I think you are 20 years too late. However Just Blaze and Alc just showed Burrough signature in their beat. It's an aspect not many people look for. Makes me wish Pit Bull hadn't ripped off Nina Sky because I miss their stylistic singing.
I dont know how many HOURS I played Hold You Down in my life. Still in my rotation. Definately one of my fav songs of all time. And Alchemist the number 1 untouchable producer of all time.
That Just Blaze beat is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 but that Alchemist/ Mobb Deep “Hold you Stand” is a hip hop Classic! That beat is crazy… it’s funny how this video showed up on my feed from just thinking about that Mobb Deep Classic
I noticed Just Blaze has more of a sound engineer/ live musician approach to production, hence his surgical decisions (filtering, layering, grandiose arrangements, additional composition, etc.) . Alchemist approaches it more like a DJ/Turntablist. He is more of a scavenger who cooks from scratch with whatever is left in the fridge, but it always ends up tasting good. 2 philosophies, 2 legends. Navie, you're killing it you tender boy!!!
explain surgical in reference to a very simple use of it? This whole beat was made with chops from drums to the entire beat using 7 to 8 pads. No swing or bounce, The drum samples are pure trash, the fashionable clap that was so present at the time and a wood kick that sounds like it came from an SR 17. I would choose Ready Rock Cees beat box over this beat.
@@Beatxtract I respect your opinion but my comment stands. At the time these tracks were produced, there were way more limitations than what we have today. I am from that era of beat making, Ableton, Fruity Loops was not even heard of. Just can play the drums and DJ. He broke down the sample and layered at a much more advanced level.
@@alfredschnozzenstein1657 It's crazy that Just Blaze is so underrated nowadays, I guess the landscape changed but if you were around the Dipset, Rocafella era, him and Kanye were untouched!
Just Blaze doesn't get enough props for how dope he was at an early age. His sampling has always been next level. I love what the Alchemist did but Just wins it for me. He's different (see Usher's "Throwback").
I agree, but to me they make totally different music . If I want to hear alchemist style, I don’t want to hear just blazes.. and vice versa. It’s really apples and oranges with these guys for me.
@@justenrobinson433 the styles are definitely different however, they both make authentic HIP HOP music. For me they sit in the same playlist with a variety of artist and producer in the same vein. Salute!
@@nonfictiongaming1233 dude I'm 51 going on 52. I have been listening to hip hop since the Sugar Hill Gang, that's my opinion. You being thrown off by it is illogical at best.
I prefer JB's but liked both. JB's version I think satisfies the nerd and feel to me. At the time I remember the Alchemist version not sitting right with me 'cause I knew it didn't say "Down". Felt more sloppy and repetitive too
I like Al’s better not only cuz it just sounds better but also because of his sample manipulation. Definitely appreciate what Just did as a producer myself tho, it’s genius thinking.
In 2010/2011 I actually saw The Alchemist and Just Blaze battle in London! It was an epic af juxtaposition of ALC’s grimy era style and Just Blaze’s club bangers and radio hits 🔥
Just Blaze is a scientist. Old or new not too many producers can flip samples like him. They all may end up with a dope song but when you break down what each producer actually did, he's smoking em lol
@@juniorhunter7268 I disagree with the reasoning here, the Alchemist beat might be simpler in technique but it makes for a more messy chaotic sounding beat. The Blaze beat sounds cleaner but at the same time is more complicated to achieve. If you like it 'cause you just like it say that, but "simple," what do you mean by that?
Just Blaze got it. From a producer’s perspective, his is more creative. From an artist’s perspective, his makes for a better song. Al’s is sonically cool, but it’s very simplistic. I’ll rate your beat over Al’s. That bass is an instant banger. Some of the elements you used is nice too. A sight tweek and it’s ready for a nomination.
@@samylemzaoui2298 I guess the moment you assumed it was. Gotta live outside your chest. The beat served its purpose. It was a quick hit. It was all done intentionally.
Yet Hold You Down is widely regarded as a classic meanwhile Jay didn’t even make Just Blaze’s flip a single. Simplicity won in this case also Alchemist’s beat hits you right in the gut. Pulls on your heart strings. The emotion is potent in the Al’s flip. To each his own but this is a wild take from you in my opinion lol.
@VernissageRecs the just blaze flip is way more emotional it even inspired jay to go in deep and get personal which he rarely does with his verses...it might not of been a single but it's still a classic album cut not everything has to be a single
Great video man! That's one of my favorite Alchemist x Prodigy songs, tbh Just Blaze did it in a cool way. But I'm bias, I heard the Alchemist one first like 12 years ago right when I got my first car and threw 2 12's in the trunk.. that song got a lot of play!
your is my favourite. i was skeptical when you mention harp, but the way you played and mixed it made it almost indistinguishable from the sample, like the harp was warped and haunted lol. Well done!
It was a known thing at the time that rocafellas producers were being told to keep up with ALs beats because their opponents at the time mobb deep, Nas, jadakiss, styles P, were killing them on his beats on mixtape freestyles and unreleased joints.
Long time lurker first time commenter....lol. In all seriousness though, I really enjoy your breakdown videos but I think you've hit upon something with this theme. I feel like this is not only a great plug for your plugin, but it also inspires me to take a crack at this sample too. I like flipping samples that have been used in different songs in different ways than what has already been done to try something outside of the realms of expectation - that's a skill in itself. Succinctly, MORE PLEASE! good work sir.
Damn. Your sh!t is crazy 🔥for real. As far as Blaze vs. Alc, I always felt Blaze's version more but Alchemist gets props too for freakin it his way. Back to your creation, that shit sounds dope as is and I can hear it spead up also some. Nice work.
I love how you broke this down between the Just Blaze and Alchemist Versions, But I Especially loved that you went even further and did your own version! Was not expecting but Love this! Pls keep making content like this!
Alchemist all day, P, all day, and incorporating the sample into the verse made a basic twist absolutely genius because he actually did it without trying to hard
Alchemist got this easily, piecing Hold you down together like that was brilliant and made the perfect template to rap over, Prodigy showed that soon as he heard it
As an older beat maker, its really insane I keep hearing younger guys saying things Just Blaze does is advanced or not seen very often. I am almost feeling like the original art of sampling is somehow getting lost. The reason I say this is because this was the only way for us ti make beats, especially after the late 80s. First of all, everyone has found all the dope samples. You had to really flip the samples not only in chops but also using EQs and filters. Secondly, it was one of the few ways to avoid sample licensing Thirdly, we were very limited with our tools. Usually things like SP1200, MPC 3000, 2000 xl etc. We really had to use the samples as instruments somehow. Last but not least, there was a sense of competition even for producers and DJs. If someone flipped a sample, you wanted to do it even better. This was just really common in Hip Hop period. I don’t really think this really is much of a thing anymore (nor do I feel is really needed in today’s atmosphere). Its nice to see youtubers like you analyzing hold beats and hip hop history!
All 3 beats going hard, the JUST BLAZE break down blew me away and made me really think about chops. ALCHEMIST style is very interesting and made me want to rap! That pitched up style is DOPE! I'D like to hear the finished version of your beat, was SICK !
@@user-v7y This is Factual! I think OP is saying, Blaze flipped it so much it shouldn't had triggered the Copyrights. But he did use the Piano Melody and its Very Distinctive. Now if he didn't use that bit at end of the loop, then Yes it could of went incognito with it
I love the Alchemist beat, but Just Blaze just did so much with it! but we all have to agree that Navie's one is the best! (just agree with me, he is a tender little boy)
You did an awesome job analysing these two beats production processes! I'm impressed with your understanding of the thechniques that both ALC and Blaze used to produce each one's version of this sample usage. I love them both, but slightly prefer the "Hold You Down". Your beat is nice, but if I'd hear it somwhere without the knowledge of the used sample, there's no way I could discover the source, while the two beats you've compared here can be easily linked with the origin, but I don't think that was your goal through the production process. Great job!
You really grabed my attention and, nerded out on me real quick with the Super Deep Dive and educated my ear science to speak your language. I'm Thoroughly impressed with your 0-to-60 bonus beat! Klick your heels 3 times Mr Dorothy! Nice..
Both are legendary, but AL's version was a hood classic! As a kid, I heard AL's version everywhere, while I only really heard Just Blaze's version on Jay's album.
I already know all of this. Same time, I'm so happy and proud that you know this too. This is a music thing. Only those that know, actually understand. Much luv.
As a rap/music nerd, I got excited by the thumbnail. The video outdid my expectations. Basically, I’m saying that I subscribed. Gonna watch the video on Kanye’s production decline next 🔥
Just Blazes addition of intruments and sample layers sets his beats apart and his goto drum fills is like a trademark. He said his beats used to struggle with highend layering & he tends to play an organ over his samples i noticed
the most important thing to remember is that the simpler the sample processing and the less saturated the music with instrument tracks, the brighter and clearer it sounds. Leaving space for the performer!
Your videos keep better and better. It is amazing. I am a seasoned producer and i am very secretive on my weird techniques lol. This is amazing. Keep up the good work Now: both samples were done correctly to paint the correct pictures for the Song and artist. You can feel what JayZ was saying and what he was trying to do and then on the other side, Prodigy paints the hard pic of what the beat puts out if that makes sense. What you did was amazing as well.
Thanks for pointing this out. Imho the difference between a producer and a beatmaker is psychological. The producer makes decisions based on what actually serves the concept/story/song/album. Everything is created around that intention.
that beat wasnt bad dude, i like how you break down thse beats from legendary producers and promote the plugin at the same time,, very sneaky i like, i wont tell anyone about the built in one thats .. i forgot what i was talking about. peace
You talk about all these great producers in your videos, but to me you up there with the best of them. Just another era… but later the real ones will name you with all the legends for sure
"Hold You Down" is one of my favorite Alchemist songs of all time! It would be hard to top it, but very interesting to see the sample used a different way by Just Blaze. Both did a great job. 🐐🔥Hey, your beat was great, too, NavieD!!! 😀
I love Just Blaze’s body of work, but Alchemist got this one! Also, your beat was 🔥🔥🔥 Reminded a little of Biggie’s “Dead Wrong”. Maybe it was the snare you used that made me think of it. Also, was that a plugin you used for the harp? If so, can you share which one it is?
I noticed Just Blaze has more of a sound engineer/ live musician approach to production, hence his surgical decisions (filtering, layering, grandiose arrangements, additional composition, etc.) . Alchemist approaches it more like a DJ/Turntablist. He is more of a scavenger who cooks from scratch with whatever is left in the fridge, but it always ends up tasting good. 2 philosophies, 2 legends.
It’s almost like The Alchemist heard Just Blaze’s song, stripped it down and flipped it to make some thing smooth as silk. Sometimes it’s okay to be a fan and be inspired. Lol. Both are legends for a reason and serve 2 VERY different purposes in their music. The Alchemist is what you play when you’re planning your heist, Just Blaze is what you play during your escape! 😉 Lol. Thanks for posting. This was amazing.
I really like your version. I like the harp and the way the 808 goes with the sample. Also happy you didn’t go the trap route and stayed boom bap. Also “I’m a tender little boy” made me laugh
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Does it spit out MIDI files?
I think you are 20 years too late. However Just Blaze and Alc just showed Burrough signature in their beat. It's an aspect not many people look for. Makes me wish Pit Bull hadn't ripped off Nina Sky because I miss their stylistic singing.
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We need a just blaze producer breakdown
Your beat sucks. Aqua Stone Throne. 😂
Hold You Down is one of my favourite songs and beats of all time
Well now we know it's hold you stand
Agreed. The track just rocks, easy no pressure just riding music
Mine too
I dont know how many HOURS I played Hold You Down in my life. Still in my rotation. Definately one of my fav songs of all time. And Alchemist the number 1 untouchable producer of all time.
That Just Blaze beat is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 but that Alchemist/ Mobb Deep “Hold you Stand” is a hip hop Classic! That beat is crazy…
it’s funny how this video showed up on my feed from just thinking about that Mobb Deep Classic
I noticed Just Blaze has more of a sound engineer/ live musician approach to production, hence his surgical decisions (filtering, layering, grandiose arrangements, additional composition, etc.) .
Alchemist approaches it more like a DJ/Turntablist. He is more of a scavenger who cooks from scratch with whatever is left in the fridge, but it always ends up tasting good.
2 philosophies, 2 legends.
Navie, you're killing it you tender boy!!!
Excellent
Perfect explanation
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Alchemist kept it simple and Just went surgical. Both legends in the game and respect them both equally.
Maybe just blaze for me a little more
explain surgical in reference to a very simple use of it? This whole beat was made with chops from drums to the entire beat using 7 to 8 pads. No swing or bounce, The drum samples are pure trash, the fashionable clap that was so present at the time and a wood kick that sounds like it came from an SR 17. I would choose Ready Rock Cees beat box over this beat.
@@Beatxtract I respect your opinion but my comment stands. At the time these tracks were produced, there were way more limitations than what we have today. I am from that era of beat making, Ableton, Fruity Loops was not even heard of. Just can play the drums and DJ. He broke down the sample and layered at a much more advanced level.
Alc is a beast
Just Blaze, “Soon You’ll Understand” is one of my favorite Jay songs.
Tis a classic for sure
Have you heard the beat he made “I love my b*tches” for Rick Ross? That beat is tough 😡
And the drums were crazy
@@alfredschnozzenstein1657 It's crazy that Just Blaze is so underrated nowadays, I guess the landscape changed but if you were around the Dipset, Rocafella era, him and Kanye were untouched!
Blaze and jay did a better job best song on album
Just Blaze doesn't get enough props for how dope he was at an early age. His sampling has always been next level. I love what the Alchemist did but Just wins it for me. He's different (see Usher's "Throwback").
Totally agree
I agree, but to me they make totally different music . If I want to hear alchemist style, I don’t want to hear just blazes.. and vice versa. It’s really apples and oranges with these guys for me.
@@justenrobinson433 the styles are definitely different however, they both make authentic HIP HOP music. For me they sit in the same playlist with a variety of artist and producer in the same vein. Salute!
This throwing me off. Just Blaze doesn’t get enough props? Maybe I’m old. He’s responsible for so many classics. Undisputed classics.
@@nonfictiongaming1233 dude I'm 51 going on 52. I have been listening to hip hop since the Sugar Hill Gang, that's my opinion. You being thrown off by it is illogical at best.
Bro, you’re absolutely killing it. Not one beatmaking youtuber has ever been so consistently focused on spicing the formula. Kudos!
I've always been a fan of the Just Blaze version but honestly, yours is fire seeing how you flipped it
Thank you Tebo!
@@NavieD Your beats was great, but it still felt like it took up a lot of space
I like what Just Blaze did more from a nerdy perspective but I actually much prefer the Alchemists beat.
That is my feeling on it too
Yea what JB did is very impressive, but sometimes ‘simple’ is better. It became lowkey Al’s most iconic track😅
I like both. It fit both artists well...
I prefer JB's but liked both. JB's version I think satisfies the nerd and feel to me. At the time I remember the Alchemist version not sitting right with me 'cause I knew it didn't say "Down". Felt more sloppy and repetitive too
I like Al’s better not only cuz it just sounds better but also because of his sample manipulation. Definitely appreciate what Just did as a producer myself tho, it’s genius thinking.
In 2010/2011 I actually saw The Alchemist and Just Blaze battle in London! It was an epic af juxtaposition of ALC’s grimy era style and Just Blaze’s club bangers and radio hits 🔥
Prefere the Just Blaze beat, surprising how clean he got it with all the layers, chopping and EQ. Definitely Genius!
I love the just blaze version… bro is a mastermind
Alchemist plus the Mobb Deep vocals pure classic material
love this format, I hope you'll do more of it. the way you chopped up the vocals feels really clams casino-ish, love this style of sampling
Love these types of videos, keep 'em coming!
I had fun making this one. Got a whole google doc of ideas for this series (if it does well)
Just Blaze is a scientist. Old or new not too many producers can flip samples like him. They all may end up with a dope song but when you break down what each producer actually did, he's smoking em lol
this could be a series, there are many songs like this, for example one step ahead or eazy duz it to name the most famous ones
I love these videos that go into depth with samples always been my favorite to watch.
We need More just Blaze sample technique videos he gets crazy with it Alchemist had the better beat over all kept it simple 🔥
2 classic tracks from legendary producers featuring legendary artists.
4:50 Alchemist
8:42 Just Blaze
12:28 His beat
U the man
Honestly I really love your beat, very atmospheric
I prefer Alchemist's version
Any particular reason why?
Simple is better
@@juniorhunter7268 I disagree with the reasoning here, the Alchemist beat might be simpler in technique but it makes for a more messy chaotic sounding beat. The Blaze beat sounds cleaner but at the same time is more complicated to achieve. If you like it 'cause you just like it say that, but "simple," what do you mean by that?
Yaga!
@@NavieD I just like it.
Just Blaze got it. From a producer’s perspective, his is more creative. From an artist’s perspective, his makes for a better song. Al’s is sonically cool, but it’s very simplistic. I’ll rate your beat over Al’s. That bass is an instant banger. Some of the elements you used is nice too. A sight tweek and it’s ready for a nomination.
since when did simplistic become a bad thing ? especially in beatmaking you cant make that shit too simple
@@samylemzaoui2298 I guess the moment you assumed it was. Gotta live outside your chest. The beat served its purpose. It was a quick hit. It was all done intentionally.
Yet Hold You Down is widely regarded as a classic meanwhile Jay didn’t even make Just Blaze’s flip a single. Simplicity won in this case also Alchemist’s beat hits you right in the gut. Pulls on your heart strings. The emotion is potent in the Al’s flip. To each his own but this is a wild take from you in my opinion lol.
Agreed Just Blazes engineers his beats flawlessly. "Control" & "Exhibit C" come to mind but Alchemist nice too
@VernissageRecs the just blaze flip is way more emotional it even inspired jay to go in deep and get personal which he rarely does with his verses...it might not of been a single but it's still a classic album cut not everything has to be a single
Great video man! That's one of my favorite Alchemist x Prodigy songs, tbh Just Blaze did it in a cool way. But I'm bias, I heard the Alchemist one first like 12 years ago right when I got my first car and threw 2 12's in the trunk.. that song got a lot of play!
I love this. You should do much more of these sample VS segments.
Just Blaze is crazy with it 🔥.
I agree. I didn't fully appreciate how complex his beat was
@@NavieD One additional thing is I think Just Blaze is automating a filter on the "middle" layer for the rising choir on the turn around.
your is my favourite. i was skeptical when you mention harp, but the way you played and mixed it made it almost indistinguishable from the sample, like the harp was warped and haunted lol. Well done!
Alchemist beat was just groovy 😲🔥
This is the art of sampling. The sample never sounds the same 🎯💯
It was a known thing at the time that rocafellas producers were being told to keep up with ALs beats because their opponents at the time mobb deep, Nas, jadakiss, styles P, were killing them on his beats on mixtape freestyles and unreleased joints.
They achieved it and more there is nobody going to mess with Kanye West and just blaze collectively
Keep these comparisons coming. Great breakdown
imagine jay-z acapella of you'll understand it on alchemist's beat 😬
Jay doesn’t deserve Alchemist
Jay Electronica disagrees
@@daveyfgnother way around
Picking Alchemist version. I was blessed to see Mobb Deep & Alchemist premiere at Rock the Bells, out here in CA, many years ago. Sentimental value...
Alchemist's beat is classic and Just Blaze's is hot...... love the moodiness of your beat as well...
Long time lurker first time commenter....lol. In all seriousness though, I really enjoy your breakdown videos but I think you've hit upon something with this theme. I feel like this is not only a great plug for your plugin, but it also inspires me to take a crack at this sample too. I like flipping samples that have been used in different songs in different ways than what has already been done to try something outside of the realms of expectation - that's a skill in itself. Succinctly, MORE PLEASE! good work sir.
Both tracks were done with surgical precision.. but Alch has that bop you just can help to love
Navie you definitely came with A different vibe with the sample its self and the baseline. 😎🔥
That beat you made was CUH-RAAAZY!!
Both versions are head rockers... Your version Real Talk sick ...loved it
I like Just Blaze version more. He's one of my favs of all time too
He gets busy and adds instrumentation added to his stuff.
@@jjbing3 yeah especially by him being a drummer
Damn. Your sh!t is crazy 🔥for real. As far as Blaze vs. Alc, I always felt Blaze's version more but Alchemist gets props too for freakin it his way. Back to your creation, that shit sounds dope as is and I can hear it spead up also some. Nice work.
Your beat is knocking.
I love how you broke this down between the Just Blaze and Alchemist Versions, But I Especially loved that you went even further and did your own version! Was not expecting but Love this! Pls keep making content like this!
Just Blaze also used the same sample for Prodigy's Diamond song from his first HNIC album. He flipped it differently.
Alchemist all day, P, all day, and incorporating the sample into the verse made a basic twist absolutely genius because he actually did it without trying to hard
Alchemist got this easily, piecing Hold you down together like that was brilliant and made the perfect template to rap over, Prodigy showed that soon as he heard it
As an older beat maker, its really insane I keep hearing younger guys saying things Just Blaze does is advanced or not seen very often.
I am almost feeling like the original art of sampling is somehow getting lost.
The reason I say this is because this was the only way for us ti make beats, especially after the late 80s.
First of all, everyone has found all the dope samples. You had to really flip the samples not only in chops but also using EQs and filters.
Secondly, it was one of the few ways to avoid sample licensing
Thirdly, we were very limited with our tools. Usually things like SP1200, MPC 3000, 2000 xl etc. We really had to use the samples as instruments somehow.
Last but not least, there was a sense of competition even for producers and DJs. If someone flipped a sample, you wanted to do it even better. This was just really common in Hip Hop period. I don’t really think this really is much of a thing anymore (nor do I feel is really needed in today’s atmosphere).
Its nice to see youtubers like you analyzing hold beats and hip hop history!
Have to say Just Blaze! 🔥 I was waiting for a video with just blaze
Same here
All 3 beats going hard, the JUST BLAZE break down blew me away and made me really think about chops. ALCHEMIST style is very interesting and made me want to rap! That pitched up style is DOPE! I'D like to hear the finished version of your beat, was SICK !
It's crazy that Just Blaze had to pay to Sample that, since he flipped it in such a creative way
Not how it works
Facts bro! That is way to creative. That was a piece of art 💯
He used both the melody AND the master recording , if that’s not grounds for having to clear a sample I’m not sure what is
@@user-v7y This is Factual! I think OP is saying, Blaze flipped it so much it shouldn't had triggered the Copyrights. But he did use the Piano Melody and its Very Distinctive. Now if he didn't use that bit at end of the loop, then Yes it could of went incognito with it
@@raimondnu3doesn't matter what he did to it. He used it. Makes no sense to say crazy he had to still pay....
Bro I never realized hold you down and soon you'll understand was the same sample track. This was really entertaining 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Alchemist had the dopest and most unique sound with his production of that sample
Keep carrying on tradition bro. this is excellent stuff.
JustBlaze is a scientist.
I like what you did! Once you added everything in, it came together nicely!
Love your content, would be fun to see you break down a Nicolas Craven beat..
sick. i don't know how you find all this shit man, good job.
I was watching your videos at work and I just got off to see you uploaded again let’s goooo!!!
Hahah make sure you don't get fired
I love the Alchemist beat, but Just Blaze just did so much with it!
but we all have to agree that Navie's one is the best! (just agree with me, he is a tender little boy)
You did an awesome job analysing these two beats production processes! I'm impressed with your understanding of the thechniques that both ALC and Blaze used to produce each one's version of this sample usage. I love them both, but slightly prefer the "Hold You Down". Your beat is nice, but if I'd hear it somwhere without the knowledge of the used sample, there's no way I could discover the source, while the two beats you've compared here can be easily linked with the origin, but I don't think that was your goal through the production process. Great job!
OGs knew Al’s sample wasn’t saying “dowwnnnNnnnN” already. Love these videos though, thought your beat was real nice too.
👏👏👏🍪
Hey…… Fabolous - “Breathe”……. *it’s not saying “Breathe”*
You really grabed my attention and, nerded out on me real quick with the Super Deep Dive and educated my ear science to speak your language. I'm Thoroughly impressed with your 0-to-60 bonus beat! Klick your heels 3 times Mr Dorothy! Nice..
Both are legendary, but AL's version was a hood classic! As a kid, I heard AL's version everywhere, while I only really heard Just Blaze's version on Jay's album.
I already know all of this. Same time, I'm so happy and proud that you know this too. This is a music thing. Only those that know, actually understand. Much luv.
8:10 genius
This is the best Ted Talk I have ever seen. Thanks for the lesson!
2:53 really great manipulation
For sure. I love when people do that with samples
Is called the Mcgurk effect, even J Dilla did it in some of his production
@@prod_lebig thank you
I can’t wait for more additions to this series
I prefer Alchemist version, Just Blaze was way more creative but Alchemist was just a bit better but ngl that third one might be better than both
Tae you're a kind soul. I feel the same way, Just's sampling approach was really amazing but I just find I enjoy listening to Al's beat more
@@NavieD yeah Just took out of the box to the extreme with that
i really hope this is a new series also we need more just blaze breakdowns.
they both good but Blaze's one is more advance.
There is a lot of impressive work done for sure
As a rap/music nerd, I got excited by the thumbnail. The video outdid my expectations.
Basically, I’m saying that I subscribed. Gonna watch the video on Kanye’s production decline next 🔥
The answer is *Alchemist*
Always!
Love both beats and appreciate the break down on Blaze's effort but that Uncle Al beat is an all time classic. R.I.P. Bandana P
Only person won over here is legend himself “NAVIE D”🔥🗿
Hahah you're a kind soul Nytron
Freaky D*
Just Blazes addition of intruments and sample layers sets his beats apart and his goto drum fills is like a trademark. He said his beats used to struggle with highend layering & he tends to play an organ over his samples i noticed
Blaze
Just like the beat better overall?
@@NavieD yeah
Alchemist, the kick with the clap and the sample is super clean. As basic as it is, it scientifically perfect.
the most important thing to remember is that the simpler the sample processing and the less saturated the music with instrument tracks, the brighter and clearer it sounds. Leaving space for the performer!
Your videos keep better and better. It is amazing. I am a seasoned producer and i am very secretive on my weird techniques lol.
This is amazing. Keep up the good work
Now: both samples were done correctly to paint the correct pictures for the Song and artist. You can feel what JayZ was saying and what he was trying to do and then on the other side, Prodigy paints the hard pic of what the beat puts out if that makes sense.
What you did was amazing as well.
Thanks for pointing this out. Imho the difference between a producer and a beatmaker is psychological. The producer makes decisions based on what actually serves the concept/story/song/album. Everything is created around that intention.
Always liked Just Blaze’s version, even back then and this vid just confirmed it for me
that beat wasnt bad dude, i like how you break down thse beats from legendary producers and promote the plugin at the same time,, very sneaky i like, i wont tell anyone about the built in one thats .. i forgot what i was talking about. peace
your beat came out really good, gave me r&b vibes like bryson tiller or 6lack🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dammnnn you definitely should get someone to rap over the beat you made, that was amazing!! 🔥
You talk about all these great producers in your videos, but to me you up there with the best of them. Just another era… but later the real ones will name you with all the legends for sure
"Hold You Down" is one of my favorite Alchemist songs of all time! It would be hard to top it, but very interesting to see the sample used a different way by Just Blaze. Both did a great job. 🐐🔥Hey, your beat was great, too, NavieD!!! 😀
Alchemist slayed this next level!❤
Bro you're a Great Teacher..... Hope you become a Hip Hop Professor 💪😎🤙
I appreciate this. They both are legends!
YO!!! That was fire!!! You did fine!!! I subscribed just because you made a fire azz beat just as good as they did.
I love Just Blaze’s body of work, but Alchemist got this one!
Also, your beat was 🔥🔥🔥 Reminded a little of Biggie’s “Dead Wrong”. Maybe it was the snare you used that made me think of it.
Also, was that a plugin you used for the harp? If so, can you share which one it is?
ALCHEMIST... period. Genius sampling
Awesome breakdown 👍 very insightful, 2 very different approaches, but both as good
Such an interesting video. I’d love more like this - maybe take a song that’s frequently sampled and compare how 2 or more producers flipped it
I noticed Just Blaze has more of a sound engineer/ live musician approach to production, hence his surgical decisions (filtering, layering, grandiose arrangements, additional composition, etc.) .
Alchemist approaches it more like a DJ/Turntablist. He is more of a scavenger who cooks from scratch with whatever is left in the fridge, but it always ends up tasting good.
2 philosophies, 2 legends.
It’s almost like The Alchemist heard Just Blaze’s song, stripped it down and flipped it to make some thing smooth as silk. Sometimes it’s okay to be a fan and be inspired. Lol. Both are legends for a reason and serve 2 VERY different purposes in their music. The Alchemist is what you play when you’re planning your heist, Just Blaze is what you play during your escape! 😉 Lol. Thanks for posting. This was amazing.
I vote for alchemist although i give u props for flipping it in a whole different original direction so respect to u
Kool vid! 🫡 The Alchemist’s version is the one all day!! It’s been one of my go to freestyling beats for years!
I really like your version. I like the harp and the way the 808 goes with the sample. Also happy you didn’t go the trap route and stayed boom bap. Also “I’m a tender little boy” made me laugh
I thoroughly enjoyed this! Your beat is fire and when it comes to Just Blaze vs Alchemist…my vote goes to JB.