I'm not, bloodthrister does nothing for mf ult. People used to (and still do) build lethailty to get really good value out of ult, per wave tick the lethailty is constantly being applied. If we're talking about shields so that her w passive isn't always interrupted, it's good to go overheal with bloodline. Both items give the same ad, but as a mf main I see much more value into going collector before going bloodthirster.
@@TheSoca123 MF is an auto+ Q based champ now, forget about the ult till lategame honestly. It has great value for fast pushing a wave, but its real power comes in 5v5 teamfights when you should already have IE anyway
PLS, stop building collector. The item is so overrated and the ones building it doesn't know math. All you have to do is role up in to practice tool and see how much better LDR is.
It’s not about the dmg collector gives if you have PTA on MF with kraken you three shot people with the execute when you need kills cause you’re falling behind the execute will help you I went from 1-6 to 10-7 because I finished collector
@@rabbirex2372 If you are doing the BT build you are never buying collecter in a million years. It will allways be a 4 item and at that point you are so late into the game that it wont be better then LDR. Yey you should still never buy item, unless you are a champ like graves where you can buy both LDR and Collec - But you should still buy LDR over Collec.
I strongly disagree while AD and lifesteal are good stats on mf BT is just a trash item because of the stats it gives for it's cost, so is ER unfortunatly. So collector is still the best 2nd item on mf (if the enemy team is not full armor in wich case LDR is better) because it has a very good buildpath with dirk being the best componant in the game and also the fact that collector is very cost efficient even with the lethality that is half wasted until you get LDR. BT 2nd item in low elo and pro play is still a good choice tho.
I do the opposite. I build collector when there's a fuck ton of tanks on the enemy team. The 5% execute on collector is more valuable on tanks because 5% HP is harder to go thru on a tank as opposed to a squishy. It could still be like 200 HP. It's also good against sustain champs because again, you can ignore that last 5% HP and not worry about them getting a big heal right as you're about to kill them. I go LDR third item. I-Edge as a third item never feels good even though it feels like you're supposed to get it third.
This is either the biggest bait I've ever seen or the stupidest logic known to man, there's no way you think the lethality item is good against tanks because of a FIVE PERCENT execute
i don't think there's any guaranteed best 2nd item, often it's very conditional. I've seen success with ER first item when I'm behind, collector 2nd item into squishy, mobile champions, LDR if they have 3 tanks, BT if you need some survivability early
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Great point, im convinced
I'm not, bloodthrister does nothing for mf ult. People used to (and still do) build lethailty to get really good value out of ult, per wave tick the lethailty is constantly being applied. If we're talking about shields so that her w passive isn't always interrupted, it's good to go overheal with bloodline. Both items give the same ad, but as a mf main I see much more value into going collector before going bloodthirster.
@@TheSoca123 MF is an auto+ Q based champ now, forget about the ult till lategame honestly. It has great value for fast pushing a wave, but its real power comes in 5v5 teamfights when you should already have IE anyway
@@TheSoca123 Bloodthirster is just better in more situations. MF's power is in quick rotations from her W movespeed, so having bloodthirster early
PLS, stop building collector. The item is so overrated and the ones building it doesn't know math.
All you have to do is role up in to practice tool and see how much better LDR is.
It’s not about the dmg collector gives if you have PTA on MF with kraken you three shot people with the execute when you need kills cause you’re falling behind the execute will help you I went from 1-6 to 10-7 because I finished collector
@@rabbirex2372 What?? Nothing you are saying is making the purchase justifiable
@@rabbirex2372 If you are doing the BT build you are never buying collecter in a million years. It will allways be a 4 item and at that point you are so late into the game that it wont be better then LDR. Yey you should still never buy item, unless you are a champ like graves where you can buy both LDR and Collec - But you should still buy LDR over Collec.
I strongly disagree while AD and lifesteal are good stats on mf BT is just a trash item because of the stats it gives for it's cost, so is ER unfortunatly.
So collector is still the best 2nd item on mf (if the enemy team is not full armor in wich case LDR is better) because it has a very good buildpath with dirk being the best componant in the game and also the fact that collector is very cost efficient even with the lethality that is half wasted until you get LDR.
BT 2nd item in low elo and pro play is still a good choice tho.
I do the opposite. I build collector when there's a fuck ton of tanks on the enemy team. The 5% execute on collector is more valuable on tanks because 5% HP is harder to go thru on a tank as opposed to a squishy. It could still be like 200 HP. It's also good against sustain champs because again, you can ignore that last 5% HP and not worry about them getting a big heal right as you're about to kill them. I go LDR third item. I-Edge as a third item never feels good even though it feels like you're supposed to get it third.
If you wanna hit tanks hard buy LDR xd collector is a bait item most of the time like he said imo
This is either the biggest bait I've ever seen or the stupidest logic known to man, there's no way you think the lethality item is good against tanks because of a FIVE PERCENT execute
@@TovoneMH if i wanna hit tanks hard ill play a tank hitting champ. I mostly play lethality caster ad in the bot lane. Im not a good auto attacker.
i don't think there's any guaranteed best 2nd item, often it's very conditional. I've seen success with ER first item when I'm behind, collector 2nd item into squishy, mobile champions, LDR if they have 3 tanks, BT if you need some survivability early
Whatever, i very like her lethality build
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