What's My Line? - Anna Maria Alberghetti; Victor Borge [panel] (Nov 23, 1958)
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- MYSTERY GUEST: Anna Maria Alberghetti [Italian operatic singer/actress]
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Victor Borge, Dorothy Kilgallen, Bennett Cerf
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Wonderful how John truly enjoys each guest. What a pleasure to watch this show nightly.
Great episode, as usual, but I've seen so many from this season now that one almost forgets (until you're reminded) what a remarkable, gracious, and bright man John Daly was. From respectfully speaking on behalf of Major General Briggs, to fielding sexual innuendo, to ribbing the panel, to making everyone (even those guests always rushed at the end) feel appreciated. He was the ultimate "class-act".
Agreed. He made hosting look so easy, but as Bennett Cerf demonstrated, it's definitely no walk in the park.
Very well said.
Each and every point
I find him an exceptionally sensual man. Even his body language. Such as putting up his expressive hands to whisper . . most graceful, fluid and alluring
It's just a natural force in him I havnt observed before.
@@Deejaay83urj38 I think I commented elsewhere (another WML episode) that I love when he occasionally collapses with laughter INTO the mystery guest seated next to him! He just leans on them, laughing!
This was usually with celebrities he may have known socially, but sometimes even with a civilian career guest, and it's lovely because he was so formal in every other way, but this seems his very natural way of sharing his joy in that moment with the guest!
"Sensual" is a perfect description because John Charles Daly was the ultimate pro broadcaster / host, but he also seems warm as an oven(!), and he always made sure to make everyone else feel and look good on the show.
I do love him as well but interestingly he was a little “off” tonight! He allowed a ‘yes’ for the question: can your product (pizza) be put in the mail? LOL and he also allowed Bennett to ask the mystery guest a “either or” question (not a yes or no).
No biggie… just interesting. He always had so much going on I wouldn’t blame him for being distracted! ❤️
He reminds me of my grandfather, Dutch-American man born in the 1940’s…a dime store version, but I imagine him watching this and idolizing John Daly-they have a similar smile and tone and that teenage self-satisfied grin after a joke.
As usual - Arlene and Dorothy look amazing.
I feel as though WML was at its peak right now. The show was "cooking", the pace brisk and the general feeling was up. This was a wonderful show, but seeing it now--with all the great artists who have left us, (many ONLY letting us see their true personalities on THIS show) it is an unsurpassed time capsule. Many thanks.
I think you've hit the nail on the head with both the time capsule aspect and the fact that we are seeing the artists as themselves. WML is an absolutely priceless cultural repository. What a blessing that most episodes were preserved!
I'm enthusiastic about this era of WML too, but I wouldn't pick this episode as a good example of the peak. The panel was confused about the armed services (reorganized in 1947) and disrespectful to the pizza maker (even John, usually very tactful, said he wouldn't eat one knowing what went into it). Victor Borge didn't seem to want to play the game. The MG was recognized based on insider information that wouldn't have been known to the viewing audience. There are lots of better examples of skillful game play.
@@neilmidkiff I appreciate your insights, Neil, and you sound like more than a passing fan of this show. I agree Borge is not a good fit. The show often tried people--Wally Cox, Margaret Truman come too mind--that were duds as game players. Still, we can agree this was a good era for the show, a sort of "no miss" late-night television that appealed to the intellect and the joy of repartee.
You mentioned "all of the great artists who have left us." I wonder if any panelists or mystery guests from the 1950-1967 What's My Line are still alive in 2021? The only one I can think of is Betty White, though there might be others (surely not many though).
Sorry to be so offtopic but does anybody know a trick to log back into an Instagram account??
I was dumb lost my account password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me!
Dorothy was so cute when she said, "I know a girl who's in love with one of your cadets."
I commented a year ago and just got directed here....Strange to find all the petty bickering going on. I grew up with these shows, I Love Bennett...I can understand everything he says, I Love his Dumb Jokes, so endearing...I Appreciate this series and the work involved to put it here. Thank You W. Gary for All You Do
LISTEN TO LOUIE PRIMA SING, ANGELINA THE WAITRESS AT THE "PITT-ZERIA", 1944
There are minor skirmishes from time to time, but they don't last long. :) Thanks for the comment, Jay!
JAY TERRY I take these shows in the rime context they occurred. During the 1950's things were different I presume and quite honestly I think most of the panels comments were said in benign fun and happiness. I enjoy the innocence of the period.
How lovely a lady is Anna Marie, and her singing equally so...
I could never figure out why she wasn't more famous, she should've been.
@@markxxx21 I knew Anna Maria during my own entertainment years. It was her decision to be less visible. Many make the same choice.
I love Victor Borge's presence! 😄 His disruptive participation is refreshing, 🌞
1958-59 was the year of the Air Force Academy's first graduation class. This class began as incoming cadets at Lowry Air Force Base in Denver as the permanent facility at Colorado Springs had not been completed yet. The Colorado Springs campus was officially opened three months before this program aired. Gen. James Briggs (West Point '28) was the second Superintendent of the Air Force Academy. He held the position from 1956-59.
Even though I was only 6 years old at the time, I was precocious enough and had an older brother interested enough in college football to know that Air Force was a newcomer to the college football ranks. Their football stadium (Falcon Stadium) wasn't completed until 1962, so they played most of their home games at Denver University's stadium. They were not part of a conference at the time. The day before this episode aired, they defeated the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, 45-7. Previously, they beat the University of Detroit (road) 37-6, tied Iowa (road) 13-13 [Iowa was Big 10 champions and won the Rose Bowl that season], beat Colorado State (home) 36-6, beat Stanford (road) 16-0, beat Utah (home) 16-14, beat Oklahoma State (road) 33-29. beat Denver 10-7, and beat Wyoming (home) 21-6. They had one more regular season game after this, traveling up the road to Boulder to beat the University of Colorado, 20-14. Iowa was the only ranked team they played, but they played enough schools from big conferences and their performance against the Big 10 champs was enough for them to be ranked 8th at the end of the regular season and earn them the first bowl bid in their school's history.
In the Cotton Bowl against TCU that year, they battled to a scoreless tie in a sloppy game under chilly conditions (it snowed two days earlier) and sunny skies. The Horned Frogs were 8-2 on the regular season, but received the nod to play on New Year's Day as Southwest Conference champs. They also played Iowa and had lost 17-0.
Although I didn't remember the details, I remember the game because scoreless ties were rare and it was a novelty for Air Force to be there. There were 6 turnovers on fumbles (3 for each team and 13 fumbles total), Air Force passes were intercepted twice and five missed field goals. Air Force's kicker missed a 22 yard attempt and two others. There were also 16 punts during the game and only 22 first downs.
Air Force football began play in 1955, playing other freshman teams as their initial year had only a freshman class. They were 4-4 that year. In 1956, their first year playing a varsity schedule, they won 6 games and tied 1 against smaller schools and lost their last 2 games of the year against larger schools (Idaho State and Brigham Young). In 1957, playing 9 of their 10 games against major colleges, they struggled to a 3-6-1 record. So their success in 1958 under first year coach Ben Martin was quite a surprise. He came over after two losing seasons at the University of Virginia. He went on to coach Air Force for 20 years.
Army was actually higher ranked in 1958, given the #3 position in the polls with an 8-0-1 record, including victories over nationally ranked South Carolina and Notre Dame. But Army was declining bowl bids at that time.
The Air Force Academy fielded it's first football team in 1957, already at the major college level. In their second year, 1958 they went 9-0-1 in the regular season, being tied by second-ranked Iowa. the went to the Cotton Bowl where they suffered another tie, 0-0 no less to finish 9-0-2. they've never had a record that good since, although they've had many fine teams.
My brother had his first wedding in the chapel at the school. Quite a remarkable building.
I had no idea the purple people eater song happened in 1958; I thought it was later. Wow. (Sorry; Victor Borge mentions it at 25:08 or so, and I had to check and see if there was some purple people eater antecedent I was unaware of. Nope!)
Song: ruclips.net/video/X9H_cI_WCnEc/видео.html
Performed by singer, songwriter, and actor Sheb Wooley. He played outlaw Ben Miller in High Noon and drover Pete Nolan on the Rawhide TV series. My older brother had this 45 in his collection, and we listened to it frequently.
Victor Borge as a panelist; how fun. I saw him live.
Me too! Such a musical and comedy delight.
I love Victor Borge he’s not clueless he’s there for comic relief
He's completely useless.
@@peternagy-im4be that's subjective. It's also not that serious. The point of the show was to have fun.
Victors schtick is always great, "clueless" or not lol
It's a great thing to hide behind whenever the English language is an issue for him.
It is not clear to me whether it was the case in 1958, but for much of the 1950s, the Latin Quarter, where Miss Alberghetti was performing at the time (but not that night) was owned by Lou Walters, the father of Barbara Walters. The Latin Quarter was located on Times Square and the famous Coca-Cola neon sign was located above the club. Walters had financial difficulties operating the club at different times, and nearly killed himself over them.
Victoria Borge. What a treat. Brilliant man
He's an unfunny clown.
The complaints about Victor Borge are a helpful reminder that a significant portion of the population lacks a sense of humor.
Oh, wow, and Johnnie Ray is mentioned here, Dorothy's newspaper item about him, so this must have been during that time when she was chasing after him. I read so many disparaging comments about Dorothy on these message boards, but I remember when her father appeared on the show and she was like an adoring little girl in his presence, and I think she did struggle with the idea that she wasn't terribly attractive, and I like to watch her mind at work; you really get a sense of that bloodhound reporter instinct. Also, I like to watch her watch after the mystery guest week after week, always that head turn as the guest passes her, and even Bennett said that while she wrote "that awful column," she was personally "very nice." It was her conservative politics he didn't like, and her camera hogging, and as has been pointed out many times here, that he and Arlene and John were wary of speaking candidly around her for fear that it would end up in the awful column. But I don't think he *hated* Dorothy; he just had these misgivings about her. It's the chemistry of the show that ultimately makes it for me, and Dorothy and Bennett and Arlene and John had it together, and occasionally they had it with a fourth panelist. When one of the regulars is absent on a show, I watch with less interest than I do when the true panel is intact.
I like her a lot. Maybe she's not the world's greatest beauty, but I think she's attractive.
I do too. I wasn't trying to say she was unattractive, only that she struggled with the idea that she was.
Victor Borge was not a good panelist, but he was brilliant and hilarious in his own performances.
Victor asks if the General is in education, then the panel skirts all around tbat & takes a long road back..
"I Didn't Call for the Conference.. ,!😃😄🤠😌😌😌"
😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣😂
I wonder how Dorothy knew Johnny Ray had only 10 minutes to gather his things to substitute for Ms. Alberghetti. lol
They were having an affair at this time
It's why she seemed so upbeat on the show at the time....more talkative. Smiling, happy
@@gailsirois7175 I'm aware. I was making a joke but apparently the art of sarcasm is a lost art on the internet. (Then again i would have thought the "lol" would have given it away.)
@@cuttersboi08 sorry...that's happened to me too...😉
@@cuttersboi08: I got it. ;)
When Bennett said the Airforce was part of the Army, I thought that general was gonna strangle him lol
The Air Force became a separate branch in 1947. Before that it was the Army Air Corps, so Bennett was only about 11 years behind in his understanding.
@@mikejschin - you would think an editor would know these things.
so if someone wrote a book where the main character was an Airforce General with a son in the Army, Bennet would change it to an army General with a son under his command?
@@MrYfrank14 I greatly admire Bennett's stature as probably the pre-eminent American publisher of the 20th century, but he was woefully uninformed in so many areas. He explained in his memoirs that at a young age he determined not to seek out information that did not have a clear benefit to him. It appears that he stuck to that decision throughout his life.
Mrs Harding the pizza maker reminds me somewhat of Elizabeth Montgomery.
True.
Another example of Bennett mangling the English language to either get a joke or that's the way he really does pronounce the word pizza
LOL PITTS ZA LOL
When I see Miss FRANCIS' NECKLACE, I CRY SOMETIMES.
why?
@@nandofigueira2005
Her husband Martin Gabel gave her the necklace on their first anniversary. It was ripped off her neck, after Martin died, as she was getting out of a car.
If Bennett pronounces it "pitza"one more time I'm going to find a time machine and go back to the late fifties of slap him.
He drove me bonkers every time he pronounced Los Ang-GUH-leeze that way too. For someone so proud of the dictionary he mispronounced quite a few words.
Pita is the correct pronunciation, if you want to pronounce it in its native Italian, and not Americanize it.
@@keitholoughlin354 I am Italian and that's not true at all.
He is annoying with his wrong pronunciations. How could anyone at that time say Una tass instead of Unitas?
@@lilybean835 At one time, that WAS how Los Angeles was pronounced.
The term Pizza pie is not used very often anymore, like Cellular phone.
Not since Dean Martin's rendition of let the moon hit your eye like a big-a-pizza pie, "That's Amore," ran its course.
But for some reason people still say "tuna fish sandwich." We all know tuna is a fish, so why say it?
Or "carbohydrates". Just "carbs". I have a theory that in five years, only a handful of us Americans will know what the term "carb" is short for.
I grew up in New Orleans. My aunt owned Philips restaurant. We called pizza 'pies'; we even had a neon sign in the window stating this fact. Best pizzas I have ever had. Especially her meatball pizzas, she marinated her meatballs in marsella wine before baking them. YUM!
It's the GOOD SEASONS lady herself--the wonderful Anna Maria Alberghetti!!! BRAVA!!! :) :) :) :)
It's February 8, 2023, and Anna Maria Alberghetti is 86 years old. She'll be 87 on May 15th.
Pitza? Was Bennett related to Ricky Ricardo?
Pizza for Christmas? Victor, bless your heart.
He's an a$$hole and not funny at all
@@taboracho621 He could be funny on his own shows. This was a really bad fit for him.
@What's My Line? - Aha, this is the first time I've noticed this, so must ask if you have, too? I have often been convinced that Arlene had a diamond pendant that she wore around her neck on rare occasions that was slightly larger than the one she usually wore that had the diamond drop dangling within it from time to time. Then I noticed she sometimes had the heart on a bracelet instead of around her neck and it looked larger on the bracelet. Now I see in this episode that my poor eyesight is not failing me. She has the diamond pendant with the dangle in it around her neck and a somewhat larger diamond heart hanging from the diamond tennis bracelet on her right arm that I have other times noted on her left arm. So she does have two diamond hearts and the one presently on the bracelet is a bit larger than the one on the necklace, but sometimes I believe she wears it on the chain around her neck depending upon how it suits her outfit. I do not pay a lot of attention to the jewels and clothes on this show, but I do notice them and felt like a nutjob all this time for "imagining" that I saw a different, larger diamond heart sometimes on her necklace. Have others noted it?
I always look at her heart pendant, because there is a sentimental history about it, but fail to note its size or anything next to it. Maybe she had different "paste" jewelry that fitted better with different costumes?
27:09
*_Superintendent of U.S. Air Force Academy_*
*_Makes Pizza Pies_*
*_7th Grade School Teacher_* (he could have been Victor Buono's brother)
It's hard to believe that Bennett thought that the U.S. Air Force was still a division of the U.S. Army. The U.S. Air Force became a separate branch of the military in its own right in 1947, having been the U.S. Army Air Forces immediately prior to that. After 11 years as its own independent branch of the military, alongside the Army and the Navy (the Marines being a branch of the Navy), I would have thought everyone would have known that by 1958. The U.S. Air Force Academy began in 1954. I'm surprised none of the panelists could figure out the name -- there was and is the U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis, and the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, so the U.S. Air Force Academy as a name shouldn't have been so hard to figure out.
+ToddSF 94109 Keep in mind, the WML cast were mostly Park Avenue (or Mount Kisco) dilettantes. They wouldn't know.
Did I miss something? I thought that the pizza woman said her product could be sent by mail?
Victor is really funny.
I would have honestly loved to see both Victor & Groucho Marx on the panel at the same time.
Every one else would be effectively muted.
Nothing would be accomplished. They were funny on their own, but not a good fit for this show.
I chiefly remember Ms. Alberghetti for her recordings of two carols by Alfred S. Burt for the Goodyear/Columbia Special Products album "The Great Songs of Christmas, Album 5". She did a great job singing those carols.
There were two people who had no business as panelists on this show. Victor Borge was one of them and the other one
was Groucho Marx. While I liked each of their individual comedy talent, all they did on this show was waste air time
by constantly joking and interrupting when they should have been quiet.
One of the things they should have never started on this show was these conferences among the panelists when they got
stuck. All in all, it was a great show and nobody could emcee a show better than John Daly. And as usual, Bennett could
not keep his mouth shut when someone else was questioning the contestant.
born in 1936, Anna Maria Alberghetti is 87 years old now.
I absolutely adore Victor Borge. He was so funny and talented
Funny how? The way he talks? I mean i might be a little effed up here but how exactly is he funny?
@@peternagy-im4be You're extremely effed up. You obviously haven't seen one of his live performances; in which case, RUclips one. You'll get it. In addition to his talent on the piano, Victor Borge is one of the most brilliant and innovative comedic talents ever to grace a stage.
@@yankee2666 Have a great day.
funny, how so?
Barbara Harding resembles Elizabeth Montgomery.
28 Barbary Lane my thoughts exactly 👍🏼
Definitely one of the most beautiful guests they ever had on the show.
Facially, Anna Maria Alberghetti reminds me a lot of Madonna twenty or thirty years ago, though of course she seems much sweeter and more demure.
I saw that immediately! Must have some common ancestry in Italy.
Once again Bennett Cerf shows his general ignorance. The Air Force hasn't been a part of the Army since the 40s, after WWII.
1947 to be precise. I found his insult to the pizza pie maker particularly offending. Thankfully Mr. Daly immediately stepped in.
Bennett must have just come from the dentist. His brain was not with his body this night.
"pit-zuhs" --Bennett Cerf
HORRENDOUS!
I have mixed feelings of this episode. I really enjoyed the first guest. I do feel that Bennett Cerif, who is one of my favorite panelists, made a rude comment to the pizza maker.
It was not considered rude back then to appreciate a woman who had the figure and looks and was dressed to attract that same kind of attention. Whistles were o.k. and not resented by the "whistlees" in those days. His comment would not have been considered rude by anyone, either.
Absolute nonsense he did nothing of the sort
He certainly did insult her and any other culinary artist.
Here is what I will try to always remember about Bennett Cerf (thanks to Wiki) because it is directly connected to the roots, if not all of modern literature and much of culture in the 20th century:
"In 1933, Cerf won United States v. One Book Called Ulysses, a landmark court case against government censorship, and thereafter he published James Joyce's unabridged Ulysses for the first time in the United States."
[Note: Ulysses had been ruled "a work of obscenity" and banned in the US after just one chapter was published in a magazine.]
"In 1933, Random House had the rights to publish the book in the United
States, and they arranged for a test case to challenge the implicit ban
so as to publish the work without fear of prosecution. The publisher therefore made an arrangement to import the French edition of the book and to have a copy seized by the United States Customs Service when the ship arrived carrying the work. Despite advance warning to Customs of the anticipated arrival of the book, the local official
declined to confiscate it, stating that "everybody brings that in." He
and his superior were finally convinced to seize the work. The United
States Attorney then took seven months before deciding whether to
proceed further. The Assistant U.S. Attorney assigned to assess the
work's obscenity felt that it was a "literary masterpiece"-yet he also
found it obscene within the meaning of the law. The office, therefore,
decided to take action against the work under the provisions of the
Tariff Act of 1930, which allowed a district attorney to bring action."
And apparently Cerf won a ruling against the government. It was 13 years since Ulysses was first published, but still, kind of a landmark and a coup to get the English version sales in the US.
As far as "waste of beauty" - "pretty as a pizza" sort of remarks by Cerf and Daly, ick.! Patronizing and sexist or not, it's creepy.
D Mann, I think Bennett was making a pun on "pretty as a 'picture.'" Sometimes, his puns are quite a reach!
Ahhhh, give us a
break! It was just a
little light-weight inno
cent humor. Cerf's
attempts at
humor usually fall
flat to me, but his
"she's as pretty as a
pizza" comment was
truly memorable. The
woman in question was more appealing looking than about
80% of the bottle
blonde bombshells
in Hollywood! Lastly,
sometimes I wish
someone would hit
Borge with a cattle
prod to get him mov-
ing on with the questions. Now if it
were someone who
was remarkably
hilarious, such as
Jack E. Lenoard, it
would be a different
matter. Or Steve Allen, another genius
level wit but with
enough consideration
to limit himself to
one quip or two.
Very interesting.
They wanted that particular copy seized because they had stuffed it with various literary reviews. It was the only way to get those reviews and opinions into court.
he pronounces PIZZA, PIT SA.
he didn't she was "as pretty as a PIZZA", he said pretty as a PIT SA." a pun on PICTURE.
why did john allow bennett to get away with a question that did not require a 'yes-no' answer- 'would you take out an ad about yourself in variety or wall street journal?' and she answered 'variety'. how did he get away with that? john always reminded others that it has to be a 'yes-no' question.
Listen again at 20:01. Bennett asks if her hypothetical ad would be *more likely* in Variety than in the WSJ. That can and should have been answered "Yes".
@@neilmidkiff Bennett said 'would it be more likely in Variety or the W.S.J.?'
@@garyranieri3856 I hear him saying "than", not "or" as you transcribe it.
@@neilmidkiff It's possible-nut sure
Reaad that 'not sure'
There is no pizza pie. Pizza means pie.
I'm guessing pizza was not all that common in America and universally popular in 1958 as it is now? (Who calls them pies now--except when you say let's go out and get some pie people assume you mean pizza often as not.) Were there even any national pizza 🍕 chains then?
If only there was some way of looking things like that up on the internet…. Oh, wait….
pit- sa pies.
where is Bennet's accent from?
The east coast lol
@@sandrageorge3488 - i live in CT and i never heard pizza pronounced that way.
@violamateo - Bennet pronounces many words in a way i have never heard before.
John said to Bennet once, “…with your lovely Boston accent”, so I supposed he was from Boston., MA, with a bit of his own personal individualism as well.
@@MrYfrank14 AGREED! Complete DOLT!
An unusual episode in tha Arlene is in the number one chair and Dotty is in the number three chair .
You are partly correct. For several years at the beginning, Dorothy was always seated in the #1 chair and Arlene in the #3 chair. Somewhere around the time that the panel began making introductory entrances from behind the curtain (1956), the ladies began alternating and continued to do so until Dorothy's death. Arlene took over the #1 chair after that...for the most part.
@@gbrumburgh You have a sharp eye my fellow WML fan . Tell us this , I seemed to remember Hal Block and then Bennett Cerf sitting in the #4 chair to introduce Mr. Daly . If you remember others please let us know .
@JJJBRICE Steve Allen and Fred Allen took the #2 chair and Bennett took the #2 chair when he first started with Hal Block who was in the #4 chair.
The lovely blonde pizza pie cook looks to me like Sue Ane Langdon.
Dorothy jumps out of turn a lot but a great player,
Theres no way Dottie knew that!
The mystery guest coughs on her hand then shook hands with the panelist
And why not?
Its ok, they are all dead now.
@@thesweeples3266Hilarious!
Maybe that's what killed them.
funny how Bennett pronounces it pitza not pizza
_Are you in an active unit of the armed forces?_
Anna M Alberghetti looks like a young Madonna
Is it me or does Anna Maria Alberghetti look like a young Madonna?
I noticed that. I just hope that that's where the similarity ends.
Why can’t Bennett say pizza!
Panel had class, the audience doesn’t!
Wrong again.
Victor is fun but to suit his style of questioning he really needed just one contestant per half an hour.
Bennet seemed a bit, uh... detached. Mrs. Harding was a doll.
15:32 Pizza can't be sent through the mail?
You haven't gotten yours yet?
Why was Victor Borge there?
Why not? They’ve had guest panelists all through the years.
He must have paid them to appear because he's a prize chump
WHAT is WRONG with Bennett Cerf? It can't be his speech impediment. But his pronunciations, here and in many other episodes is ATROCIOUS! e.g. PITZAS? oy gevalt! Horrible example for a book publisher to get so many words wrong!
I think Bennett learned new words by reading them, rather than hearing them spoken. This is a pattern with him.
He is pronouncing it closer to how Italians pronounce it … not like how your Pizza Hut commercials do.
@@thesweeples3266 Not really - his mistake is the "I" sound in Italian which is sounds like "EE" not like in PITS as he does. :)
Cerf insisted in mispronouncing the word Pizza (PETSA)
In all fairness, his pronunciation is closer to the original Italian pronunciation of the word
Strange the PIZZA came up so fast, too bad on "really meant", these are cosmopolitan educated Panelists. Victor Borge was pushing too much. Not loads of fun, with too much knowledge. He could of had his real hair beard in pocket, could help as teacher.... Not a good one :(
The show was fixed.
I love Victor Borge's humor but that doesn't make him a good panelist. He's very frustrating! 😖
Victor Borge was one of those unrestrained comics like Groucho Marx, Milton Berle and Wally Cox who, quite painfully, simply could not control themselves and hurt the flow of the show. Funny maybe 20% of the time. They could have learned a thing or two about self-control from Joey Bishop.or Buddy Hackett.
Bennett the publisher, who supposedly knows his words and pronunciations - says @ 17:17 - "Mrs. Harding I rather gather that you have got something to do with Pittsa Pies"…….. Pittsa Pies?? ROTFL…..and he says it at 3 different times. Did he honesty think a Pizza is a …..Pittsa?? And even later in the show he refers to Mr. "Tapper" as Mr. "Capper" not once…but twice! What was wrong with Bennett on this episode?
According to Wikipedia (I'm Swedish, so I don't know), the Italian pronunciation is ['pittsa]…
Bennett was an American living in the United States. No American or North American would ever say "Pittsa". Ever
A couple of weeks earlier he pronounced the word "demise" as "demeese" which is odd for somebody that deals in books to make such a mistake. The WML paneled teased him about so it's not like he did it by accident.
Cerff also pronounced anniversary as "aniVOWSOWY", so I think he had a tiny bit of speech impediment.
They all previously pronounced Pittsa correctly. The "demeese" was meant to rhyme with chemise, the dress style Bennett hated so much. Bennett does have a way of pronunciation ...as a New York person, I would call it a "Queens Accent".
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Bennett?....pitza pie??
Victor Borge is hilarious but frankly the worst panelist in the history of What's My Line. He is absolutely clueless about what to ask. He is great for a laugh, however.
You must not have seen the episode with Wally Cox. Cox literally just sat there staring into space for long moments. At least Borge asked some questions, and even got a yes.
Jonathan C I think he was getting upset because he was getting so many yeses to his questions. He finally passed.
Groucho Marx gets my vote for Worst Panelist.
@@nancypine9952 Totally agreed. Wally Cox was horrible. So was the guy married to Mia Farrow who was not Frank Sinatra, forgot his name. Woody Allen maybe? Dreadful. Robert Q wasn't too good either but doable. And definitely Groucho Marx. He ruined every show he was in. Nothing was funny, he was too disruptive and didn't play the game.
@@ladya1953 Faith, I am glad that somebody agrees with me on this point. While I love his style of comedy and he
was good on "You Bet Your Life", he had no business being on this or any other game show. He was constantly
interrupting and joking and did nothing but waste air time. He did the same kind of crap if he was on a talk show.
He would constantly butt in when the host was talking to another guest and ruined it for everyone. I believe it was
on the "Dick Cavett" show, after his slot was finished, Dick had Truman Capote on. Truman could hardly get a word
in with a wedge because Groucho was constantly putting in his two cents worth. That is also on you-tube.
I felt the same way about Victor Borge. He offered nothing for the show.
Victor Borge is an unfunny time waster. Hate it when he's on the panel.
Victor could be a real nuisance.
Yeah. All that cheerful, high-spirited jocularity. Who needs it.
@@shuroom57 Indeed!
"She's as pretty as a pizza" OUCH It sounds like he meant it as a compliment. . .but. . .people are called 'pizza face' and its *NOT* a compliment. lol Sort of funny how insulting they can come across watching it 50-60 years later.
On the topic of pronunciations, I also find it hilarious how they say (not on this episode, but others) that the 'ro-DAY-oh' is in town, rather than the 'ro-dee-OH' that is more common. (At least I think its more common. I've never heard it the other way in all my life! :D)
Ro-DAY-oh is a closer approximation to the Spanish origin of the word, and it's an alternate pronunciation in every dictionary I've used.
I wish the audience wouldn't whistle like that at attractive women contestants.
I would love women whistle at me!
Do heartfelt simple complements to others always effect you that way?
Both Bennett Cerf and John Daly enjoy a good laugh, but when it comes to their own jokes, they've got the sense of humor of a 3rd grader. They're just not funny. That's not a criticism, but rather an observation.
Jeff Vaughn -- Not funny to you, anyway. You're entitled to your opinion, of course.
ToddSF 94109 I love their rather innocent sense of humor!
Well what do you want to do? Lean on 'em? Maybe send a message? Better hurry up, because they've been dead a long time.
Victor tries too hard to be funny....and Miss Alberghetti was a cutie!!
I'm sooooooo embarrassed to be Danish... ..
Lars Rye Jeppesen - You just made me laugh out loud in my dining room. :D
Victor Borge was truly one of the most boring untalented performers ever to be a panelist.Always scene stealing and never listening to anyone else except himself.
@brucemarsico6: Funny, people who know you say the same thing. Boring, dull, not funny, a wet blanket, etc.
Victor Borge - another "comic' who is boorish & unfunny, with or without a script.
Audiences of the 50's were easily amused.
I feel the same about Jerry Lewis and Bob Hope.
Victor Borge is so annoying
I FF a when he’s talking. I can’t stand him neither !
Oscar looks and sounds like Victor Bueno.
Dorothy is really starting to be hyper competitive on this show. She is yelling at Bennett and pushing Arlene around in her quest to win. I noticed starting around mid 1958 she started taking the game way too seriously, really pushing to win every time.
I agree, she's there to win not to have fun. Every time it's her turn to ask questions I know the fun is over as she most likely will guess and win.
It takes all kinds. That makes it a well rounded show. If we had four Buddy Hackets on the panel, there would be chaos. And you can get that ANYWHERE. Can't have a food fight unless somebody bakes the pies.