerment. The only immediate exceptions are Misery and Audition, both of which are often considered more disturbing than other horror films. Why? Because audiences aren't used to fearing physical violence from a woman, only seeing it as being recourse for violence already done to that woman. Great video!
Your thesis sounds incredible!
Yeah honestly when I think of the horror films that sit with me the most, it’s Audition and Hereditary. Both largely due to the performance from their female leads. The imagery in both of those films are haunting. Toni Collette’s performance in Hereditary is seared into my brain.
That's such an interesting perspective!
@@sii479 no it isn't! I remember many female villains in cartoons I watched growing up
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl omg why are you responding to all my comments? Are you flirting with me rn?
@@sii479 no 😂😂😅it wasn't my intention. I didn't know that you were the same person.
I merely wanted to respond to your points
This video is honestly spot on, especially since a good deal of us watched in real time how people literally jumped at the idea of humbling and publicly attacking Angela Bassett for not putting on a "happy performance" to make white people feel comfortable when she was very obviously trying to contain her sadness/disappointment with the Oscars. Like honestly, imagine being told you're "ungrateful" for racial and gender bias that plagues anonymous committees like the Oscars/Grammys. And the yearly anonymous interviews from random committee members that take place before the award shows only confirm it. I wish there were more female rage films that distinguish the intersectionality of race and gender and how it negatively affects WOC, especially when it comes to seeing WOC express emotions outside of putting on a performance of happiness.
Unfortunately, as long as money talks, the Oscars will always be a playground for White Power
And you still can't bring in awards, even after the Year of St. Floyd. Fascinating.
You mean white people are more likely to win an award in a country that consists of mostly white people?
So many women's "issues" just stem from an underlying case of narcissism. "I think this way but everyone else things another. They must be the issue"
all my years in school i’ve been told that i was too loud, too talkative, a “pick me girl” bc i used to make a lots of jokes, get angry at some minor injustice. i was always the bad “guy”. I remember always telling my mom and teachers things like “but why can’t i do that if some of the boys do the same or worst things and never get scolded?” and the answers always was something in the lines of “because it’s normal for them”, “because the other girls behave well and you always make a scene” or simply “because they’re boys” and it made me SO frustrated since a young age. Even the girls used to judge me for speaking out about something or doing the same things the boys would do and I used to be so angry at them too (now I understand it’s not their fault for thinking like that, but i would always find it unfair). Boys would often not like me in a romantic way because most of them felt i was too expressive or angry and i would be lying if i said this never affected my self-steam, thinking that i should me more feminine in the forms of acting etc.
Seeing those movies with female rage characters (or at least just with a woman that goes off the norm) make me feel like i’m not wrong and i rather should embrace the voice i have (ofc not doing murderous things lol).
Your video was even more inspirational to say at least because sometimes i get myself thinking things like “oh i shouldn’t compare or relate to those female characters because they’re murders” but it’s not really about that, it’s just the fact that they’re protraited by the media as insane or crazy because the way they act (although i know they’re not supposed to be an example of goodness lmao).
I know a few "boyish" girls and they have the complete respect of the men around them and are awesome to be around.
If everyone around you (including women) are saying you act like a pick me girl, you're probably acting like a pick me girl. It sounds like you're actively trying to be different so it just comes off as cringey for the people around you
"It isn't how my hurt manifests, I was the antagonist because I didn't cry" augh relatable
Female rage speaks to me at the moment as a black girl who is tired of being ill-treated, ignored, rejected, and vilified.
I would love to see more female rage- especially from black women. Until then Rico Nasty is my supply 😋
i thought i was the only one who listened to rico as a way to outsource my female rage and feel heard lol
I honestly don't express any negative emotion outwardly, but I'm very creative and try to put these feelings into what I create
Love that! Art is a great outlet 💖
I have always been an impulsive and emotional person and so far people often did tell me I'm "aggressive" whenever I allowed myself to show stronger, less female-like (whatever that means) emotions and responses. At the beginning it hurt but today I continue to just be me and express everything freely. It's just who I am. If people can't handle that I don't care.
You do know that who you are can be bad traits right?
I resonate with being an impulsive and emotional person. I’ve been told I’m aggressive and even violent with how I’ve reacted, and that’s not entirely untrue. I Will admit, I noticed my passion sometimes get mistaken as aggression, and I don’t like that. I think it’s cause I’m also brown, but when a fair skinned woman does the same thing as me, it’s celebrated and applauded, and I don’t know why exactly. It’s exhausting being a woman sometimes.
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl no they dont... bruh. Imagen if i had tendencies of a murderer could i also "continue to just be me and express everything freely. It's just who I am. If people can't handle that I don't care." please? that is absolut idiocy. NOT EVERY PART OF THE HUMAN BEING IS A GOOD ONE. there is a reason why people want to show of their good side to others. being toxic is granted with ostracisation. Just try being nice to everyone, until they do you wrong.
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl It's not a bad trait for a woman to be angry when being disrespected, abused and treated unfairly. Her anger of leads to change to better circumstances e.g being an activist. Being passive is a hindrance in those circumstances.
I just finished watching all of “Swarm” last night. It’s a terrifying story but I did find it so intriguing because it was a woman of colour filled to the brim with female rage and murderous violence which is rarely seen in media, as you mention all these femrage characters are majority white. You empathize with her, not once do you think oh she’s just another angry black woman. You see a victim getting her revenge for a friend and falling off the deep end as she loses touch with reality as society wrongs her again and again. her only peace is found through a musician she becomes obsessed with; an amazing powerful story I think you’d like it, more people need to see it.
You could’ve just said she’s a black woman, and left it at that. It’s weird how we group all colored people together, and it honestly comes off as sub categories as people. Grouping all non white people together, such as saying POC, just seems like “othering” and as if we are next to the “default” of white people.
Immediately no. I seen what I needed to see… and no.
I love female rage but not the sexualized version. I wanna see something sick and twisted and angry. I wanna see something shocking and disturbing. I don’t want to see just another beautiful actress who everyone loves because she’s pretty which makes her rage understandable. I want to see a regular looking woman just lose her shit. They’ll never do that though, because for a woman to be angry it has to be sexy 😒 when I was very young I always used to feel that someone was watching me, whoever my crush was at the time usually. So I’d try to be “daintier” even at such a young age. It’s sad. I knew no one was actually watching me but I just felt like they were. I wasnt allowed to be myself even completely alone.
The loved ones movie. You're welcome. ❤ I couldn't even finish it it's so repulsive. Beware.
when i was in high school, there was this boy who kept talking to me even when i didn’t want to. i hated it, hated him, but was too scared to reacted? what if he did something to me?
i wish i had stopped being a “nice girl” sooner. i want to go back in time and scream at him. i hate, with all my heart, this feeling that i’m unsafe, that man can harm me. i don’t want to hide my rage anymore.
After watching the promising young women, nightingale, and reading the story about Medusa. All these stories really open my eyes on how women are violently mistreated by men. It’s scary because the female rage the way I see it is ugly and unhinged to see. Because women are taught to hold in their rage and not lose control of their emotions especially when a man disrespect them. But when they do they’re seen as crazy or insane. Nightingale and The Promising Young Women are unfiltered and realistic portrayal of the female rage. It’s ugly and scary to see. Nothing about this is pretty to see.
Female rage is very common for Mixed/Biracial women. I'm Mixed, I'm part Haitian, Nanticoke Native American, Scottish, and Irish. I grew up getting into a lot of fights when I was a child, especially in middle and high school. It was mainly my tool to get mean girls or jocks off my back. I was on the dance, choir, and stage performing teams in my middle and high schools. I had the pretty girl with a feisty heart reputation at my schools because I always protected socially outcast students and never made them feel unwanted. I had the pedestal of being a good student with good grades and being a local celebrity at my schools and small-town community. I'm happy to see more females of color rage because it's rooted back to generational trauma and the history of slavery however I feel the stereotype of angry women of color of them being ungrateful for being the attraction, for being famous and getting the wealth when minority communities never have that so they need representation for them. Women and Women of Color especially have a hard job which is to be the attraction, be the heroine or damsel in distress. Be all things that people expect you to be whether you are straight, bisexual, pansexual, queer, or lesbian. Women since the beginning of civilizations have been seen as the main source of reproduction and even wealth. The history of women being used and attacked dates back even to ancient times, it will be an infinity cycle that will never end for women in general to be either the kind-hearted heroine or the bitch villain. It's the same deal different life mentality that will never end.
same for south asians sadly :(. People are more likely to call them 'crazy' and 'anger-prone' when they have every right to feel anger.
Are we talking about slavery in the American context? Because it doesn't start there, girl.
I think this is because showing anger would not change a thing in society for women in the past, however the ability to remain cool and calculated may have been more important for our survival
Thank you for taking the time to create this. I feel like it all stems to feeding a man's fragile ego, hence why they need us to act like the damsel in distress -to make them puff out their chest and feel needed.. but as soon as a woman shows raw emotions or rage, the men get distressed because they don't know how to handle us. Its like being fond of a bunny and not expecting them to 'bite back' if they're upset, bad example but you get the point hahaha.I admire women who are intune with all their feminine emotions and allow themselves to express themselves not caring about the male gaze.
A woman's rage, as enacted in these films, is as beautiful as it is powerful. Excellent video. ❤
What is a woman?
@@liampatrick3110 anyone who identifies as a woman, idk what you're getting at, tbh.
@@alexismariaotero and how do you i dentify as something that has no definition? he was just asking for a definition. that would be like trying to explain an atom with saying "an atom is something that looks or acts of feels like an atom" this has no discriptiv value. a definition is more like "an atom is one of the smallest units of of our world. its special parts are electrons, protons and neutrons. the atom, Chlorine, has the mol mass of 35.45 g/mol. its Ion form is Cl^- . it can react with an Na^+ atom to form NaCl (Sodium chloride) also known als Salt.".
@@aloedark5221 can u not mansplain shit. The dog whistle in that comment was obvious.
@@alexismariaoterowomen by factual existing definition means adult human female. Men can never be one. I'm saying this as a woman
I really appreciate how you don’t edit out your mistakes when reading scripts or outlines. It portrays realism.
Would love to see a video about this but with intersectionality and race as well! For example, I’m a black woman. It is different for us. There is no amount of dainty and smiley you can act to be considered feminine by the mouth of way too many men regarding us. We are still “angry black women” even with a smile apparently. Here’s how I see it: when a white woman expresses her rage against a POC that is a woman, it is the only time men don’t judge her rage, especially white men but all men too bc of the intersectionality of misogyny. And then when that white woman goes home, she is treated as this video describes which is still valid, but it goes to show how differently all women face this topic and the difference in how our rage can be expressed even amongst each others judgement.
I was on tiktok when the topic first blew up, most of the supporters of the edits were white women (looking at their pages!), and almost none of them could understand how it felt that no black women, no Asian women, etc were included in the edits at first. A handful of them were vile about the point we were trying to get across, about how we should be in the edits too bc female rage, how we’re judged is all very real. Even with Jennifer’s Body, the movie was heavily criticized by men and some women, even if she’s white, so imagine WOC. Include us too, right? Thankfully, more did come along. But you’ll also notice in media that the female rage movies that are supported, mostly only have white main characters who are expressing that rage. The WOC ones get way less attention. That’s the fault of WOC too, I think, because even some of us have bias deep down. I think this video is truest for white women, which is still valid as they’re women and have their own brutal historic crimes against them like all women, but the expression of female rage coming from a woman of color is different I think!
Thanks for the insight, I love these topics as they obviously impact real world ideologies and events.
Edit: LOL I MADE THIS COMMENT RIGHTTT before you started talking about it!! 🤣 I was waiting a while but didn’t want to forget my thoughts so I commented right away. Oops, my bad 😭 Looks like the entire video was a hit point! 🙌🏽
Yesss! I agree 100%! Anger is definitely an incredibly complex emotion that many of us have an incredibly nuanced relationship with depending on the intersections of our identities and life experiences. I hope that as we see a rise in the voices of minorities within film we see a rise in nuanced depictions of anger especially in Black and Indigenous women and femmes.
Im glad you kept watching and made it to that part of the video! A few people have done the same thing and commented right before getting to that part haha (I should have maybe addressed it sooner in the video), but these comments are important regardless so thank you for contributing to this discussion! 🥰
Coming from Mexican American background the only time I’ve realistically seen Mexican woman shown in the natural rage has been in telenovelas. And I think it’s funny how america portrays telenovelas because they make it seem lighthearted and exaggerated. Like i grew up seeing some dark stuff women would do that technically I should’ve been exposed to as a child on tv. However the same dilemma applies there where majority of lead females are white looking due to colorism in Mexico. I’ve only seen one novela where the lead actress is tan and had indigenious features. The thing is that feminine rage is so universal due to historical reasons and even today because as a female it’s expected our expirence be centered around the reoccurring spiritualized journey of pain and forgiveness. Feminine rage at least in this video portrays the rawness of rage in its natural habitat but it always has to be dressed up somehow. And it usually always is.
Can't have a day without those white Karen's, eh?
Simply put, black female rage ends up on World Star where you fight in airports or beat up fast food workers in McDonald's. We can watch Tiktoks, too. The stereotypes exist for a reason..
honestly I love seeing unhinged female characters and I’ve been seeing a lot of posts like the ones you’ve shown because of an assignment I’m doing, but I’m also kind of started to get annoyed with this trope. It’s just frustrating that feminine rage is seen as empowering but only when it’s a white woman, who is unhinged, yes, but she’s still skinny and pretty, so it’s ✨aesthetic✨
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So good
I'm getting comfortable in my anger and speaking up. I hate stereotypes for black women but I remind myself I am human. I'm glad you spoke a bit about the difference in race expression
Tara from True Blood is one of the few complex portrayals of black female rage that I can recall. I don’t want to spoil her story but she isn’t reduced to a trope. The analysis of Jennifer’s Body reminded me a lot of Tara’s storyline. Great video, I’m so glad I found this channel.
You are allowed to be imperfect, and still love yourself
Absolutely 💖
YES!
I really want to thank you for your content. As a 21 years old’s woman, I recently realized internalized misogyny in myself. I feel like I understand better my teenage hood now. Understanding is the first step in order to change. I feel like i’m taking my power back
This rlly hurts bc I was taught to be compliant and quiet and it led to me isolating myself and my problems and creating a prison for myself. If I let myself be angry and loud would I be a more confident person who can easily set boundaries?
Eris, the goddess of chaos and discord from the movie 'Sinbad' is such a delight to watch... because she is evil just for the sake of being evil and she's so sexy while being chaotic and rageful.
Whilst changing my first name I thought of her as well as the part of an eye and thus named myself Iris. I am biologically a female just hated my name and other factors. To me the meaning of my name is basically seeing female rage.
For me, my first experience with feminine rage was with Rebecca (from the book Rebecca) and how her anger and rage and hate haunts the book throughout
this is an excellent video essay! I am one of those women who struggles to access her anger and to show it. I experience this with other emotions as well, strong emotions that make me lash out, everytime I feel those I feel like I am going crazy because that's the way I was conditioned. Only recently in therapy I have learned that I am in fact not crazy and should stand up for myself lol.
I also saw one comment that said "Women feel ashamed when they get angry, so they cry." This is so relatable, I always cry and I feel ashamed of so many of my emotions.
And now I am angry that I was conditioned to feel ashamed :D
I loved this video, it explained my rage towards practically anything that bothers me. I am definitely very emotional and sensitive but I'm also extremely hot headed and only the family I live with know this so this really made me feel better as I believed I was weird for finding comfort in these characters and wanting to feel the way these characters felt
Sometimes i feel really tired and sick of being a woman:(
Who says you're a woman?
Whats ur problem why are you replying to everyone here lmao
ironically, i was raised as a boy, and i used to cry a lot when i was younger (i still probably do more than most men, but i somewhat adapted destructive coping mechanisms during young adulthood) either way i remember that i was often made the perpetrator, i think because i cried. Like i was unhinged, not in control of myself, maybe perceived as bothersome by authority figures. therefore i probably couldn't be trusted to tell the truth about how the conflict came to be and what happened thereafter.
This is something that has been frustrating ever since I was a child. I was trying to cover my body from a young age while trying to reveal just enough to be desirable. When I walk down the street and men stare, I feel like a godess and like a freakshow at the same time. My rage has been my greatest strength and the source of my deepest shame. How are we supposed to function when they want us to behave in extremes but at the same time shame us for it?
It's even sadder that I felt like crying, because I was so angry that I can't get angry. And if that doesn't say something, I don't know what does.
Anger comes from resentment. So if you have anger issues, you got to ask yourself who or what are you resentful against. Resentment often comes from poorly set boundaries and sense of helplessness. The only thing that alleviates my anger or resentment is standing up for myself.
My issue it that in almost all the films they are attractive , yes attractive women can and do feel rage, but put an 'ugly' woman in the protagonist role and it would not be celebrated. Each character stills meets the male gaze on some level ❤
My roommate is a man in his early 30's, and most of his friends are men in their early 30's. He jokes about having to suppress feelings, or how bad it is to feel them when a form of media makes him sad. I keep telling him that feelings aren't meant to be bottled up. That's how you can sometimes feel angry, frustrated, etc. He's got suppressed emotions. I do, too, but I learned after a bad ex that it's okay to have emotions and use them. I hated being told women only smile, and expressing anything but pretty, shallow feelings is weak. Emotions are raw and strengthening if done in a healthy manner. Crying is okay for anyone. Too much uncontrolled rage is bad, but anger is okay to express. People feel things. The female rage woman in media is interesting to me, be it I Spit on Your Grave, Teeth, Jennifer's Body, or Pearl. To an extent, Raw, the movie about a vegetarian who goes cannibalistic, has some elements to this in violence towards getting the next meal, while also being conflicted about what's causing it. While anger can be healthy, it cal also be unhealthy, which is where the female rage character comes in. Unlikable female characters are kinda cool. Not sure how I feel about some of their brutal methods in movies, shows, etc., though. I wish there were more non-white characters for this role to even the scale.
be careful with a male roomate, you end up his therapist/maid at best and you get assaulted at worst
@@boredshrimp9425 Not all men are the same. It's been nearly two years and we have set boundaries. I've lived with many male roommates on platonic terms and it never got that way. Don't generalize.
I love every video you make (and this one isn't an exception) , but I have a completely different experience from yours.
I tend to cry when I'm angry, and I've always hated that, because it makes people think that my feelings and anger aren't as important as theirs, that I'm "overreacting", and they try to shut me or completely ignore me.
Just because I cry doesn't mean that what I feel isn't important, as a human being I want to be heard too.
Me too. When I have huge arguments, I feel like if I cry, it will just come off as "emotional." Especially with my father, who constantly tells me not to be emotional during an argument.
I’m doing an art project based on female rage and this was very helpful.
you said it so well, i realize i always act like i'm being watched by a man even alone, it's unerving
I have paranoid schizophrenia and when you mentioned the feeling of always being watched through the keyhole (for me vents grates, keyholes or hidden cameras) it reminded me of were that paranoia originally stemmed from. A family molester that horrificaly abused me for years and i kept it a secret until i was plagued by flashbacks when i turned 18 after i had conquered most of my schizophrenia. my mother even took his side much later when news came out he did this to his own 2 daughters as well and when i heard this i wanted to murder him in the most torturous and gruesome ways as the statute of limitations was over. To this very day i fear being naked unless I'm under the covers, dress in male clothing, gained weight( which i am now trading out for a large amount of muscle) and i don't stifle my anger at all just to to avoid the male gaze.... it made me realize how close to being the supposed "villain" i really am... Its a large reason why iv been told by a novelist to write a book about my life ... and I take great pride in being such a villan! i take great pride in being myself and how i handled all this! I am a very mild mannered person but this is a rage that comes out only when i feel warranted. I'm not a danger to anyone... except maybe him...
I now see much more clearly what I'm supposed to write about, thank you for this eye opening essay!
Anya Taylor Joy loves to play a female rage character
Just want to say, as a guy who's found your channel, I love the work you've done here, and I do wish more guys would either stumble across channels like yours, and then actively give them the time of day to consider your many analysis'. They're all very well thought-out breakdowns of the stereotypes and structural infringements against feminine figures in media as a whole, and I feel as if most of us guys would be able to appreciate feminist media far more than most of us would ever give it credit willingly with these worldviews. Specifically, wanted to thank you with your 2022 films video. and the film recommendations in general - belladonna of sadness was fucking incredible (I'm a massive tool for anime films lmao)
You're the same men who think Dylan Mulvaney is a woman and Vaush is a saint.
No thanks.
@@blacktigerpaw1 aight first of all, for the first guy, first and foremost NO. Secondly, who tf is vaush
The first painting shown somewhere around the 5:49 mark in the video is Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres’s "La Grande Odalisque" from 1814. I took numerous Art History classes in high school; I found it really interesting that in this painting, the woman's back was elongated TEN TIMES it's natural length so her physique were more elongated and "graceful." While this may just be seen as a visual illusionary tool, I think it's really interesting Ingres felt he had to distort the human anatomy in his paintings to appear more "elegant" or "beautiful."
It reminds me a lot of the way photoshop is used in the modern age; from fashion and pop culture magazines, to influencers and individuals on social media altering their images of themselves to appear more "desirable" or "beautiful." It's just really interesting to think about in this way. Though there has been such an evolution in technology, the way we live, and the population, there are still dystopian and unrealistic collective ways of thinking that linger on from long ago...
I have just discovered your page a couple of days ago, and I am so inspired to start writing essays again because of you! Your video essays are compelling, and delivered with such mystique, passion, and style. Your research, critiques, and analysis are thorough and impeccable. I also that you explore the facets of perception. Thank you so much for making these videos. I LOVE YOUR PAGE!!!!
Wow that was so interesting to read! Thank you for pointing that out and taking the time to explain, so fascinating. It funny you mention being inspired to write essays because as I was reading your comment I was literally thinking “damn I would definitely read/watch essays by this person” lol.
I never shut up about this book, but have you read John Berger’s Ways of Seeing? The way you paralleled paintings and modern day beauty standards reminds of the way John Berger explores our relationship to paintings and advertisements in his book. If you haven’t read it I think you would thoroughly enjoy it!
@@FinalGirlStudios Ugh, thank youuuu sugar cube...this is such a huge compliment coming from you! I have some essays/writings up on my website but I really think I'm gonna start making video essays cause I've been so inspired by friends and work I've come across so far this year (especially urs
If you do end up making video essays send me an email linking me! My email is in the description of all my videos, I’d love to hear more🥰
@@FinalGirlStudios 💟💟💟omg!!! I definitely will
I hate being so aware of being seen, but there's nothing I hate more than being perceived or seen by men. And it's silly because I know not everyone is looking at me or even noticing me, but whenever I do catch anyone staring I hate it. I don't mind it when it's women and idk why, but I just wanna scratch my skin off when I catch a man staring for more than a blink. That's why I hate that I always recognize the little "I am a woman watching a man looking at a woman" thing because I do that so often, too often.
Funny, I have never NOT shown my anger. But yeah, I got all of those words. "B*tchy" and "too much." I do cry, will yelling. But you can definitely tell it isn't of sadness lol.
Have you watched American Mary? That was my favorite movie.
I remember my mom try to teach me not to react to bulllying or insults with anger. "Not to be on their level". It didn't work
Thank you for this, it was great to watch! 💕
i’ve always been “othered” and gawked at because i’ve never had an issue expressing rage. ever since i was a young child, when i felt anger i would do the same exact things boys would do - yell, break objects, insult and cast judgment upon people (usually the source of my anger); and because i never cared about what people thought of me, i was viewed as unhinged, unreasonable, “unnaturally” aggressive.
but no one ever considered the fact that my anger always had a cause, the emotion and the actions taken due to the emotion were an effect - i don’t have schizophrenia, i don’t imagine offenses perpetrated by others. i openly and vehemently reject a society that wishes women like me (survivors) were silent, and the socially acceptable alternative - sad, about the things that have happened to us.
people don’t think women will meet violence with violence, or do what it takes to survive, but we will - and we do. the main problem with the view of female rage is the assumption that it always stems from sadness, from some kind of pain - that it’s an overreaction, it’s unjustified, when it is usually the polar opposite. it also assumes that it’s always a specific man or group of people are the cause, and it couldn’t be the world around us in all of its hatred and violence and absurdity.
women can be violent. women can be manipulative. not because of men, or for the pleasure of men, but despite men - and usually in spite of. women can (and do) react to society with the same level of vitriol that men do - it’s just usually portrayed in different ways.
in reality, in actuality, women are just as angry as men - and the societal assumption that women can’t be outwardly violent, and wouldn’t want to be, is the exact reason why so many female serial killers have gotten away with their crimes for centuries longer than men have.
i hope that female rage as it’s portrayed in movies will contained to evolve - and we get true female villains that aren’t victims of men and/or society as a whole as a prerequisite (aka rationalization / justification) for their rage. pure evil, not just rage stemming from frustration or vengeance.
this was an interesting video. it gave me a bit to think about. i subbed to your channel because i really enjoyed the American Psycho being a feminist movie and why women relate to Patrick Bateman as a character.
I wish I had this type of content when I was a rageful kid! It would’ve made a world of difference. I just subscribed, looking forward to seeing more of your work 🤗
Amazing essay! I’ve felt so empowered and validated by it. Really well documented too.
omg thank you so much for talking about how the movie industry loves to overlook black female rage.
I cannot express how much my eyes have been open with your essay. It makes me understand why I feel the way a feel. Thank you so
The Amazon series “Swarm” is a great example for a black main character with female rage/hate/unhinged behavior.
Great social commentary too
Only if the female rage is from a girl well under 30
Another good example of female rage is Lupita Nyong’o’s character from the movie us because if you remember, the real girl came back for revenge and I feel like that was a perfect example of female rate coming from a black woman
Great video! I love the unhinged woman genre as well, and you were exactly right in saying that even when a woman exacts revenge or there's a motive for her actions, the character is often slightly looked down upon or seen as taking it too far or is 'crazy' in a bad way, compared to male characters that are regarded as heroic for taking revenge. Love the complexity of a woman with both intelligence, sentimentality and rage, like Cassie Thomas in Promising Young Woman, or even Love Quinn in the Netflix series, You. She definitely gets judged more harshly than her charming male serial killer counterpart, Joe.
I ADORE THIS VIDEO!!! You really did an amazing job, and I can't wait to see what you do next!
This video had me in a grip. Such great quotes and visuals
This is absolutely 10,000% right and extremely creepy.
There’s so many times I felt like I was crazy for consistently thinking “ if someone were to see me do this what would they think“
Stumbled on this channel. I’m obsessed with your work. Super well done!
Girl, am so so glad i clicked on this vid and wtd!!!! such precise and well-researched content you create. LOVEEED it!!!!! OBSESSED.
Such an excellently made video. You are a true pro! Thank you so much for sharing your insight. I love your videos and I can't wait to rewatch Gone Girl now!
I have seen a lot of people pointing out the lack of POC Female Rage, I think you guys need to explore more female rage movies outside of the US, like No Sympathy for Lady Vengeance (Secuel to Old Boy, Korea); Relatos Salvajes (or Wild Takes, Argentina); The Glory (Netflix, Korea)
Put this one while doing homework and I just wanted to say awesome work. This is crazy well written and I loved it
Another great video essay, thank you and well done !!
This rang true for me so much as gifted child and “good girl” as a kid. Rage and lashing out isn’t the way. Anger, rational anger, that expresses the depth of your emotion effectively and clearly, using anger to make a statement, that’s what makes the discomfort, the suffering, go away. If it’s anger because you hurt and so you cry too, cry. Cry and be angry and tell that to the world. Learn to have the inner strength to be able to do that without breaking from whatever the world throws back at you.
It’s what I’ve been learning to do and it’s worked wonders. Against men with awful tempers who blow up at you, against women who internalize misogyny, against whoever. Take the time to heal, to find for yourself who you really are and understand that self.
Not a horror film but one of my favorite films that explores a lot of these themes is Ladies and Gentlemen, The Fabulous Stains. It’s about a teenage all female punk band. It sorta explores how even in supposedly anti establishment subcultures like the punk scene, men feel threatened by female rage and that their domain is being encroached upon. Highly recommend. Great video!
Its amazing that on a societal scale, many women are waking up & breaking free of their inner supressors/abusers by learning to embody their truth, no matter what it looks like. Anger is such an important emotion, it's our body's way of telling us something hurting us has to change! I also hope many learn how to healthily express it. Embodying/becoming your oppressor out of intent to hurt others to feel "powerful" still comes from a place of pain. I hope overall, these wounded women heal from their pain, & learn how to embody the power of their opressor in a positive, healthy & conscious way. This video is a part of this era of awareness/healing of many women. Thank you!!
amazing job on this video, i enjoyed every second. Just wanna say the whole crying thing i totally relate to because sometimes I feel so much rage that i have no way of releasing and sometimes the only thing you can do is cry it out. In a weird kinda fucked up way though i have to thank my dad, because he has pushed me to the point where i have been screaming at the top of my lungs and i dont think a lot of women have a chance to express their rage like that? Maybe? LOL idk
The saddest thing is - I started crying from your video. Crying because of feeling hurt by how society is. Crying because I'm angry instead of being angry. You don't notice this stuff in your day-to-day life, but it's always in you and is always around you. We should be mad at men but we keep crying as they programmed us to feel hopeless.
1:12 wow seeing my Tumblr meme caught me off guard haha. But yeah female rage is quite fascinating. It's comforting to watch. We're taught by society to be "the calm alternative to men". But, as a very emotional person I like seeing women being portrayed the way I feel. I feel seen and I relate on a deep level any time I see an emotional woman.
I am so glad I have discovered your channel ❤️❤️❤️
your videos are so enjoyable to watch. i love that you touched on portrayals of female anger in non-caucasian women. personally i would love to see more movies of female rage in black women (since they are often villainized for their rage and stereotyped for it) and asian women (since we are stereotyped to be completely obedient and servile). i look forward to watching more of your content and reviews. if i may recommend something for you to watch, i know it's not a movie and it's a netflix show but i would love to know your thoughts and viewing of Blue-Eyed Samurai. i've watched a ton of reviews here by other commentary channels but they're all made by men and while they are good reviews, i think they miss some of the important discussions on gender since they are men. no pressure on this and ofc i encourage you to still enjoy it on your own. keep up the great work!!
So among other gender gaps to exist globally, 'gender rage gap' is also a part of it that generally no one talks about. Thanks to this video bringing much needed awareness to this topic. Also, some other on-screen examples depicting female rage include Carry Mullgan's role in Promising Young Women, Love Quinn from the show You if anybody needed to know!
great video, this is unrelated but just wanted to put out that "Black Swan" is an almost direct copy of satoshi kon's "A Perfect Blue", down even to the name of the main character, and I recommend people who enjoyed Black Swan watch A Perfect Blue. I think also its interesting how even often within these depictions of female rage, they are from a male perspective or fetishized into some kind of revenge fantasy; for example what you said about them always being "young, hot, white women", where even as the characters act in defiance of preformance, the actresses are still preforming. I think that is also a problem endemic to or more largely seen in the united states (ex in almost any british show vs its usa adaptation you see characters made more "glamerous" or "attractive" because people can't simply exist). i also agree with the comments people made about non white women being regarded as fiery, its the first thing that occured to me in this video (i am a hispanic woman) and I think it comes from a uniquely eurocentric and male view of other cultures in which women arent as condemed for showing emotion, where in these cultures its normal, from a eurocentric male perspective, its women inappropriately exhibiting traits which dont align with "what women should" or more accurately what it is typically taught in the west that women should.
I just discovered your page yesterday and have already watched like 5 video essays. You're brilliant honestly, also I think you should add The Long Kiss Goodnight to your Female Rage list. One of my all time favorites
Just added to my watch list! What an amazing cast! Thank you for the recommendation and for the support, I appreciate you ☺️
@@FinalGirlStudios Absolutely! Can't wait to see what you think of it!
i just found your channel today but i'm in love. thank you for your work and effort and time - i really enjoy your content.
Thank you for your kind comment!!💖
I hope we get better rep for female anger! Ngl men or women I don’t really like ‘flawed’ or ‘rage’ characters because I don’t vibe with that but maybe the genre isn’t for me. I am definitely the type of girl that cries when angry
Unexpectedly Blair Waldorf is also an amazing example of female rage. Sometimes rightfuly so, some other times not at all. She is a very interesting character
Beautifully articulated!
Beautiful analysis
The angry black woman is already a stereotype. And one most people think is negative at that. I do like this video though. 😅
I'm writing and producing a short film that has to do with SA. From day one of writing I decided not to include any portrayals of SA -- because there are people who watch things specifically to see women harmed. It's wild.
do you happen to know the psychology behind that?
@@nephtalie5889 Not sure if you are asking for answers or questioning me in order to tell me more. I'm def not a psychologist or have ever thought of being one so I can only explain my thoughts on it as a filmmaker and someone who is a woman: abuse against woman doesn't need to be shown on screen for it to have an impact on the audience.
There are people who flock to see, huge, blockbuster films, that showcase, countless men, dying horrific deaths, the John Wick films being one example, why is one thing okay but the other thing isn’t
Also, if someone has been abused and horribly mistreated by women, I can tell you that seeing women suffer in entertainment definitely brings about a catharsis for those experiences, so that may very well be the reason why a lot of men enjoy seeing that, especially when you consider it’s far less socially acceptable for men to express rage and frustration towards women than the opposite
@@theyautjawarrior6652men have raped and murdered woman for thousands of centuries with literally no punishment are you a fucking moron
I needed this. 5hankyou. I'm currently working on authenticity.
I loved this. Thank you.
I relate to a lot of these comments. I grew up in abus3, mostly at hands of a mother. was objectified/hypersexu@alized. I realized at 15 I had never truly gotten angry in my life. Many angering things had happened to me though. Did the "sad girl" thing. It made me realize I was groomed by both the abuser and society to disconnect from my anger. Your anger is the part of you that wants justice for you. Now I make space for it. I've moved out and have been letting myself have full access to anger and rage. It was is pent up. I am still dealing with a lot of it as a result. But better than to feel nothing. It's just that I feel positively out of mind when it happens. I suppose I can find it dysregulating and very intense. If you're autistic you likely have c-ptsd and rage associated with it. if you have adhd you are prone to quick bursts of anger.
Yeah none of this applies to me...was raised by a rage filled mother and am a rage filled person. Maddy isn't relatable either - shes too hot. Try being fat and ugly and also being full of rage. I was basically a man.
That in itself is another layer of female rage. How do we have to present for our rage to be considered feminine rage?? Because I’m tall and fat and characteristically unfeminine, is my anger more acceptable? It feels that way sometimes. When I angry cry does it cause revulsion instead of sympathy because I’m too masculine for it to be the correct expression of anger? Fascinating stuff.
That’s Maddy’s rage, she’s attractive but men only want her because she’s attractive, she’s been sexualized since she was very young even by men in her family, she thinks that the only way she can get a man is by having sex with them but that only makes her feel worse. She also had to deal with her parents divorce and her parents addictions, she’s been let down by every men including her father the one who was supposed to protect her. You can say she has daddy issues which she does but that’s not the point, her rage comes from that. She’s been used and abused and she’s tired of that, the fact that she’s conventionally attractive doesn’t help at all. I relate to her so much and it hurts me because almost everything she went through I did too and it’s not easy to cope with.