DF Retro: Final Fantasy 7 - A JPRG Epic Analysed Across The Generations!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • What made the original Final Fantasy 7 such an epic release for the original PlayStation way back in 1997? How well did the ports to other systems fare and how did Square seek to follow up on his stone-cold classic? Join Digital Foundry for a celebration of a groundbreaking game, culminating in its recent release as the Final Fantasy 7 Remake for PlayStation 4 and PS4 Pro.
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  • @anshuvorty
    @anshuvorty 4 года назад +325

    5/5, a masterpiece of a retrospective. You could tell that this was created with passion and genuine appreciation of the game and franchise. Wow! One of the best retrospectives of all time, not just for Digital Foundry IMHO. Thanks, DF!

    • @akiinmoonlight79
      @akiinmoonlight79 4 года назад +4

      one of the best retrospectives ever for one of the best games of all time ♥️

    • @悪臭-p9p
      @悪臭-p9p 4 года назад +1

      Until you actually play the whole thing. 🤮

    • @悪臭-p9p
      @悪臭-p9p 4 года назад

      @Dr. Fresh_2k and there's always a fanboy who will put their emotions before their objectivity. It's an alt-timeline sequel masquerading as a remake, which isn't what they advertised. Sorry, not sorry.

    • @thelivingbeatTV
      @thelivingbeatTV 3 года назад

      @@shenglongx jm
      ..

  • @bluegollum
    @bluegollum 4 года назад +388

    An hour long DF Retro on FFVII? Thank you, thank you very much!

    • @JLawlietK
      @JLawlietK 4 года назад +5

      Holy Crap. It was an hour? I never realised.

  • @Gehab
    @Gehab 4 года назад +134

    The effort put into this is absolutely amazing. You guys never fail to deliver!

  • @genuinesaucy
    @genuinesaucy 3 года назад +17

    My favorite game of all time. I replay it every year or two, and it always reminds me what ludicrous, unparalleled potential video games have to be the greatest of all storytelling mediums. The extensive plot depth of a novel, the flashy visuals of an anime, that baller fucking soundtrack by Uematsu; but most of all, it's the interactivity. You _lived_ that grand adventure.

  • @SotNist
    @SotNist 4 года назад +36

    I was hyped out of my mind reading Gamefan previews of FF7 and replaying the demo disc over and over. I remember my mom coming to my school at lunch and showing me the game in the car that she picked up. She let me leave school early lol. And I remember watching that E3 2015 back to back triple hitter with the FF7 reveal... goosebumps.

    • @tomaszstarzZz
      @tomaszstarzZz 4 года назад +10

      SotNist your mom is epic!

    • @saxoman1
      @saxoman1 4 года назад

      @Cyberdemon Mike In your opinion, which is fine! I know many love FF9 over FF7 (I think FF6 beats FF9 and is on par or better than FF7).
      But you can't deny the deep rooted impact/importance of FF7, its the "Thriller" of FF games, no, JRPG's. FF7 is amazing!

  • @BattleFlanky
    @BattleFlanky 4 года назад +413

    Absolutely fantastic effort John, you should be extremely proud of this.

    • @tyo101
      @tyo101 Год назад +2

      Linneman is a gifted videogames analyst and historian.

    • @74Vidgamer
      @74Vidgamer Год назад +1

      @@tyo101Vastly underrated, he’s one of my top 3 favorite RUclipsrs.

    • @tyo101
      @tyo101 Год назад

      @@74Vidgamer Linneman is a great asset to the gaming community because of his in-depth knowledge and honesty.

  • @GamerForLife514
    @GamerForLife514 4 года назад +389

    I still remember playing FF7 for the PlayStation in 1997 and now I'm 42 yrs old and playing the FF7 Remake have always love Final Fantasy 7.

    • @ansellhalim
      @ansellhalim 4 года назад +18

      Me too, I played on 97 as well but in my country (Indonesia) there were only Japanese copy available, yet I finished that game despite didn't able to read anything 😂 I was 13 at that time, now 35.

    • @neoasura
      @neoasura 4 года назад +21

      Same here, 39 now. I got FF7 the first day it came out when I was 16 in 1997. I skipped school that day, locked myself in, and played the hell out of it. I was so blown away when I finally got to the overworld, when Midgar was just one of many places to explore. I was NOT expecting that.

    • @mwfcod0932
      @mwfcod0932 4 года назад +2

      I could not play it for those times because my dad bought the games from a fuy who pirated them and since they were multiple discs he never made them 😫🤣
      Now I can cuz I'm 37 and I can afford it lol

    • @84jesterx
      @84jesterx 4 года назад +5

      35 years old here, and the PS version of FFVII was my introduction to JRPGS and anime at the time. I've played many other JRPGs and entries in the FF series, and I still go back to this one because the story, characters, and ATB/Materia system STILL stand out from the rest. Others might argue it's too simple, but I'll retort that's it's strength among the rest. I think the literal only other JRPG that has got me on the same plane of enjoyment has been Persona 5. Huge gap, I know.

    • @kjellvb1979
      @kjellvb1979 4 года назад +5

      I ended up playing FF7 PC edition in 98, as I was going to by a PS1 to play it after trying it out on the console at a friends house. After seeing the PC version running on a 3dfx card, I was sold, and saved my paychecks for a Monster Voodo 3dfx 4mb card, and was so happy I waited! Never thought I would be in a simalar situation in 2020...but here I am waiting for 2021 and the PC version of FF7Remake.

  • @SnakEyes23
    @SnakEyes23 4 года назад +107

    You guys have helped me get through these hard times and I really appreciate it. Thank you John and co. 🙏

  • @tjbrawley9266
    @tjbrawley9266 4 года назад +9

    I’m only 17 and missed out on all the original ffvii hype. I completed the original and remake recently and watching this video gave me an excellent window into what this game really did for the genre and industry in general. I fell in love with ffvii when I played it and this video really did it justice. I’ve watched a lot of RUclips but when I say this is by far my favorite video on this website, I mean it. Amazing work

  • @Goreratten
    @Goreratten 4 года назад +54

    Fun Trivia: They where originaly planing on using Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children's Characters and meshed for the remake but when they found the 15+ year backup and examined the files they where less than impressed... So the characters of FFVII was yet again remodeled, rigged, textured :D
    Apparently Advent Children wheren't given the same treatment as The Spirits Within who's hero character models is better than most productions even with todays standards.
    On character is around 150Gb with texturedetails most computers in 2020 can't even handle with the insane amounts of subparalax layers like veins, mucles, sweat and whatnot. The rigging Took several weeks divided into several persons.
    It's the defination of overkill and not working smart but then again Squaresoft back the had a CGI reputation to uphold.
    Final Fantasy XV characters is pretty much the same meshes/riggs taken from Kingsglaive movie, slight reduction of injection points (muscles) removal of realstrain hair ofc and non Quadro'esk textures and resolution.. belive they still brag about the ingame characters have the most polygons out there ^^
    Can't wait for Ps5's pipeline of texture fidelity. I have a 1080ti but damnson even with 4k texture pack eating most of the 11gb of ram i must bow down in the dust as God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4 and Detroit: Become Human on a base Ps4 looka more 2020 than my "mustard rage "

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird 4 года назад +1

      Next gen is going to be crazy if PS5 and Series X are on the level of a 2070 and 2080Super with super fast memory and loading, plus that's not even counting all of the crazy secret sauce things that go behind those consoles.

    • @dixie_rekd9601
      @dixie_rekd9601 4 года назад +1

      The Spirits Within who's hero character models is better than most productions even with todays standards.
      thats not true tbh , modern CG characters are so much more lifelike and realistic than spirits within, despite the efforts that the character designers put into the spirits within, its now easier for a single person to make a more realistic character using lower resolution textures, lower poly meshes and simpler rigs. for the time it was done, spirits within was a world apart from anything else around but these days its not hard to render more realistic characters even in realtime.

    • @JPIndustrie
      @JPIndustrie 4 года назад

      Sure why do double work , but if papa sony is footing the consulting fee , why not remodel ?

    • @WickedRibbon
      @WickedRibbon 4 года назад

      Cool info. Thanks!

    • @jokerzwild00
      @jokerzwild00 4 года назад +1

      Those ps4 exclusives are impressive considering the hardware they're running on, but every single time I play one I can't help but imagine how much better they would look and play at higher resolution and framerate. They have gotten really good at working to the system's strength though and making the most of the paltry hardware they're working with, but on a 4k panel they look less than great sometimes and 30 fps can be... hard to adjust to. You can tell that the games themselves look great, but the hardware can't run them optimally. They should run awesomely on the ps5, I hope.

  • @turtle7871
    @turtle7871 4 года назад +60

    This was dope af. Having dabbled in the original as a kid, it’s cool to see how similar and different the remake is

  • @ludogatari9558
    @ludogatari9558 4 года назад +85

    Welp, I'm gonna save this one for later, and prepare snacks and a drink when I watch it. This gon' be good is an understatement.

    • @Doritomurderer
      @Doritomurderer 4 года назад +6

      i can say, having done so myself: it's a good time. john is a treasure

  • @ratedpeej14
    @ratedpeej14 4 года назад +47

    Outstanding job. My first time watching DF Retro. If they're even half of the quality of this, I'll watch them all. Thank you!

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 4 года назад +18

      Oh man, you are in store for some damn good video game media.

    • @skidmc
      @skidmc 4 года назад +2

      All roads led to This video...

    • @madfinntech
      @madfinntech 4 года назад +2

      They are and even better in many cases. You have been missing out.

  • @zerotolerance5581
    @zerotolerance5581 3 года назад +1

    There’s very little I wouldn’t do to be able to re-create that magic feeling I felt when I first played this game in 1997. I was 23, and was only just dipping my toes into rpgs at that point having played my first real rpg, Wild Arms, earlier that year. ❤️

  • @DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
    @DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 4 года назад +26

    Seeing ff13's graphic compared to ff7 remake's made me tear up a bit. Ff13 still looks phenomenal especially in cutscenes. But woah what a difference :)
    What a journey this franchise has been on. But feels like it's coming home and I could be happier about that.

    • @neildrunkmaam7040
      @neildrunkmaam7040 4 года назад +2

      FF13 trilogy needs a remaster like X and and XII.

    • @nighttimestalker
      @nighttimestalker 4 года назад +3

      I really love the 13 trilogies visuals. Especially with the X enhancement.

    • @worawatsr9803
      @worawatsr9803 4 года назад +1

      FF13 sucks

    • @ikwilgeenkanaalzeur
      @ikwilgeenkanaalzeur 4 года назад

      I agree, i have the pc version of 13 and it looks great these days. I just wish the battle system was different.

  • @marinomele4575
    @marinomele4575 4 года назад +35

    "Let's mosey"
    There. You have my like.

  • @blaket81
    @blaket81 4 года назад +31

    I was 16 when FF7 came out, I'm 38 now. Like a lot of people it was the first RPG I ever played. I actually didn't even know FF7 was an RPG when I got it, or that "turn-based" combat existed. All I remember from the commercial was a clip of the FMV just before the mini-game when they are escaping Midgar. At the time it was unlike anything else I had ever seen and I just had to have it. When I first started up the game and was presented with the combat I was a little taken back because I was used to faster paced games. Once I defeated the scorpion and the timer started counting down I was hooked. The rest is history, FF7 remains my favorite video game of all time even though RPGs still are not my favorite genre. I would like to thank DF for dedicating an hour to this masterpiece and its evolution.
    For those of you torn between your feelings of the remake I have come up with my own realization if it helps. I may hate what the game isn't, but I don't hate what it is.

    • @veilmontTV
      @veilmontTV Месяц назад

      I was 9. I didn't beat it until i was 11 or 12 but it was always one of my favorites. I grinded so much in that game

  • @ScottWozniak
    @ScottWozniak 4 года назад +12

    34:32 The Sound Canvas sounds great in regards to the drums. The toms / timpani are noticeably more powerful. 👍🏻

    • @exaltedb
      @exaltedb 4 года назад +3

      Scott Wozniak I’d say the midi versions were surprisingly close to the psx in terms of instruments, far better than I anticipated

  • @Blizniak666
    @Blizniak666 4 года назад +3

    Not a fan of the game or even the series in general but I really enjoyed this deep dive into what FF7 was and what it's become over the years. Fantastic job as always John!

    • @tomaszstarzZz
      @tomaszstarzZz 4 года назад

      Blizniak if you watched this, should give the Remake a go

  • @Jameshetfield18
    @Jameshetfield18 4 года назад

    almost 11 years on this website and its the first time i watch 10+ mins video from start to finish, and its freaking 1 hour long!!!....fucking brilliant work!!

  • @chrisrichfield8906
    @chrisrichfield8906 4 года назад +46

    Only John could make a series with this much passion and attention to detail.

  • @ramzaleonhart7436
    @ramzaleonhart7436 4 года назад +1

    John, this was one of the best contents ever created for the game and for videogames in general. what an amazing job! 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @necromancer1983x
    @necromancer1983x 4 года назад +10

    "Yes, the Super NES recieved numerous localizations of popular Japanese role playing games... but none of them made a splash equivalent to Japan"
    Chrono Trigger not getting a European release until 2009 maybe something to do with it? FF7 was the first time many people here had the opportunity to play a FF game/JRPG.

    • @aaronclay4665
      @aaronclay4665 4 года назад

      that statement was a bit of hyperbaly by him.. at least in my opinon back in NES and SNES days NO game was SUPER populare save mario sonic and such, and TONS of rpg were popular (i assume because they kept coming out with lots and lots ) on nes games like final fantasy faxsanadu, link, ultima, dragon quest, ect, and on super nintendo link aging, final fantasy 2(4) and 3(6), chrono trigger, secret of mana, earthbound, illusion of gaia, secret of evermore breath of fire i could go on an on and fukcing on...
      the thing is IF they were not popular in the west (i live in the usa) then why the fuck would they keep making that TYPE of game. all my friends who played games played rpgs....FF7 just got EVERYONE into them cuz it looked good at the time and was brand new besaides the top down 2d rpg......but trust me rpg were very popular

    • @nitinanku
      @nitinanku 4 года назад +1

      aaron clay Earthbound definitely wasn’t popular in the West, mainly because of how terrible the marketing was

    • @Alorso_
      @Alorso_ 4 года назад

      I think john was mainly trying to say that at the time, no other RPG had the grand Impact of FF7, not that they didnt make any money or have any fan base. They definately did, otherwise yeah they wouldn't have kept localizing RPGs here in the west

  • @JustAnotherGamerUS
    @JustAnotherGamerUS 7 месяцев назад

    10/10 review! fantastic production quality, usage of music shot cuts visual effects and carefully curated moments to accentuate the scene. also your writing and retrospective add so much value. you are truly one of the greats, john linneman. it is a complete joy to watch your films. thank you for gracing us with so many of them ❤ one historical correction: you are correct that in the 80s-90s it was assumed in north america that rpgs were not well suited to consoles, nor were they blockbuster-level popular, but this was all role-playing games, not exclusively ones that came from japan.

  • @mmpsp693
    @mmpsp693 4 года назад +22

    1:39 "Let's mosey"

  • @xepacagueta2009
    @xepacagueta2009 4 года назад

    this is the only channel that can keep me watching an one hour video without stand up. Amazing job, incredible hight quality content. Congratulations! Ps: the most impressive thing is that my favorite FF its not the 7, but 9, even thou, this video is a must.

  • @jericoba
    @jericoba 4 года назад +21

    Wow, how far we've come in terms of graphics. Mind-blowing.

    • @NeblogaiLT
      @NeblogaiLT 4 года назад +3

      Yes- 3D started bad.

    • @Edino_Chattino
      @Edino_Chattino 4 года назад +1

      @@NeblogaiLT As much as I loved FF7, it´s much easier to play the original FF6 than FF7 today. 3D aged so badly.

    • @NeblogaiLT
      @NeblogaiLT 4 года назад

      @@Edino_Chattino That is true. For me- PS2 with graphics improved on an emulator is where 3D starts to look good. Generaly- 2D aged the best, and games that use sprites aged ok, but early pure 3D is often too much to handle.

    • @saxoman1
      @saxoman1 4 года назад +2

      @@NeblogaiLT Its interesting to think that SNES and Genesis games look and play beautifully even today, while N64 and PS1 games seem MORE aged/dated/primitive by comparison (even though the tech was more advanced).
      The 16-bit machines were, in a way, the pinnacle of 2D and sprite based games (even by today's standards perhaps!) while the first 3D consoles were the infancy of 3D and polygonal based games. So the disparity of the two generations, viewed from a modern lens, makes total sense in a way.
      I'd love a DF retro discussing this topic!

  • @TariqKhan-gl2zh
    @TariqKhan-gl2zh 3 года назад

    Even after I've played FFVII remake and am eagerly awaiting the next instalment, when you showed the reveal trailer, I still got a flutter in my chest, a shiver down my spine and I couldn't say a word. Just like when I first saw the reveal trailer myself. What a moment in gaming.

  • @jokerzwild00
    @jokerzwild00 4 года назад +5

    I remember when I beat FF7 for the first time. I was only like 19 years old, I had stayed up all night playing and gotten almost to the end. I was about to drag my tired ass out of bed to go to work the next day when I looked at the Playstation and decided that I was gonna take a sick day even though I really needed to work. I didn't even go back to bed, I immediately started playing again and later that day I was finished. It wasn't my first Final Fantasy, but it was definitely the most visually striking RPG I had played up until that point. I loved and still love Chrono Trigger, FF3+4, ye olde Dragon Warrior, Ultima VII and others, but FF7 was different. The FMVs and cinematic approach let me connect to the characters in a way that I hadn't with other games. Not better than the 2d games, just in a different way. It helps that FF7 was a lot more approachable than any other RPG I had ever played. People that never would have played one before were all of a sudden checking this new one out. It was a cool time for games.
    Good video, thank you for making this kind of content.

  • @MatSpeedle
    @MatSpeedle Год назад

    I picked this up from WH Smiths in the UK in Late 1998 for £20. I remember when I first played it I didn't quite get why the characters looked so blocky but I stuck with it, the FMV was mindblowing to me at the time. It's the first RPG I played and completed, and the first time a game got me fully emotionally involved. Lot's of nostalgia and love for this classic. Great video John, awesome stuff as always!

  • @Marine-gi8yq
    @Marine-gi8yq 4 года назад +14

    After playing FF7R it really makes me yearn for a Legend of Dragoon remake. Sad that we may never get to see one. That game could have been an amazing series.

    • @MARTIN92ELCHUY
      @MARTIN92ELCHUY 4 года назад +3

      I thought sony own the right to legend of dragoon not square

    • @Alorso_
      @Alorso_ 4 года назад

      @@MARTIN92ELCHUY They do, sony's internal team made the game, and they know there's demand for it. They could easily do a remake if they wanted to, its just a matter of if the sales of a remake would justify the cost of development

  • @권용대-b5v
    @권용대-b5v 3 года назад

    Incredible works! I daresay this is the very best video of DF.

  • @mrmarc4074
    @mrmarc4074 4 года назад +38

    FFVII on PS1 in my Top 10 all time.

    • @Ford-wt8rn
      @Ford-wt8rn 4 года назад +2

      top 3 here

    • @Tenpouin
      @Tenpouin 4 года назад +3

      still top 1 for me

    • @martinpetersson4350
      @martinpetersson4350 4 года назад +1

      Good game, but I personally liked FFIX more. However when FFVII came out I was blown away by it, it was the first FF game I ever saw as far as I can remember! Sadly I couldn't ever play the full game until like 2004-2005 or something though but once I could I did and it was a good game.

  • @byronbae8606
    @byronbae8606 3 года назад +1

    I recently started playing the original on Xbox. I'm 11 hours in and loving it. Truly amazing game with great characters, story, and world. It lives up to the hype to this day.

  • @TheEnixSquared
    @TheEnixSquared 4 года назад +20

    I thought the FMV transitions in the remake were a great and subtle homage to the original.

    • @Edino_Chattino
      @Edino_Chattino 4 года назад +6

      I have to be honest, I´m still not sure which scenes were FMV. The real time rendering is that good.

    • @nitinanku
      @nitinanku 4 года назад +5

      Eduardo Portas The FMV scenes in the remake honestly looked worse than real time, it was a lower resolution than the actual gameplay was

    • @frostynukacola
      @frostynukacola 4 года назад

      You can say homage, or you can look at games like Metroid other M that was released in 2010 and realize that this has just been done for a long time now.

    • @neat3468
      @neat3468 4 года назад +3

      You can easily tell which are FMV because Cloud suddenly gets the BusterSword back on his back and equipping Materia that you definitely don't have equipped.

    • @Edino_Chattino
      @Edino_Chattino 4 года назад +1

      @@neat3468 good point

  • @umbra7603
    @umbra7603 Год назад +1

    Just fantastic. I am currently replaying FF7Remake, after finishing Crisis Core FF7Reunion on PS5, and I plan on replaying OG FF7 all before getting my hands on Part 2 FF7 Rebirth in the holiday season. Man, is it the best time to be an FF7 fan. ❤

  • @hbsamurai3173
    @hbsamurai3173 4 года назад +7

    This is incredible.
    I wrote my Bachelor Thesis on the concept of immersion seen through the evolution of the Final Fantasy Saga, and even tho im only halfway through we touch on many similar points.
    Makes me feel like a did a good job hehe
    thanks as always, great stuff.

  • @TristanPR77
    @TristanPR77 4 года назад

    My respects to DF John for this video. Truly amazing. FF7 Is a pillar in our gaming world. I played the original back in 1977 and playing the remake was simply a satisfying experience where a dropped many tears of joy.

  • @nickharris5231
    @nickharris5231 4 года назад +3

    Now that we are coming to the end of this generation, and with such impressive character models like Cloud in FF7 Remake; I would love to see DF do a breakdown comparison of the best character models of the last 7 years. Cloud, Kratos, Peter Parker/Spiderman, Nathan Drake, and Jesse Faden from Control all come to mind. It would be awesome to have the team weigh in on which they think is the peak of modern game modeling.

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird 4 года назад +1

      Quantum Break has amazing models

    • @dixie_rekd9601
      @dixie_rekd9601 4 года назад +2

      realism in character rendering comes from amazing lighting, shaders and animation rather than just great character models.

    • @nickharris5231
      @nickharris5231 4 года назад

      @@dixie_rekd9601 sure, all of that comes into play for the full, complete effect of how we perceive the character detail. But semantics aside, what choices did different developers make and what seems like the most effective approach? Something about FF7 Remake's characters feels more polished and cinematic. They seem "rounder" or softer, and more lifelike than most others. I think Kratos is the other contender, but he does feel slightly more "digital" somehow, even if we see more detail.

  • @SonnyFrisco
    @SonnyFrisco 4 года назад

    John, you make the most entertaining Video Game videos of all time. Incredible video work as always.

  • @tiagoj8020
    @tiagoj8020 4 года назад +9

    The first game to ever make me cry! Seeing how this game is important (remake) to others now bring back those feelings again! 🥺🤧😇😁
    I'm loving remake!

  • @emmanuelsanchez2384
    @emmanuelsanchez2384 4 года назад +1

    Wow... Amazing work Digital Foundry! Thank you for this epic documentary.

  • @steffennilsen2132
    @steffennilsen2132 4 года назад +13

    Around 56:52, I still can't wrap my head around how that glass breaks apart when its about as thick as the truck is wide

    • @TaimatCR
      @TaimatCR 4 года назад +2

      😂 True that

  • @geoffreyberry1160
    @geoffreyberry1160 4 года назад

    This brought back so many memories! An amazing documentary John. Well done. Love the DF Retro.

  • @barrymatharu3162
    @barrymatharu3162 4 года назад +3

    First played FFVII on the PC and remember trying to get the audio correct, used to crash on Disc 3 so never got to the end. Would love to see the same but for FF VIII

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 4 года назад

      I had it crash on the final battle and could never complete it. I just watched the ending on RUclips later.

  • @SuperJumpReviews
    @SuperJumpReviews 4 года назад +1

    I guess we can all thank Spirits Within for creating the template for what FF7 remake would eventually become.

  • @mannymanmoon
    @mannymanmoon 4 года назад +8

    Wow this is so enlightening. It shows how far we've all progressed, not just square enix.
    Thank you!

  • @tazmanceltic
    @tazmanceltic 4 года назад

    Amazing work. Probably my favourite mini series on RUclips.

  • @Rithysak101
    @Rithysak101 4 года назад +43

    The promise land theme always bring chills down my spine.

    • @Miadaskate
      @Miadaskate 4 года назад +1

      My favorite has always been Anxiety / Anxious Heart

    • @Tenpouin
      @Tenpouin 4 года назад +1

      I love the Forgotten City theme. Sounds so ethereal

    • @martinpetersson4350
      @martinpetersson4350 4 года назад

      yeah it's soooo good!

    • @Storm1Trooper5
      @Storm1Trooper5 Год назад

      It’s crazy good

  • @adamreid5901
    @adamreid5901 4 года назад

    oooooo a 57min DF Retro! Thank you John for your consistently excellent and hard work

  • @pipikakachu
    @pipikakachu 4 года назад +17

    Square stayed true to its roots !! In 1996 they were the best at cutscene movies and are still the best.

    • @enyaliosares4301
      @enyaliosares4301 4 года назад

      YOUNG KHALID 1996?

    • @palody_en-ja
      @palody_en-ja 4 года назад +1

      @@enyaliosares4301 please excuse my friend here, he's a time traveler.

    • @enyaliosares4301
      @enyaliosares4301 4 года назад

      Patrick Lofstrom I think it’s more that FF7 didn’t come out till January 1997 sooo

  • @zac3k33
    @zac3k33 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Digital Foundry for this amazing retro video compilation awesome job for the fans!

  • @ulftimell8733
    @ulftimell8733 4 года назад +8

    My favorite game of all time. Still remember when I got my PS1 and FF7, the game that came to propel my passion for gaming and define me as a serious gamer. JRPG's is to this day my favorite genre thanks to FF7. I play FF7 once every year, that's how much this game still means to me. And with the Remake I get to relive and experience my favorite story once again in a modern take ❤
    Thank you DF for this retro episode!

  • @Evil.Totoro
    @Evil.Totoro 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for this detailed look at all things Final Fantasy VII, it couldn’t have come at a better time. Digital Foundry, you guys are a gem on RUclips. If I may be so bold, I would love to see a detailed breakdown of how Advent Chuldren compare technically with one another, or how Remake compares with that Agni’s Philosophy tech demo we got at the start of the generation.

  • @MetalGod-id8st
    @MetalGod-id8st 4 года назад +7

    Did you guys analyse the "DOOR" and other low res stuff in the remake?? 😂😂😂

    • @Ti7Vk3y
      @Ti7Vk3y 4 года назад +5

      It's kinda funny that you don't even need to say more than the "DOOR" for me to know exactly which doors you mean lmao.

    • @MetalGod-id8st
      @MetalGod-id8st 4 года назад

      @TechnicalTortuga they had used low res stuff in the city to cut corners which were missed out

  • @Starfals
    @Starfals 4 года назад +1

    Retrospectives dont get better than this. Gametrailers used to do some good ones too, shame they had to close. At least we got DF

  • @gc3k
    @gc3k 4 года назад +13

    FF7 was memed and spoiled to death since it first came out, so I never bothered to play it. Even popular PS1 games like Resident Evil, Xenogears or Metal Gear Solid weren't blown wide open like FF7, so I was able to enjoy them without having to buy them on launch day. A testament to how insanely successful FF7 was, I guess

  • @toddwhorley2611
    @toddwhorley2611 4 года назад +2

    Well produced and thought out look at a classic. This was an excellently spent hour of my time.

  • @Scramble187
    @Scramble187 4 года назад

    Holy shit, John! What a great video! Digital Foundry is lucky to have you

  • @Mithrie
    @Mithrie 4 года назад +5

    I loved this game so much! Thanks for the in-depth analysis, I'll be sure to watch it all when I can!

  • @pelgervampireduck
    @pelgervampireduck 4 года назад +2

    I played it first on PC, in 1999 I think, it looked great compared to ps1. I used the "normal midi" from the sound blaster 16 card because installing the yamaha synth thing slowed down the game a lot. I found out a couple of years later that there was supposed to be vocals in the sepiroth song.

  • @RyuHazuki82
    @RyuHazuki82 4 года назад +6

    Even after finishing Remake and now doing 2nd playtrough, i have feel like i wanna go back to original and play it again. Its so timeless classic it never gets old.

  • @Drukzul
    @Drukzul 4 года назад

    Legitimately one of the best retrospectives I've ever experienced. Thanks for this.

  • @mainsmain
    @mainsmain 4 года назад +14

    Are you gonna do a DF Retro for Resident Evil 3 like of what you did for Resident Evil 2?

    • @Aggrofool
      @Aggrofool 4 года назад +1

      Why...? It's the same engine with very few innovations. A cash-grab at the sunset of PS1.

    • @mainsmain
      @mainsmain 4 года назад

      @@Aggrofool the ports are different and I would like to see a video about them

    • @ekopermana7150
      @ekopermana7150 4 года назад

      @@Aggrofool yep, just look at RE 2, and we get the same thing, no need for DF retro IMO

  • @DavidAddis
    @DavidAddis 4 года назад

    Blimey this was a bit of a treat, thank you DF!

  • @Sakurina
    @Sakurina 4 года назад +6

    This is the best looking implementation of the DF Retro Audio Player, love it

  • @UPHENOS
    @UPHENOS 4 года назад

    John, outstanding work as always, congrats! Please make a DF Retro episode for the Fear Effect series and the interesting tech which powered it! Cheers mate!

  • @peixefelipe16
    @peixefelipe16 4 года назад +4

    This is the best videogame that I've played in my whole life!

  • @rustedgearbox7064
    @rustedgearbox7064 4 года назад +1

    really appreciate the use of the advent children ost

  • @MrPoisonito
    @MrPoisonito 4 года назад +6

    Ha-ha, just read opening credits as Digital Proudly presents:) and...it's true!

  • @TOMHICHIBAN
    @TOMHICHIBAN 2 года назад

    It needs to be said 2 years later that this is awesome content you've produced.

  • @AL_EVOz
    @AL_EVOz 4 года назад +4

    i watched this entire video. FFVII is such a huge game for me. This was a trip down memory lane. Thank you DF =)

  • @HalfLifeOfHumanity
    @HalfLifeOfHumanity 3 года назад

    51:37 I did a double take when I first saw this credit and my brain read it as "Producer: Yoshikage Kira". I had to rewind and double check what I saw, even though I knew there was no way it could bet true... But in my mind, the first time I saw the credit all I saw was "Yoshikage Kira".

  • @ArkaynAdrian
    @ArkaynAdrian 4 года назад +3

    Really well executed John. Enjoyed it immensely.
    Hope FF& remake part 2 isn't 5 years away. I do have a feeling all the open world streaming etc will be very doable on PS5 and hence maybe part 2 will be the last part and not that far off. Time will tell!

  • @ziadassaad1371
    @ziadassaad1371 4 года назад +2

    "It's difficult to underestimate just how remarkable the visuals were four 1997..."
    However the saying is- "it's difficult to overestimate..."
    In other words, it's easy to underestimate just how remarkable the graphics were in '97. And only now, in hindsight, can we see how truly revolutionsru they were.

  • @l_unaSy
    @l_unaSy 4 года назад +4

    I was only expecting a retrospective on the original game, so I lost it when John started talking about Gackt.

  • @sacmienboi916
    @sacmienboi916 4 года назад

    It’s not the end of the journey. This is just the beginning. “ The unknown journey will continue.” Excellent video that showcases the history and effort Square put together in the last 20 plus years.

  • @Writespeakdance
    @Writespeakdance 4 года назад +3

    Wow, those midis bring back memories! Back when you had to buy the music cd or pirate to get access to mp3s of the music, I often found free midi files of these songs to listen to on Winamp.

  • @Roland_Deschain
    @Roland_Deschain 4 года назад

    Never owned a psx but I grew up watching and playing FF7 on my neighbours console with a bit of envy. The game was phenomenal for its time thus we must have spent several thousand hours playing it stretching to multiple playthroughs. Likely most played game ever for me.
    When FF7 was released for PC, I was ecstatic. Had a Pentium 133 at the time so had to purchase an additional 3d accelarator card. It was probably a vodoo gfx :) Vaguely remember that there was a bug with mime materia that allowed you to clone items.
    Time surely flies by..

  • @bboysupes
    @bboysupes 4 года назад +3

    I remember my younger brother got this game when it first released and I thought it was so weird that a guy with a sword was fighting dudes with guns. I didn't play it til several years later. Man, was I missing out.

  • @TylerNessss
    @TylerNessss 2 года назад

    Tearinh up.
    What a game... what a masterpiece.
    Well done John. Truly well done.

  • @EcofoodKazakhstan
    @EcofoodKazakhstan 4 года назад +5

    These 32 dislikes at the moment... I would like to hear their point. This video is absolutely amazing.

    • @ucle9955
      @ucle9955 4 года назад +3

      yeah seriously, I literally can't criticize anything. The quality is superb

    • @ekopermana7150
      @ekopermana7150 4 года назад +1

      Well, there is a bunch of haters, childish peoples, and who want to be edgy on internet, so........

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree 4 года назад +1

      Eko Permana so people who don’t like the video are “haters”? What refreshing take in 2020. People have the right to like and dislike what they want. Just like there are people who don’t like the new ffvii remake. I swear man people need to stop thinking like robots.

    • @ekopermana7150
      @ekopermana7150 4 года назад

      @@AveMcree maybe you should think about the context first, read carefully what the TS mean, and read my comment again, so you are not look like a stupid child on internet

  • @RetroSegaDev
    @RetroSegaDev 4 года назад

    Final Fantasy VII has not only earned it's place in history but also our hearts :)

  • @respox2191
    @respox2191 4 года назад +6

    Even if Nomura ruins the remake, the original will always be one of the greatest JRPGs of all time.

    • @lasarousi
      @lasarousi 4 года назад

      Isn't it already out?

    • @soliduswasright678
      @soliduswasright678 4 года назад

      He didn't ruin it though, also it's not even done; there's more parts to come.

    • @SageX85
      @SageX85 4 года назад

      @@soliduswasright678 because is not finished is exactly why he still can ruin it

    • @laxking251
      @laxking251 4 года назад

      The remake is fucking great lol

    • @debrucey
      @debrucey 4 года назад +2

      Jace B I’m watching this video to help deal with my grief at how much they shat the bed with the remake’s ending

  • @wandererman21
    @wandererman21 4 года назад +1

    Great video and in depth look. You should be proud. Great job!!

  • @raimee81
    @raimee81 4 года назад +3

    I still have my cd's for the game when it released originally on the PC, but was never close to finishing it. I'm playing the remake now, and i'm so invested in the characters now, that i'm going to play the original now despite the old old...old graphics because my investment in the characters now trumps all technical shortcomings and I want to finish the story, learn more about the characters. No way am I going to wait years for the remake to be finished.

    • @InsideOutJellyBaby
      @InsideOutJellyBaby 4 года назад +2

      I'm doing the same!! :D
      Can't wait for Remake Part 2!!

    • @ykoartem
      @ykoartem 4 года назад

      Same. Remake is blow my mind and i eventualy instal OG version with mods and now already leave Midgar after 5 hours :D

    • @Renk1
      @Renk1 4 года назад

      I recommend the masterful Remako mod for better visuals!

  • @devin_the_dude_3
    @devin_the_dude_3 4 года назад

    Awesome stuff as usual from DF. This has convinced me to play the original midgar section before diving into Remake. Thank you DF team.

  • @DarshUK1
    @DarshUK1 4 года назад +5

    Just a heads up for anyone playing the remake that has never played the original. He shows the end boss and other spoilers. Doesn't affect me but might be worth noting :)

  • @zZiL341yRj736
    @zZiL341yRj736 4 года назад +2

    Why Final Fantasy 7 is unique;
    Dark, industrialize settings.
    Slums, a 1950s art style, real Japanese, swearing. NPC dresses like real people with real problems.
    Final Fantasy 8, 10, 13, 15;
    Extreme sci-fi looks.
    Visual style, alien technology, too bright/coloful. NPC and characters dressed weird as FUCK! Fake stupid ass sounding languages and text.

  • @TheColorUrple
    @TheColorUrple 4 года назад +7

    10:40 "It's the little things like the shrugs and the temper tantrums....."
    YES! That's the reason I was disappointed that the Remake was going in the realistic direction. Barrett's temper tantrums gave him a personality that some sunglasses and a Cool Guy attitude can't replicate.

  • @fennecfox83
    @fennecfox83 4 года назад

    Thank you for my personal best DF retro episode so far. And kudos for clever use of Last of Us loading screen :)

  • @waqasaftab1403
    @waqasaftab1403 4 года назад +10

    This is the one I have been wait for, I Love Final Fantasy VII. What an epic remake, although I can't help but feel that having games cut into episodes takes away the grandeur.
    It runs perfectly on my pro, I couldn't have asked for a better remake, even better than I could have imagined!
    Thank you Square and thank you DF for this analysis

    • @weaverquest
      @weaverquest 4 года назад +2

      Yeah but the first episode is almost as long as the full original. Imagine how epic in scale it's going to be when/if all the parts releases. Possibly the biggest single player adventure game ever.

  • @danieljones4577
    @danieljones4577 4 года назад

    Excellent video ! really enjoyable and fascinating insight into how Final Fantasy 7 was made from a technical perspective and presented in easy to watch and entertaining package !

  • @RichieMyers12
    @RichieMyers12 4 года назад +9

    This rivals Gametrailers outstanding Retrospective series. Great job here!

  • @madfinntech
    @madfinntech 4 года назад

    My friend imported the Japanese version (to Europe) when it released and we were awestruck! I imported the US version when it released because I wanted it in English and finally my brother bought the slow PAL version when it finally released. The holy trifecta of Final Fantasy VII on PlayStation!

  • @Deffine
    @Deffine 4 года назад +4

    53:07 Completely false, it doesnt retain the feeling from original FF7 at all.

    • @RaifSeverence
      @RaifSeverence 4 года назад +1

      Well they (Square) DID say it wasnt going to be a 1:1 remake. And that it would incorporate elements of the compilation of FF7.
      I see comments like these and I feel like I'm the only one who expected them to do this.

    • @Deffine
      @Deffine 4 года назад +2

      @@RaifSeverence I actually expected more respect for the original material. This is very different in its presentation, art, story and characters. Fact of the matter is they are two completely different games, its not a remake, its an alternative FF7 story version.

    • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
      @tHeWasTeDYouTh 4 года назад +2

      @@RaifSeverence Quote from Kitase:
      "We’re not drastically changing the story and making it into something completely different than the original. Even though it’s a Remake, please assume the story of FF7 will continue as FF7 always has"
      bunch of liars. they literally went full Kingdom Hearts by the end of the remake

  • @JustanotherTuba
    @JustanotherTuba 3 года назад

    I first played FF7 in 99’ when I was 10
    Years old. I still remember the day I finally completed it - that sense of achievement was unmatched for a while 😂❤️ I’ve also really enjoyed the remake

  • @cahan7033
    @cahan7033 4 года назад +6

    I’ll wait for the complete edition on PC, will probably take a few years but I know it will be one of the best gaming experiences of all time 😊

    • @mcnugget9497
      @mcnugget9497 4 года назад +2

      Seems like they are milking the f out of this when the next part of the game comes out are they going to make another collector's edition probably

    • @Kougeru
      @Kougeru 4 года назад +1

      @@mcnugget9497 if you had played the remake you'd know they're NOT milking it

    • @robertlawrence9000
      @robertlawrence9000 4 года назад

      @@Kougeru I played the original and I have the remake and yes they are milking it

    • @robertlawrence9000
      @robertlawrence9000 4 года назад

      Maybe the game will be complete in time for the 2030 zombie apocalypse.

    • @rowanunderwood
      @rowanunderwood 4 года назад +1

      Lol, I'll put it at about 5 years. Keep in mind you are waiting for part 2 + the pc port of part 2 + the complete collection + the PC port of the complete collection.

  • @MoisesSoto
    @MoisesSoto 4 года назад

    Really good job on this one. I didn’t expect to watch the entire video but you kept it interesting all the way!
    Final Fantasy is a very special game, I didn’t have a PSone back in the day, and hated the graphics compared to N64. It turns out that almost all games I missed on PSone were released as updated games on N64/Gamecube.
    I remember playing RE2 on N64 with the memory pack upgraded visuals, later on Gamecube I got to play REmake and MGS Twin Snakes. It was around that time after waiting a FF VII updated release for almost 10 years that I bought the original PSone discs and decided to play them on my PS3.
    Now seeing your amazing work here I realized there were a lot of details I missed about how well designed this game was, maybe because it was on the PS3 era.
    The only thing that bothered me was how it seems you were told that most of these technical aspects of the game could not be realized on the N64 and how PSone “unique hardware” allowed to make these feats. The reason why PSone had to be used is because they needed the massive space provided by CDs compared to cartridges. At the time the compression algorithms were not as advanced, so they really had to use CDs for the cutscenes, and backgrounds. Other than that, the N64 was a better machine in every other aspect. A few years later it was possible to bring games with voiceovers and compressed video to N64 and just looking at games like Perfect Dark and RE2 you could tell that FFVII would have far better graphics on N64.
    Still I’m glad Square went ahead with their vision and released the game as it was envisioned by the designers. It was really an industry changing game.

    • @mopeybloke
      @mopeybloke 3 года назад

      The N64 wasn't better in all other aspects. Its only real advantage was accurate 3d rendering. However, laggy memory would force people to use very low quality textures on the system (which were then heavily blurred by its bilinear filtering and anti-aliasing). Games in general had lower quality textures, worse sound quality, worse frame rates.
      Those pre-rendered backgrounds in Zelda were much lower quality than the ones used for PSX RPGs/ Adventure games for instance, and they would necessarily be filtered and more compressed.
      The PS1 also has hardware acceleration for FMV, and more storage space for video. Also a more independent sound chip.
      There would be many cutbacks if the game was on N64, as you could see from the Resi 2 port. Which was still pretty good, but that doesn't have as many assets as RPGs would have so quality would've likely suffered more.

  • @dcb6729
    @dcb6729 4 года назад +5

    FF7 and FF9 are my favorite. What's sad is looking at a lot of the textures and static backgrounds of final fantasy 7 the remakes textures look the same. 🤔🤦‍♂️