What's My Line? - Steve Lawrence & Eydie Gorme; Martin Gabel [panel] (Aug 17, 1958)
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2014
- MYSTERY GUEST: Steve Lawrence & Eydie Gorme [married singers, Vegas performers]
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Martin Gabel, Dorothy Kilgallen, Bennett Cerf 
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That garbage collector was more classically handsome than most of the movie stars who appeared as Mystery Guests! I wonder if any talent scouts ever tried to contact him after this appearance.
Yes! Sort of a young Charlie Chaplin crossed with Montgomery Clift.
***** & Todd Brandt & What's My Line?
And Arlene even commented on his attractiveness with her husband sitting right next to her!
I get a bit of Dennis Hopper grin.
SaveThe TPC He has commented on women attractiveness with her next him too.
@@WhatsMyLine Very good description.
Really nice to see some of the game shows before my birth. Really cool . the cloths, the way they talk, the hair cuts the style s etc 👍
This is the exact day my Father was born. I couldn't have been luckier.
Wow - in another time Mr Fogel would have been a super model
Only if he were interested
I worked with Steve and Eydie in Vegas decades ago. They got along beautifully on and off stage.
I always love it when Dorothy gets the giggles.
A few episodes ago, I asked if anyone else had noticed how giggly Dorothy seems to be these days. I don't know if she has a new love in her life or a new prescription, but she seems to really be enjoying herself recently. (I know I'm talking as if this was the present instead of 64 years ago, but I'm watching these in chronological order)
@@bluecamus5162SHE WAS TIPSY, AFTER DRINKING BEFORE THE LIVE SHIOW (10:30 PM, SUNDAY).
What a good-looking garbage collector! He would be in his 70's today.....
Dale Fogle 1931-2017
Back in the early 1980's, 6 of us sang backup for Steve and Eydie at the MGM Grand. Glorious Don Costa arrangements and a 60 piece orchestra. Class "A" all the way. Steve was all business like but Eydie was relaxed, down to earth and chatty. It was an extremely rare occasion that they used backups.We were introduced as "The Steve and Eydie's."
Cool
That's really quite neat. I gain from this that Steve was all business, assuming during rehearsals. My only comment is that I'm of the opinion that Steve was within the top 5 male vocalists of the 20th century. I'm just a fan.
Isn't that nice that Steve made Eydies life easier so that she could relax. He took the burden from her.
The garbage collector gets my vote for the most handsome male contestant to ever appear on the show.
Fun fact: The 2nd contestant, Mr. Nicholas W. Orloff, was later uncovered to be a KGB agent: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_W._Orloff
I’ve read a lot of spy novels. The best place for a spy to hide is right in the open, which I guess he did
So Bennett was right, he _did_ work for the government... the Soviet government.
Wow
OMG about Mr. Orloff. Thanks for the wikipedia link about him.
There were two UN interpreters on this episode. In addition to the second challenger, Eydie Gorme worked as a UN interpreter before her career took off.
What other language did Eydie speak?
@@MrThesper Spanish. She recorded traditional Latin American songs with the famed Mexican trio Los Panchos and became quite famous in all Latin America.
@@hyperbius760 Thanks for the info. :-)
@z The old adage applies: "Keep your friends close, and keep your enemies closer."
Steve and Eydie are WONDERFUL!
Best looking guy that was unknown other than this show. He could of had a career in show business or modeling
GORGEOUS
Yes, Martin Gabel was a looker alright.
Dale Fogle 1931-2017
John warned the panel to concentrate on the service for the garbage man, so of course they got 10 'nos' trying to nail down the product. Only Arlene finally started narrowing it down, but she didn't quite suss it out.
I love that when Eydie and Steve went on this show, they weren’t fighting over the spotlight.
I don't believe they ever did
While there have been long marriages in show business, that both partners worked together so closely for decades, raised a strong family, and had such deep love and admiration for each other is wonderful. Just 2 very decent people, down to earth and extremely talented.
"Mr Orloff, do you work?"
That was very funny!
I noticed before that when contestants occupation is finally revealed, Bennett seems to immediately review the questions he asked to see if he was satisfied with the accuracy of the answers. Obviously it irked him because here, 2 contestants later, he's still thinking about the interpreter. Just couldn't let it go lol.
His other funny quirk was trying to make a judgment based on where someone lived. While he indeed did seem to be aware of the major industry in any given area, it rarely worked to his advantage.
Personally, I find this trait of Bennett's annoying. It's as if he is always trying to prove that he is smarter than he looked because of misleading answers.
Steve Lawrence didn't even try to mask his voice and that was an easy giveaway
I thought that as well.
Nick Doe That’s funny, I thought he did. He pushes on his nose on one answer, hoses handover his mouth on another. It looks like he was having a great time. They were one of the great show business marriages.
@@dotsywotsy18 Yet he still sounded like he usually did.
I don't blame the odd celebrity that decided against sounding silly by putting on a funnt voice. Ricky Nelson also chose to speak normally.
Just like the celebrity guests were hesitant to respond that they were attractive or talented (John would always chime in and answer that question for them), one would think they also would consider it to an arrogant assumption that they were so famous that their mere voice would be instantly toy recognizable.
I listen to these two to this day.What a team.
Same day my dad was born... So cool
Miss Dorothy has the sweetest giggle
When you are Tipsy, you get the giggles.
The day after Eydie's 30th birthday.
such a classy couple.
I so love this show. And it so amazes me that Arlene Frances was married to Martin Gabel. That guy must've been something else behind the curtains... so to speak; because she is consistently quick, witty and stunning.
Are you implying that Martin was not also quick, witty, and stunning (at least stunning to some)?
Martin did not age as graciously as his wife but he had been a handsome young msn, and he was a quick wit. They clearly adored one another.
Steve and Eydie... Yes!
Steve and Eydie are the cutest!😚😚
*_Garbage Collector_*
*_United Nations Interpreter_*
*_Bus Conductor_*
Eydie Gorme turned 30 the day before that episode. Steve Lawrence was six years younger.
love them.
Gosh, this show was taped 2 days before I was born.
Best looking trash collector I’ve ever seen. I hope somebody recruited him as a model.
a garbage collector's brawn is most definitely a result of his hard labor. they really misled them on this one.
The garbage guy looks like a mix of Marlon Brando and James Dean.
I had to go back and look when I read this and, you are right!!!
With a little touch of Warren Beatty.
If we had garbage guys like that today , every woman would stand outside with their trash to hand it to them personally.
With some Montgomery Clift thrown in. He is stunning.
@@sbalman I was thinking Mark Ruffalo and Montgomery Clift
If you google the trash collector's name "Dale Fogle" it automatically adds "New Kensington, PA." If you hit enter it returns an address and even a phone number.
If that is the same guy it lists him as born in 1929.Assuming it's the same person that would make him 29 here.
There's an obit for a Dale Fogle from Garrett, PA that lists 1936 - 2013 (which would've had him live to 77). If this is the guy then he would be 22 here.
Dale Fogle 1931-2017 West Kensington. Tha one you found is someone else.
Was Eydie ever anything but stone cold beautiful.
Back then they were "Eydie and Steve". Later to become "Steve and Eydie". Originally, Edith Gorezano and Sidney Leibowitz
Imncredibly enough he, Steve Lawrence, is still alive, being born way back in 1935! She, Edie Gormet, died in august of 2013.
Gormezano. One of my aunts married into that family.
@@steveburrus9347Steve Lawrence has dementia. (12/1/23)
I don't usually indulge in the revisionist nonsense of "who or what has been underappreciated" but for Eydie Gorme I feel more than justified in doing so; in music history and culture, she has been truly under-rated. (Steve Lawrence, I can do without.) Ms. Gorme's vocal stylings and song arrangements are above par. I enjoy her records more than I do of Peggy Lee, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, et. al.
Sinatra loved them both, and said Steve had the best voice he had ever heard. I loved that they decided to forgo popular themed and devoted their act to preserve 'show' music, they remained steadfast and kept alive the works of the great songwriters of many Broadway shows.
One of my fav Arlene dresses
I remember 1958. I was 4 and I even remember the shampoo my mom used on us girls. It was called White Rain. Then she would use Swave hair cream to get the tangles out. I even remember how they smelt.
Arlene's dress! Wow.
Fee-lawns instead of felons? Really Bennett?
Bennett was incredulous that the final round came all the way back to him. Arlene guessed bus driver and as soon as she said bus the audience responded with heavy applause. When Arlene got the "no", Bennett put two and two together and realized it had to be something else to do with a bus.
Somehow Martin and Dorothy didn't get it. They were questioning about different kinds of drivers.
Damn audience
I was curious about the book Bennett mentioned. I found no reference to a book but several articles saying he was a KGB operative.
Not Bennent but Mr. Orloff. He also was born of Russian nobility.
Anyone Russian was accused of bring KGB - folk were seeing Reds under the bed everywhere.
I haven't seen a faster route to $50 on this show as I did with Mr. Orloff.
8:41 - fee- lons?
At first I thought he said felines, until he carried on with crooks and robbers!
when john flips a card it means the answer was no you would think dorothy would know the rules by now.
She was Tipsy, so her thinking was clouded.
It's the simplest occupations that sometimes seems to give the panel the most trouble.
The first contestant looks more likely to be a male model or a film star or have 1000 more occupations than the one he has!
They have many guests that come from England and other foreign shores and I wonder if the budget for the show extended to paying for these people to fly to the states or whether they were in the USA at the time. The production appears to be quite minimal in the costings so I often wondered if there was a high cost of putting people on the show. I can understand them flying them over and giving accommodation to guests from other states but wondered about the international guests and he budget there. Do you have any idea of the production costs for this show. love the show by the way and thanks for loading them
As I recall other game shows at that time, many guests were said to be "visiting". WML seemed to only include this info when it was important or newsworthy, and the panel didn't seem to care, Maybe our, "Channel Moderator" will enlighten us.
+mrpuniverse2 On some of the show, during the credits, the announcers says "transportation for contestants on What's My Line were arranged by United Airlines".
mrpuniverse2 I think I remember when someone from London was on the guest mentioned being interviewed at the airport. Maybe they scouted the arriving planes?
The bus conductor in this episode mentioned that she was in the U.S. on a five-week holiday, so I have to assume that she traveled at her own expense. It would be interesting to learn how the producers made contact with arriving visitors and chose unexpected occupations.
mrpuniverse2 From my old television days, we would pay for celebrities but not for non-celebrities. People would write in and say they would be visiting Los Angeles at such and such a time, etc. and we would interview them on the telephone. Possibly that’s what happened. At the end of WML, they usually say if you’d like to be a contestant, etc.
Aw! They are so cute! The Josh Dallas and Ginnifer Goodwin of their day!
Who?
Yet again, as at 24:28, Arlene knows when Navy folks are in town. (I confess, I can't find which fleet/task force this might be. The Nautilis arrived on August 24th, so it's not that. Anyone?)
juliansinger They all pored over all the newspapers, they knew everything that was going on.
I USE TO WONDER WHAT WAS THE ATTRACTION, THEY SEEMED SO DIFFERENT. I REALIZED THEY WERE WHAT THEIR ATTTACTION WAS GOOD FOR them!
Why are you SCREEMING your comment ????
Boy, Steve Lawrence sure didn't wanted to be there. He made it a point to not even disguise his voice. It's like he was thinking where's the exit elevator.
But why?
For someone who was married, Bennett Cerf sure did a lot of flirting.
Eydie Gormé had just turned 30 the day before.
Mr. Fogle was quite dashing, but if you notice when he departed, he was also fairly short--probably why he wasn't a model or something.
Always someone picking faults
Steve Lawrence didn’t disguise his voice. What was that all about?
I wonder if that couple would have got any respect had they sung rock and roll.
clearly francis feels she is above everyone
Dale Fogle was one handsome man!
Of course Bennett didn't like the new jazz. 😅 He was really becoming a stickler this year.
Steve Lawrence didn’t change his voice at all. Got to try to trick them.
Yes, the garbage collector was movie star handsome!
Mr Fogel can collect my garbage anytime.
Not sure if anyone will see this but I was confused on the interpreter guy. They said he was salaried, he did not work for profit making company, he did not work for a charity and he did not work for any branch of the Gov't. So who does he work for? If for himself, then it's a profit making organization isn't it? Although the best moment was Dorothy: Mr Orloff, do you work? Classic!
He works for the United Nations
There were some high IQs on that panel.
The garbage man is one of the best looking men ever!
Bus conductors in England got 5 consecutive weeks of vacation? That might even tempt Andy Capp to take that job.
She probably worked all her holidays and did overtime to save up the five weeks
Eydie looks like a cross between Arlene and Barbra Streisand.
Purple Capricorn -- We could possibly discuss a resemblance to Arlene, perhaps due to hairstyle and makeup more than anything else, but I see no resemblance to Babs whatever.
ToddSF 94109
When I "Bing-ed" her there are some pictures where I saw a resemblance. The picture used on her IMDB page is the one I say shows a resemblance.
Alot of the mystery guest I look them up because I wasn't born in those times. I grew up in the 90s and watched a lot of Disney and TvLand (when there were actually old shows like Leave it to Beaver, I love Lucy, The Andy Griffith Show, Emergency, Charlies Angels, Adam 12, Dragnet, etc....) I also listened to music from the 50s, 60 and 70s a kid/teen. Those were good eras tv, music and movie-wise. I started watcing WML clips of some of my favorite actors/actresses,but recently started watching full episodes. I didn't like older games hows,but there is something about this one that I really love and I'm sure it was because of Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf and John Daly....sometimes Dorothy.
+Purple Capricorn I thought Eydie looked more like Annette Funicello here! At any rate Steve and Eydie were very cute newlyweds. A very good match in talent and looks.
You have lost your mind if you think Arlene and Barbra are at Eydie s level of beauty
Um is a conductor not a driver? I mean clearly not explicashion plis?
Dale Fogle 1931 to 2017 had a pretty large family.
He was handsome.
Steve Lawrence didn't disguise his voice.
True class all the way around.
Steve Lawrence.. you are not good at disguise your voice.. you both were made for each other
There is definitely a Brandoesque handsomeness to Dale Fogle, the garbage collector. Definitely was in the wrong field. Actor/model? Yes!.
You can't approve when Arlene compliments the beauty of the male contestants if you condemn Bennett when he does the same with the female contestants.
They both mentioned the extraordinary good looks of any contestant, to see if that had any relationship to their professions.
This is one that Bennett said they knew who was on but they dragged it out, whereas Dorothy likes the spotlight!!! What a camera hog!!
that Is her nature
best of times, not the shit of today
The hosts talk too much!!!
Bennett's demeanor tonight was particularly distasteful. Besides asking last week's pajama model to send in her telephone number, he was a sore loser twice. When the first contestant was revealed, Bennett had a look of disdain on his face that could have rivaled Queen Victoria's "We are not amused." When he got Orloff wrong, he started off the second round by saying he wanted an honest answer from John this time, and halfway through that guest, he was still complaining about how that was resolved. Bennett often challenges John's rulings after he gets a "no" and he is always wrong. But Bennett's ego can never get him to admit that he is ever wrong -- it is always John's fault. It is true that John sometimes answers in a truthful but misleading way, and sometimes he answers incorrectly, but he is not dishonest. Bennett never thinks he could be wrong.
His leering and inappropriate comments to women were distasteful. Q. Victoria actually stated that she never said that, Princess Alice specifically asked her.
I find Bennett to be rather childish. And he thinks he's brilliant and important. But he's not. He's one of my least favorite panelists, but I know he's popular with most here.
Arlene was waaaay too hot for Fred!
Fred who?
Arlene shook his hand and then shook out her hands as though to get the germs off her white gloves!
I got the impression she shook out her hand because he squeezed it to hard and she was in pain.
poetcomic1 I noticed that too. Amazing how some of them act when occupations are less than what they consider equal to them
poetcomic1 I thought he squeezed it too hard
poetcomic1 Two friends were over tonight, and when they saw her shake her head, they both said that they felt it was because he was so hot her hand was burned
Fee-Lon’s? Really bennet? What an elitist. But then he also pronounces rodeo as Ro-day-0. East coast snob.
He also pronounced "modicum" and "roster" with long "o"'s.
That was just his accent. We all have one, and they are all different.
And yet Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills is pronounced the same way - Ro-DAY-oh.
Ya know , SERIOUSLY! I'm really surprised that the producers of this show didn't tell John off for always flipping this stupid cards when he shouldn't have (and he does that ALL the time). Ruins the ENTIRE show! (especially when the person has 30 dollars ALREADY)!
Krista Brewer He would get cues from the director on timing. They had to make sure they gave enough time for the mystery guest and at the end of the show to say good night.
It was over 60 years ago, lady. Let it rest.
Wow, you need to chill.
Are you drunk or have a chip on your shoulder ???????
Jeff chandler, Paul Newman, he is a handsome mix