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What's My Line? - Althea Gibson; George Sanders [panel] (Aug 10, 1958)
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2014
- MYSTERY GUEST: Althea Gibson [tennis player and professional golfer, and the first black athlete of either gender to win a Grand Slam title, in 1956]
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, George Sanders, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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Contestant number 2, for August 10, 1958, Florence Martin, is my Mom! She's gone now, but she became Mrs. Sidney Dry. She was a Model, and an Artist, and a beautiful Mom.
+Penny Klyber Thank you for your input! I've always been more interested in the "ordinary contestants" on this show than in the "Mystery Guests." I hope your mom had a happy life and went on to something beyond pyjama modelling.
+oldfart4751 Seemed more 'humorously irked' to me.
I still really think Daly should've just figured out what to call them offscreen, but if he wasn't going to, then he did have to ask, because there were two options for women.
+519DJW As the youngest of 10, she was finally able to go to college later in her life and get her degree in design. She lived a long and very happy life.
Pajama models would show the 'line' to prospective wholesale buyers. Think of the Sleep-Tite Pajama Factory in movie The Pajama Game.
Mom was the only Model that worked full time for Marshall Fields in the Night Time Lingerie department. She walked the floor daily in whatever was the newest ensemble at the time. She did this for many years.
What a charming mystery guest Althea Gibson was.
Althea was quite beautiful and multitalented! An impressive woman! Lovely voice 🥰
It's tough enough to compete in sports, especially against elite competition. To succeed with the added pressure of being a trailblazer, while dealing with prejudice and the hopes of your people on your shoulders takes a remarkable champion. To do it with grace takes a remarkable person. Althea Gibson was all those things.
Very nicely stated. And all of it applies equally to Jackie Robinson. It's impossible for any of us to understand the immense pressure he must have been under. I maintain that the most courageous moment in sports in the 20th century was when he took the field in Brooklyn on that April afternoon in 1947.
I completely agree with you Lois....although I could not state it as eloquently as you. (Is it just me, or do her facial features remind one of Tiger Woods?)
@@robertfiller8634 Tiger: ancestry in terms of degrees: 1 S E Asian, 2 Caucasian, 3 Native American and Black African. Tiger is basically a Eurasian Buddhist.
"Her people"meaning 'women'?
@@mikejschin Although I was not alive in 1947, as a lifelong Dodger fan, the legacy of Jackie Robinson is very special to me. You are correct that what I wrote about Althea Gibson very much applies to him.
The year after this appearance, Althea GIbson acted in the John Ford/John Wayne Civil War movie, "Horse Soldiers." Her character was a slave and the screenplay called for her to play the part with a stereotypical dialect. According to TCM, she told Ford that she would not play the character that way and, uncharacteristically, he acceded to her wishes. So far as I can tell, that was her one and only acting performance.
LOVE Althea Gibson. Twenty years later she competed on Superstars on ABC, and did quite well even though she was much older than everyone else.
My mother was also name after Ms Gibson. My Grandfather was very big tennis fan in her early days when she played in ATA (American Tennis Association) which was formed at the time because people of color were not allowed in the USTA
"What's My Line" was the best!!!
Ms.Gibson was such a modern,up to date,person at a time in the USA!! I think she could,fairly well,playing against a male player.I admire her tenacity of spirit,her guts,courage,CHUTSPAH!!
Especially in the days of wooden tennis rackets, a decent male high school tennis player would beat top females. Even today a good college player would prevail. You may not be aware that in tournaments the sexes use differently constructed (tennis) balls and play fewer sets.
The very pinnacle of female athletes cannot compete evenly with a male amateur ranked in the the 400’s
Sorry if reality angers you.
The WML panel always extended complete courtesy to various black celebrities that appeared on the show. This was during a time when black people (or the then term "colored") were relegated to either servant or comic/buffoon roles on TV. They were way ahead of their time.
I loved this aspect of this "episode." It literally brought tears.
I am sure WML received threats and hate mail over the years, but that never did stop them from inviting whomever they wanted as "mystery guests" or contestants.
Even back then, it was long over due. We still have a long way to go in recognizing there brilliance to society.
Thanks liberals for the racist comments.
The norms for ‘cultured’ people of the day, was to show common respect in a highly public setting, like WML. It would be difficult to know the actual attitudes of the participants, in this setting. Times being what they were, happy to see the coverage given to Black people with celebrity status, in the show.
Wow! An episode with a prolific architect and an incomparable athlete, really enjoyed seeing Ms. Gibson whom I admire and Mr. Stone. Wish some of his buildings hadn't been razed for newer, less interesting designs.
John Daley the younger harness racer, was so handsome! His speech certainly showed his capability to perform as a lawyer! 👏👏👏
The pajama model is just ADORABLE!
Agreed!
I think the pajama model was fangirling when George Sanders was asking questions, she got a little excited.
great lady althea gibson,,,,,!!
I'm taking a Sociology of Sport class at my college, and we watched a documentary called "Althea." Part of her mystery guest appearance was included in the documentary!
One of the very best episodes I’ve seen.
Here's an example - 13:41
Wow, for once I would have had to disqualify myself from a round! As soon as John identified E.D.L. as someone whose full name might give him away, his distinct first, middle, and last name just auto-filled into my head! In fact, I thought Bennett had it too and was just pacing his questions for time. Of course I had the benefit of history. I wish history had been kinder to Stone's buildings. His pavilion mentioned here was stunning for 1958!
+Jolar70 I also knew right away that he was architect Edward Durrell Stone, but for a completely different reason: Nora Ephron wrote a column for Esquire Magazine back in the mid-1970's. She talked about other columns in other publications that she enjoyed reading. One of these was written by an ex-wife of EDS who had kept her ex-husband's middle and last names; Lydia Durrell Stone, let's say. I no longer remember her exact first name. "Lydia" wrote a column in the Palm Beach Social Pictorial (I have no idea if it still exists) and Nora E. loved an item by-lined "Dress Up Your Diamond Bracelet." I thought this was hilarious and have never forgotten it. I can't find this anywhere on the internet and I wish I had saved the issue of the magazine.
+Jolar70 just curious, e.d.s. @ 3:45 seems to be flipping someone off, after replaying it i noticed he looked hard at the camera's before he did it, then was fixed on something to his right before and after making this gesture. maybe it was inadvertent.
Me too, because of crossword puzzles.
Having looked at pics of this pavilion, I certainly understand why it was controversial and many people considered it ugly. So many of Stone's buildings have pillars out front -- like the Kennedy Center. Many of his buildings are really 1960s dated . He was no IM Pei.
@@tomitstube He was using his middle finger to rub just underneath his eye.
George Sanders stole the show in "All About Eve".
I agree.
Aided and abetted by Thelma Ritter!
@@qkhost Fully agree; I wish they'd kept her for the whole movie. Imagine Thelma & George squaring off.
How fun to see the assortment of Kellogg's cereal in their little boxes - we kids would always pick Frosted Flakes or other sugary stuff and then raisin bran was last to be chosen.
I did too. But i liked Raisin bran too just had a bowl of it this morning.
I love raisin brand it is one of my favorites but I also love frosted flakes.
I loved Raisin Bran and still do! ❤️
That John Dailey was a handsome young man.
Trivia: This show of 8/10/58, last contestant is John Dailey, harness race horse driver. The WML show of 4/11/65, first contestant is John Daly, a circus clown.
+49yt freaky synchronicity
Bennett's question to Althea Gibson presaged the Billie Jean King/Bobby Riggs matchup by about 15 years! Ms. King, memorably, won.
Of course Bobby Riggs wasn't one of the ranked Australians that Bennett asked about, but the idea of a men's/ladies' match was already brewing in '58!
11:30 - John looks so proud of himself for that pun! That guy is adorable.
Aaron Sakulich
My first thought was that he looked rather sheepish about it, but upon a second look (after reading your comment), although he does scrunch up his face as if groaning at his own joke at first, the later look you pointed out sort of starts out sheepish, but then he looks up at the panel (perhaps particularly at King Punster Bennett Cerf?) as if seeking and hoping for their approval! (And I think he expected to get it from Bennett, at least, which would confirm your pride theory.)
SaveThe TPC Looks like a Ray Bolgers' Scarecrow expression to me!
Aaron, explain your pun please.
@@johanbrand8601 "At sea" means confused. John said the contestant may be "at sea" when working, although on the ground. It's the kind of corny dad play on words that Bennett was more known for than John.
althea gibson won the u.s open 2 days prior, she won in 1957 too. it was an amateur sport then so there was no money in it, that's why she should would retire from tennis right after this show and pursue other venues to make a living. in 1959 she got a part in a john ford movie as a "slave maid". she would take up professional golf at the age of 37 (1964) and face even more discrimination. if althea had been born today she would have been rich, but as it was during her prime she had to rely on benefactors to compete and live.
To add to what you wrote, she refused to use the stereotypic negro vocabulary that was in the script!
Your grammar is horrific.
@@jeffwads Your comment is stupid and wrong. Do you even know what grammar is?
Acknowledging this is swimming against the tide, and intending no disparagement of Althea or any other athlete, might it be that now there is too much money in sports, such that other very helpful careers - physician, researcher, nurse - are abandoned by talented people pursuing outsized fame and fortune of successful athletes and entertainers. Conversely, wouldn’t it be great if an amateur had a chance to win in tennis, golf, etc.
@@igkoigko9950 i don't think there are a lot of people who "abandon" being a doctor, teacher, or researcher for professional athlete, you can add acting and music to that, what we really need is an end to "for profit" universities, opening university access to many more people. millions are being left out because they simply can't afford to get a professional career. and our tax laws are discriminatory, low income neighborhoods are starved of resources, millions are being left behind due to racism, classism, or both.
i also realize why they got the mystery guest so quickly. Once they realize it was a woman in the sports area. It had to be tennis because it was time of the U.S. Tennis Open
George Sanders is one of the sexiest men ever in movies. So classy!
"If they covered him in garbage, George Sanders would still have style" - -referring to his star on Hollywood Blvd - -one if my fave lines from a Kinks song Celluloid Heroes.
@@1jamyc Thanks , i _knew_ i heard that name somewhere before - beautiful Song , sweet memries , and yes : very to the point
Correction: I meant,Ms.Gibson,could have competed well against a male player,as her athletic prowess was quite evident.I read about her,that she " always" thought she would be" famous." She was,apparently," prophetic" as well!!
People unfamiliar with tennis will protest, but at no point could top women compete against top men. OTOH, today’s top women with today’s rackets could compete against top males of the late 50s. W hen Billie Jean King played Riggs, Riggs was an out of shape has-been who would have quickly lost to an average college player.
The very pinnacle of professional female tennis players could not beat a male college player ranked in the 400’s.
Sorry if reality angers you.
@@thesweeples3266 - nonsense. The pinnacle could indeed beat a male college player ranked in the 400. Wish we could put money on this one because you've gone a bit too far with a basic truism. Unfortunately we will never see it happen, so I won't be able to take your money. Sad.
FWIW, Gibson did appear in one movie the year after this episode: "The Horse Soldiers."
It seems quite odd that Dorothy asks Mr. Stone if he considers Alaska to be part of the continental US. Alaska did not become a state until January of 1959. A bizarre requirement of their becoming a state was that they not represent Alaska as part of the Continental US. Years later the phrasing "contiguous US" came into use for the original 48 states.
If you find a thin volume labeled as an abridged version of Althea Gibson's biography, be aware that it's bowdlerized. Deleted is her explanation of how she dealt with bullies in Harlem.
Her dad had spent a lot of time teaching her boxing. Typically, on the way home, a bully would call her over to "talk" with her. She found she could not outrun them. So she would go over & they would start their usual BS before hitting her.
She would then sucker punch them with everything she had! She said she immediately followed up, making every punch count to the max, & not stopping for anything. She related that she won a lot of fights that way!
😎 Way to go , PowerGirl 👊
Ms.Martin,appeared,quite proper,respectful in her demeanor,and a real pleasure,to see someone so courteous in that public setting.It was toward the end of the fifties,were women were" expected,trained" to be of that mindset.Personally,I do Not think this demeanor is exclusively for women,that men would benefit from this mindset of manners,also.MERRY CHRISTMAS,EVERY ONE!!
*"Miss Darn It" sure was cute!*
Yes!
I googled - that 1958 US pavilion really was a gorgeous building
They all were
Very very very clever quip by Cerf: as the pajama girl would say nighty night.
Bennett seems to give a premonition for the "Battle of the Sexes" years later between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs by his question at 19:33
Althea's begins at 17:09
I think this the prettiest Dorothy I've ever seen. I don't know if it's the hoop earrings or what, but she's got it here.
Dorothy is about as pretty as Althea is fat and clumsy. Dorothy has many good qualities but looks is not one of them. By contrast Arlene and Althea have many good qualities including, but not at all limited, to looks.
Thank you, Anointed One, for deigning to explicate the laws of beauty and "good qualities." Clearly they are universal laws, divine in origin, but perhaps you have established their infallibility in laboratory settings, by measuring skulls, for instance, and administering Szondi tests. No matter; the last -- indeed, only -- word is yours, and here's hoping you stop strangers on sidewalks to apprise them of the homeliness of their children and the high or low character of their spouses. Such sanctity is not be wasted, you know. Of course you know; how plebian of me!
She was pretty
Patrician mid-Atlantic accents.....gone forever...
One of my favourite things about this programme!
Yes, I agree. Sad.
Thank you for posting. She was something else and overcame prejudice. The Americans should be ashamed of themselves.
Ya, we were the only ones.
… and btw…. There are a lot of charlatans getting rich from telling people they should be ashamed.
… but continue to virtue signal if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Does that include the hundreds of thousands of Americans that fought and died in the Civil War to help abolish slavery?
Love the highly intelligent George Sanders.
Dorothy asked if it was UNLIKELY the garnent would be seen with the naked eye if she were wearing 'it' but then was gently protesting that Daly should've given her a yes when he said it wasn't. H'mmmmm she is starting to show signs of not being quite 'on the ball' as previous years.
Bless her. I've heard people suggest that she starting having a few tipples in later years before a show. I find that intriguing given how sober and well-behaved she's been so far. I'll soon see....working through these chronologically, like you do,
I think, despite rumors to the contrary, Dorothy did not drink nor take drugs. Her wit and skills in solving identities would have been seriously affected had she drùnk or taken susubstances. Remember, she was in dogged pursuit of the identity of Kennedy's killer. She had gotten hold of some damning information. She received threats, but didn't back down. She paid with her life. There are a number of books written about the topic. Her alleged substance abuse rumors were begun to obfuscate the identities of her killers.
@Klyber, I came on to read the comments to see if she ever married. I’m so happy that she did! She was so charming and adorable, just really adorable. Did she ever get to know that these episodes were online or did she pass too soon?
It would be easier to call every woman "miss." It would eliminate the seemed intrusion into one's privacy. The female panelists on this program are mostly addressed as "miss" regardless of marital status. As were the female mystery guests. I abhor being addressed by my first name by tradespeople, in medical or dental offices or other business circumstances. My sister doesn't mind being addressed by her first name in medical offices but when my first name is called to let me know it is my turn, I'll bloody wait until they use my last name. When I did that recently, the nurse asked, "well, isn't your name 'Shirley?'". "Yes," I replied, "among my family and friends. It's my first name." Everyone deserves to be addressed by the honorific.
Dorothy insists on a "yes" [pajama woman] but she's wrong. Dorothy asked: "If worn, is it unlikely that it would be seen with a naked eye?" The answer is "No." It's quite likely (the opposite of "unlikely") that it would be seen with a naked eye if worn.
Puerto Rico is not a country (see 5:13). Since 1898, it has been part of the United States. Since 1917, Puerto Ricans have been U.S. citizens.
I alway's like the Jazz intro theme. I wonder if anyone played it on a record?
Mr. Sanders looked as if he'd much rather be standing out at the street corner waiting for a bus...
He really looks miserable. I wonder - was he invited back after this?
Sanders was miserable. Google him on Wikipedia. Sad ending.
He looked depressed, never cracked a smile the entire time.
George Sanders wasn't formally greeted at the beginning of this show.
So, if he appeared upset, it
Could stem from that point
On.
Althea's dress is gorgeous!
I didn't know there was a pajama model in stores.
Modeling of clothing used to be a common service provided in department stores. My mother worked as a dress model when she was a newlywed. She had movie star good looks, and my father was a handsome Army officer recently returned from service in WWII.
Regarding the Pajama Model's Line, Arlene's and George's questioning got a little risque, but still funny and clean for 1958 television.
Whups, Dorothy's asking about folding or bending again. (I had it stuck in my head Miss Martin was a mattress demonstrator, so I was protesting in my head, but, clearly, I was Wrong.)
Really, I like her telephone booth question better.
juliansinger Dorothy was a really good player but sometimes her questions were just plain showing off. “Did I meet you at Lucille Ball’s house while Frank Sinatra was singing to Greta Garbo and Jane Wyman and Ronald Reagan were in the swimming pool with Bette Davis?”
@@ericmaine Bennett does it too he asks if they had lunch the previous day or if their kids went or go to the same school.
I'm so glad John didn't give in to Dorothy's attempt to gaslight him! Her question was, "If I wore this, would it be *unlikely* that you could see it with the naked eye?" To which the answer was definjtely NO. She repeatedly asserted that because you COULD see it, the answer would be "Yes", which was definitely incorrect!
It was very proper of Daly to not argue about it and just jovially flip the card. Still, you could tell she was angry afterward!
How is a Brussels pavilion in Asia?
Markxxx This baffled me as well.
Stone was also the designer of the U.S. embassy in New Delhi, India, so his work on behalf of the government involving American property in a foreign country was both in Europe and Asia. The order in which the questions were asked and answered did lead to some confusion, but I think this must have been the explanation.
Who said there was one?
Perhaps, just perhaps, he had designed more than one building. Hmmmm?
Penmanship was a subject that was taught in schools back then and one can see that as people sign in. Over the years, even before computers were heavily used, it was a subject that was considered less important.
You saw how Althea Gibson made her capital cursive G. I used to tell people, even older folks they were spelling things wrong cause they used a cursive J.
Penmanship was indeed taught in schools back then. Report cards even included a grade in it. In my case, unfortunately, the grade was always low. Maybe it's because I'm a lefty and cursive is designed to be written with the right hand, or maybe I just didn't try hard enough, but I have never been able to produce clear handwriting.
I've never understood why guest contestants weren't told how the game works back stage before they come on the air. That way it would have saved a lot of time and John wouldn't have had to always ask the same question.
Probably just a part of the show
Restating the rules was probably never for the benefit of the contestant. The question was part of the formulaic show and the occasional restatement was for the audience.
Althea Gibson was so beautiful. I'm so sad that people of color were shut out of so many opportunities. They still are, although we as a nation still haven't figured out how to be color blind. Breaks my heart.
What are they shut out of today? Please let us all know so that it can be addressed. We await your informed reply.
jeffwads . Try being a person of color when trying to rent an apartment in wealthy neighborhoods, or when driving through a city, or when applying for certain jobs. Prejudice is unfortunately color blind, but in this country we need to work harder to overcome our history and love our neighbor as ourselves.
@@gaidurakismate Try not being a person of color (except Asian) when applying for a government job, admission to an Ivy League school, or being at risk of being laid off from a job
My favorite panel is Dorothy, Steven Arlene and Bennett. I just think they’re the best together. They were good with one other guy too, but I’ll be danged if I can remember his name - Robert Something 🤔.
Q. LEWIS?
Thanks Gary 👍🏻🥰‼️
The Daly/Daily pun reminds me of an episode of Quick Draw McGraw where the local newspaper keeps getting misspelt variously throughout the episode. It would have come out round about this time too.
25:27 Cerf:"As the pajama girl would say nightie-nightie John!"
LMAO!! OH I LOVE this man's corny jokes!!
Me too 👍🏻😂🤣🥰‼️
i think he's way creepier that Hal ever was
Bennett gets more and more annoying - first, telling a guest in a previous show that her beauty was wasted by being a lawyer I believe, and then by trying to say that Althea Gibson isn't as good as a man (trying to diminish her accomplishments - an extra insult as she wasn't paid enough for playing tennis to really cover the cost of living) - what a stuffy, pompous old dinosaur, with that patronising smile, jokes that were rarely funny and an obsessive hatred for rock & roll. There have been many instances where he showed he just didn't respect women very much, including his treatment of Dorothy (not that she wasn't annoying in her own way). Kudos to Ms. Gibson for handling the question with class and to John for the respect he showed in saying she could have a 3rd career as a diplomat. My fave panelist was Steve Allen - truly witty, funny and kind - a class act.
Please stop being so silly.
When one crossbreeds a weasel and a snake , the result is very likely a cerf
the horse racer is most attractive, indeed.
The Pajama lady had an amazing delightful charming and engaging personality!
I would add to Bennett Cerf's intro and sentences with at least 8 words. 😄
Edward stone designed the Brussels US pavilion, but has a comb over out of this world!
My first question for Mr, S would be 'are you an owner or co-owner of a supermarket?'
Miss Martin ! Nice Lady
About Althea Gibson:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Althea_Gibson
Dorothy looked very good here, those dangly hoop earrings suited her.
Also liked Althea's dress but it would look better with the scarf tied loosely going down her back instead of sewn into the back. Or not on it at all. She looked very pretty in it, still, nice shoulders.
Beautiful African American Queen Althea Gibson.. Didn't know about her. They keep things quiet. She was awesome.
Why did Bennet immediately start with that question?
how is Brussels in Europe and Asia?
isn't Germany and Russia in the way of Asia?
I know many people argue over Russa being in Europe or Asia, but even if you put all of Russia in Asia, Germany is still in the way.
It was explained in another comment that he also designed the American embassy in New Delhi. I suppose the answer encompassed all of his work representing the U.S.A., not just the pavilion in Brussels.
Althea Gibson looked pretty
I wonder if “Miss Darn It” became Mrs. So and So after this appearance on television?
Yes. See her daughter Penny Klyber’s comment above.
Lucky guy that got her.
Well Florence was very very charming.
p.s. - George Sanders: what is going ON with him? Did he actually think he was in a movie while he was filming this?! I'm now a few months on from this episode, and just watched two lovely episodes with David Niven, who was no less stereotypically British but so warm, witty, and charming. Among this unique group of bright talents, Sanders' stiffness and discomfort with the form was distracting.
Jolar70 Fates in his book talks about guest panelists who refused the offer of a practice session. They were given lists of typical questions. Sanders looks like he is reading something, and most of his questions are from that list.
I don't think it has anything to do with being British. Each man has his own personality.
@@accomplice55 Of course you're right. I only make fun because my mum is British, and I'm a duel citizen, but I primarily grew up in the US.
One of the most charming aspects of the show, seen from today, is its completely dated, yet lovely and literate, formalities. Actual post-war civility! We don't have it today.
Tony Randall was SO stiff and erudite in his early appearances and yet, over time, he became one of the show's most lovable and spontaneous guests (I can hear his laughter now!). Perhaps, had Sanders done a few more, he would have had more loose fun with it. He was also way older than Tony Randall, and TV was maybe too much of a generation gap.
Bennett Cerf is dubious, not clairvoyant
I have a real soft spot for architects because my late husband was an architect. I really wish they would stop using the term architect when describing a politician. They are not architects.
20:41 "Will the real John Da(i)l(e)y please stand up?" haha
*_Architect (Designed U.S. Pavilion Brussel's World's Fair_*
*_Pajama Model_*
*_Harness Race Horse Driver_*
I guess Arlene didn't have time to do her usual flirting with the handsome young man at the end.
The sexual innuendo was thick in the questions to the pajama model from the male panelist (not cerf).
Also Dorothy seemed pissed when John Daly cut her off from her questions of the model.
Dorothy K. Can be a pain sometimes.
Oh Dorothy was mad.... 15:41
@Markxxx
Based on how she asked the question "if I were wearing this, would it be 'unlikely' you could see it with the naked eye"
So John's response was completely correct "if you were to wear this it would be 'likely' we could see it with naked eye"
Justified no. She has been getting feisty last few episodes.
2:05 "Panel mawdahwaydah." John Daly gets the award for *_Television's Biggest Forehead_* .
18:15 Arlene had her head turned that way to peek through the space between her nose and her mask. She admitted in an interview on Canadian television that she peeked in that manner.
15:35 Dorothy Kilgallen took this game so seriously that it became downright irritating.
Zac M. I agree with you. In this case, she was wrong anyway! Her question was “unlikely seen”, but the answer from John was “likely seen”!
How interesting that Bennett asked this women’s champion about how she would fare against a male competitor. And she replied that “wouldn’t be fair”, then that she “might be able to get a few licks in.” Rather prophetic when you consider the nonsensical denial of reality that’s going on with biological men competing in women’s sports today.
The panel HAD to have been given the heads-up about the mystery celebrity guests--clues that is. How else would they have been able to guess the identity of Althea Gibson so quickly?
Umm… awareness of local current events.
How come Mr. DALEY never asked if the men were married?
Because in those days, ladies were addressed as MISS or MRS. But, a man's title would not change upon marriage. It is always MISTER.
4-syllable or bombasticated vocabulary!!!
Finally a POC
Thanks for the virtue signal.
3:45- how rude.
How ridiculous a pajama model!!
You’ve never seen an advertisement for pajamas?
Now how in the word did Arlene guess THAT?!
how the fuck did she guess that ?
Even if Miss Martin WAS a Mrs the panel would still call her Miss Martin anyway! It irritates me every time, that pointless opening question but hey I know, it's 1958.
I hope you are able to get over it.
No female in any sport can contend with the top males.