The Story of Final Fantasy 7 .. So Far | A Comparative Analysis of the Original AND Remake
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Table of Contents:
0:00 - Introduction, Disclaimers, and My Personal Experience with FF7
8:52 - The Music of FF7
11:44 - The Bombing Mission, Cloud Strife, Barret Wallace and the Mako Conflict
26:38 - Sephiroth Discussion and Theories + The Approach of the Remake + The Whispers
44:48 - The End of the Mission + Tifa Lockhart
53:26 - Midgar
56:54 - Jessie, Biggs, Wedge and Chapter 4
1:08:51 - Shinra and the Second Mission
1:12:33 - Aerith Gainsborough Discussion and Theories
1:28:36 - The Sector 5 Slums and Wall Market
1:42:22 - The Sewers and the Train Graveyard
1:52:23 - The Plate Drop and the Turks
2:05:47 - The Aftermath
2:12:10 - The Remake's Character Resolution Scenes
2:19:13 - Chapter 14 and Shinra Headquarters
2:31:27 - The Interlude and the Trail of Blood
2:42:02 - Rufus Shinra and the End of the Original's Midgar Arc
2:45:53 - The Remake's Ending - Discussion, Theories and Interpretations
3:03:15 - The Remake's Final Scenes + Concluding Thoughts, Interpretations and Speculation About Future Parts
3:17:36 - Personal Conclusion
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Sources:
⁃ A link to Lorerunner’s FFVII playthrough, which helped form some of my thoughts on the original game and also doubled as a source for the footage for the original Final Fantasy VII playthrough: • Classic Run: Final Fan...
⁃ Source 1 for the footage for the FFVIIR playthrough, as well as the source for some Crisis Core footage: / glplayground
⁃ Source 2 for the footage for the FFVIIR playthrough: • Final Fantasy VII Rema...
⁃ Source 3 for the footage for the FFVIIR playthrough (Mentioned in the video as Gameplay Garage but have since changed their channel name to "Cipher"): • Final Fantasy VII Rema...
⁃ A link to a podcast entitled "Dropped Frames" that helped me gather my thoughts on the ending of the Remake (the discussion I mentioned about the Lifestream chapters starts at about 22 minutes in): • Dropped Frames Special...
⁃ Lifestream Black and LifeStream White excerpts, translated: thelifestream.net/novels-nove...
⁃ Two Twitter threads translating important bits of the FFVII Remake Ultimania: / 1255553713260789760 / 1256005845222961153
⁃ A link to the Final Fantasy wiki, which was used for some fact-checking: finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/...
⁃ Additional lore tidbits provided from reading a physical copy of the original Final Fantasy VII Ultimania
⁃ An interview with Sakaguchi about the theme of FFVII: www.ff7citadel.com/press/int_s...
- Let's Mosey: A Slow Translation Of Final Fantasy VII: • Let's Mosey: A Slow Tr...
⁃ My video on Barret: • The Flawed Beauty of B... 
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PLEASE READ:
- Here is Part 2 to this series, my take on the Yuffie Episode: ruclips.net/video/hg_cmeBylcs/видео.html
- This video is a gigantic and very varied rumination and exploration of both Final Fantasy 7 Remake and the original Final Fantasy 7. It covers personal reflections and anecdotes, character/theme/setting analysis, theories, speculation, discussions about the intent of the games and criticism and praise about the story. There is a lot in here, so if you’re not interested in a certain topic, you can use the Table of Contents below to skip through.
- RUclips really screwed me with the compression of the video quality, so please watch on 1440p to limit the amount of visual murkiness and pixelation!
- Something to clarify is that I say within this that Sakaguchi’s mother died in 1988. However, while this is a year I found on multiple websites, there are no concrete sources to confirm the year 100%, and the only thing that is for certain is that she died during the development of III (since Sakaguchi confirmed that himself).
Table of Contents:
0:00 - Introduction, Disclaimers, and My Personal Experience with FF7
8:52 - The Music of FF7
11:44 - The Bombing Mission, Cloud Strife, Barret Wallace and the Mako Conflict
26:38 - Sephiroth Discussion and Theories + The Approach of the Remake + The Whispers
44:48 - The End of the Mission + Tifa Lockhart
53:26 - Midgar
56:54 - Jessie, Biggs, Wedge and Chapter 4
1:08:51 - Shinra and the Second Mission
1:12:33 - Aerith Gainsborough Discussion and Theories
1:28:36 - The Sector 5 Slums and Wall Market
1:42:22 - The Sewers and the Train Graveyard
1:52:23 - The Plate Drop and the Turks
2:05:47 - The Aftermath
2:12:10 - The Remake's Character Resolution Scenes
2:19:13 - Chapter 14 and Shinra Headquarters
2:31:27 - The Interlude and the Trail of Blood
2:42:02 - Rufus Shinra and the End of the Original's Midgar Arc
2:45:53 - The Remake's Ending - Discussion, Theories and Interpretations
3:03:15 - The Remake's Final Scenes + Concluding Thoughts, Interpretations and Speculation About Future Parts
3:17:36 - Personal Conclusion
Sources:
⁃ A link to Lorerunner’s FFVII playthrough, which helped form some of my thoughts on the original game and also doubled as a source for the footage for the original Final Fantasy VII playthrough: ruclips.net/video/_BxojKqZ-5Q/видео.html&ab_channel=LorerunnerStreamArchives
⁃ Source 1 for the footage for the FFVIIR playthrough, as well as the source for some Crisis Core footage: ruclips.net/user/gLPLayground
⁃ Source 2 for the footage for the FFVIIR playthrough: ruclips.net/video/JCuOXpxJjGo/видео.html&ab_channel=dansg08
⁃ Source 3 for the footage for the FFVIIR playthrough (Mentioned in the video as Gameplay Garage but have since changed their channel name to "Cipher"): ruclips.net/video/iYJwIkLgCBE/видео.html&ab_channel=Cipher
⁃ A link to a podcast entitled "Dropped Frames" that helped me gather my thoughts on the ending of the Remake (the discussion I mentioned about the Lifestream chapters starts at about 22 minutes in): ruclips.net/video/h3Ex8ILaJAA/видео.html&ab_channel=itmeJP
⁃ Lifestream Black and LifeStream White excerpts, translated: thelifestream.net/novels-novellas/on-the-way-to-a-smile-lifestream-black-and-lifestream-white/
⁃ Two Twitter threads translating important bits of the FFVII Remake Ultimania: mobile.twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1255553713260789760 twitter.com/istanleyff7/status/1256005845222961153
⁃ A link to the Final Fantasy wiki, which was used for some fact-checking: finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Wiki
⁃ Additional lore tidbits provided from reading a physical copy of the original Final Fantasy VII Ultimania
⁃ An interview with Sakaguchi about the theme of FFVII: www.ff7citadel.com/press/int_sakaguchi.shtml
- Let's Mosey: A Slow Translation Of Final Fantasy VII: ruclips.net/video/tCeN2KjRHZk/видео.html&ab_channel=Kotaku
⁃ My video on Barret: ruclips.net/video/Hs6kkpAla8k/видео.html&ab_channel=Aleczandxr
Holy sources
How was this comment posted 4 days ago...
Haven’t finished FF7 yet so I’ll just play this in the background and come back later
@@easschung9442 RUclips has a tool for that
I recommend playing dark souls 1 or persona 5 if you haven’t
I haven't played either game but I know the feel of finishing something this huge. Congratulations on getting this one released!!
Who ate you
You can get the original on almost any platform. OG FF7 has been ported almost as often as Skyrim by this point. You can get it even on iOS and Android for a around 20$ I believe.
Original is great.
1:13:00 The "scraped knees" line is a callback to a key moment in Cloud's childhood when he tried to follow Tifa up Mt Nibel but ended up falling and scraping his knees while Tifa fell into a coma. This indicates that it is the real Cloud still inside him that is trying to reach out to him and not other parts of his personality like the Jenova cells
Cloud: "I don't dance..."
Cloud a few chapters later:
Boy knows how to shake his stuff.
I can’t imagine how much work you’ve put into this. It’s personal, funny, nostalgic, & introspective. I don’t know what else to say besides amazing work!
Thanks so much mate!
Hoo boy, see you in 5 years for part 2
Im right here with you guys
Facts lol
I think it'll release in 2022/2023 honestly
Who cares about the Fan Fiction Story of the Remake.
There is only one real FF7 Story.
@@henriklarssen1331 Yep, and it continues into the remake, like it or not :)
I can't believe I thoroughly enjoyed this 3 hour long monstrosity so much - thank you for making such effort! :)
My pleasure! Thanks for watching the entire way through!
@Aleczandxr why majority of ur content not games?no reviews except this.no other reviews on other jrpgs or newer games
@Paul smith No videos on JRPGs and other games aside from this one…? I’m not sure why you say that with such confidence because that isn’t true at all lmao ruclips.net/p/PLf2MkVBhqRMiiaZbq3-4x8oEYlWe6LrCZ
This is one of the few games I really really regret having spoiled for myself, both the original and the remake. At least I got to watch this video on account of that.
With the following parts going off script, at least you'll have the chance to go in blind and enjoy them 1st hand!
@TiggZ_ I only played half of the og ff7 back in the day and half of the remake. I don't know what to do I dont want to spoil it but people say play the og, but I like playing the remake sort of blind. I only have a basic understanding of what's going on, all of the plot twist I have seen from back in the day are hazey and I can't remember😊
FINALLY! I know you worked on this one like crazy, thank you AJ
Monstrous video, it must have taken you ages to script and finish. We appreciate your work ethic!
Bruh, how did you know I was fiending for more FF7R content? Unreal.
After watching the video, I'm amazed to find that you had a nearly identical experience with the original and the remake as me.
Time to watch a 3 hour long video about a game I have never played in my life.
I’m about to watch a 3 hour video on a game I have played on and off for the past 25 years... one I know inside and out, one I have watched hours of videos on and spent countless hours playing and watching extended universe games and content for... more than likely he will have nothing to say in this that I haven’t thought myself or heard from others.... and I am still extremely excited for it!
Great watch! I like to believe the destruction of Fate just gives the developers an ingame excuse to allow themselves more creative liberty in recreating/fleshing things out/slighty altering some parts of the game. It also makes it kind of exciting what to expect and might really emulate the feeling of playing Final Fantasy 7 for the first time again since you don’t 100% know what’s to come. I’m also on team “Tifa is best girl”. I love how gentle and just so full of kindness she is, yet is still willing to fight for what is right.
Same, it always seemed clear to me that there is an obvious distinction between Midgar and the rest of the game, which makes it more difficult for the rest to be adapted faithfully.
I think the developers understood that and created the whispers as a way to justify those changes.
The most obvious example of this concept I think is when you get a 4 (5) party team near the end of the game.
Before that we naturally had a 3 party throughout the game, but as soon as the 4th is added, the game needs to start taking liberties in order to excuse why you're only controlling 4, like splitting up the party, or having Barret get shot.
The ending especially shows the problems you run into with this increased freedom, where they had to make a bunch of cutscenes for Tifa, Aerith, and Barret, depending on who is with you to fight Sephiroth.
If you have so many problems with just 4 characters, what about when you have a full party? Can't make a 100 variations on each cut scene, can't ignore 60% of your characters either, stuff will have to change. And that's just when talking about Party members and cutscenes, it doesn't even address the differences in worldbuilding you'd run into after Midgar.
(Oh, and yes,Tifa is absolutely spectacular in every way)
@@DutchDread oh i never thought of that, I kinda assumed they would have us keep the out of use party members in our back pocket until cutscenes thought. I mean, games have to take some liberties, especially considering they already do this with inventory, otherwise I'd have to have a uhaul van for all my shit, lol.
Obviously, but they still had to think of a way to make sense of everything right.
As a die hard original fan. Im extremely excited for what’s next. They fooled a lot of us in a ballsy way, and bamboozled is into a sequel instead of a remake in a crazy way. Im ready
Well now we are after the Rebirth which proves the entire verses are changed and that Cloud of 7 is really ex solider and not just Zacks memory, also give chance for Athens to b alive
Tell me why i was just thinking about watching some final fantasy 7 content a moment ago...and now i see this in front of my eyes. THANK YOU
Had to watch this video in the course of several days due to limited free time, but having just finished it, this was a really great video!
To be honest, a lot of the implications of VIIR's ending kind of soured the whole experience for me unfortunately, but watching this video helped me remember and prioritize all the things that the Remake did superbly well (many of which were things I wasn't really confident they'd be able to do as well as they did).
I think a lot of my final thoughts on this are really going to depend on exactly what they do with Part 2, and how well it is executed. But I am definitely more optimistic, after having sort of revisited a lot of this game vicariously through this video.
To me, in the night scene with Tifa, judging by his facial expressions, it's like Clouds emotions and his original peraonalty are on the verge of breaking out, but just can't find their way out of his fractured mind. He looks like he wants to cry with Tifa but dosen't know how, and can't quite understand what's happening inside him.
I really like the idea that this games sephiroth and aerith are experiencing the story again with knowledge of the first time it happened to them I think it’s a good way to get a super nuanced look at both characters and how they handle situations they’ve been through already
Me too, I've always thought it's the only thing that makes sense due to their subtle actions and changes
I'm laughing at the fact that you just said "fuck it" when it came to including the background music for this one xD
lmaooooo
In the character resolution scene with Aerith, I don't think she communicating from Shira HQ. I think she's already dead and speaking through the lifestream. Mainly because she doesn't fade away like a dream but fades away as the lifestream with the green glow. Also, there's no other mention of it later when they rescue her from HQ. It just goes as normal and there's no dialogue about this scene between cloud and aerith. I could be wrong and this gets touched on in part two, just my thought.
Really good theory!
Cloud's line read of "I've got skills!" might be my absolute favorite out of most of his lines, OG AND Remake. Lol Dorky Cloud > Moody Cloud.
This lol it always disappoints me when people think of cloud as just some super serious mercenary on a revenge quest. Hes got so much depth to his character
a better use of my time then watching Wonder Woman 1984
I heart you for saying this.
LOL YES
Indeed
"Cloud is essentially a 17-year-old in a 21-year-old's body due to being submerged in Mako unconscious for four years."
I'm a 17-year-old in a 36-year-old's body, and I don't even have the excuse of being experimented on! XD
Submerged into Mountain Dew unconsciousness
lol I hear you brother
Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie are one of the biggest successes of the remake. The time spent with them was enjoyable and made me care more about them. The extra scene with Jessie’s parents deserves praise for pulling so much narrative weight at once.
Roche is a character that, at least imo, shows that Soldiers are psychotic. It kind of gets us, the players, to see how normal people see Soldiers since or frame of reference is limited. I’m hoping they use him to talk about the quality of life for a Soldier ( shortened lifespans and reunion stuff )
On the train graveyard, I totally agree. I think this tone should’ve been saved for the Temple of the Ancients if you take Tifa ( assuming the game lets you pick )
I have a feeling that Roche will have a bigger role to play in the upcoming parts.
Your mention of areas that lacked content in the original really sparked my imagination. You referenced the train graveyard particularly, but other areas like the prison, nibelhiem was only the mansion, gonoga could be awesome, honestly you've raised an excellent point and I hope the development team does take advantage of the areas to the fullest. Just imagining the temple of the ancients and demon wall is exciting.
Hopefully they start strong with Kalm! Not that it has to be a gigantic city here, but just a substantial and rich realization of the peaceful little place.
@@Aleczandxr I can't wait to see Kalm in Rebirth. I'm hoping to see several allusions to Kalm's hidden history that we learned about in Before Crisis.
I still have nightmares of that damn demon wall
Kalm ost is gonna be instant tears
This is actually exactly what I needed right now lol. I just finished a replay of FF7 and I was just about to start watching videos
I am back here after the Final Fantasy VII Rebirth trailer.
This is beyond amazing and makes me want to replay both games again. Your dedication and hard work you sunk into this project was palpable in the resulting video. I never thought I’d end up watching a 3 hour video but here I am. Thanks for putting in the time and sharing it with us. Amazing work man 👍
Thanks a ton!
It's crazy how a video comparing them like this hasn't come out until now, at least not that I'm aware of. Awesome.
Just when I was searching for long comprehensive, meaningful analyzations of my favorite game. Aleczanderdxr came to the rescue. You my good sir have my deepest thanks
You hit so many notes with this video for me. Your insight is right on point and your breakdown is everything I wanted to see in one. You are truly a kindred spirited fan. Awesome work!
Thank you very much!
Wow…this analysis and breakdown is INCREDIBLE! I just love how appreciative that you are, and you’re not someone who instantly defaults into being a hater toward any change. Change, in the case of FF7: Remake, is good!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.
Great video, there's so many ideas and theories I never considered while playing. Always a treat to get such an in depth analysis of something like this
I'm very happy you enjoyed it!
Fantastic video. Thank you so much for putting so much time and love into this.
It was my pleasure!
It must feel amazing to complete a project of this size. Can’t wait to watch this one.
1:53:00 extremely good points re plate drop, very well articulated. Totally agree
Thank you for you effort and appreciation to make this video, despite all the hardships of editing.
I find your Videos amazing since nearly 2 years .. the depth in those are always appreciated
Hell yes!!! Have you watched SleepEZ's FFVIIR videos? Amazing eloquent stuff, just like your content. I would love you two to collaborate.
Thank you for mentioning this channel I subscribed
You nailed it about the train graveyard, its like they made it separately from the rest of the story, I believe the story of eligor and the kid ghosts in conjunction with exploring Aerith and Tifas characters and the dynamic of their friendship was a good thing and could've basically only been done at that part of the game, they really should've incorporated the urgency of the plate drop and discarded the ghosts playing with them, discarded the ghost boss and make it more compact.
genuinely amazing video. perfect narration and the visual attention to detail is impressive, not to mention the sheer length of the video. 10/10
Thank you!
Been saving this video for a gaming session, I'm buckled in for the 3 hours :D
The idea that this is an alternate universe telling of the story is interesting. Honestly, I loathe how they put Sephiroth as the last boss. I get that this is supposed to be different, but they could have just had him appear and make cloud think he was the boss, only to fight the whispers and fate. Having him there right off the bat just nerfs his presence.
I'm on the fence about getting the second part of the remake because of this. I'll have to see some amazing things to get it.
I empathize with your concerns but I have full faith in the dev team, especially because Nomura will be much less involved (at least for Part 2, but even if he was more involved I’d still have faith).
I am grateful for the time you took to give this game the detailed dissection it deserves. It truly has a great story that's told obtusely because it's part 1 of however many. It sets up just enough story for the new player to get invested, and give the avid fan enough to speculate on.
Loved this video, had to watch it twice! I really hope to see part two this year, your content is immaculate
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for checking it out!
Amazing video as always, watched it all in one sitting, can't wait until the second part!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Literally just finished the game and 5 minutes afterwards I came right to this video. FFVll holds such a dear place in my heart from playing it as a kid and this remake pretty much reinforces my feels for it, and in an industry filled with lazy remasters/remakes it’s so fulfilling seeing how much love and care was taken into making FFVll Remake. Anyways great video as always that 3 1/2 hours flew by.
2:30:00 I have a theory about this scene. This is what Sephiroth is planning to do to them, from Meteor to Barret and Tifa's deaths. We actually see one of these fulfilled or, seemingly fulfilled when Barret is stabbed in the presidents office, its the same kind of scene. One to other hand Tifa being stabbed might be what Sephiroth is planning to do to her or a reference to what he did to her back at the reactor 5 years earlier.
Oh yeah, I definitely think his intent is being conveyed very forcefully through that scene.
Love this video! You did a good job at describing the events of the story
Oh baby, this is the big one. I can’t wait to dive into this
GODAMN I’ll make sure to watch this later I’m sure it will be 11/10 peak fiction
Well here's your reminder comment. ;)
Same ^
Finally finished it after a few days! Loved it, congratulations
Thanks a lot!
This was excellent. Possibly perfectly done. Good job. Can't wait to see your future stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just finished this video. Amazing work. Thanks so much. Will definitely share this around w friends
Awesome, thank you!
MY MAN YOU ARE ARE GREAT!!!
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND EFFORTS YOU PUT INTO THIS PROJECT....
Many thanks for watching!
Wow, great work. This is amazing. Well done sir!
Thank you kindly!
I loved this video! It’s well thought out and very eloquently put. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed every minute and look forward to part 2 !
Awesome! Thank you!
This is SUCH a fantastic analysis, and love the way you compare the two and offer your insight on each. One thing that you mention a lot and that I kept thinking all the way through my playtime is that events are just so needlessly drawn out and padded. I get that they needed to make this a full game experience, but I do feel like it hurt the experience more than enhanced it as a whole. With that said, the jessie chapter was fantastic, and easily the best addition for extra content in the game.
Damn you can really get me immersed in something I have little investment in through these long-form videos. I’m very tempted to play the remake when part 2 comes out, I think you were right in saying it could be something really special despite the departure at the end of part 1.
Aerith is also aware that, due to the genetics of his species, Red is effectively the equivalent of a child by their standards.
"This child is not a threat."
You could maybe get away with saying she could sense Red's intentions with her Cetra voodoo, but how the shit would she know Nanaki's age and lifespan by looking at him? Something screwy...
Hey Aleczandxr, this is one titan of a video and I thoroughly enjoyed every second of it. It gave me a new appreciation for the story that I didn't have as someone who didn't play the original. Incredible job, I can't even begin to think of how much planning this video took but I want you to know that I enjoyed every second. Thank you!
Perfect! Glad you enjoyed it so much :)
YES I have been waiting for this for so long!!!
Great points. Especially about Tseng and Reno during the plate segment of the original. Then she’s sad about his death although he recently physically abused her. Totally incongruent representation of Tseng, even if you only saw him in the original.
Also to be fair, I wasted a lot of time farming Ghost hands and a Striking Staff during the train graveyard segment of the original. But I agree, I was thinking wtf, get to the pillar!
This was a brilliant video, you touched on a lot of details and I really appreciate the effort you must have put into this.
Thank you very much!
This video is so long I need to prepare with time and popcorn just to watch this because I really wanted someone to do this comparison.
Finally watched this whole thing and man this is really well done. Enjoyed watching from start to finish.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed and I appreciate you checking the whole thing out.
At first I was a bit hesitant to watch a 3 hour video, but since it's FF7 I thought why not and I'm glad I decided to sit through the whole thing. Partly because I agree with alot of what you say and ideas you put forward and because of how well structured the video was, never feeling like you were wafting on or jumping too much between different ideas.
I only played the original a few years ago and I loved it, I played the remake and it's the first game I've ever replayed back to back. The characters, gameplay and new story ideas just drew me in and make me excited for the future. While I think some people may be upset that the game will be going in a different direction, I don't think it will take away from the magic of the original nor will it tarnish the legacy it has created.
Great vid, looking forward to part 2, both the remake and your own video on FF7
Cheers, I’m happy that you enjoyed!
three hours of aleczandxr? oh hell yes!
This video deserved the like it got from me because you talked about how good Barret's elevator speech was.
I'm so excited for part 2 keep up the work alex
Amazing video man holy nuts what a great analysis on the original and remake honestly mate
Thanks very much!
Nojima has stated in ultimania that cloud is actually mentally 16. Cloud is 2 years younger than zack who was 18 when he was experimented on. I just thought I should point that out.
Amazing video it gave me chills at points, well done chief
Much appreciated!
This was a very fun experience, thanks for putting it together.
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it!
oh man, a 3 hour plus video, doing a comparitive of remake vs original.
Well it's 1:30 am here. Going to save this video to my watch ASAP playlist.
About to enjoy this :)
This was the best breakdown I've heard anywhere!
Keep up the great work
Thank you!
so good, I can't wait for part 2!
Holy moly, the point about jessie being the first person to make cloud smile in the game!
I totally missed it. Hope to see more jessie in FF7P2!
Dude. It took a few days but I watched the entire thing.
I’ve loved every minute of this video. Thank you! I cant wait for your next part!!
Happy you enjoyed it!
Was looking for a long remake positive analysis just like this. Excited to have found your channel!
Awesome, hope you enjoyed!
Holy fuck, i knew you made 1 hour long videos but this is a new record, even for you
Congrats on getting this one out
All I want now is a game of the Zack lives world.
You do realize that would mean we would have to see Zack watch aerith die right?
@@perrydunetz882 it could be an Aerith lives world too
Fuck that zack dying the way he did was why he was compelling.
@@omensoffate If the most compelling aspect of a character was the way he died, that means he wasn't a compelling character in his own right.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter Zack was very compelling. His death had contextual significance for Cloud, but beyond that he was a fun and likeable character in his own right.
Great video man! A lot of work went into this for sure
Thanks!
Ahh your analyses are always so fun to watch! Yeah some of the things you were saying I've heard somewhere but it's still such fun to hear your passion for the story. I have to admit that I have unlimited respect for you for waiting with talking abut this story till the moment when you truly appreciated it. Because this story is so rich and impactful if only one let it be. Hearing you talk abut Tifa is such a joy even through I don't understand your appreciation for her at all (I'd love to see a video abut why she's such a great character!). Honestly I think the creators took amazing decision to make remake rather a sequel than just a remake and I'm very curious what will happen now and too what extend the future will be changed.
I'm very glad you enjoyed! Though I'm a bit confused at the Tifa comment, mainly because I described in this video why I think she's great and what I like about her! Her very caring nature, how admirable it is that she's able to shoulder such a difficult burden and be both very understandable and very nuanced with it as the same time, how she unrelentingly supports Cloud through everything, how her disagreements with Avalanche bring up such inner conflict, the presentation of her hesitancy in voice work, dialogue and body language, not to mention the amazing scene with her and Cloud at night where she releases everything, and even a bit more than that. Of course you may not agree and that's totally cool, but I elaborated upon why I love her quite a bit so hopefully you can get a decent understanding of why I think she's great. Of course as I mentioned, her most substantial writing comes after the Remake material, so that stuff will be covered whenever I'm able to get to Part 2. But this videos sums up why I think she's awesome overall well regardless so there's no need for a separate video on her - I'd just be repeating what I said in here for 15-20 minutes, haha.
Best 3 hours I've ever spent
Great video💗 can’t wait to see your videos of future parts and hearing your thoughts! Gonna go watch your other ff7 analyses
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
yooo bro i remember you from your Kuruko's Basketball vid and i've been on a Final Fantasy binge lately so this is a godsend
I know what I’m listening to at work tomorrow
Interesting analys, thought I am more Cloud and Aerith fan. I was affected more when she give Cloud the flower, same when she asked that Cloud should not fall love in her. Cloud don't have Zack feelings, they are his own. Aerith is the one who has open him all game and is getting throught his armor. To me orginal game was they tragic lovestory.
Totally agree with you
You’re both wrong and inherently stupid.
This is work of art homie.
Much love from Vancouver
Cheers!
This was easily the best story exploration I've seen on Remake yet. Please do another. Do two more. Three.
Yowza, just finished. I agree with a surprising amount of things, especially the things about the Remake's direction and the OG's pacing. The OG is a lot messier than people like to admit a lot of the time, and the Remake is just as messy lol
I think the OG's messy pacing simply wasn't brought up here because it becomes more of an issue later in the game. The Midgar section of the OG was pretty tightly-paced, but things lose steam afterwards a bit and the plot really starts to meander around the huge materia hunt. I guess it just wasn't really relevant to this first part of the analysis in particular.
@@b.h.4249 ??? I think you misread my comment, I don't have any significant problems with the OG's pacing and I was agreeing with the flaws of the OG that were brought up in the video.
@@meleronnef8411 Oh yeah, seems like I did, my bad. Taking all that back. XD
Regardless, have a great day. 👍
51:47 that goes without saying dude
That was a straight up waifu confession haha
took me 3 days to watch it all. and i really enjoyed it. even gave me some things to ponder about like future installments as well as deeper knowledge of the whispers. all in all, a wonderful video.
Gesus! This deserves so many more views...great job man!
Thank you!
Bookmarking for myself: 2:01:05
Interesting, I assumed that Cloud connected with most people. Hard to ignore the lack of subtlety in the script though.
Very well done. It was full of great insight and theories. Keep doing you.
Cheers
The "cloud talking to cloud" scene after falling into the church is actually a monologue from zack, saying how when he fell through the church he only got "scraped knees" and his line "we doing this?" Is also from advent children: complete.
The reason cloud sees himself during this Minogue and not zack is because clouds mako poisoning and PTSD has made him adapt zacks life as his own, and his mind ignores all any any mention or vision of zack, as seen when aerith says his name during the park scene.
So cloud actually has 3 personas; OG cloud, "zack cloud" and the sephiroth via the jenova cells.
Yes, it's a bit frustrating listening to this video bc this guy clearly doesn't know a ton beyond the surface level of the game.