I bought an Iver Johnson at a gun show back in 1997 for $125. The previous owner had replaced the handguard with a wood version. Also some nitwit had tried to fix the piston and ended up cross threading it. I guess that was why it was so cheap, because it wouldn't cycle. Another $75 in gunsmithing fees got it into action. Still a good buy! Wish I hadn't sold it
Thanks. I have had a late Gen 3 Universal for.year and got a WW2 Postal Meter awhile ago and now just bought a very early Universal. It's got a super low serial number starting 34## ..Just four digits!
My G3 Universal Carbine from the 60's took quite a bit of work to get working 100% reliably: On my Universal I had to add Wolff recoil springs (dual) to fix feed issues, then I had to change hammer spring due to light primer strikes... but the hammer-spring Wolff sent was SO over-powered it was deforming the primer, and took a ton of work to install (Universal hammer-spring guide rods don't have the little hole at the end of the rod. The hole aids you in compressing the spring by allowing you to use a metal shaft of some kind that you fit through the hole for grip and leverage) - I ultimately had to cut the hammer-spring down 25% (Wolff only sells overpowered springs for the Universal carbine hammer-spring by the way - at least thats what they shipped me). After cutting 25% and installing it, and after the recoil-spring change, the gun runs flawlessly (NOTE: If you have to cuts yours, put the cut end of the spring in the hole in the receiver and the flat end of the spring against the guide-rod on the side that rests on the hammer; the stock spring was rough-cut on the receiver end of the spring as well, so this worked fine) I also bought the far supperior Korean surplus M1 Carbine magazines in both 15 and 30 and they work far better in my gun and my friends standard style M1 Carbine. I actually think the dual recoil springs (once loaded with adequately powered springs) are an improvement over the spring in the standard M1 carbine. My gun now works great while my friends two GI style carbines have feed issues even after doing recoil spring upgrades.
I’ve got an IJ carbine like yours. Vintage 1979. The Achilles heel in these models is that IJ did not use steel GI trigger housings. Rather, they used their own cast aluminum trigger housings. My trigger housing just broke apart and fell into my hand one day. I replaced it with a steel trigger assembly from Fulton Armory. The mag fits much tighter into the trigger housing. No more jams! Extremely reliable feeding and cycling with a steel trigger housing!
I would definitely like to see a more in-depth review on the universal. I also found on the universal that most problems for me were the magazines. Great vid!
I've never had a problem with my Over Johnson .30 Carbine. I've had a few Magazines that created problems but just a few. I like the Stainless steel of the Iver Johnson. I did replace the stock with a Surplus military walnut stock and it fits perfect. Great shooting rifle
I recently acquired an Universal Carbine Redux, quite different from yours, but still an Universal. Need an Universal bolt assembly replacement but no luck so far hehe. Thanks for the video.
My universal ,the mags fit so loose, I have to hold upward pressure on it while shooting it for it to cycle. Tried lots of different mags as well. Also theft great in my Saginaw.
Re: Identifying the differences. The immediate and obvious way to identify any Universal M1 Carbine is that the cut-out aperture in the underside of the wooden stock for the trigger and magazine is perfectly RECTANGULAR. This was not mentioned in the video. Take a look at the cutout in the wood around the triggers in both of the M1's above. The Universal stock (walnut stock) is square at the cutout for the trigger. The Iver Johnson stock (blond stock) is not square and there is more wood there. This difference is important for buying any replacement stock.
In my experience (all with junk ammo) the Universal ran ok with the KCI 15 round magazines. With 30 rounders it had some jams. Planning on taking both out with good ammo and different magazines to see how they perform.
The ivory Johnson carbine is made just like the military carbine but cheaper metal. The military carbine is over The ivory, Johnson somewhere between 700 and $800. I have a Saginaw, Winchester and I rucola left in my collection, Tennessee
I really don’t want to hear how you think one might be prettier than other or some other nonsense . Take the two weapons to the range and tell us which one shoots tighter groups, which of two weapons functions better with different types of ammo . Which one of two had the most malfunctions, which of the two weapons seemed to operate smoother, This is what true gun enthusiasts want to hear. Not some guy just showing off his toys. I am sorry if this seems harsh ! ( GO TO WORK) you can do better
Beware, 2nd gen Universal carbine bolts do not have a safety that keeps them from firing out of battery. Mine did and it destroyed the bolt. Luckily, I had safety glasses on.
I had one in 2014 I just ordered one today for $432.66 needs a bolt.. the ex owner couldn't find one.. I know it will be a great challenge to get one . I saw one sold on eBay in December of 2019. Tbh with today's gun inflation prices.. they're charging$150-400 extra on all surplus and mill spec guns I've seen tec 9's go from $575-1200 mac 10 $550-1600 Ak 47 $650-1500 glock$400-750 with ease . If you can get any older gun even a high point carbine now days under$500 your scoring major points 🏌️🤾🧐🤔🔫✔️✅👌🤑
YOU JUST POINTED OUT THE NUMBER 1 CAUSE OF JAMMING ON UNIVERSAL THE MAG HAS TO SWING BACK AND FORTH TO LINE UP WITH RAMP LOL ANOTHER WORDS DONT RAP THE MAG EITHER
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I bought an Iver Johnson at a gun show back in 1997 for $125. The previous owner had replaced the handguard with a wood version. Also some nitwit had tried to fix the piston and ended up cross threading it. I guess that was why it was so cheap, because it wouldn't cycle. Another $75 in gunsmithing fees got it into action. Still a good buy! Wish I hadn't sold it
Thanks. I have had a late Gen 3 Universal for.year and got a WW2 Postal Meter awhile ago and now just bought a very early Universal. It's got a super low serial number starting 34## ..Just four digits!
My G3 Universal Carbine from the 60's took quite a bit of work to get working 100% reliably: On my Universal I had to add Wolff recoil springs (dual) to fix feed issues, then I had to change hammer spring due to light primer strikes... but the hammer-spring Wolff sent was SO over-powered it was deforming the primer, and took a ton of work to install (Universal hammer-spring guide rods don't have the little hole at the end of the rod. The hole aids you in compressing the spring by allowing you to use a metal shaft of some kind that you fit through the hole for grip and leverage) - I ultimately had to cut the hammer-spring down 25% (Wolff only sells overpowered springs for the Universal carbine hammer-spring by the way - at least thats what they shipped me). After cutting 25% and installing it, and after the recoil-spring change, the gun runs flawlessly (NOTE: If you have to cuts yours, put the cut end of the spring in the hole in the receiver and the flat end of the spring against the guide-rod on the side that rests on the hammer; the stock spring was rough-cut on the receiver end of the spring as well, so this worked fine)
I also bought the far supperior Korean surplus M1 Carbine magazines in both 15 and 30 and they work far better in my gun and my friends standard style M1 Carbine.
I actually think the dual recoil springs (once loaded with adequately powered springs) are an improvement over the spring in the standard M1 carbine. My gun now works great while my friends two GI style carbines have feed issues even after doing recoil spring upgrades.
I'm glad you Chimed in.
My Universal will come in soon.
So, this gives me a list of items to be aware of...
Thanks
I’ve got an IJ carbine like yours. Vintage 1979. The Achilles heel in these models is that IJ did not use steel GI trigger housings. Rather, they used their own cast aluminum trigger housings. My trigger housing just broke apart and fell into my hand one day. I replaced it with a steel trigger assembly from Fulton Armory. The mag fits much tighter into the trigger housing. No more jams! Extremely reliable feeding and cycling with a steel trigger housing!
Might have to get me one.
I would definitely like to see a more in-depth review on the universal. I also found on the universal that most problems for me were the magazines. Great vid!
I have several videos out on that gun. It was one of the first guns I ever bought.
I've never had a problem with my Over Johnson .30 Carbine. I've had a few Magazines that created problems but just a few. I like the Stainless steel of the Iver Johnson. I did replace the stock with a Surplus military walnut stock and it fits perfect. Great shooting rifle
I recently acquired an Universal Carbine Redux, quite different from yours, but still an Universal. Need an Universal bolt assembly replacement but no luck so far hehe. Thanks for the video.
I ordered the m1 carbine universal today.. it needs a bolt.. the ex owner couldn't find one. I looked on ebay and seen 1 was sold last December 😧🙃🤔🔫🔩
Funny... my '81-vintage IJ carbine, that I purchased new that year, came with a walnut stock with what looks like an oil finish.
I have a Universal M1 with metal heat shield, and its teflon coated.
With the Universal, the bolt will stay open if you pull the handle back, and lift up.
I found this out in 2014 when I had my first one.. it's true... O... It's damn true 🤣😉 lol was like whoa is this a automatic 🙀🎯🔫😮😲🤯
My universal ,the mags fit so loose, I have to hold upward pressure on it while shooting it for it to cycle. Tried lots of different mags as well. Also theft great in my Saginaw.
I like the Iver Carbine look better, with the heat shield top as opposed to the wood block top.
Re: Identifying the differences. The immediate and obvious way to identify any Universal M1 Carbine is that the cut-out aperture in the underside of the wooden stock for the trigger and magazine is perfectly RECTANGULAR. This was not mentioned in the video. Take a look at the cutout in the wood around the triggers in both of the M1's above. The Universal stock (walnut stock) is square at the cutout for the trigger. The Iver Johnson stock (blond stock) is not square and there is more wood there. This difference is important for buying any replacement stock.
It's been a while since I made this video, but did I not point out the differences in the trigger guards themselves?
In many circles a universal is known as jammatic I used to have an Iver Johnson I found it to be very reliable and just fun to shoot
In my experience (all with junk ammo) the Universal ran ok with the KCI 15 round magazines. With 30 rounders it had some jams. Planning on taking both out with good ammo and different magazines to see how they perform.
Great have lots of fun ,burn a lot of ammo. Make memories.
Have a gen 2 Universal. In MY gun, the 30 round mag sits too low and will not feed. The Korean 15 rounders are flawless
The ivory Johnson carbine is made just like the military carbine but cheaper metal. The military carbine is over The ivory, Johnson somewhere between 700 and $800. I have a Saginaw, Winchester and I rucola left in my collection, Tennessee
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Thanks
I really don’t want to hear how you think one might be prettier than other or some other nonsense . Take the two weapons to the range and tell us which one shoots tighter groups, which of two weapons functions better with different types of ammo . Which one of two had the most malfunctions, which of the two weapons seemed to operate smoother, This is what true gun enthusiasts want to hear. Not some guy just showing off his toys. I am sorry if this seems harsh ! ( GO TO WORK) you can do better
Gen 1 universal has mil spec. Parts
IS 700 DOLLARS FOR A UNIVERSAL M1 A GOOD DEAL?
Mine was $600 about 8 years ago, so I'd say so.
I just bought a universal enforcer pistol for 650$ so that's probably average used
Beware, 2nd gen Universal carbine bolts do not have a safety that keeps them from firing out of battery. Mine did and it destroyed the bolt. Luckily, I had safety glasses on.
I had one in 2014 I just ordered one today for $432.66 needs a bolt.. the ex owner couldn't find one.. I know it will be a great challenge to get one . I saw one sold on eBay in December of 2019. Tbh with today's gun inflation prices.. they're charging$150-400 extra on all surplus and mill spec guns I've seen tec 9's go from $575-1200 mac 10 $550-1600 Ak 47 $650-1500 glock$400-750 with ease . If you can get any older gun even a high point carbine now days under$500 your scoring major points 🏌️🤾🧐🤔🔫✔️✅👌🤑
Really depends some early universals used gi parts but to me no. You can get a military model for around 900/1000 unless a rare maker.
YOU JUST POINTED OUT
THE NUMBER 1 CAUSE OF JAMMING ON UNIVERSAL
THE MAG HAS TO SWING BACK AND FORTH TO LINE UP WITH RAMP LOL
ANOTHER WORDS DONT RAP THE MAG EITHER