Genshin players: Support WuWa so Hoyoverse will give us free 5 stars!!! Wuwa: giving free 5 stars to prevent die in one month Genshin Players: .........
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp It's suffering from optimization issues rn but we gotta give it time. Wuwa is a really good game in itself. All they gotta do is improve the optimization
@@AngryLad_80 character design, character writing, world design. Movements animations feel awful rn. Voice acting is horrible, at least the english one. Story is really bad. Also if WW wants to live longer than tof did, it needs to find its own identity because right now it's a weird amalgamation of unrelated pieces taken from other games. Less bugs, lags and crashes would be cool too
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE FANBASE! I said I didn't like the bugs and my friend got really motion sick playing and I got fucking dogpiled. It's almost impossible to find anyone critiquing WuWa because the fanbase is full of assholes who think you're a genshin fanboy even if all you say is "i think this game could use more polish" I didn't even bring genshin up and people were insulting the shit out of me. At least with genshin the toxicity is usually only around twitter and tectone holy shit. I WAS going to stick around and see if the game improved, but after that? Hell no, i'm not having it take up my storage space if i have to deal with a community like that.
Honestly, I think the game is fun, but man, seeing this how game talked about is exhausting. It's always about how it's related to genshin that I honestly didn't even know how the game played or about the story. The only thing i heard was how" genshin could never" apparently.
It's basically a fandom war, it's honestly more productive to play the game that you like than discuss, debate or fight over which one is better on social media 😂
Oh pls play the game and see how its so similar to genshin in many aspects: you start of seeing some divine goddess like being whose symbol on is that of a elongated star similar to certain someone and you are whisked into a unfamiliar world where u dont remember anything and u meet the mascot of the game and she introduces u to the world, sound familiar ? mhmm i thought so. The game also has five echo slots just like 5 artifcact slots, a dialogue system that is exactly the same and exploration progressing that is exactly the same, So if genshin was a BoTW copy then Wuwa is a Genshin copy cased close.
To be fair, almost every single system in the game is an exact Genshin copy, except for the combat. To the smallest details, all I see while playing is ‘ah, yeah, like in Genshin’, ‘ah cool, that’s Genshin’. It’s kind of shameless and unnecessary. Like, you couldn’t have changed the BP design even a bit?
@@minthantmaung8643 Traveler doesn't have amnesia though, and in WuWa the goddes like person is pretty clearly a positive character at least for first glance and in Genshin she look and act antagonistic. Yeah they are familiar, but not the same. + They allowed to use aspect from other mediums, bruh. It is how art work.
I don't care if WuWa surpasses, people will come back still stick around and seeing the devs actually listening and acting on what the community says I think it won't fail or fall off it will just have smaller community than genshin
I’m happy for both Coexisting becuz I like genshin characters and I wanna see another successful game like genshin exist and genshin having competition would be great I hope wuwa STRIVES
You have it backwards. Gacha games 'listen' to feedback is because the game is trying to make money. The more these games are failing the more they need to give free stuff to entice people to spend. Genshin is less generous and less responsive because it doesn't have to be.
Some people in the west keeps on saying oh genshin is dying or oh genshin killer but how i see it is a good competition like a rivalry maybe in the west wuwa will be more popular then genshin idk idc because they dont realise that genshin is so HUGE in the east that's it's unkillable espically in CHINA rn i'm studying in china rn in 广州 and i can SAFELY say that it is everywhere highschool,adults,uni students a lot of them have genshin merch even during at the weekends they cosplay as genshin characters for fun TLDR: I hate those western people or content creators that saying genshin is dying or dead because of wuwa what a ignorance take why not just call it a competitor💀
I think the problem WuWa has, apart from being unpolished xd, is that it needs much more to set up its own identity, having a different gameplay ain't enough if you're gonna copy the presentation I hope they solve those issues and it becomes at least a game with a decent amount of consistent player numbers, it'd be a waste to see a game launch and die in a relatively short period
I need to pick 1 game on my phone, I choose wuwa because their 3D are more good and their characters are to notch especially yinlin and changli Edit: I quit genshin, I already sold my account 😂
@@FliponYT you straight up said Genshin added a lot of content at first. It really didn’t lol. 1.3’s first lantern rite was barren remember? We talked to npcs the whole time.
@@wilburforce8046yeah the genshin glazing is crazy. People just forget how bad it was during launch and how much rage there was about it trying to copy breath of the wild lol.
You are so right about game's community. tbh I'd be willing to give WW more of a chance, but I just know it's going to have an annoying and toxic fanbase which, coupled with all the other issues, makes me not want to bother with this game at all, and with ZZZ coming out soon, I'd rather just wait and get invested in that when it comes out.
Well, for what it's worth, genshin's community is way worse, especially the twitter part of the community, the stuff they say sometimes genuinely makes me puke.
@nebulamask81 I'd rather see some dumbass shit like that then see "guys WW better than genshin!!!! XD ". I don't want to go to a community of a game just to see them shitting on another game I like, it's annoying af, and I know it's gonna stay like that. Besides WW is mid af IMO, why would I play a game I don't like? ZZZ looks a lot more exciting to me.
@@fioragap Nice cope. Ah yes, the healthy community you're looking forward to that complains about anime tatas lmao. Be real. Genshin players are also saying Genshin is better than WW and Star Rail players are saying it's better than Genshin and blah blah blah every game has these people especially in gatcha games. Just be honest and admit you're a mhy fanboy, it's not that hard.
I´ve seen way more Genshin players attacking WW than the other way around. And the "Genshin killer" related memes come from Burnt out Genshin players... not toxic WW players.
Great video as always. You basically summed up the feelings I had when playing Wuwa, "It would've been great.. if Genshin didn't exist". The first few months of any game tends to be polarizing, so I get the hate for the toxicity and all. Once the Wuwa hype dies down, we'll really see it for what it really was in retrospect.
I don't think people really want WuWa to surpass Genshin, except a select few. IMO, I quit Genshin a long time ago because I didn't want to keep an endless grind for no reward (being that I can already dominate everything). WuWa fits that niche perfectly and honestly, that's enough. It will retain a sizeable playerbase with what I've seen so far and I don't think it's going anywhere, it won't die, it'll just not be as popular.
And it doesn't need to be, to be a sucessful game. I hope it surpass Genshin though, because that should (at least I hope) force Genshin to then want to surpass it back. The dynamics of competition, both improving, gamers with more and better options. I don't get why people stay on stupid fanboyism rooting for one or the other to fail. It's dumb.
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 if you NEED to give out free 5* which has no value outside of the game to elevate your game, then your base game is not appealing enough. let me remind you that these so called 5* are something that they make themselves, it doesnt make them lose to hand them out for free cuz as a gacha game they're pretty much obliged to make characters anyways. dont let these devs sway you so easily for something that you never really needed in the first place just so you can play their unpolished game. genshin doesnt need to give out free 5* because hoyo knows youll play the goddamn game anyway because its good, the game isnt tied to only the 5*. know the difference
@@dezcrux so are you saying actively listening and rewarding it’s fanbase isn’t elevating the game cause isn’t that entirely the point and a good thing..? Genshin had problems at release as well and gave you less idk y you Genshin fans are oblivious to this there’s in a ongoing meme in your community about the toxicity of attacking VA or even the bad Rewards if anything I’d say Hoyo has gotten so big and they can’t even properly give you a measly decent reward. I come from PGR & Arknights and honestly Kuro will get there act together just knowing the quality they put out on boss fights and the characters/ Combat from the previous Ip I don’t see why they wouldn’t.
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 you could say that but genshin was the first open world mobile gacha game, if it weren't for genshin success kuro wouldn't even bother to try and develop wuwa xd (they even double down on making the game as similar as hoyo games, is originality really that hard to come by that even most of the UI and fundamental is the exact same?) Also i dont label myself as someone from this community, i just play the game, couldn't care less about people on Twitter ever, never even used that platform other than for looking at arts
@@Ocacadordecasadas can be a meme, and an outlet for anger at the same time. I'm not going to trust comments coming from people who just have a bone to pick with a a game i actually like. Cause it's very obvious a lot of vocal WuWA fangirls are butthurt genshin fans. I almost hope genshin doesn't give away a free 5 star ever just out of spite. I'm all for some legitimate criticism. But you guys are just straight up annoying.
@@Dhalinar Why? Yeah we may be memeing genshin,but at the end of the day most of It is actually true,you cant argue about It when WW literally responded to a problem fast as fuck and gave a good compensation for It,at the end of the day,It is not our fault when genshin players have been trashing this game since It was revealed Just bacause yes,now that we are giving payback we are the anoying ones? Like common
I think you might be viewing past genshin through rose tinted glasses. After launch the game essentially felt barren until 2.0. Im very sure wuthering waves will feel dry too for a while and fall off a little but not die. The devs already have an incredibly strong grip on community support because they listen and reward. It wont take years for them to optimize unlike genshin. Im certain ww will be a viable competitor for the crown in less than a year. Edit: To everyone saying this game is trash and it's going to die, I think you're letting you're emotions get in the way. This game just needs to solve some phone optimization problems and it'll be at a good starting point. Since the start I've seen something like 4 hot fixes in 3 days. They are diligent. And while my computer only crashed once with genshin launch it was still buggy. Falling/spawning bellow the map, being killed in cut scenes, unintentional camera angles that didn't let you see anything during cutscenes, getting you're character stuck in the falling animation in the open world, weapons and artifacts not doing what they said they did, terrible English (in my opinion was never really fixed). Something about stones in a glass house.
I pray for this to be the case. I'm trying the game myself, and so far it hasn't pulled me in like Genshin did. (In part, probably because I've played Genshin already.) I love Genshin, but it definitely needs a true competitor. And besides, *hoping* for something to fail is just mean.
‘They listen and reward’. They are in full on panic mode, throwing pulls and standard 5 stars around, hoping it will convince people to give the game a 2nd try, after the disaster that was launch day. That’s not listening, that crisis management. We have no way of telling whether they will actually listen to more structural feedback, long-term. Hoyo listened when the Chinese community almost burned down HQ when dragon daddy ZL launched in a bad state. They’re not listening anymore though.
Ever since star rails release I have felt so bad about how i used to think about honkai impact players 😂 They aint got nothing on what i see nowadays. Their comparisons were the training wheels for what would come later. Take me back to when people constantly repeatedly pointing out that Ei is based on Mei was the most annoying thing i had to deal with
i don’t plan on playing WuWa but regardless i hope it does well so genshin has some actual competition in its niche, which is obviously beneficial for all players as hyv will hopefully be less complacent in order to stay ahead of their competitors
It's just like WoW back in the day with all the "WoW killers" . There were better MMO's that came out but they never eclipsed WoW's numbers because of the first mover advantage it had. GI is similar in this respect. For a game to kill GI it would have to be as good against Genshin ans Genshin was when compared to the standard of what other Gachas were when GI debuted.
The problem is, people are Coming into this game after being burnt out of Genshin, I’ve given weathering waves a fair shake , about 10 hours. And the first thing I will say is it deserves it Genshin impact comparison ( and not in a good way ) They stole literally every design choice Genshin impact made, I’m generally shocked , Like I mean everything. weathering waves is Genshin impact for an older audience. It’s more like a more polished version of tower of fantasy . But has nowhere near the quality that Genshin has achieved. Combat a little overrated because yes, you can do more. But it doesn’t flow as well 8/10. This will mainly be a taste thing Character design Better than tower fantasy But not Genshin. 7 out 10. Not bad, but not great Open world , Feels uninspired and copy and paste , Doesn’t have that handcrafted feel that Genshin has. Voice acting. Straight up bad , With a bad translation added Story also boring with a poor intro, Again, again, I’ll say this for people who are burnt out on Genshin and enjoy this game. That’s great. But I believe the positivity towards the game ( over hyping ) has more to do with negativity towards Genshin. X GI Content creators looking to cover something else. Hoping is will be big, I’ll give it about two months before the I quit video’s start Coming out from the content creators. I generally was hyped for this game, but ultimately it’s disappointing. It’s a 6 out of 10.
@@LauraJinkins-pi8sv I don't, i just know how tectone is lol. He scans the internet for anything negative about wuwa or himself, gets triggered easily and reacts to it
@@ssarellas bringing him up isn’t helping. Not to mention no? Most of the time it’s his chat trying to enable and illicit an reaction from him, it’s just rage bait
@@LauraJinkins-pi8sv No it's not? He doesn't have to do what his chat tells him to do, his whole content revolves around him causing drama and being the genshin hater. He built his community around that, so don't blame his chat for it. He obviously likes doing that Also you will see that I am right, he will react to this video at some point because he can't stand criticism of wuwa, especially when it's related with genshin
This is from a HSR and Genshin Player, Im gonna yap a bit sry It might be because WuWa only just release but i was playing on my phone but the camera when moving/gliding was wonky and was giving me motion sickness (or probably just my phone) and all of the cutscenes sound are not aligned properly and that really threw me off when there was an epic cutscenes it really turn me off bcuz of it. Another thing is the VA idk if its just me i feel like the character voices were emotionless like with the lion boy story quest ( forgot his name sry), the only emotion that i felt was when he was angry in the end of the quest. ik this might be in the endgame but i feel like the tuning system is really Dogsh*t why do you have to level and tune it before seeing the substat (This may get better but still). another problem is the yapping in the quest there was so much info dump on us on the first chapter ik some ppl are ok with this but i only enjoyed the last act where there was action and little yapping but they still explain whats going on on those little yap session. But i will probably stick around since I like the combat of this game and like the story currently but i hope kuro games will fix some its problems in the upcoming patches. also plz Come home Encore :]
Yeah I've actually listen story and yang yang feel dead chixia seem not pepy enough baizhi not worst scar not bad overall va not fun to listen to maybe that just en version
That's what I'm struggling with. I play games for the music, story, and character stories. WuWa has unfotunaly failed to hit me with any of those three. Someone made a really good point of how Genshin and Star Rail both throw you into the action then do info dumps. I really haven't gotten any connection to characters yet to ground me in the world. Storyline with Scar seem jarring going into from the 4 items puzzle. I liked the last part of the puzzle quest where you were in the library but everything seem pretty rush and jarring at times. Not enough time for build up for proper story. Def think the endgame echo grind is gonna be really cursed. I also feel like the character and world design is very muted in colour. I don't know if thats just a artitistic taste diffrence but there are times everything just seems like shades of grey hard to distinguies between places.
Wuwa fans when Genshin does something nice: Yeah yew know this is cuz of us right 🤓 Wuwa fans when Wuwa does something nice: It is absolutely perplexing how those peasants think our marvelous game has anything to do with them 🧐
I'm just glad I finally got what I wanted from for Genshin Impact, which It never delivered and never will. Wuthering Waves is for not just ex-Genshin fans, but unlike Genshin, WuWa feels like a game that's made for Action RPG fans.
I’m a console player… WW isn’t even out for me, yet all these creators are pumping out content for it. Which, more power to them, but to me who can’t even play the game, it’s simply clogging up my feed 😅.
It's not even that easy to make a console port. Hoyo wanted to make a NIntendo Switch port for Genshin but ended up discarding it for Playstation instead
honestly its funny seeing the chronically online fans of both games fight while one of my friends who isn’t chronically online and is usually busy, the first things he said within the first few minutes of playing WuWa was that it was a Genshin clone & he was trying to find something unique about the game that makes it different.
"...trying to find something unique about the game that makes it different..." I don't know. Maybe the more mature narrative taking place in a post apocalyptic world? Not having a cute mascot repeat dialog as if you're a child? More mature enemy designs? Different combat system? Male characters that actually look like MEN? That's what I noticed within the first few minutes of playing.
srry i ended up yapping too (genshin/hi3/hsr player) genshin also has like. very well thought out interconnected lore with an "end" that has been teased since release. even through "dead patches" it gives the community time to take in, talk about, and create works based on the updates and new lore. it takes up a slice of my life which i knew and was willing to give that time to it going into it... but im fatigued at this point! adding ANOTHER gacha to my roster of time sinking games just feels very unappealing. hsr is an easy game to play alongside genshin as well because of the interconnected lore + less daily game time, and while the same could be said with hi3, ive found its more draining on me daily. the new ui every chapter is also a little overwhelming, so i end up taking long breaks sometimes Also, WuWa has high graphics ig, but i feel like that's just alienating a large number of people who don't have newer or higher end devices. idk. i could still play genshin for a long time on my fuckass ipad even when it was crashing every 5-10 minutes, but i can't even load WuWa's starting page after updating it.
The best thing to come out of this is that all the ppl that base their entire personality off of hating Genshin have all moved from hsr to wuwa so now the hsr community is like, chill.
gonna yap real hard here but honestly i'm such an outlier in this convo bc i've never really experienced genshin burnout like at all since i started in late 1.5 like i genuinely love most everything about the game. sure i've got my complaints, but i actively play on two accounts and, on my main, i am one of those players who basically does everything there is to do and pulls for almost every character. that being said, i'm really not looking for a cheap genshin knockoff in like any sense so i won't be playing wuwa, but my god. the community is such ass. genshin community isn't much better bc i don't really agree with a lot of opinions and people who don't play genshin anymore treat the game like it's their toxic ex so the reputation we have for being annoying weirdos is just sad to me. i also think that it's stupid to go into wuwa and only talk about genshin like wuwa really does have no identity of its own since it can only ever be tied to genshin. it's almost like we've been here before lol. not to even mention how buggy wuwa is. truly pathetic stuff. but yeah we'd have so much of a better time if people stopped thinking their experience with genshin is how all people feel about genshin. it also doesn't help that they're not funny by saying the same stock npc phrases all the time like it really doesn't do what they think it does. anyway i can't wait for clorinde to come out i want her to kill me
@@FliponYT Toxic Kuro Fans? Genshin is THE most TOXIC community constantly harassing, stalking, and sending death threats to VAs you got MTRASHED and TECTRASHED built this toxicity Kuro fans toxicity? Stop making up lies enjoy your genshin slow motion exploration EXPERIENCE you masochist BOI
Genshin community is as blind as ever I see.. The recent tectone vid on WW v Genshin literally does a better job at explaining than this plus the rewards in Genshin and its various other problems still exist in the game wild.
@@FliponYT when you’re actively comparing the two you honestly should cause you’re basing your arguments off of bugs etc which literally existed at launch of Genshin.
@@robbiesarkioglu5623lol. The copium in the weathering waves community is hilarious. Go back and watch early reviews of Genshin. Nobody was crying about optimisation or bugs. I just remember M tash literally crying in a video. Because he spent $7000. lol.
No brother its every 3 years they get that reward😂 it took them 3 years to get a total of 3 pulls next 3 years genshin will give them 6 pulls for 6 years
@@killerzombies96 and "compensation" sells people. But sure, you can complain and not work for anything, thats understandable. I just sit back with my 300+ pulls in genshin and watch the whiners who only value "compensation" in a game and nothing else since they want sht handed to them. Once a game steps into late development those rewards will be meaningless or not even accessible anymore.
While some of your points I 100% agree with, I can't help but notice you are almost looking forward to the downfall of WuWa. While I do agree that it won't be the genshin killer, it'll certainly take a decent chunk of the playerbase (similarly to me). This however doesn't mean we can't play both games as a Genshin player who has played since day 1, my only content is clearing the abyss and dailies which takes about 10 minutes a day and 20 minutes for the abyss. The game is amazing especially for those who enjoy a more combat-focused game, though the launch has been HEAVILY rocky. I do believe that part of what will attract players to WuWa asides from "Oh new game, new gacha, hype" is the fact that Kuro has been known to be a very good company and one that listens to their players; This has been made evident by how fast they're fixing the issues and have compensated. Sure you can say that the issues shouldn'y have been there at launch but they didn't want that either but are actively and quickly taking action.
To be fair I would like to have a real competitor that pushes it and I think it would be better if Wuwa had a really good launch but I just think it’s ironic how hyped up this game was by the commercial to where Genshin was being antagonised just for this to happen.
Genshin killer was always a bad take. Genshin fans didn't want another Genshin and those that didn't like Genshin did not want another Genshin. Wuthering Waves is peak for someone like me that wanted a "Genshin for Gamers". But it's an illusion that there would ever be enough "gamers" to meet Genshin's audience status. It's also why Genshin will never reach Candy Crush numbers. It's just about the size of the market to which you appeal. People looking for challenging gameplay compared to people looking for beautiful art, suspenseful storytelling (mysterious), and completely anxiety free recreation are an EXTREME minority. "Genshin for Gamers" will still be a success in the niche as it should be as long as it does not implode. Because Genshin was dead to me since 1.5 simply because I do not enjoy it. I did not need a killer, I needed an alternative more tuned to me as a consumer. And, yes, it's good that they copied Genshin and modified it for the people that wanted a different gameplay experience. It's the game equivalent of "Can I have the Double Cheeseburger but no mayo?" It doesn't always take much change to completely change an experience.
Don’t understand the need for Game Wars. It’s good to have variety and maybe some pressure for the companies to develop the games further. I still play GI in the back burner, after almost 4 years it’s more of a habit. Star rail is the one I’m excited for. The storytelling is so good. Might give WuWa a go once they have the PlayStation version going.
If you ask me if who i am gonna pick between a company who treats us like a money generator and don't listening to customers for almost 4 years and a company who is so generous that I can't believe that is actually posible and just released 3 days ago. I mean my choice is obvious but hey you do you, I just want my game to atleast have some respect to its players.
Awww yeah the prodigal son is back with some hot takes I couldn’t agree more with! The problem with WuWa is not the game, it’s the million content creators and players glazing it and hyping it beyond reason because they are bitter at hoyoverse or because they hope this is their chance to grow as creators. Playing a game as a form of rebound sex, I knew gacha gamers were messed up but this is ridiculous. Imagine dating someone who is with you because you look kinda like their ex. Now that’s a red flag. No disrespect to WuWa or anyone that plays it. While it doesn’t seem to be my cup of tea, I think it’s a very nice game. Also where have you been flip? We have been suffering through clorinde beta changes for weeks! We’re down in the trenches here! We need your opinion on the upcoming sexy mamacita.
With the amount of bugs and the very short period between release date announcement and the release I genuinely think Kuro rushed the game to come out during genshin's content drought. Because they either release now an unfinished product or they take time to fix the bugs and release during first patches of Natlan OR they wait out for another drought period. There's just no winning in this situation. Besides, 4.7 is pretty stacked for a dry patch. It has a new archon quest, a new game mode, 3 characters, 2 character quests, some minor QoL and a Furina rerun. I give WuWa another two weeks. Which is kinda a shame, I wanted genshin to have competition but at this point I don't think it's possible
Aside from the Archon Quest, nothing to look forward to in 4.7. It’s a pretty dry patch (I don’t count characters as content because not everyone is going to get them). The QoL is non existent too. Best thing is the Resin cap increase, but that alone won’t do much in the long run.
4:31 Rewatching the video and I have to say that u were so right abt this. I've seen people being only slightly negative or even just pointing out issues they encountered without being mean in the slightest and u'll see wuwa glazers go:"Genshin had the same problem but worse, you never criticize Genshin", "hoyo shill" , "I don't have this problem so it is not a big deal/you made that up to ruin kuro" "skill issue/media illiterate" "fake". I even saw someone making a post with all the problems they have with genshin to not be accused of being a hoyo shill. How can these people deepthroat a company this hard? It's like they are in a cult or something.
I find it hilarious that people are claiming Genshin teased Natlan or increased the resin cap or any other announcement because of WuWa. Like, do they really think Hoyo changed their content schedule just to accommodate WuWa? 😮💨 WuWa needs to be so much bigger for Hoyo to even think about paying attention to them.
The Natlan stuff, no. They teased Fontaine in 3.7 as well. But the Resin increase? That’s way too much of a coincidence to not be because of WuWa, especially when, back in version 3 they told people they would never increase the resin cap again. Why now of all times, and not a big update like 5.0?
we all know that them increasing the resin cap didn't just coincidentally line up with the release of WuWa. It was so out of the blue and was something people have been complaining about for years. I refuse to believe that a multi billion dollar company with a large amount of employees decided to incorporate a highly requested change slower than my grandma could've done it on the release of another game that was supposedly going to be in direct competition with it. That shit lined up way too perfectly for my liking. I doubt them teasing Natlan has anything to do with WuWa though
@@brak2300 "large scale"... *if* the resin cap was a response to WuWa, why is the resin increase only to 200 and not 240, like WuWa or HSR? Why does energy in WuWa still generate faster than Genshin resin? Genshin development is practically on auto pilot. Since it can afford to ignore it's direct player/fan base for years, it can afford to ignore the release of another competitor.
@@matoiryuko9444 I have obligations that take priority over video games, ones that require me to go outside. I said I would "try" to balance them for a reason lol. I am not terribly optimistic that I can make it work
Aight, time for a yapfest rant of mine: I think another factor which people seem to overlook from my perspective are first impressions, WuWa in comparison to Genshin failed horribly at giving me a good first impression, perfomance issues, a horrible dub direction on the English version and one of the most sleeper yapfest introductions, I've had seen in recent time. Most notably the introduction of the story, Genshin doesnt have as much yapping on the beginning of the game (Mondstadt) but, WuWa just ten minutes into the game already starts trying to explain and cram as many terms as possible making it hard to keep up with, they want us to care about the world already when we just started playing the game and barely even met the characters that follow us where as Genshin fed us small bits of info to process it all at a good pace making it easier for people to care about the world building of the game and play long term, WuWa from a first impression standpoint only just soured my experience with the game and I'm already questioning if it's worth playing in the long run. tldr; genshin unlike wuwa left off a good first impression which lead lots of people to want to play more. anyways, this is all ill say on this brain damage yapfest of mine.
Yep like bro they even yapped explaining how the artifact systems work in the main quest...was that seriously needed? Imagine if Amber randomly started tapping explaining the in-story logic behind how artifacts work...
Yes, I don't think lore enjoyer will like the story so far, yes there is not much story so far but, I remember when I first play Genshin it's feel magical. But good for the combat enjoyer, they have full skip story button, might as well just create button to skip the whole thing and just get the reward.
Yeah, Wuwa was not ready for release. The game's revenue is doing poorly in China and Japan, which is a bad sign for the long term health of the game. Kuro is already in a lot of debt to Tencent to make this game. Kuro is also struggling to fix up the game and haven't even released the beta for the 1.1 patch yet. No money = weak future updates = players will get bored and leave There was also a Japanese text error on the Jiyan weapon banner that made it look stronger than it actually was, which caused Japanese players to be furious and are flaming Kuro. There were players who were able to exploit and buy multiple of the $100 pack for $1 and as far as I know, I didn't hear anything about them being banned. There was a bug where music completely stopped playing. Marco Meatball said the music is weak. You can see text and localization errors everywhere in game. There's non-stop voice acting issues, on top of the story being underwhelming. Kuro fired more than 100 freshmen before release, when they should have kept them to work on this game.
Great video, summarized many of my thoughts about WuWa. I agree about the Pandemic Boost for Genshin, but I do feel like WuWa has a Genshin Boost as well, the specific genre wouldn’t be as popular as it is now without Genshin. So it’s a shame to see that WuWa at launch is basically a Genshin for people who hate Genshin, hopefully they get their updates out, but I feel bad for the devs who are working overtime because of poor planning
The visuals of a game are very important for me personally and I just don't like the look of WuWa. I feel like the higher resolution and amount of details don't actually work in the games favor, because it ends up looking a bit rough and unpolished. Also the colours aren't as vibrant as I would like. It's a bit bland and lifeless overall. Same goes for the character designs imo. I think it's nice that there is more variety of body types and even face shapes between characters. Out of all of them Jianxin is the only one I really liked though.
@@FliponYT to be fair... wuwa is a post apocalyptic setting so it makes sense its not as bright and cheerful as genshin... they probably did that deliberately because the game literally takes place after a huge disaster which is the main plot for the game.
@@arcanumelite4853 A pink skirt and a full sleeve blueish shirt with a reddish brown pair of sneakers are still pink, blueish and reddish brown even during world war. Just because you're in the desert doesn't mean you have to wear brown, orange-ish gray, washed out blacks to fit the "setting" you're in. But enough about that, even if you change colors of what characters wear in wuwa or the world environment in it, it still won't look good because the design of these things are generic, mediocre at best. Everyone's wearing the same type of design slightly altered by over designed or under designed, and add bland colors to that, you have a masterpiece, not. English va line delivery, I fell asleep for 2 hours listening to them. What's happening in wuwa? Idk i just got yeeted to a world where I can walk and these 2 girls were yapping info after info and I still don't know why I'm here, what's happening. Let's talk about endgame. What is it? Wuwa has endgame therefore it's better than Genshin? Ofc not. Remember, both Genshin and Wuwa are live service games, there is no endgame. Their lifespan will keep expanding as long there's players and more stories to stretch out or add so ya no, having endgame content don't mean jack. What differentiates Genshin and others is that Genshin is inviting, has massive personality in both characters and world building, element reaction combat is fun and oh the music. Remember there is no real endgame in wuwa or hsr or whatever. You can keep believing that and still play your pale white dead game like wuwa, you'll realise in your 3rd year of playing and investment in wuwa that there was never an endgame in the first place. Good luck.
Gold and swarm are technically end game and they refer to as endgame is difficult content that test your character your spending time building and use them it useless to have perfect stat and everything dies in 5 second where hsr and wuwa have good endgame From what ive seen so far better than genshin for sure even quote and quote new end game there hp is even less then spiral abyss from leak zajef video idk how that supposed to me hard
Lmfao. The monotone look in wuthering waves is literally what makes it look so amazing😂😂, but go ahead, keep on playing genshin, the game thats going to die just days after the story finishes😂😂😂@@denish-themenace
3:06 HSR kinda does have an “Archon” equivalent, that being Emanators, but no one really knows who or when an emanator is going to get released. HSR still does have the “Fatui Harbingers” type characters though, with the myriad factions and paths revealed in the data bank and the path introduction trailer.
@@ziebus904 you think a smaller studio is going to be able to release more content and Genshin. Get ready for a rude awakening , they’re going to spend the next 2 to 3 months fixing the game , so time will tell
The game just came out, so some bugs are kinda expected. The thing is that it's been so hyped up that people's expectations were already close to unmeetable to begin with. Now that it's out aside from the bugs I 've heard people complain about story, characters, voice acting and music as well. The only thing I hear people praise consistently is the combat. And when the bugs are fixed those complaints will remain. The thing that worries me the most is that they may listen too much at least from a story perspective, since I've heard they rewrote the story after beta testers complained. Rewriting the story based on people's complaints will not only start to be confusing, it'll be a lot of additional work when they want to have regular upates and keep it consistent, so I hope for them this was just a one time thing.
@@s4tya_ae885 All wuwa has is the cope article made by Gamelook which is owned by tencent and hasn't talked about any other gacha game besides glazing wuwa btw lmfao! Even if we grant wuwa that 110m, arle banner made WuWa's whole bag in 2 weeks on iOS only compared to wuwa's high balled all platforms revenue lol. Wuwa has never been and will never be close.
Yup, I agree with most of the points. The only thing I disagree with the identity part. It will have one eventually like Genshin "BOTW clone" allegations back in the day. Anyway, Genshin is the new WOW. Nothing can truly Kill it but itself. It will end if HY decided that the Teyvat Chapter is the last chapter for the game which is about 3 acts left. As for WW, I expected them to be Genshin Rival and never the killer. It remains to be seen if they will be able to bounce back from disaster of a launch or fall as bad as TOF. I do believe on Kuro Games potential with this title though.
my attention to keep on watching and getting worried on wuwa is slowly disappearing. when I got to act 6 i got all i want and even better. for me it gave what i needed when i kept on being disappointed in genshin. the last time i remembered someone dying that i was moved in genshin was that npc on inazuma. but in dragonspine and inazuma, people doesn't seem to like it. i expected natlan to be something like inazuma but it's spyro. meanwhile in act 4 of wuwa, people are trading their loved ones life for their gains but it wasn't shown and still poorly written. in act 6 we get heroic npcs died to protect something important for the city. genshin story has way better story telling and everything except i play gacha to see people die and see the characters suffering and bear the flag left by other people hence they become the important characters that the world needs. if they don't do it like this in future chapters. i might not quit but i'll stop spending on the game.
Imo the biggest reason that WuWa is going to struggle is because of just how long Genshin has been out. There has never really been such a staple gacha game like Genshin. WuWa has to not only draw people in, but essentially convince people to give up the Genshin Accounts they’ve worked on for years at this point. I’ve spent hundreds of dollars on Genshin, that alone makes me hesitant to dedicate too much time into another direct focus gacha. Yes y’all I understand you can play both but I definitely won’t spend money on both or dedicate the same amount of time to each. Thats the issue WuWa is facing.
Yeah exactly, there's no way I'm gonna quit a game i played for years, got invested in the story, raised characters etc for a new game that doesn't seem to have better graphics or story
@@ssarellas Genshins 1.0 story was trash, the gameplay is so mind-numbingly easy, you could play it efficiently while literally falling asleep. Genshins story up until late sumeru was hot garbage, in inazume it picked up slightly but then fell off right after the signora fight. Meanwhile, wuthering waves has better exploration, launch characters, better 1.0 story, more fluid and rewarding gameplay, and its content actually needs to be played.
bro the genshin bias goes crazy. first off saying WUWA is a copy of genshin impact is kinda slack because one, WUWA is more combat based and two there is a replayable system through echoes and more endgame. Additionally, there is a complete different element system or lack there of and on top of that the exploration system is actually more seamless and enjoyable due to the moment. So to conclude no WUWA is not copy of genshin. It just does what genshin can do but better. To top it off, the fact that you mentioned the WUWA community attacking VAs but fail to realise how often the genshin community does it is crazy. So yeah keep collecting mint buddy
@@simonditomasso9868 never said that wuwa critism is bad lil bro, just said it should be seen as an inspiration rather than an all out copy and even then it’s still a better game lmao
Without any biases, WUWA story sucks ass at the start and I could not bare it. The fighting is fun but its only thing that is charming to me. The development of character is barely existing and feels like each character just exists as a 'code' rather than a character.
For all of you wondering whats up with my mic I got a new one (I broke my old one) and I like was speaking into the plastic and not the mic itself… it will sound better in future video’s don’t worry
4:32 " Has the worst fangames of any gacha games " Genshin : VA harrasment, 1 star reviewbombing, Meta vs Causual mentality, F2P vs Spender mentality, Toxic Positivity... Flip : I SLEEP It's a joke, don't take seriously 😂
@@FliponYT hey lets be real here 99% games at launch have problems, i am already thankfull i dont need to wait 10+ hours in line just to get in the game like with nw (new world) and i know that most people only ever played genshin so they dont know but again most games (i think all the games i played at launch had some problems) have bugs, servers die, problems with optimisation etc, but i hope the optimisation will be better, bcs rn its lagy and the game has micro freeze's but it only matter of time when they fix this, also i hope people can just enjoy both games and not have a war...
most ppl in the community are hell bent on comparing wuwa to jenshin, a game releasing a week ago to a game releasing 4 years ago, but they fail to realise that every game has strengths and weaknesses(not every games, if you know, you know) jenshin has better story(now) and wuwa has better combat yes jenshin story wasn't much in 1.0 but it got better, while I don't have much hope from wuwa story, as someone who has played kuro's other game, Punishing Gray Raven, i am atill coping for that to happen in wuwa as well
Its not just Genshin they were scared of, they were clearly terrified of ZZZ in a month so they rushed this out the door before it was ready. Elden Ring, then ZZZ, then Natlan, guess they felt they had to do it now or wait til Winter, shoulda waited. Now they've screwed themselves and the game is almost as buggy as Tower of Fantasy at launch. Grim situation to be in.
Lol pmuch, it was either drop it now and rush optimizations before natlan or wait till december. And even then theres still danger cuz thats when SR starts hyping up the next planet & other competitors like Pmugen might drop beta info
@@FliponYT Very spot-on on the community, people really bring out their worst when Genshin does something and think it's a reaction from WuWa when in fact, if that's the case then it even makes Genshin better as a whole. And these clownsters tryna clown change just coz it gave them happiness for a while from them asking, begging but ended up hating just coz they couldn't get their crack from MiHoYo.
For any game to surpass a Behemoth toping the charts, it's only possible if that Behemoth fails its audience massively. We don't want that to happen to any of those games. We want each of them to inspire us and get new ideas to surprise us.
The only time I recall something like what you describe happened was on Dehya's release, but oh so coincidentally that patch was pretty much at the same time of Starrail's launch. ZZZ release will probably be the same. Also sidenote but zzz is honestly my reaction when I see other hoyo games lmfao
Maybe it's not the genshin or hsr or wuwa communities that are bad and toxic, maybe it's all the gacha players who find anime girls more attractive than real ones Maybe gacha games are a natural breeding ground for incels
gacha games have always been notorious for being breeding grounds for incels. They design the characters specifically to cater to that demographic. I'm fairly certain the genshin devs have gone on record saying that their game is designed for people who don't talk to real men/women 😂
I'm waiting for it to come to console before I download it and give it a chance. Maybe by then, the technical issues will have been sorted out, the story telling and VA work will be improved and, more importantly, the community will have cooled down a bit with the constant "Versus Genshin" mentality. Sanhua and Jiyan look boss tho.
Apart from yinlin, nothing tempts me from installing wuwa. Also, we aussies will not have a fun time in 300ms in wuwa so forget about it. But the game looks gorgeous(albeit unoriginal) and mechanics seems cool ngl. I hope wuwa players enjoy the game.
I will say that ping isnt as big an issue since a lot of things happen client side like the combat. Thats also why that yinlin bug exists since the store trial thing also is client side so setting ur date like a month gave you access to her.
personally, i've played wuthering waves for quite a bit & have made some vids on it, i got into it since thundah was excited for it & that got me interested. i like the game its got good visuals/combat but i still like genshin impact more my main prob with wuwa is the worldbuilding is pretty bad. like the story sucks... the combat is good but i'm not sure how i'll feel about the game in 1-2 weeks. my current review is that i think its cool & i like the combat but i might become more critical of it once i'm out of the honeymoon/early phase the devs are fairly generous tho C: outside of that, if the daily grind bores me i might drop it once the hype phase is over. as of now, might as well enjoy covering it while it lasts good video man!
i prefer wuwa over genshin. hoyo devs are honestly horrible for not listening to players. ive stopped playing genshin and stopped watching genshin content because i want gacha games to die
Genuine question, but would you really refer to what’s going on with WuWa as listening to players? Personally, I think there’s a big difference between receiving feedback from surveys and updating the game, to immediately kneeling over to immense hatred received from having a very rough launch and doing everything possible to keep player retention while they make their needed changes. Now the WuWa devs are working overtime and hiring new writers, it’s a bad first impression from poor planning and time management. I respect their efforts, but they really should’ve delayed the launch
Does wuwa actually require higher performance than genshin cuz my mobile is able to run genshin without a hitch but wuwa not only lags my device but also heats. Lagging in combat which is a lot more interactive just makes me mad.
Yes, because Wuwa use Unreal Engine 4 while genshin use Unity. In short, most UE4 games are required very high spec to play the game smoothly. Most AAA nowadays use it as well. So clearly, these games are only targeted for certain demographic
WUWA's minimum requirement for mobile is SD 835. That means your mobile should be able to play Genshin at the highest settings comfortably to be able to meet WUWA's minimum requirement.
One thing you didn’t mention is the ps4/ps5 release. WuWa, has no direct release, much like ToF, for ps4/5, which hsr didnt do either. Genshins release for all systems definitely helped it out massively and is another big factor for its popularity, compared to other gachas
Wuthering Waves was such a good genshin killer it also killed itself 🗣
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Gumi spitting bars
Genshin players: Support WuWa so Hoyoverse will give us free 5 stars!!!
Wuwa: giving free 5 stars to prevent die in one month
Genshin Players: .........
Dosen't seem dead to me
Wuthering Waves can't kill genshin. But it can definitely compete with genshin. Competition is good for us consumers
It can't
It's literally a lot worse
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp It's suffering from optimization issues rn but we gotta give it time. Wuwa is a really good game in itself. All they gotta do is improve the optimization
@@justsomeguywithoutabeard8306 it's not a good game. It's bland and unoriginal, doing a lot of things worse than the games it took inspiration from
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp okay, what things do you think can be improved?
@@AngryLad_80 character design, character writing, world design. Movements animations feel awful rn. Voice acting is horrible, at least the english one. Story is really bad. Also if WW wants to live longer than tof did, it needs to find its own identity because right now it's a weird amalgamation of unrelated pieces taken from other games. Less bugs, lags and crashes would be cool too
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE FANBASE! I said I didn't like the bugs and my friend got really motion sick playing and I got fucking dogpiled. It's almost impossible to find anyone critiquing WuWa because the fanbase is full of assholes who think you're a genshin fanboy even if all you say is "i think this game could use more polish"
I didn't even bring genshin up and people were insulting the shit out of me. At least with genshin the toxicity is usually only around twitter and tectone holy shit. I WAS going to stick around and see if the game improved, but after that? Hell no, i'm not having it take up my storage space if i have to deal with a community like that.
Rip dude, i'm sorry the game was ruined for you by the fanbase.
first paragraph real
It’s crazy how ppl expect a brand new game to be as polished as a 4 year old game
it is not even as polished as genshin day 1.
@maddasher8471 hoyoverse is also a billion dollar company and genshin is the most expensive game ever made
@@maddasher8471 Because Hoyo put more money into it.
@@herbertcoxe3601kuro put more money than genshin into wuwa tho...
@@maddasher8471 TF are you talking about the 1st week of genshin was also chaotic, And had a lot of bugs too. Every new game has those.
Honestly, I think the game is fun, but man, seeing this how game talked about is exhausting. It's always about how it's related to genshin that I honestly didn't even know how the game played or about the story. The only thing i heard was how" genshin could never" apparently.
It's basically a fandom war, it's honestly more productive to play the game that you like than discuss, debate or fight over which one is better on social media 😂
Oh pls play the game and see how its so similar to genshin in many aspects:
you start of seeing some divine goddess like being whose symbol on is that of a elongated star similar to certain someone and you are whisked into a unfamiliar world where u dont remember anything and u meet the mascot of the game and she introduces u to the world, sound familiar ? mhmm i thought so. The game also has five echo slots just like 5 artifcact slots, a dialogue system that is exactly the same and exploration progressing that is exactly the same, So if genshin was a BoTW copy then Wuwa is a Genshin copy cased close.
To be fair, almost every single system in the game is an exact Genshin copy, except for the combat. To the smallest details, all I see while playing is ‘ah, yeah, like in Genshin’, ‘ah cool, that’s Genshin’. It’s kind of shameless and unnecessary. Like, you couldn’t have changed the BP design even a bit?
@@minthantmaung8643 tell me you didn't play the game without telling me you didn't play the game
@@minthantmaung8643 Traveler doesn't have amnesia though, and in WuWa the goddes like person is pretty clearly a positive character at least for first glance and in Genshin she look and act antagonistic. Yeah they are familiar, but not the same. + They allowed to use aspect from other mediums, bruh. It is how art work.
I don't care if WuWa surpasses, people will come back still stick around and seeing the devs actually listening and acting on what the community says I think it won't fail or fall off it will just have smaller community than genshin
Do we even expect any gacha surpass genshin it had almost everything going for it when it release
@@rhoem1353 true
I’m happy for both Coexisting becuz I like genshin characters and I wanna see another successful game like genshin exist and genshin having competition would be great I hope wuwa STRIVES
You have it backwards. Gacha games 'listen' to feedback is because the game is trying to make money. The more these games are failing the more they need to give free stuff to entice people to spend. Genshin is less generous and less responsive because it doesn't have to be.
@@PArtemisH 100% true
Some people in the west keeps on saying oh genshin is dying or oh genshin killer but how i see it is a good competition like a rivalry maybe in the west wuwa will be more popular then genshin idk idc because they dont realise that genshin is so HUGE in the east that's it's unkillable espically in CHINA rn i'm studying in china rn in 广州 and i can SAFELY say that it is everywhere highschool,adults,uni students a lot of them have genshin merch even during at the weekends they cosplay as genshin characters for fun
TLDR: I hate those western people or content creators that saying genshin is dying or dead because of wuwa what a ignorance take why not just call it a competitor💀
I think the problem WuWa has, apart from being unpolished xd, is that it needs much more to set up its own identity, having a different gameplay ain't enough if you're gonna copy the presentation
I hope they solve those issues and it becomes at least a game with a decent amount of consistent player numbers, it'd be a waste to see a game launch and die in a relatively short period
wtf is this take? We don’t need a genshin killer, we need healthy competition that’s not from, yknow, the same company
I need to pick 1 game on my phone, I choose wuwa because their 3D are more good and their characters are to notch especially yinlin and changli
Edit: I quit genshin, I already sold my account 😂
Acting like 1.0 didn't have a massive dry period is crazy.
I didn’t say that and even then 1.4 and 1.5 were the only bad stretches of the version
@@FliponYT you straight up said Genshin added a lot of content at first. It really didn’t lol.
1.3’s first lantern rite was barren remember? We talked to npcs the whole time.
@@wilburforce8046yeah the genshin glazing is crazy. People just forget how bad it was during launch and how much rage there was about it trying to copy breath of the wild lol.
@@FliponYT "plethora of content on release" literally one minute into the video
Also forgot to mention the amount of security issues back then
Why compare and hate, when you can have BOTH. I'm living the life. 💅
You are so right about game's community. tbh I'd be willing to give WW more of a chance, but I just know it's going to have an annoying and toxic fanbase which, coupled with all the other issues, makes me not want to bother with this game at all, and with ZZZ coming out soon, I'd rather just wait and get invested in that when it comes out.
Well, for what it's worth, genshin's community is way worse, especially the twitter part of the community, the stuff they say sometimes genuinely makes me puke.
...you're waiting for ZZZ to be less toxic when they already had internal conflict about Nicole's chest getting nerfed? Ok. Lmao.
@nebulamask81 I'd rather see some dumbass shit like that then see "guys WW better than genshin!!!! XD ". I don't want to go to a community of a game just to see them shitting on another game I like, it's annoying af, and I know it's gonna stay like that. Besides WW is mid af IMO, why would I play a game I don't like? ZZZ looks a lot more exciting to me.
@@fioragap Nice cope.
Ah yes, the healthy community you're looking forward to that complains about anime tatas lmao. Be real. Genshin players are also saying Genshin is better than WW and Star Rail players are saying it's better than Genshin and blah blah blah every game has these people especially in gatcha games. Just be honest and admit you're a mhy fanboy, it's not that hard.
I´ve seen way more Genshin players attacking WW than the other way around. And the "Genshin killer" related memes come from Burnt out Genshin players... not toxic WW players.
01:49 what the fuck is that team
The peak of genshin
dude cooked
Nuclear Lynette
Hey Noir, Why did you take down the response to Zajef's cyno video? I really liked it and i wanna watch it again
What the fuck are you?
They hate him because he is spitting fax, also the wuwa fandom became exactly what they hated... "Shills"
so whose fandom is better now? genshin fandom or wuwa fandom?
Great video as always. You basically summed up the feelings I had when playing Wuwa, "It would've been great.. if Genshin didn't exist". The first few months of any game tends to be polarizing, so I get the hate for the toxicity and all. Once the Wuwa hype dies down, we'll really see it for what it really was in retrospect.
I don't think people really want WuWa to surpass Genshin, except a select few. IMO, I quit Genshin a long time ago because I didn't want to keep an endless grind for no reward (being that I can already dominate everything). WuWa fits that niche perfectly and honestly, that's enough. It will retain a sizeable playerbase with what I've seen so far and I don't think it's going anywhere, it won't die, it'll just not be as popular.
And it doesn't need to be, to be a sucessful game. I hope it surpass Genshin though, because that should (at least I hope) force Genshin to then want to surpass it back. The dynamics of competition, both improving, gamers with more and better options. I don't get why people stay on stupid fanboyism rooting for one or the other to fail. It's dumb.
@@samirSch very much agree with you. fanboyism/fangirlism makes things stagnant. never to improve.
bro thinks he is future teller
I am🗣️
The sheer hypocrisy is incredible lmao
Typical genshin shills
Very valid points. Moreover I love GI world building using Mythology and Phylosophy content.
@@rcruzcarvalho *philosophy
This video aged well
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No shit, they better listen unless they wanna waste money mr eango. anyways silver wolf best short omnipotent lesbian
@@dezcrux but the free 5* vs say a Genshin bug fix you get less they’re actively listening and aren’t even as greedy.
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 if you NEED to give out free 5* which has no value outside of the game to elevate your game, then your base game is not appealing enough. let me remind you that these so called 5* are something that they make themselves, it doesnt make them lose to hand them out for free cuz as a gacha game they're pretty much obliged to make characters anyways. dont let these devs sway you so easily for something that you never really needed in the first place just so you can play their unpolished game. genshin doesnt need to give out free 5* because hoyo knows youll play the goddamn game anyway because its good, the game isnt tied to only the 5*. know the difference
@@dezcrux so are you saying actively listening and rewarding it’s fanbase isn’t elevating the game cause isn’t that entirely the point and a good thing..? Genshin had problems at release as well and gave you less idk y you Genshin fans are oblivious to this there’s in a ongoing meme in your community about the toxicity of attacking VA or even the bad Rewards if anything I’d say Hoyo has gotten so big and they can’t even properly give you a measly decent reward. I come from PGR & Arknights and honestly Kuro will get there act together just knowing the quality they put out on boss fights and the characters/ Combat from the previous Ip I don’t see why they wouldn’t.
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 you could say that but genshin was the first open world mobile gacha game, if it weren't for genshin success kuro wouldn't even bother to try and develop wuwa xd (they even double down on making the game as similar as hoyo games, is originality really that hard to come by that even most of the UI and fundamental is the exact same?)
Also i dont label myself as someone from this community, i just play the game, couldn't care less about people on Twitter ever, never even used that platform other than for looking at arts
Bro the glazing here is crazy,and we dont even want it to kill genshin,we just want it to compete
“GENSHIN COULD NEVER” for the past 3 months was surely a good faith way of just wanting competition
@@FliponYT Genshin could never is Just a meme lol,If you take It serios well your fault there
@@FliponYT not to mention, this meme is the literal truth in most of the aspects
@@Ocacadordecasadas can be a meme, and an outlet for anger at the same time. I'm not going to trust comments coming from people who just have a bone to pick with a a game i actually like. Cause it's very obvious a lot of vocal WuWA fangirls are butthurt genshin fans. I almost hope genshin doesn't give away a free 5 star ever just out of spite. I'm all for some legitimate criticism. But you guys are just straight up annoying.
@@Dhalinar Why? Yeah we may be memeing genshin,but at the end of the day most of It is actually true,you cant argue about It when WW literally responded to a problem fast as fuck and gave a good compensation for It,at the end of the day,It is not our fault when genshin players have been trashing this game since It was revealed Just bacause yes,now that we are giving payback we are the anoying ones? Like common
I think you might be viewing past genshin through rose tinted glasses. After launch the game essentially felt barren until 2.0. Im very sure wuthering waves will feel dry too for a while and fall off a little but not die. The devs already have an incredibly strong grip on community support because they listen and reward. It wont take years for them to optimize unlike genshin. Im certain ww will be a viable competitor for the crown in less than a year.
Edit: To everyone saying this game is trash and it's going to die, I think you're letting you're emotions get in the way. This game just needs to solve some phone optimization problems and it'll be at a good starting point. Since the start I've seen something like 4 hot fixes in 3 days. They are diligent. And while my computer only crashed once with genshin launch it was still buggy. Falling/spawning bellow the map, being killed in cut scenes, unintentional camera angles that didn't let you see anything during cutscenes, getting you're character stuck in the falling animation in the open world, weapons and artifacts not doing what they said they did, terrible English (in my opinion was never really fixed). Something about stones in a glass house.
I pray for this to be the case. I'm trying the game myself, and so far it hasn't pulled me in like Genshin did. (In part, probably because I've played Genshin already.)
I love Genshin, but it definitely needs a true competitor. And besides, *hoping* for something to fail is just mean.
If they listened then why are most of the issues present in CBT2 still here? The release was too rushed
The tutorial is so trash they're prioritizing a skip button for it. WuWa already blew it by making so many bounce off that garbage tutorial.
@@fat4eyes using a skip button as a negative when we've been begging for it in genshin is actually insane
‘They listen and reward’. They are in full on panic mode, throwing pulls and standard 5 stars around, hoping it will convince people to give the game a 2nd try, after the disaster that was launch day. That’s not listening, that crisis management. We have no way of telling whether they will actually listen to more structural feedback, long-term. Hoyo listened when the Chinese community almost burned down HQ when dragon daddy ZL launched in a bad state. They’re not listening anymore though.
Ever since star rails release I have felt so bad about how i used to think about honkai impact players 😂 They aint got nothing on what i see nowadays. Their comparisons were the training wheels for what would come later.
Take me back to when people constantly repeatedly pointing out that Ei is based on Mei was the most annoying thing i had to deal with
"You have provoked a gang war"
i don’t plan on playing WuWa but regardless i hope it does well so genshin has some actual competition in its niche, which is obviously beneficial for all players as hyv will hopefully be less complacent in order to stay ahead of their competitors
They rushed too quick to come out before Natlan and now there are so many issues that the hype for a lot of people has taken a hit
I didn't have any issue tbh
yep and unless they work their ass of for the next few months the people well all abandon it for natlan
They gave a free 5★ for damage control lmao@@spacesushi210
It's just like WoW back in the day with all the "WoW killers" . There were better MMO's that came out but they never eclipsed WoW's numbers because of the first mover advantage it had. GI is similar in this respect. For a game to kill GI it would have to be as good against Genshin ans Genshin was when compared to the standard of what other Gachas were when GI debuted.
Exact same thing happened with fortnite too. It’s just a trend to hate on whatever is the most popular
FUN FACT WOW IS FUCNING DEAD
......so think before you speak please
The problem is, people are Coming into this game after being burnt out of Genshin,
I’ve given weathering waves a fair shake , about 10 hours.
And the first thing I will say is it deserves it Genshin impact comparison ( and not in a good way )
They stole literally every design choice Genshin impact made, I’m generally shocked , Like I mean everything.
weathering waves is Genshin impact for an older audience.
It’s more like a more polished version of tower of fantasy . But has nowhere near the quality that Genshin has achieved.
Combat a little overrated because yes, you can do more. But it doesn’t flow as well 8/10. This will mainly be a taste thing
Character design Better than tower fantasy But not Genshin. 7 out 10. Not bad, but not great
Open world , Feels uninspired and copy and paste , Doesn’t have that handcrafted feel that Genshin has.
Voice acting. Straight up bad , With a bad translation added
Story also boring with a poor intro,
Again, again, I’ll say this for people who are burnt out on Genshin and enjoy this game. That’s great.
But I believe the positivity towards the game ( over hyping ) has more to do with negativity towards Genshin. X GI Content creators looking to cover something else. Hoping is will be big,
I’ll give it about two months before the I quit video’s start Coming out from the content creators.
I generally was hyped for this game, but ultimately it’s disappointing.
It’s a 6 out of 10.
Ur review and analysis is spot on
ruclips.net/video/SRXxx7s8B5o/видео.html lol that was quick
tectone will probably react to this because he gets triggered every time a cc says anything critical about wuwa lol
Why are you bringing other people into this like you want drama at this point lol
@@LauraJinkins-pi8sv I don't, i just know how tectone is lol. He scans the internet for anything negative about wuwa or himself, gets triggered easily and reacts to it
@@ssarellas bringing him up isn’t helping. Not to mention no? Most of the time it’s his chat trying to enable and illicit an reaction from him, it’s just rage bait
@@LauraJinkins-pi8sv No it's not? He doesn't have to do what his chat tells him to do, his whole content revolves around him causing drama and being the genshin hater. He built his community around that, so don't blame his chat for it. He obviously likes doing that
Also you will see that I am right, he will react to this video at some point because he can't stand criticism of wuwa, especially when it's related with genshin
@@ssarellas I’m not saying he doesn’t like doing it , I’m saying he doesn’t actively search for it his chat is the ones giving him the content.
This is from a HSR and Genshin Player, Im gonna yap a bit sry
It might be because WuWa only just release but i was playing on my phone but the camera when moving/gliding was wonky and was giving me motion sickness (or probably just my phone) and all of the cutscenes sound are not aligned properly and that really threw me off when there was an epic cutscenes it really turn me off bcuz of it. Another thing is the VA idk if its just me i feel like the character voices were emotionless like with the lion boy story quest ( forgot his name sry), the only emotion that i felt was when he was angry in the end of the quest. ik this might be in the endgame but i feel like the tuning system is really Dogsh*t why do you have to level and tune it before seeing the substat (This may get better but still). another problem is the yapping in the quest there was so much info dump on us on the first chapter ik some ppl are ok with this but i only enjoyed the last act where there was action and little yapping but they still explain whats going on on those little yap session. But i will probably stick around since I like the combat of this game and like the story currently but i hope kuro games will fix some its problems in the upcoming patches. also plz Come home Encore :]
Yeah I've actually listen story and yang yang feel dead chixia seem not pepy enough baizhi not worst scar not bad overall va not fun to listen to maybe that just en version
That's what I'm struggling with. I play games for the music, story, and character stories. WuWa has unfotunaly failed to hit me with any of those three. Someone made a really good point of how Genshin and Star Rail both throw you into the action then do info dumps. I really haven't gotten any connection to characters yet to ground me in the world. Storyline with Scar seem jarring going into from the 4 items puzzle. I liked the last part of the puzzle quest where you were in the library but everything seem pretty rush and jarring at times. Not enough time for build up for proper story.
Def think the endgame echo grind is gonna be really cursed. I also feel like the character and world design is very muted in colour. I don't know if thats just a artitistic taste diffrence but there are times everything just seems like shades of grey hard to distinguies between places.
Wuwa fans when Genshin does something nice: Yeah yew know this is cuz of us right 🤓
Wuwa fans when Wuwa does something nice: It is absolutely perplexing how those peasants think our marvelous game has anything to do with them 🧐
I'm just glad I finally got what I wanted from for Genshin Impact, which It never delivered and never will. Wuthering Waves is for not just ex-Genshin fans, but unlike Genshin, WuWa feels like a game that's made for Action RPG fans.
With losts of bugs, boring design
@@SaadBinAlamgir3345 every game had bugs at start even genshin
@@SaadBinAlamgir3345 name a big game without bugs on release in this decade and design is subjective
@@johnemad8336 There is a fine line between game with some bugs and unplayable
@@distritochristianangeloa.157Sound like a phone issue,i am having some lags here and there,but nothing that makes It unplayable
I’m a console player… WW isn’t even out for me, yet all these creators are pumping out content for it. Which, more power to them, but to me who can’t even play the game, it’s simply clogging up my feed 😅.
By the time the game releases on console all the creators would be gone by then which is the funniest thing
@@FliponYTlet’s hope that doesn’t happen
It's not even that easy to make a console port.
Hoyo wanted to make a NIntendo Switch port for Genshin but ended up discarding it for Playstation instead
honestly its funny seeing the chronically online fans of both games fight while one of my friends who isn’t chronically online and is usually busy, the first things he said within the first few minutes of playing WuWa was that it was a Genshin clone & he was trying to find something unique about the game that makes it different.
L friend
the only thing unique is that it is culturally heavy on chinese aspect
@schwarzwelt6803 i thought thats liyue
It’s not because your friend isn’t “chronically online” that he’s somehow right.
It’s giving Fortnite teen complaining about Apex for being a clone.
"...trying to find something unique about the game that makes it different..."
I don't know. Maybe the more mature narrative taking place in a post apocalyptic world? Not having a cute mascot repeat dialog as if you're a child? More mature enemy designs? Different combat system? Male characters that actually look like MEN? That's what I noticed within the first few minutes of playing.
srry i ended up yapping too (genshin/hi3/hsr player)
genshin also has like. very well thought out interconnected lore with an "end" that has been teased since release. even through "dead patches" it gives the community time to take in, talk about, and create works based on the updates and new lore. it takes up a slice of my life which i knew and was willing to give that time to it going into it... but im fatigued at this point! adding ANOTHER gacha to my roster of time sinking games just feels very unappealing. hsr is an easy game to play alongside genshin as well because of the interconnected lore + less daily game time, and while the same could be said with hi3, ive found its more draining on me daily. the new ui every chapter is also a little overwhelming, so i end up taking long breaks sometimes
Also, WuWa has high graphics ig, but i feel like that's just alienating a large number of people who don't have newer or higher end devices. idk. i could still play genshin for a long time on my fuckass ipad even when it was crashing every 5-10 minutes, but i can't even load WuWa's starting page after updating it.
The best thing to come out of this is that all the ppl that base their entire personality off of hating Genshin have all moved from hsr to wuwa so now the hsr community is like, chill.
"the 5 honkai impact players"
hey now. there's actually 6 of us
Make it 7
gonna yap real hard here but honestly i'm such an outlier in this convo bc i've never really experienced genshin burnout like at all since i started in late 1.5 like i genuinely love most everything about the game. sure i've got my complaints, but i actively play on two accounts and, on my main, i am one of those players who basically does everything there is to do and pulls for almost every character.
that being said, i'm really not looking for a cheap genshin knockoff in like any sense so i won't be playing wuwa, but my god. the community is such ass. genshin community isn't much better bc i don't really agree with a lot of opinions and people who don't play genshin anymore treat the game like it's their toxic ex so the reputation we have for being annoying weirdos is just sad to me. i also think that it's stupid to go into wuwa and only talk about genshin like wuwa really does have no identity of its own since it can only ever be tied to genshin. it's almost like we've been here before lol. not to even mention how buggy wuwa is. truly pathetic stuff. but yeah we'd have so much of a better time if people stopped thinking their experience with genshin is how all people feel about genshin. it also doesn't help that they're not funny by saying the same stock npc phrases all the time like it really doesn't do what they think it does.
anyway i can't wait for clorinde to come out i want her to kill me
I definitely agree it won’t “kill” Genshin. But you can’t deny WuWa is an amazing game so far and it’ll last a long time.
This is aging faster than milk 🎉
So true
and who cares if it wont? im just happy i get to play a new game
That’s valid this video was mostly just targeted towards the toxic Kuro fans
@@FliponYT Toxic Kuro Fans?
Genshin is THE most TOXIC community
constantly harassing, stalking, and sending death threats to VAs
you got MTRASHED and TECTRASHED built this toxicity
Kuro fans toxicity? Stop making up lies
enjoy your genshin slow motion exploration EXPERIENCE
you masochist BOI
@@ganyuthevideogamecharacter4296 i know, right? bros acting like genshin fandom is immaculate like the Virgin Mary.
Honestly, im much more looking forward to playing WuWa daily over Genshin and that speaks volumes about Genshin's mechanics
Genshin - Could - Never. Wuthering killed Genshin for me and that's all what matters.
why are people acting like the game is unplayable??? I dont get it, it works fine
PC skill issue. You do kinda need a good PC/phone for it
Genshin community is as blind as ever I see.. The recent tectone vid on WW v Genshin literally does a better job at explaining than this plus the rewards in Genshin and its various other problems still exist in the game wild.
I don’t I need to talk about genshins issues in a video explaining why Wuwa hasn’t and won’t live up to Genshin
@@FliponYT when you’re actively comparing the two you honestly should cause you’re basing your arguments off of bugs etc which literally existed at launch of Genshin.
@@FliponYT yes because glazers and delulu people will tell "genshin better"...and genshin would die within a week if not for covid
@@robbiesarkioglu5623lol. The copium in the weathering waves community is hilarious. Go back and watch early reviews of Genshin. Nobody was crying about optimisation or bugs. I just remember M tash literally crying in a video. Because he spent $7000. lol.
@@Phillipmurr are you sure it's not you genshin fans coping with ww living rent free in your heads
Whatever you say man i've been done with genshin im enjoying the hell out if wuthering waves though.
I feel you, but have you tried it? The combat is crazy lol
I would try it if I could but I can’t 😭
@@FliponYT theres no way you made this video without playing the game
@@John-forever I guess he's just out here trying to get clicks with that ragebait thumbnail -.-
Literally the only salvable thing in that game outside Scar
Enjoy your 4 pulls for your 4th anniversary 🎉
No brother its every 3 years they get that reward😂 it took them 3 years to get a total of 3 pulls next 3 years genshin will give them 6 pulls for 6 years
@@Violate.. oh yeah! My bad 💀
At least we are not sold off with rewards 😂😂😂
My venti came in 3 pulls so more to me than to the whines ig 😊
@@karalis5224 no no you got a point, ya'll prefer to be fed with scraps i get it. Sold off with rewards? It's called "compensation"
@@killerzombies96 and "compensation" sells people. But sure, you can complain and not work for anything, thats understandable. I just sit back with my 300+ pulls in genshin and watch the whiners who only value "compensation" in a game and nothing else since they want sht handed to them. Once a game steps into late development those rewards will be meaningless or not even accessible anymore.
While some of your points I 100% agree with, I can't help but notice you are almost looking forward to the downfall of WuWa. While I do agree that it won't be the genshin killer, it'll certainly take a decent chunk of the playerbase (similarly to me). This however doesn't mean we can't play both games as a Genshin player who has played since day 1, my only content is clearing the abyss and dailies which takes about 10 minutes a day and 20 minutes for the abyss.
The game is amazing especially for those who enjoy a more combat-focused game, though the launch has been HEAVILY rocky. I do believe that part of what will attract players to WuWa asides from "Oh new game, new gacha, hype" is the fact that Kuro has been known to be a very good company and one that listens to their players; This has been made evident by how fast they're fixing the issues and have compensated. Sure you can say that the issues shouldn'y have been there at launch but they didn't want that either but are actively and quickly taking action.
To be fair I would like to have a real competitor that pushes it and I think it would be better if Wuwa had a really good launch but I just think it’s ironic how hyped up this game was by the commercial to where Genshin was being antagonised just for this to happen.
Lol a lot of people are playing the game and genshin at the same time. Why are people making it seem like u can only have one or the other?
Genshin killer was always a bad take. Genshin fans didn't want another Genshin and those that didn't like Genshin did not want another Genshin.
Wuthering Waves is peak for someone like me that wanted a "Genshin for Gamers". But it's an illusion that there would ever be enough "gamers" to meet Genshin's audience status. It's also why Genshin will never reach Candy Crush numbers. It's just about the size of the market to which you appeal. People looking for challenging gameplay compared to people looking for beautiful art, suspenseful storytelling (mysterious), and completely anxiety free recreation are an EXTREME minority.
"Genshin for Gamers" will still be a success in the niche as it should be as long as it does not implode. Because Genshin was dead to me since 1.5 simply because I do not enjoy it. I did not need a killer, I needed an alternative more tuned to me as a consumer. And, yes, it's good that they copied Genshin and modified it for the people that wanted a different gameplay experience. It's the game equivalent of "Can I have the Double Cheeseburger but no mayo?" It doesn't always take much change to completely change an experience.
there's never gonna be a genshin killer just like there's never been a minecraft killer
mc already dead because it commited self-unalive lmao
These games will kill themselves nothing else can
Nah bruh, Hytale will KILL MINECRAFT, trust
Its like Call of Duty, The only thing that can kill it at this point is itself
Don’t understand the need for Game Wars. It’s good to have variety and maybe some pressure for the companies to develop the games further.
I still play GI in the back burner, after almost 4 years it’s more of a habit. Star rail is the one I’m excited for. The storytelling is so good.
Might give WuWa a go once they have the PlayStation version going.
If you ask me if who i am gonna pick between a company who treats us like a money generator and don't listening to customers for almost 4 years and a company who is so generous that I can't believe that is actually posible and just released 3 days ago. I mean my choice is obvious but hey you do you, I just want my game to atleast have some respect to its players.
You're emotionally unstable.
Awww yeah the prodigal son is back with some hot takes I couldn’t agree more with!
The problem with WuWa is not the game, it’s the million content creators and players glazing it and hyping it beyond reason because they are bitter at hoyoverse or because they hope this is their chance to grow as creators.
Playing a game as a form of rebound sex, I knew gacha gamers were messed up but this is ridiculous.
Imagine dating someone who is with you because you look kinda like their ex. Now that’s a red flag.
No disrespect to WuWa or anyone that plays it. While it doesn’t seem to be my cup of tea, I think it’s a very nice game.
Also where have you been flip? We have been suffering through clorinde beta changes for weeks! We’re down in the trenches here! We need your opinion on the upcoming sexy mamacita.
Rebound sex bro I’m dead😭
Also umm the reason is kinda embarrassing I’ll explain on stream if I can lol
honestly im glad the game exists solely for the genshin devs actually giving us stuff we want even if ill prob drop it
Very accurate remark good job.
With the amount of bugs and the very short period between release date announcement and the release I genuinely think Kuro rushed the game to come out during genshin's content drought. Because they either release now an unfinished product or they take time to fix the bugs and release during first patches of Natlan OR they wait out for another drought period. There's just no winning in this situation. Besides, 4.7 is pretty stacked for a dry patch. It has a new archon quest, a new game mode, 3 characters, 2 character quests, some minor QoL and a Furina rerun. I give WuWa another two weeks. Which is kinda a shame, I wanted genshin to have competition but at this point I don't think it's possible
2 months might be a bit too harsh I think until Natlan max and a month minimum
Aside from the Archon Quest, nothing to look forward to in 4.7. It’s a pretty dry patch (I don’t count characters as content because not everyone is going to get them). The QoL is non existent too. Best thing is the Resin cap increase, but that alone won’t do much in the long run.
My man genshin at the launch was even worse than wuwa so you're needlessly worrying
@@JosepiThe13thResin cap does literally nothing, it's only minimal improvement to people who don't play daily
@@JosepiThe13thgenshin count character content sadly but work so they not going to stop
4:31 Rewatching the video and I have to say that u were so right abt this. I've seen people being only slightly negative or even just pointing out issues they encountered without being mean in the slightest and u'll see wuwa glazers go:"Genshin had the same problem but worse, you never criticize Genshin", "hoyo shill" , "I don't have this problem so it is not a big deal/you made that up to ruin kuro" "skill issue/media illiterate" "fake".
I even saw someone making a post with all the problems they have with genshin to not be accused of being a hoyo shill. How can these people deepthroat a company this hard? It's like they are in a cult or something.
Genshit could never beat wuwa 🔊
5:17 true i saw some of the fans saying that the release of the new abyss, and the natlan teaser was because of WUWA release and i was like what?
Yeye and they moved furina for 2 patches just for wuwa....and dain for a patch stfu
Furina pushed 2patches and dain for 1 patch....ye shut up
I find it hilarious that people are claiming Genshin teased Natlan or increased the resin cap or any other announcement because of WuWa.
Like, do they really think Hoyo changed their content schedule just to accommodate WuWa? 😮💨
WuWa needs to be so much bigger for Hoyo to even think about paying attention to them.
People also think genshin somehow conjured their entire endgame mode out of thin air to counter wuwa like come on man😭
i mean genshin hasnt made any changes on such a large scale since launch, timing is just too right for it not to be influenced by wuwa
The Natlan stuff, no. They teased Fontaine in 3.7 as well. But the Resin increase? That’s way too much of a coincidence to not be because of WuWa, especially when, back in version 3 they told people they would never increase the resin cap again. Why now of all times, and not a big update like 5.0?
we all know that them increasing the resin cap didn't just coincidentally line up with the release of WuWa. It was so out of the blue and was something people have been complaining about for years. I refuse to believe that a multi billion dollar company with a large amount of employees decided to incorporate a highly requested change slower than my grandma could've done it on the release of another game that was supposedly going to be in direct competition with it. That shit lined up way too perfectly for my liking. I doubt them teasing Natlan has anything to do with WuWa though
@@brak2300 "large scale"...
*if* the resin cap was a response to WuWa, why is the resin increase only to 200 and not 240, like WuWa or HSR?
Why does energy in WuWa still generate faster than Genshin resin?
Genshin development is practically on auto pilot. Since it can afford to ignore it's direct player/fan base for years, it can afford to ignore the release of another competitor.
Probably just gonna stick to WW and HSR.
Real
I'm gonna just say fuck it and try balance all 3
@@bepo1702 your time going outside is already below 0 after doing this lmao
@@bepo1702i feel like if you play WuWa, genshin and hsr you have -10000 Aura
@@matoiryuko9444 I have obligations that take priority over video games, ones that require me to go outside. I said I would "try" to balance them for a reason lol. I am not terribly optimistic that I can make it work
Aight, time for a yapfest rant of mine:
I think another factor which people seem to overlook from my perspective are first impressions, WuWa in comparison to Genshin failed horribly at giving me a good first impression, perfomance issues, a horrible dub direction on the English version and one of the most sleeper yapfest introductions, I've had seen in recent time. Most notably the introduction of the story, Genshin doesnt have as much yapping on the beginning of the game (Mondstadt) but, WuWa just ten minutes into the game already starts trying to explain and cram as many terms as possible making it hard to keep up with, they want us to care about the world already when we just started playing the game and barely even met the characters that follow us where as Genshin fed us small bits of info to process it all at a good pace making it easier for people to care about the world building of the game and play long term, WuWa from a first impression standpoint only just soured my experience with the game and I'm already questioning if it's worth playing in the long run.
tldr; genshin unlike wuwa left off a good first impression which lead lots of people to want to play more.
anyways, this is all ill say on this brain damage yapfest of mine.
Yep like bro they even yapped explaining how the artifact systems work in the main quest...was that seriously needed? Imagine if Amber randomly started tapping explaining the in-story logic behind how artifacts work...
W yap session
Totally agree
Yes, I don't think lore enjoyer will like the story so far, yes there is not much story so far but, I remember when I first play Genshin it's feel magical. But good for the combat enjoyer, they have full skip story button, might as well just create button to skip the whole thing and just get the reward.
Yeah, Wuwa was not ready for release. The game's revenue is doing poorly in China and Japan, which is a bad sign for the long term health of the game. Kuro is already in a lot of debt to Tencent to make this game. Kuro is also struggling to fix up the game and haven't even released the beta for the 1.1 patch yet.
No money = weak future updates = players will get bored and leave
There was also a Japanese text error on the Jiyan weapon banner that made it look stronger than it actually was, which caused Japanese players to be furious and are flaming Kuro. There were players who were able to exploit and buy multiple of the $100 pack for $1 and as far as I know, I didn't hear anything about them being banned. There was a bug where music completely stopped playing. Marco Meatball said the music is weak. You can see text and localization errors everywhere in game. There's non-stop voice acting issues, on top of the story being underwhelming.
Kuro fired more than 100 freshmen before release, when they should have kept them to work on this game.
Things have changed now, haven't they?
Great video, summarized many of my thoughts about WuWa. I agree about the Pandemic Boost for Genshin, but I do feel like WuWa has a Genshin Boost as well, the specific genre wouldn’t be as popular as it is now without Genshin. So it’s a shame to see that WuWa at launch is basically a Genshin for people who hate Genshin, hopefully they get their updates out, but I feel bad for the devs who are working overtime because of poor planning
The visuals of a game are very important for me personally and I just don't like the look of WuWa.
I feel like the higher resolution and amount of details don't actually work in the games favor, because it ends up looking a bit rough and unpolished.
Also the colours aren't as vibrant as I would like. It's a bit bland and lifeless overall. Same goes for the character designs imo.
I think it's nice that there is more variety of body types and even face shapes between characters.
Out of all of them Jianxin is the only one I really liked though.
It’s like they just slapped a greyscale over the whole thing the colors are so muted
@@FliponYT to be fair... wuwa is a post apocalyptic setting so it makes sense its not as bright and cheerful as genshin... they probably did that deliberately because the game literally takes place after a huge disaster which is the main plot for the game.
@@arcanumelite4853 A pink skirt and a full sleeve blueish shirt with a reddish brown pair of sneakers are still pink, blueish and reddish brown even during world war. Just because you're in the desert doesn't mean you have to wear brown, orange-ish gray, washed out blacks to fit the "setting" you're in.
But enough about that, even if you change colors of what characters wear in wuwa or the world environment in it, it still won't look good because the design of these things are generic, mediocre at best. Everyone's wearing the same type of design slightly altered by over designed or under designed, and add bland colors to that, you have a masterpiece, not. English va line delivery, I fell asleep for 2 hours listening to them. What's happening in wuwa? Idk i just got yeeted to a world where I can walk and these 2 girls were yapping info after info and I still don't know why I'm here, what's happening.
Let's talk about endgame. What is it? Wuwa has endgame therefore it's better than Genshin? Ofc not. Remember, both Genshin and Wuwa are live service games, there is no endgame. Their lifespan will keep expanding as long there's players and more stories to stretch out or add so ya no, having endgame content don't mean jack.
What differentiates Genshin and others is that Genshin is inviting, has massive personality in both characters and world building, element reaction combat is fun and oh the music. Remember there is no real endgame in wuwa or hsr or whatever. You can keep believing that and still play your pale white dead game like wuwa, you'll realise in your 3rd year of playing and investment in wuwa that there was never an endgame in the first place. Good luck.
Gold and swarm are technically end game and they refer to as endgame is difficult content that test your character your spending time building and use them it useless to have perfect stat and everything dies in 5 second where hsr and wuwa have good endgame
From what ive seen so far better than genshin for sure even quote and quote new end game there hp is even less then spiral abyss from leak zajef video idk how that supposed to me hard
Lmfao. The monotone look in wuthering waves is literally what makes it look so amazing😂😂, but go ahead, keep on playing genshin, the game thats going to die just days after the story finishes😂😂😂@@denish-themenace
3:06 HSR kinda does have an “Archon” equivalent, that being Emanators, but no one really knows who or when an emanator is going to get released. HSR still does have the “Fatui Harbingers” type characters though, with the myriad factions and paths revealed in the data bank and the path introduction trailer.
Tectone and his audience are on suicide watch rn 😭
Said genshin player.....when was last time when you got any content?
@@ziebus904 you think a smaller studio is going to be able to release more content and Genshin. Get ready for a rude awakening , they’re going to spend the next 2 to 3 months fixing the game , so time will tell
@@Phillipmurr more content tham genshin is to release ANYTHING bitch you had no content since 1.0 in this game
The game just came out, so some bugs are kinda expected. The thing is that it's been so hyped up that people's expectations were already close to unmeetable to begin with. Now that it's out aside from the bugs I 've heard people complain about story, characters, voice acting and music as well. The only thing I hear people praise consistently is the combat. And when the bugs are fixed those complaints will remain. The thing that worries me the most is that they may listen too much at least from a story perspective, since I've heard they rewrote the story after beta testers complained. Rewriting the story based on people's complaints will not only start to be confusing, it'll be a lot of additional work when they want to have regular upates and keep it consistent, so I hope for them this was just a one time thing.
its funny watching this video rn when wuthering waves already surpass genshin in revenue
It didn’t lol
@@FliponYTcry more hoyo shill
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All wuwa has is the cope article made by Gamelook which is owned by tencent and hasn't talked about any other gacha game besides glazing wuwa btw lmfao!
Even if we grant wuwa that 110m, arle banner made WuWa's whole bag in 2 weeks on iOS only compared to wuwa's high balled all platforms revenue lol. Wuwa has never been and will never be close.
@@FliponYT Yinlin banner did pretty well i believe not sure wht you meant considering it reached the top sales in JP
@@killerzombies96 No it didn't lol 😂🎈
Yup, I agree with most of the points. The only thing I disagree with the identity part.
It will have one eventually like Genshin "BOTW clone" allegations back in the day.
Anyway, Genshin is the new WOW.
Nothing can truly Kill it but itself.
It will end if HY decided that the Teyvat Chapter is the last chapter for the game which is about 3 acts left.
As for WW, I expected them to be Genshin Rival and never the killer.
It remains to be seen if they will be able to bounce back from disaster of a launch or fall as bad as TOF.
I do believe on Kuro Games potential with this title though.
Wdym it already failed?💀💀 This game didn’t fail at all. Just bc a Game Doesnt do as good a genshin doesn’t mean that the game is bad or failed 💀💀
my attention to keep on watching and getting worried on wuwa is slowly disappearing. when I got to act 6 i got all i want and even better.
for me it gave what i needed when i kept on being disappointed in genshin.
the last time i remembered someone dying that i was moved in genshin was that npc on inazuma. but in dragonspine and inazuma, people doesn't seem to like it. i expected natlan to be something like inazuma but it's spyro.
meanwhile in act 4 of wuwa, people are trading their loved ones life for their gains but it wasn't shown and still poorly written.
in act 6 we get heroic npcs died to protect something important for the city.
genshin story has way better story telling and everything except i play gacha to see people die and see the characters suffering and bear the flag left by other people hence they become the important characters that the world needs.
if they don't do it like this in future chapters. i might not quit but i'll stop spending on the game.
Imo the biggest reason that WuWa is going to struggle is because of just how long Genshin has been out. There has never really been such a staple gacha game like Genshin. WuWa has to not only draw people in, but essentially convince people to give up the Genshin Accounts they’ve worked on for years at this point. I’ve spent hundreds of dollars on Genshin, that alone makes me hesitant to dedicate too much time into another direct focus gacha.
Yes y’all I understand you can play both but I definitely won’t spend money on both or dedicate the same amount of time to each. Thats the issue WuWa is facing.
Yeah exactly, there's no way I'm gonna quit a game i played for years, got invested in the story, raised characters etc for a new game that doesn't seem to have better graphics or story
Sunk-cost fallacy is strong. I'm in similar situation as ive spent a bit on Genshin too....but yolo I'm gonna play ww. Genshin is just greedy af
@@ssarellasGenshin is wayyyy worse than wuthering waves. Just play wuthering waves and star rail.
@@CuriousKippz I don't think it is, I enjoy it
@@ssarellas Genshins 1.0 story was trash, the gameplay is so mind-numbingly easy, you could play it efficiently while literally falling asleep. Genshins story up until late sumeru was hot garbage, in inazume it picked up slightly but then fell off right after the signora fight. Meanwhile, wuthering waves has better exploration, launch characters, better 1.0 story, more fluid and rewarding gameplay, and its content actually needs to be played.
bro the genshin bias goes crazy.
first off saying WUWA is a copy of genshin impact is kinda slack because one, WUWA is more combat based and two there is a replayable system through echoes and more endgame. Additionally, there is a complete different element system or lack there of and on top of that the exploration system is actually more seamless and enjoyable due to the moment.
So to conclude no WUWA is not copy of genshin. It just does what genshin can do but better.
To top it off, the fact that you mentioned the WUWA community attacking VAs but fail to realise how often the genshin community does it is crazy.
So yeah keep collecting mint buddy
Wuwa criticism = mint picker 😂 I thought toxic positivity was only a genshin thing
@@simonditomasso9868 never said that wuwa critism is bad lil bro, just said it should be seen as an inspiration rather than an all out copy and even then it’s still a better game lmao
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Without any biases,
WUWA story sucks ass at the start and I could not bare it.
The fighting is fun but its only thing that is charming to me.
The development of character is barely existing and feels like each character just exists as a 'code' rather than a character.
genshin trash copy from Zelda
For all of you wondering whats up with my mic I got a new one (I broke my old one) and I like was speaking into the plastic and not the mic itself… it will sound better in future video’s don’t worry
how is that even posible
Broken mic L
4:32 " Has the worst fangames of any gacha games "
Genshin : VA harrasment, 1 star reviewbombing, Meta vs Causual mentality, F2P vs Spender mentality, Toxic Positivity...
Flip : I SLEEP
It's a joke, don't take seriously 😂
Genshin - 3 pulls for 3 years.
WuWa - 3 5*s in 3 days.
Genshin was also playable on release
@@FliponYT hey lets be real here 99% games at launch have problems, i am already thankfull i dont need to wait 10+ hours in line just to get in the game like with nw (new world) and i know that most people only ever played genshin so they dont know but again most games (i think all the games i played at launch had some problems) have bugs, servers die, problems with optimisation etc, but i hope the optimisation will be better, bcs rn its lagy and the game has micro freeze's but it only matter of time when they fix this, also i hope people can just enjoy both games and not have a war...
@@FliponYTi got stuck with mona and i got infinite loading loop they only fix it after 4 day but they never mention it but sure bro
@@FliponYTfor a majority of players is playable, I haven't had any problems aside from cut text. Ur biased af
@FliponYT i thought you are actually a reasonable person at first but after hearing some of your responses it made me think otherwise
most ppl in the community are hell bent on comparing wuwa to jenshin, a game releasing a week ago to a game releasing 4 years ago, but they fail to realise that every game has strengths and weaknesses(not every games, if you know, you know) jenshin has better story(now) and wuwa has better combat
yes jenshin story wasn't much in 1.0 but it got better, while I don't have much hope from wuwa story, as someone who has played kuro's other game, Punishing Gray Raven, i am atill coping for that to happen in wuwa as well
You were almost making a point but then the bias got to you.
True
Tectone is watching you
Its not just Genshin they were scared of, they were clearly terrified of ZZZ in a month so they rushed this out the door before it was ready. Elden Ring, then ZZZ, then Natlan, guess they felt they had to do it now or wait til Winter, shoulda waited. Now they've screwed themselves and the game is almost as buggy as Tower of Fantasy at launch. Grim situation to be in.
Lol pmuch, it was either drop it now and rush optimizations before natlan or wait till december.
And even then theres still danger cuz thats when SR starts hyping up the next planet & other competitors like Pmugen might drop beta info
Feeling bold here Flip.
Yes
@@FliponYT Very spot-on on the community, people really bring out their worst when Genshin does something and think it's a reaction from WuWa when in fact, if that's the case then it even makes Genshin better as a whole. And these clownsters tryna clown change just coz it gave them happiness for a while from them asking, begging but ended up hating just coz they couldn't get their crack from MiHoYo.
Wuthering Waves could never compete with the amount of R34 that Genshin Impact has. 💀
The real reason genshin stayed relevant 🔥
For any game to surpass a Behemoth toping the charts, it's only possible if that Behemoth fails its audience massively. We don't want that to happen to any of those games. We want each of them to inspire us and get new ideas to surprise us.
The only time I recall something like what you describe happened was on Dehya's release, but oh so coincidentally that patch was pretty much at the same time of Starrail's launch. ZZZ release will probably be the same.
Also sidenote but zzz is honestly my reaction when I see other hoyo games lmfao
Maybe it's not the genshin or hsr or wuwa communities that are bad and toxic, maybe it's all the gacha players who find anime girls more attractive than real ones
Maybe gacha games are a natural breeding ground for incels
Keep cooking brother.
gacha games have always been notorious for being breeding grounds for incels. They design the characters specifically to cater to that demographic. I'm fairly certain the genshin devs have gone on record saying that their game is designed for people who don't talk to real men/women 😂
@@bepo1702hoyos motto was like games for otakus made by otakus wasnt it?
@@brochiing4295 tech otakus save the world was their motto if i'm not mistaken
They are indeed
I'm waiting for it to come to console before I download it and give it a chance.
Maybe by then, the technical issues will have been sorted out, the story telling and VA work will be improved and, more importantly, the community will have cooled down a bit with the constant "Versus Genshin" mentality.
Sanhua and Jiyan look boss tho.
Ohh another Free content for bald man
Lmao Genshin had more content on launch you say? After 4 years, it still has less actual content than WuWa does on launch.
Have you played the game though?
Apart from yinlin, nothing tempts me from installing wuwa. Also, we aussies will not have a fun time in 300ms in wuwa so forget about it. But the game looks gorgeous(albeit unoriginal) and mechanics seems cool ngl. I hope wuwa players enjoy the game.
I will say that ping isnt as big an issue since a lot of things happen client side like the combat. Thats also why that yinlin bug exists since the store trial thing also is client side so setting ur date like a month gave you access to her.
personally, i've played wuthering waves for quite a bit & have made some vids on it, i got into it since thundah was excited for it & that got me interested. i like the game its got good visuals/combat but i still like genshin impact more
my main prob with wuwa is the worldbuilding is pretty bad. like the story sucks... the combat is good but i'm not sure how i'll feel about the game in 1-2 weeks. my current review is that i think its cool & i like the combat but i might become more critical of it once i'm out of the honeymoon/early phase
the devs are fairly generous tho C: outside of that, if the daily grind bores me i might drop it once the hype phase is over. as of now, might as well enjoy covering it while it lasts
good video man!
+ tbh once natlan comes its joever
@@juice3287 true, can't wait for it!
@@nutterdunutsthe little green dinosaur thing looks super cute man
i am playing wuwa but i know i am not quiting genshin fucking since launch till not almost everyday i logged in, yeah it aint going anywhere
i prefer wuwa over genshin. hoyo devs are honestly horrible for not listening to players. ive stopped playing genshin and stopped watching genshin content because i want gacha games to die
I respect the hating
It’s really just Genshin 😭 they listen to every criticism in both Honkai games it feels like
Ok.. Good for you then
Genuine question, but would you really refer to what’s going on with WuWa as listening to players? Personally, I think there’s a big difference between receiving feedback from surveys and updating the game, to immediately kneeling over to immense hatred received from having a very rough launch and doing everything possible to keep player retention while they make their needed changes. Now the WuWa devs are working overtime and hiring new writers, it’s a bad first impression from poor planning and time management. I respect their efforts, but they really should’ve delayed the launch
@@Sishpoothey are forced to launch this early. 1. Genshin 4.7 2.honkai star rail 2.3 with firefly 3. Zzz is coming in july.
Does wuwa actually require higher performance than genshin cuz my mobile is able to run genshin without a hitch but wuwa not only lags my device but also heats. Lagging in combat which is a lot more interactive just makes me mad.
Yes, because Wuwa use Unreal Engine 4 while genshin use Unity. In short, most UE4 games are required very high spec to play the game smoothly. Most AAA nowadays use it as well. So clearly, these games are only targeted for certain demographic
@@raydoria4326 dang it man
WUWA's minimum requirement for mobile is SD 835. That means your mobile should be able to play Genshin at the highest settings comfortably to be able to meet WUWA's minimum requirement.
WuWa wont kill Genshin for one reason. There are to many freaks in this world who would always love Genshin
One thing you didn’t mention is the ps4/ps5 release. WuWa, has no direct release, much like ToF, for ps4/5, which hsr didnt do either. Genshins release for all systems definitely helped it out massively and is another big factor for its popularity, compared to other gachas